ยฉhief'
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by ยฉhief' on Sept 6, 2009 7:39:09 GMT 1, Yep it was signed - pencil signature. Water doesn't affect it....
@ G-Man - I'll dig out the number today and PM you
Yep it was signed - pencil signature. Water doesn't affect it....
@ G-Man - I'll dig out the number today and PM you
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G-Man
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by G-Man on Sept 6, 2009 9:41:00 GMT 1, Ta chief
Ta chief
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viperuk
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by viperuk on Sept 7, 2009 14:52:22 GMT 1, I've used graham before, the results are amazing... thoroughly recommended...
I've used graham before, the results are amazing... thoroughly recommended...
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digitalkid
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by digitalkid on Sept 7, 2009 15:04:21 GMT 1, One of my Bast prints is rippled because of the hand finishing with paint and the type of paper used.
One of my Bast prints is rippled because of the hand finishing with paint and the type of paper used.
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stenev
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by stenev on Dec 17, 2009 10:47:36 GMT 1, Ok, I've read a lot of the posts in this section and hopefully this is the most recent and appropriate for this question - if not sorry for bumping an old thread.
I'm looking to do things properly from now on and the first step is obviously to get my prints out of the tubes!
I'm looking at which portfolio and sleeves to buy but in the meantime thought I best remove the prints I have here from the tubes. Some have been curled up for years and Iโd forgotten Iโd even bought some of them! - A perfect reason for getting them into a viewable portfolio.
So I thought Iโd post here to check Iโm not doing anything wrong as I have a few and they seem to mount up. Iโve got more stored away and will get onto them once Iโve tested the waters s to speak, with these.
I've tried not to have any resting on each other but Iโm going to have to clear a little more space so I can space them out better and they can stay in one place throughout the flattening process.
None of them are super valuable but as I said I want to do this properly so any tips in addition to the wealth of information already here, would be appreciated.
Ok, I've read a lot of the posts in this section and hopefully this is the most recent and appropriate for this question - if not sorry for bumping an old thread. I'm looking to do things properly from now on and the first step is obviously to get my prints out of the tubes! I'm looking at which portfolio and sleeves to buy but in the meantime thought I best remove the prints I have here from the tubes. Some have been curled up for years and Iโd forgotten Iโd even bought some of them! - A perfect reason for getting them into a viewable portfolio. So I thought Iโd post here to check Iโm not doing anything wrong as I have a few and they seem to mount up. Iโve got more stored away and will get onto them once Iโve tested the waters s to speak, with these. I've tried not to have any resting on each other but Iโm going to have to clear a little more space so I can space them out better and they can stay in one place throughout the flattening process. None of them are super valuable but as I said I want to do this properly so any tips in addition to the wealth of information already here, would be appreciated. |
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by schnulli on Jun 19, 2010 15:03:11 GMT 1, I've got a couple of prints that were damaged when rolled up, and as a result have creases in them. Any ideas if framers and the like could do any restoration on them. They're both by Shag from 2000, and not sure if their value is worth whatever any restoration work might be. Appreciate any advice.
I've got a couple of prints that were damaged when rolled up, and as a result have creases in them. Any ideas if framers and the like could do any restoration on them. They're both by Shag from 2000, and not sure if their value is worth whatever any restoration work might be. Appreciate any advice.
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schnulli
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by schnulli on Jun 20, 2010 8:00:18 GMT 1, No ideas?
No ideas?
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by spaceshrew on Jun 20, 2010 10:35:13 GMT 1, If the paper is actually cracked, they can't do a huge amount.
if the paper fibers aren't broken, they can relax the paper,
should be much better, doubt it'll be 100% but worth a
shot, I'd say.
I had a similar situation a few years ago with a Faile,
it looks near on perfect framed now.
If the paper is actually cracked, they can't do a huge amount.
if the paper fibers aren't broken, they can relax the paper,
should be much better, doubt it'll be 100% but worth a
shot, I'd say.
I had a similar situation a few years ago with a Faile,
it looks near on perfect framed now.
