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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by mustard on May 15, 2009 15:23:17 GMT 1, Looking for Offers
Beautiful thick hand painted layers
Looking for Offers Beautiful thick hand painted layers
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by babyford on May 15, 2009 15:33:17 GMT 1, Very Nice Piece - Good luck with sale
Very Nice Piece - Good luck with sale
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by Guest on May 15, 2009 18:02:05 GMT 1, what's a ball park figure your looking for?
what's a ball park figure your looking for?
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by neale on May 15, 2009 18:36:16 GMT 1, that is lovely, size and ballpark would be good
that is lovely, size and ballpark would be good
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by maadbeats on May 15, 2009 18:44:26 GMT 1, $4k would be a great price for this piece
$4k would be a great price for this piece
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by tmccarthy41 on May 15, 2009 19:58:46 GMT 1, ^ what makes you so sure?
^ what makes you so sure?
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by afroken on May 15, 2009 20:04:35 GMT 1, I very much doubt it would go for $4k. I think right now $2k is more realistic. If you don't need to sell it keep it. Its stunning.
I very much doubt it would go for $4k. I think right now $2k is more realistic. If you don't need to sell it keep it. Its stunning.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by mustard on May 15, 2009 20:09:38 GMT 1, it's 25 X 35 inches and an edition of 11 I couldn't go down to 4k usd but I can get kind of close, these were going for almost 10k last year!
it's 25 X 35 inches and an edition of 11 I couldn't go down to 4k usd but I can get kind of close, these were going for almost 10k last year!
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by Heavyconsumer on May 15, 2009 20:11:58 GMT 1, WOW USD$2k? I'm not expert on Faile prices, but that seems low to me for one of these. Even as someone who isn't the biggest Faile fan and only got into some of their work recently, I'd always have appreciated a piece like this. I thought these were worth big bucks... No?
WOW USD$2k? I'm not expert on Faile prices, but that seems low to me for one of these. Even as someone who isn't the biggest Faile fan and only got into some of their work recently, I'd always have appreciated a piece like this. I thought these were worth big bucks... No?
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by mustard on May 15, 2009 20:40:30 GMT 1, yeah 2k usd is ridiculously low, The Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl is one of the top Failes IMO, pure class Realistic offers Please
yeah 2k usd is ridiculously low, The Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl is one of the top Failes IMO, pure class Realistic offers Please
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by afroken on May 15, 2009 20:52:39 GMT 1, Only basing it on my experience of selling a SOLIB a couple of months ago which is also considered one of the top Failes and was also going for $10k last year.
Only basing it on my experience of selling a SOLIB a couple of months ago which is also considered one of the top Failes and was also going for $10k last year.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by Deleted on May 15, 2009 22:17:00 GMT 1, not being horrible or anything but Faile prices have bombed big time - even a lovely piece like this isn't going to fetch much more if at all than about $2.5k
not being horrible or anything but Faile prices have bombed big time - even a lovely piece like this isn't going to fetch much more if at all than about $2.5k
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by mustard on May 15, 2009 22:20:13 GMT 1, can't say I agree because I've already had much better offers than that
can't say I agree because I've already had much better offers than that
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by oneeye on May 16, 2009 0:33:25 GMT 1, I find it amusing how people offer up their opinion on how much certain pieces are worth. The pink and cream is one of their strongest images to date. $2K is a joke. We all know it's worth significantly more than that. Good luck to you Mustard. It's a classic.
I find it amusing how people offer up their opinion on how much certain pieces are worth. The pink and cream is one of their strongest images to date. $2K is a joke. We all know it's worth significantly more than that. Good luck to you Mustard. It's a classic.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by Coach on May 16, 2009 0:51:07 GMT 1, I too think the price suggested above is (way) too low. Moreover, mustard - gorgeous piece - one of the nicest i've seen in a while. Good luck with the sale. C
I too think the price suggested above is (way) too low. Moreover, mustard - gorgeous piece - one of the nicest i've seen in a while. Good luck with the sale. C
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by Philippe on May 16, 2009 2:53:42 GMT 1, Afroken you sold your SOLIB for $2k!?
Afroken you sold your SOLIB for $2k!?
