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MASSIVE FAT F., by pezlow on Jan 3, 2009 9:11:36 GMT 1, What's wrong with them Jboy? Price is maybe a bit high for the Hewlett, but you don't see them up for sale very often. The Faile isn't my favourite either but seems kosher, although I'm not sure whether these were signed or not
What's wrong with them Jboy? Price is maybe a bit high for the Hewlett, but you don't see them up for sale very often. The Faile isn't my favourite either but seems kosher, although I'm not sure whether these were signed or not
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MASSIVE FAT F., by craigf on Jan 3, 2009 10:28:58 GMT 1, Prices seem a little aspirational and I don't know enough about Faile to comment on that piece, but I don't see the problem (other than they are very unlikely to sell for these prices)
Prices seem a little aspirational and I don't know enough about Faile to comment on that piece, but I don't see the problem (other than they are very unlikely to sell for these prices)
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MASSIVE FAT F., by AxB on Jan 3, 2009 11:53:22 GMT 1, also the sellers name is mathmagazine
could be coincidence but as i recall math magazine ran a faile issue back in the days that it existed
came with a fucking dire and rarely mentioned faile poster print too
i have never seen one of these staple prints signed
which would make it pretty rare
so really perhaps if you like tie dye effects and faile then this is a real bargain ?
unless you know something we dont jboy ?
also the sellers name is mathmagazine
could be coincidence but as i recall math magazine ran a faile issue back in the days that it existed
came with a fucking dire and rarely mentioned faile poster print too
i have never seen one of these staple prints signed
which would make it pretty rare
so really perhaps if you like tie dye effects and faile then this is a real bargain ?
unless you know something we dont jboy ?
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MASSIVE FAT F., by motor on Jan 3, 2009 12:10:40 GMT 1, I won't comment about the seller.
However that Faile signature looks very, very dubious to me.
I have never seen anything like this one and I have seen few.
Print itself is legit but far from Faile's best (pretty poor IMO but could be an interesting item for a mad collector).
There are 5 different prints from this series - each edition of 25. As far as I know only few were signed - the ones which were given as a gifts.
Zippy will have more info on this 
I won't comment about the seller. However that Faile signature looks very, very dubious to me. I have never seen anything like this one and I have seen few. Print itself is legit but far from Faile's best (pretty poor IMO but could be an interesting item for a mad collector). There are 5 different prints from this series - each edition of 25. As far as I know only few were signed - the ones which were given as a gifts. Zippy will have more info on this |
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MASSIVE FAT F., by bullet on Jan 3, 2009 12:40:59 GMT 1, there is no way thats a faile signature. they dont even sign it 04.
if they dated it, as you know, it would be faile '86
and they dont sign in pen either.
as for that hewlett, all it is by the looks of it is a crappy litho
there is no way thats a faile signature. they dont even sign it 04.
if they dated it, as you know, it would be faile '86
and they dont sign in pen either.
as for that hewlett, all it is by the looks of it is a crappy litho
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MASSIVE FAT F., by Zippy on Jan 3, 2009 12:50:47 GMT 1, hi jboy,
the Hewlett looks fine. As Pez said its a little pricey for an unsigned but Hewlett is a great artist and these rarely come up.
On the faile piece, I was not aware of these being signed but we are going back to early days and these were given out as gifts or sent to shops as promotional items. Mine was signed on the verso by Aiko and has been confirmed authentic.
There is a 'possibility' that one of them did sign this as a gift etc.. but why not ask the seller?
From a price POV, I dont think ยฃ400 is bad for a very early edition of 25 of which I nor Faile have any idea of how many are still in circulation as many would have been lost or destroyed.
hi jboy,
the Hewlett looks fine. As Pez said its a little pricey for an unsigned but Hewlett is a great artist and these rarely come up.
On the faile piece, I was not aware of these being signed but we are going back to early days and these were given out as gifts or sent to shops as promotional items. Mine was signed on the verso by Aiko and has been confirmed authentic.
There is a 'possibility' that one of them did sign this as a gift etc.. but why not ask the seller?
From a price POV, I dont think ยฃ400 is bad for a very early edition of 25 of which I nor Faile have any idea of how many are still in circulation as many would have been lost or destroyed.