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by jB on Jul 30, 2010 23:26:22 GMT 1, I managed to find an old print that I forgot I even had last night in a closet. Problem is, it has been in the same tube for close to five years now and is pretty much formed to the shape of the tube - any suggestion as to how to relax the paper and flatten it out? (it's an obey print and not the nice soft cotton archival paper, like a banksy trolleys)
Any help out there would be appreciated?
ta, jB
I managed to find an old print that I forgot I even had last night in a closet. Problem is, it has been in the same tube for close to five years now and is pretty much formed to the shape of the tube - any suggestion as to how to relax the paper and flatten it out? (it's an obey print and not the nice soft cotton archival paper, like a banksy trolleys)
Any help out there would be appreciated?
ta, jB
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Karl Read
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by Karl Read on Jul 30, 2010 23:36:15 GMT 1, Out of interest, which obey print?
Out of interest, which obey print?
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by I like pictures on Jul 30, 2010 23:47:15 GMT 1, Unroll it bit by bit. Set aside an area tom do this as it will take some time. Unroll it and support the partly unrolled ends best you can. Then after a long time increase the amount its unrolled for and so on. Otherwise just go for it unroll it pin it down under glass or something for a period and see wht happens.
Unroll it bit by bit. Set aside an area tom do this as it will take some time. Unroll it and support the partly unrolled ends best you can. Then after a long time increase the amount its unrolled for and so on. Otherwise just go for it unroll it pin it down under glass or something for a period and see wht happens.
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by elwheel on Jul 31, 2010 0:08:00 GMT 1, I would go for plmjs latter suggestion but use 1 sheet of mdf to lay the print out on i.e AO size and two similar sheets of MDF each half the size of the base board i.e. 2 x A1 size. Put acid free paper on top of the AO base board, lay rolled up print down on top. Use the edge of one A1 mdfsheet to hold down the top edge of the print, unfurl the print, cover in acid free paper and weight down bottom half with one A1 board. Then move the board holding the top edge in place down to weigh down the top half of the print. Leave in a room with no major temperature fluctuations for a few weeks before mounting or sleeving.
Dont flatten prints on floorboards, carpet or lino as the potential to wrinkle or damage a print is too high.
EDIT: A sheet of 8ft by 4ft 15mm MDF cost me ยฃ11 including two cuts from my local timberyard last month.
I would go for plmjs latter suggestion but use 1 sheet of mdf to lay the print out on i.e AO size and two similar sheets of MDF each half the size of the base board i.e. 2 x A1 size. Put acid free paper on top of the AO base board, lay rolled up print down on top. Use the edge of one A1 mdfsheet to hold down the top edge of the print, unfurl the print, cover in acid free paper and weight down bottom half with one A1 board. Then move the board holding the top edge in place down to weigh down the top half of the print. Leave in a room with no major temperature fluctuations for a few weeks before mounting or sleeving.
Dont flatten prints on floorboards, carpet or lino as the potential to wrinkle or damage a print is too high.
EDIT: A sheet of 8ft by 4ft 15mm MDF cost me ยฃ11 including two cuts from my local timberyard last month.
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G-Man
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by G-Man on Jul 31, 2010 10:04:27 GMT 1, in my experience the best way is slowly slowly otherwise you can end up with a really wavy print i would def go for the first option man
in my experience the best way is slowly slowly otherwise you can end up with a really wavy print i would def go for the first option man
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by curiousgeorge on Aug 1, 2010 23:38:19 GMT 1, Take it out of the tube and place it somewhere safe to let it relax,I wouldn't be in a hurry to force it flat after that amount of time in the tube
Take it out of the tube and place it somewhere safe to let it relax,I wouldn't be in a hurry to force it flat after that amount of time in the tube
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by stickitup on Aug 23, 2010 16:24:12 GMT 1, ok to go against the thread here, my weston supermere was kept in its original tube since purchased several years ago, I took it out and pretty much straight away put between acid free tissue and board and put weight on it and its absolutely fine....however I would not reccommend this, the only problem was that as it was so tightly roled when I came to unroll it I put a small dink in it. Obviously the experts above know best with the experience they have drawn on. I am interested to know if a print is rippled if it means its unlikely it can be flattened. And also how much of a percentage should this mean the print is reduced in value?
ok to go against the thread here, my weston supermere was kept in its original tube since purchased several years ago, I took it out and pretty much straight away put between acid free tissue and board and put weight on it and its absolutely fine....however I would not reccommend this, the only problem was that as it was so tightly roled when I came to unroll it I put a small dink in it. Obviously the experts above know best with the experience they have drawn on. I am interested to know if a print is rippled if it means its unlikely it can be flattened. And also how much of a percentage should this mean the print is reduced in value?