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by mustard on May 16, 2009 3:53:48 GMT 1, thanks oneeye and coach it is gorgeous and a classic! if I don't get a decent price for it I'l frame it and be very happy with it, I just thought I had too many Failes(Garrett would never feel this way) and wanted to mix it up a little and it's the only one I haven't framed yet but the more I look at it the more I want to keep it. Do you still have yours Dank? and yes I also think $2k for a SOLIB is too low, I've seen many inferior prints go for more, afroken must have had to sell it quick. I have to say I know a lot of people have come off Faile right now and most artists will go up and down but the Faile NYC hand finished low edition hand painted prints are SOOOO Quality and Class they are some of the best prints around, they lie somewhere between an original and a print. So if you don't follow the trends there are some great ones to be had and no I'm not just saying that because I have one for sale..
thanks oneeye and coach it is gorgeous and a classic! if I don't get a decent price for it I'l frame it and be very happy with it, I just thought I had too many Failes(Garrett would never feel this way) and wanted to mix it up a little and it's the only one I haven't framed yet but the more I look at it the more I want to keep it. Do you still have yours Dank? and yes I also think $2k for a SOLIB is too low, I've seen many inferior prints go for more, afroken must have had to sell it quick. I have to say I know a lot of people have come off Faile right now and most artists will go up and down but the Faile NYC hand finished low edition hand painted prints are SOOOO Quality and Class they are some of the best prints around, they lie somewhere between an original and a print. So if you don't follow the trends there are some great ones to be had and no I'm not just saying that because I have one for sale..
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by afroken on May 16, 2009 4:16:30 GMT 1, No, I swapped it for something amazing. What that was/is worth doesn't really matter as no money exchanged hands and I feel I got a good deal. But it was for sale on here and on eBay for quite a while with no takers, as yours has been Mustard. How many times have you listed and re-listed it?
There's a pattern of denial here, as there was with Micallef and with Neate prices. Failes are going for a fraction of what they were and no attempt to keep prices artificially high is going to make any difference; it's just a fact of life. More realistic prices one might conclude. It doesn't diminish the quality of this print though. It's stunning.
Did no-one notice that Rampage go for £900 a couple of months ago?
No, I swapped it for something amazing. What that was/is worth doesn't really matter as no money exchanged hands and I feel I got a good deal. But it was for sale on here and on eBay for quite a while with no takers, as yours has been Mustard. How many times have you listed and re-listed it?
There's a pattern of denial here, as there was with Micallef and with Neate prices. Failes are going for a fraction of what they were and no attempt to keep prices artificially high is going to make any difference; it's just a fact of life. More realistic prices one might conclude. It doesn't diminish the quality of this print though. It's stunning.
Did no-one notice that Rampage go for £900 a couple of months ago?
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by snausages on May 16, 2009 5:01:13 GMT 1, NDid no-one notice that Rampage go for £900 a couple of months ago? Rampage sucks though, who cares. But seriously, before people put too much weight on the price of a print like Rampage etc.
I think it's better to consider that maybe people have not come off Faile and think that their prices are in the gutter. But consider that prints like these should have probably never commanded a price tag of 10k like they were last year when prices were running wild. That sh*t was a total fluke.
You brought up micallef, but a micallef painting sold for about 30k+ at christies last month. Respectable. A minor faile piece on wood went for 10k at christies a couple months ago. Pretty strong price for the piece. The money is in originals, like its always been. Faile prints are nice but this stuff is small time in the grand scheme.
NDid no-one notice that Rampage go for £900 a couple of months ago? Rampage sucks though, who cares. But seriously, before people put too much weight on the price of a print like Rampage etc. I think it's better to consider that maybe people have not come off Faile and think that their prices are in the gutter. But consider that prints like these should have probably never commanded a price tag of 10k like they were last year when prices were running wild. That sh*t was a total fluke. You brought up micallef, but a micallef painting sold for about 30k+ at christies last month. Respectable. A minor faile piece on wood went for 10k at christies a couple months ago. Pretty strong price for the piece. The money is in originals, like its always been. Faile prints are nice but this stuff is small time in the grand scheme.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by mustard on May 16, 2009 5:32:53 GMT 1, Yeah, I had it on ebay but thing is I actually got a few offers kind of close to my asking price so I don't think I'm in denial but I couldn't pull the trigger because I kept thinking I should just keep it at that price. Prints that were 10k last year have definitely come down but not all the way down to 2k', you won't find a Micallef 'Girl In A Red Dress' for 2k nor a Neate self portrait for 2k and not a Pink and Cream 'Butterfly Girl' for 2k either. Glad you got something amazing for the SOLIB it's a killer print and good to hear that you didn't let it go for 2k
Yeah, I had it on ebay but thing is I actually got a few offers kind of close to my asking price so I don't think I'm in denial but I couldn't pull the trigger because I kept thinking I should just keep it at that price. Prints that were 10k last year have definitely come down but not all the way down to 2k', you won't find a Micallef 'Girl In A Red Dress' for 2k nor a Neate self portrait for 2k and not a Pink and Cream 'Butterfly Girl' for 2k either. Glad you got something amazing for the SOLIB it's a killer print and good to hear that you didn't let it go for 2k
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by maadbeats on May 16, 2009 16:11:35 GMT 1, I think my estimate is dead on. I believe they should get $5k, but $4k is the fairest in this climate. $2k, you can suck a d ick.