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MASSIVE FAT F., by bullet on Jan 3, 2009 12:56:41 GMT 1, maybe im just being cynical, but every faile ive seen is signed the same and its not like that.
regarding the hewlett, its fine but ยฃ400?
for god sake, an eelus canvas sold for ยฃ480 on ebay this morning
maybe im just being cynical, but every faile ive seen is signed the same and its not like that.
regarding the hewlett, its fine but ยฃ400?
for god sake, an eelus canvas sold for ยฃ480 on ebay this morning
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MASSIVE FAT F., by Zippy on Jan 3, 2009 13:08:31 GMT 1, jby I am going to PM you an early faile signature on one of my pieces.
jby I am going to PM you an early faile signature on one of my pieces.
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MASSIVE FAT F., by bullet on Jan 3, 2009 13:10:30 GMT 1, cheers mate
cheers mate
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MASSIVE FAT F., by motor on Jan 3, 2009 13:25:06 GMT 1, Zippy, if you mean the signature that Aiko made - although in capitals- it is nothing like this one.
I know this is supposed to be early signature (04) however there are older prints (03) and nothing and I mean nothing like this one.
As for me, without the Faile confirmation, I wouldn't consider it being it 'real' signature.
Why the hell am I so involved in this?!
Zippy, if you mean the signature that Aiko made - although in capitals- it is nothing like this one.
I know this is supposed to be early signature (04) however there are older prints (03) and nothing and I mean nothing like this one.
As for me, without the Faile confirmation, I wouldn't consider it being it 'real' signature.
Why the hell am I so involved in this?!
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MASSIVE FAT F., by bullet on Jan 3, 2009 13:44:15 GMT 1, you love it!
you love it!
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MASSIVE FAT F., by craigf on Jan 3, 2009 16:13:00 GMT 1, Why the hell am I so involved in this?!
Maybe it's just a quiet Saturday and your not up 2 much? ;D
Why the hell am I so involved in this?! Maybe it's just a quiet Saturday and your not up 2 much? ;D |
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MASSIVE FAT F., by bullet on Jan 3, 2009 18:59:37 GMT 1, ยฃ30.. who cares eh.
nice to have an E canvas
ยฃ30.. who cares eh.
nice to have an E canvas
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MASSIVE FAT F., by bradpitt on Jan 3, 2009 19:16:03 GMT 1, Looks fine to me, says they are a silkscreen here
staplestore.stores.yahoo.net/faile.html
I had a POW print signed 'Faile 2003' so they are not all signed 1986
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MASSIVE FAT F., by craigf on Jan 3, 2009 19:28:59 GMT 1, Good price on the Eelus canvases guys ;D
Good price on the Eelus canvases guys ;D
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MASSIVE FAT F., by pezlow on Jan 4, 2009 8:06:29 GMT 1, there is no way thats a faile signature. they dont even sign it 04. if they dated it, as you know, it would be faile '86 and they dont sign in pen either.
Early faile signatures are very different to the recent faile signatures. And faile certainly used to sign with the date. I've seen signatures saying "faile 03" and "faile 04". However they are in lower case, I haven't seen any in uppercase. These were signed in black pen as well.
Incidentally I've never seen a faile signature that reads "faile 86" - normally they sign 1986 on the other side of a piece, Would like to see examples of signatures that read "faile 86"
I would certainly agree with others that you would need to check out provenance carefully before buying this piece but I wouldn't be so quick to condemn the signature as a fake.
there is no way thats a faile signature. they dont even sign it 04. if they dated it, as you know, it would be faile '86 and they dont sign in pen either. Early faile signatures are very different to the recent faile signatures. And faile certainly used to sign with the date. I've seen signatures saying "faile 03" and "faile 04". However they are in lower case, I haven't seen any in uppercase. These were signed in black pen as well. Incidentally I've never seen a faile signature that reads "faile 86" - normally they sign 1986 on the other side of a piece, Would like to see examples of signatures that read "faile 86" I would certainly agree with others that you would need to check out provenance carefully before buying this piece but I wouldn't be so quick to condemn the signature as a fake. |
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