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by stickitup on Sept 14, 2010 13:39:33 GMT 1, best advice is to try to flatten. It is possible for the paper to be recoloured and the crease hidden by flattening and recolouring, however do not attempt to do this yourself, go to the print and paper conservation guild and seek advice there. If there is a small dink -and i'll advise with a large handfull of caution - you can use a hand sprayer to lightly spray the reverse of the print and then place it between 2 sheets of blotting paper and then between flat heavy card and place a lot of weight on it and leave for a couple of months, it should flatten it back out. But as I say this needs to be done very carefully to make sure you are not soaking the paper.
best advice is to try to flatten. It is possible for the paper to be recoloured and the crease hidden by flattening and recolouring, however do not attempt to do this yourself, go to the print and paper conservation guild and seek advice there. If there is a small dink -and i'll advise with a large handfull of caution - you can use a hand sprayer to lightly spray the reverse of the print and then place it between 2 sheets of blotting paper and then between flat heavy card and place a lot of weight on it and leave for a couple of months, it should flatten it back out. But as I say this needs to be done very carefully to make sure you are not soaking the paper.
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by Rsyok on Sept 14, 2010 16:01:13 GMT 1, If its worth it find a restorer, if not just flatten and enjoy the creases !
If its worth it find a restorer, if not just flatten and enjoy the creases !
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by nathzz on Apr 8, 2011 19:26:55 GMT 1, Obviously not the best choice of material to flattern a print with, but how long should i have to wait for it you completely flattern? also i think i may need extra acid free tisue, where can i get this? Any help is appreciated!
Obviously not the best choice of material to flattern a print with, but how long should i have to wait for it you completely flattern? also i think i may need extra acid free tisue, where can i get this? Any help is appreciated!
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by mayhem on Apr 8, 2011 20:15:41 GMT 1, longer the better for flattening. i use fibre based photographic paper what wrinkles when its dry. I sometimes leave it for a week. But make sure everything is cleaned with a soft brush. Be really careful and check it regularly. best of luck, hope that helps
longer the better for flattening. i use fibre based photographic paper what wrinkles when its dry. I sometimes leave it for a week. But make sure everything is cleaned with a soft brush. Be really careful and check it regularly. best of luck, hope that helps
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by mrwyatt on May 13, 2011 1:33:21 GMT 1, jeez dude thats a hell of a collection! Well done.
Now if you want a hand getting these flattened just post your address and what times you wont be home during the dayand im sure a few members will be more than happy to pop round and 'sort' these out for you.
jeez dude thats a hell of a collection! Well done.
Now if you want a hand getting these flattened just post your address and what times you wont be home during the dayand im sure a few members will be more than happy to pop round and 'sort' these out for you.
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by iamzero on Dec 6, 2011 19:40:55 GMT 1, Should prints be taped down then? Cant the mount just hold it down? Im nervous about someone taping down my prints. No they should not be taped across the top as this does not allow the paper to expand and contract freely in change of temperature. Dale uses japanese hinges on the top of the print to keep the print in place, then hinges the top of the mount on to the backing board.
So when prints are float mounted to show off the deckled edge is the tape that is used doubled sided to hold the print in place or is there a better way?
Should prints be taped down then? Cant the mount just hold it down? Im nervous about someone taping down my prints. No they should not be taped across the top as this does not allow the paper to expand and contract freely in change of temperature. Dale uses japanese hinges on the top of the print to keep the print in place, then hinges the top of the mount on to the backing board. So when prints are float mounted to show off the deckled edge is the tape that is used doubled sided to hold the print in place or is there a better way? |
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by European Bob on Dec 6, 2011 20:53:36 GMT 1, very helpful thread.... had a lot of trouble with some framers in the past!
very helpful thread.... had a lot of trouble with some framers in the past!