Then again its only worth what someone is willing to pay. Best of luck
I think my estimate is dead on. I believe they should get $5k, but $4k is the fairest in this climate. $2k, you can suck a d ick.
Then again its only worth what someone is willing to pay. Best of luck
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by motor on May 16, 2009 16:50:58 GMT 1, Being a Faile fan myself I find this post quite interesting. Snausages good points here and agree with you (even the bit about Rampage. After the release of Fight Vanity it lost it's appeal, rarity and value)
I think it's better to consider that maybe people have not come off Faile and think that their prices are in the gutter. But consider that prints like these should have probably never commanded a price tag of 10k like they were last year when prices were running wild. You brought up micallef, but a micallef painting sold for about 30k+ at christies last month. Respectable. A minor faile piece on wood went for 10k at christies a couple months ago. Pretty strong price for the piece. The money is in originals, like its always been. Faile prints are nice but this stuff is small time in the grand scheme.
Prices for the prints were way too high (although I should mention that the last year the Dollar against Pound was almost 1:2). Originals and quality rare pieces are the way to go.
Mustard your print is one of their best, however it is a print and the image (although most desirable) it has lots of variations. My estimate would be £2-£2.5K ($3-3.8K) in recent climate. I do hope though that you get as much as possible for it. At the moment people with the money are looking for unique pieces or originals and looking for good bargains. Plus the base of Faile fans (or the street art in general) is somewhat stagnating. Things might change after the summer though
Maadbeats, agree with you that its only worth what someone is willing to pay but I would like to add - that on the other hand its only worth what someone is willing to let it go for.
Being a Faile fan myself I find this post quite interesting. Snausages good points here and agree with you (even the bit about Rampage. After the release of Fight Vanity it lost it's appeal, rarity and value) I think it's better to consider that maybe people have not come off Faile and think that their prices are in the gutter. But consider that prints like these should have probably never commanded a price tag of 10k like they were last year when prices were running wild. You brought up micallef, but a micallef painting sold for about 30k+ at christies last month. Respectable. A minor faile piece on wood went for 10k at christies a couple months ago. Pretty strong price for the piece. The money is in originals, like its always been. Faile prints are nice but this stuff is small time in the grand scheme. Prices for the prints were way too high (although I should mention that the last year the Dollar against Pound was almost 1:2). Originals and quality rare pieces are the way to go. Mustard your print is one of their best, however it is a print and the image (although most desirable) it has lots of variations. My estimate would be £2-£2.5K ($3-3.8K) in recent climate. I do hope though that you get as much as possible for it. At the moment people with the money are looking for unique pieces or originals and looking for good bargains. Plus the base of Faile fans (or the street art in general) is somewhat stagnating. Things might change after the summer though Maadbeats, agree with you that its only worth what someone is willing to pay but I would like to add - that on the other hand its only worth what someone is willing to let it go for.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by bobbymeachamjr on May 16, 2009 21:32:12 GMT 1, $3500-$4500. Might take some time but hey, the days of selling art 20 mins after making it avail are long gone. Person(s) saying $2k have absolutely no clue. To even bring up rampage as a reference shows that he/she has no clue.
$3500-$4500. Might take some time but hey, the days of selling art 20 mins after making it avail are long gone. Person(s) saying $2k have absolutely no clue. To even bring up rampage as a reference shows that he/she has no clue.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by jones27 on May 16, 2009 22:00:57 GMT 1, I think the execution is good but the image tired (lots of variations). There are various things going against Faile at the moment. Print releases have never matched the amazing 07 series and the hike in prices at source. Plus secondary sellers assuming a bit of handfinishing should justify a healthy profit (how much was this at cost)...I love Failes work but wish sellers would stop confusing their popularity with Banksy and price accordingly. I wonder if Belgravia gallery have sold anything from their current Faile print exhibition?
I think the execution is good but the image tired (lots of variations). There are various things going against Faile at the moment. Print releases have never matched the amazing 07 series and the hike in prices at source. Plus secondary sellers assuming a bit of handfinishing should justify a healthy profit (how much was this at cost)...I love Failes work but wish sellers would stop confusing their popularity with Banksy and price accordingly. I wonder if Belgravia gallery have sold anything from their current Faile print exhibition?
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by Philippe on May 17, 2009 6:38:31 GMT 1, ok so 4 editions and a maybe 5 originals on paper is tired? One edition being on large Faile stock paper (38 x 50) from an edition of 15 done in 03' Two editions being heavily worked and desired consisting of 23 prints together. Now you also have the monochrome red edition, which not all have been released, regardless due to the lack of applied paints I don't believe these are in the same league. In total making it 38 rather desirable prints of one image. In relation to other artists print's this is still a low amount...
Let's take a look at Sinful Pleasures, 5 editions and definitely more than 5 OG's on paper not to mention the cropped variation's. Get acquainted w/ a faile girl 5 editions, Bunny girl 7 editions, and the list can go on if you wish. The point being that if you do your homework on Faile's work you'll realize that they enjoy recycling their images. Now in relation to other desirable Faile images from prior to 07' the Butterfly Girl is not that tired of an image just a popular one. Fact of the matter is that to acquire a well executed piece of this image is not that feasible. If you saw all the work from Faile's last show you'll notice that the BFG image is not used anywhere, coincidence I think not.
In fact the rarest NYC edition Faile including mono's is Smoking Silence, 2 editions of 8. In reality though 1 edition is far superior to other so there's really only 8...and mustard i'll have her for a long time.
ok so 4 editions and a maybe 5 originals on paper is tired? One edition being on large Faile stock paper (38 x 50) from an edition of 15 done in 03' Two editions being heavily worked and desired consisting of 23 prints together. Now you also have the monochrome red edition, which not all have been released, regardless due to the lack of applied paints I don't believe these are in the same league. In total making it 38 rather desirable prints of one image. In relation to other artists print's this is still a low amount... Let's take a look at Sinful Pleasures, 5 editions and definitely more than 5 OG's on paper not to mention the cropped variation's. Get acquainted w/ a faile girl 5 editions, Bunny girl 7 editions, and the list can go on if you wish. The point being that if you do your homework on Faile's work you'll realize that they enjoy recycling their images. Now in relation to other desirable Faile images from prior to 07' the Butterfly Girl is not that tired of an image just a popular one. Fact of the matter is that to acquire a well executed piece of this image is not that feasible. If you saw all the work from Faile's last show you'll notice that the BFG image is not used anywhere, coincidence I think not. In fact the rarest NYC edition Faile including mono's is Smoking Silence, 2 editions of 8. In reality though 1 edition is far superior to other so there's really only 8...and mustard i'll have her for a long time.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by goatislander on May 17, 2009 6:54:51 GMT 1, ok so 4 editions and a maybe 5 originals on paper is tired? One edition being on large Faile stock paper (38 x 50) from an edition of 15 done in 03' Two editions being heavily worked and desired consisting of 23 prints together. Now you also have the monochrome red edition, which not all have been released, regardless due to the lack of applied paints I don't believe these are in the same league. In total making it 38 rather desirable prints of one image. In relation to other artists print's this is still a low amount... Let's take a look at Sinful Pleasures, 5 editions and definitely more than 5 OG's on paper not to mention the cropped variation's. Get acquainted w/ a faile girl 5 editions, Bunny girl 7 editions, and the list can go on if you wish. The point being that if you do your homework on Faile's work you'll realize that they enjoy recycling their images. Now in relation to other desirable Faile images from prior to 07' the Butterfly Girl is not that tired of an image just a popular one. Fact of the matter is that to acquire a well executed piece of this image is not that feasible. If you saw all the work from Faile's last show you'll notice that the BFG image is not used anywhere, coincidence I think not. In fact the rarest NYC edition Faile including mono's is Smoking Silence, 2 editions of 8. In reality though 1 edition is far superior to other so there's really only 8...and mustard i'll have her for a long time.
someone got told.
ok so 4 editions and a maybe 5 originals on paper is tired? One edition being on large Faile stock paper (38 x 50) from an edition of 15 done in 03' Two editions being heavily worked and desired consisting of 23 prints together. Now you also have the monochrome red edition, which not all have been released, regardless due to the lack of applied paints I don't believe these are in the same league. In total making it 38 rather desirable prints of one image. In relation to other artists print's this is still a low amount... Let's take a look at Sinful Pleasures, 5 editions and definitely more than 5 OG's on paper not to mention the cropped variation's. Get acquainted w/ a faile girl 5 editions, Bunny girl 7 editions, and the list can go on if you wish. The point being that if you do your homework on Faile's work you'll realize that they enjoy recycling their images. Now in relation to other desirable Faile images from prior to 07' the Butterfly Girl is not that tired of an image just a popular one. Fact of the matter is that to acquire a well executed piece of this image is not that feasible. If you saw all the work from Faile's last show you'll notice that the BFG image is not used anywhere, coincidence I think not. In fact the rarest NYC edition Faile including mono's is Smoking Silence, 2 editions of 8. In reality though 1 edition is far superior to other so there's really only 8...and mustard i'll have her for a long time. someone got told.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by jp on May 17, 2009 9:30:33 GMT 1, It will be interesting to see where prices are for Faile in a year or so. I would not sell a Faile print today unless I really needed the money, but I think things will get even worse in the near term.