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by speebe on Dec 18, 2011 11:07:24 GMT 1, Just picked up a lovely print but it's really rippled... has anyone here used a hot-press to flatten theirs before?
I know a few bold individuals on here have ironed theirs flat with a few sheets of brown paper but I'm a little too scared to try that.
Just picked up a lovely print but it's really rippled... has anyone here used a hot-press to flatten theirs before?
I know a few bold individuals on here have ironed theirs flat with a few sheets of brown paper but I'm a little too scared to try that.
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Hubble Bubble
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by Hubble Bubble on Dec 18, 2011 12:15:53 GMT 1, Speebe - don't know the value of your print but for ยฃ80 Graham Bignell will soak and dry it which will give it the best chance of returning it to it's flattened state. Personally I think there's too much read into 'rippling'. Much of it can be simply the way the paper hangs when mounted. I have prints that are like the proverbial pancake when in a folio but that ripple when hung.
Either way, hot irons scare the shit out of me 
Speebe - don't know the value of your print but for ยฃ80 Graham Bignell will soak and dry it which will give it the best chance of returning it to it's flattened state. Personally I think there's too much read into 'rippling'. Much of it can be simply the way the paper hangs when mounted. I have prints that are like the proverbial pancake when in a folio but that ripple when hung. Either way, hot irons scare the shit out of me |
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by speebe on Dec 18, 2011 14:02:00 GMT 1, Speebe - don't know the value of your print but for ยฃ80 Graham Bignell will soak and dry it which will give it the best chance of returning it to it's flattened state. Personally I think there's too much read into 'rippling'. Much of it can be simply the way the paper hangs when mounted. I have prints that are like the proverbial pancake when in a folio but that ripple when hung. Either way, hot irons scare the s**t out of me
Cheers hubble... this one could be problematic though as it's covered in glitter too!
Heat could effect the adhesive, as could the water - TRICKY.
Speebe - don't know the value of your print but for ยฃ80 Graham Bignell will soak and dry it which will give it the best chance of returning it to it's flattened state. Personally I think there's too much read into 'rippling'. Much of it can be simply the way the paper hangs when mounted. I have prints that are like the proverbial pancake when in a folio but that ripple when hung. Either way, hot irons scare the s**t out of me Cheers hubble... this one could be problematic though as it's covered in glitter too! Heat could effect the adhesive, as could the water - TRICKY. |
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by ilmambo on Mar 5, 2012 15:12:34 GMT 1, I bought a print on ebay but it arrived damaged, with 3 creases caused by a bad handling of the print, the kind of creases that you got when you're holding the print too tight and rolling it, 3 "C-shaped" creases caused by fingers pressing too hard on the paper.
The price I paid was a good price but the print is not mint anymore. I'm thinking if I should sent it back and ask for a refund or go through the restoration way.
if anyone got any print professional restored/ironed for a damage similar to mine, what kind of costs should I expect?
thanks in advance... looks like I'm having a lot of bad luck with damaged prints recently. 
I bought a print on ebay but it arrived damaged, with 3 creases caused by a bad handling of the print, the kind of creases that you got when you're holding the print too tight and rolling it, 3 "C-shaped" creases caused by fingers pressing too hard on the paper. The price I paid was a good price but the print is not mint anymore. I'm thinking if I should sent it back and ask for a refund or go through the restoration way. if anyone got any print professional restored/ironed for a damage similar to mine, what kind of costs should I expect? thanks in advance... looks like I'm having a lot of bad luck with damaged prints recently. |
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by ilmambo on Mar 5, 2012 15:29:30 GMT 1, I forgot, the creases are on a white area of the paper, not printed, so probably easier (and cheaper) to restore.
but still, since I never had a print restored before, I have no clue about how much it would cost me, so any kind of help is appreciated.
thanks
I forgot, the creases are on a white area of the paper, not printed, so probably easier (and cheaper) to restore.
but still, since I never had a print restored before, I have no clue about how much it would cost me, so any kind of help is appreciated.
thanks
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Flattening Prints โข Creased, Folded, Rolled or Rippled , by Hubble Bubble on Mar 5, 2012 15:30:16 GMT 1, I would have thought ยฃ100 or so from Graham Bignell
I would have thought ยฃ100 or so from Graham Bignell
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