For those of you slamming Rampage, remember that the print sold out in minutes and was part of the famous summer 2007 release. Just because a larger, less popular edition was released does not make the smaller edition a piece of crap. Less desirable maybe, less valuable, yes, but it is still a great print to me, much in the same way SOLIB is better than Key Foods and the brown version.
It will be interesting to see where prices are for Faile in a year or so. I would not sell a Faile print today unless I really needed the money, but I think things will get even worse in the near term.
For those of you slamming Rampage, remember that the print sold out in minutes and was part of the famous summer 2007 release. Just because a larger, less popular edition was released does not make the smaller edition a piece of crap. Less desirable maybe, less valuable, yes, but it is still a great print to me, much in the same way SOLIB is better than Key Foods and the brown version.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by jones27 on May 17, 2009 10:47:20 GMT 1, Dank-didnt pow release 750 of the butterfly image on the captivating release...Yes its not the same league as nyc editions but shes still there sobbing her heart out.....I would keep the pink butterfly and let its desirability rise again...For me its a future classic.
Dank-didnt pow release 750 of the butterfly image on the captivating release...Yes its not the same league as nyc editions but shes still there sobbing her heart out.....I would keep the pink butterfly and let its desirability rise again...For me its a future classic.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by afroken on May 17, 2009 11:01:40 GMT 1, Some really good points have been made, and maybe the value of SOLIB suffered because people could suddenly get a brown one for fraction of the price, despite the obvious difference in quality.
I didn't compare Rampage to BFG in terms of image. I was referring to price trends. These were changing hands at nearly £4k at the top of the market. A SOLIB sold at £9,500. This suggests that the best and most desirable prints that had the most inflated prices have seen a drop of around 70%. I think I do have a clue.
Mustard, one thing I've realised with eBay is that if you keep relisting a piece and lowering the price it seems to put people off and have a detrimental effect on value. You started at $8,250. The second time you listed it at $8,000 you got a very good offer that you didn't accept. And since then you've listed it at ever decreasing prices until $5,000 and it's languished there without any offers at all. Unfortunately, if it hasn't sold on eBay after being listed 5 times, it probably won't sell for anywhere near the price you want for it. Your only hope is finding someone who is desperate for this print and will go the distance to acquire one, but by relisting and reducing you may have put that person off as they've perhaps woken up to the fact that if they hold tight they may well get one for a fraction of what they were willing to pay for it.
JP is right. Hang on to it. I don't think things will get any worse so hold out in the hope that they will get better.
Some really good points have been made, and maybe the value of SOLIB suffered because people could suddenly get a brown one for fraction of the price, despite the obvious difference in quality.
I didn't compare Rampage to BFG in terms of image. I was referring to price trends. These were changing hands at nearly £4k at the top of the market. A SOLIB sold at £9,500. This suggests that the best and most desirable prints that had the most inflated prices have seen a drop of around 70%. I think I do have a clue.
Mustard, one thing I've realised with eBay is that if you keep relisting a piece and lowering the price it seems to put people off and have a detrimental effect on value. You started at $8,250. The second time you listed it at $8,000 you got a very good offer that you didn't accept. And since then you've listed it at ever decreasing prices until $5,000 and it's languished there without any offers at all. Unfortunately, if it hasn't sold on eBay after being listed 5 times, it probably won't sell for anywhere near the price you want for it. Your only hope is finding someone who is desperate for this print and will go the distance to acquire one, but by relisting and reducing you may have put that person off as they've perhaps woken up to the fact that if they hold tight they may well get one for a fraction of what they were willing to pay for it.
JP is right. Hang on to it. I don't think things will get any worse so hold out in the hope that they will get better.
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Faile Pink and Cream Butterfly Girl FS, by T-Bro on May 17, 2009 11:03:36 GMT 1, are you looking for swaps or cold hard cash?
are you looking for swaps or cold hard cash?
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