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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by bored with screen names on Oct 9, 2009 2:53:46 GMT 1, NO LONGER ON EBAY DUE TO GIMPS GIVING ME s**t HOPE YA HAPPY NOW !
Not happy, but indifferent.
NO LONGER ON EBAY DUE TO GIMPS GIVING ME s**t HOPE YA HAPPY NOW ! Not happy, but indifferent. |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by bigwilly on Oct 9, 2009 4:24:16 GMT 1, best idea I have heard in years...I would of entered in a minute.....list it on ebay usa as a grab bag prize ( same idea, same contest) or sell tickets......cheers to you mate and i hate all the the haters!
this would be great odds at getting a banksy if ya don't have thousands if pounds
awesome idea...have sliky run it on here and have someone random use a number generator and let's get this rolling....Can I buy two tickets?
best idea I have heard in years...I would of entered in a minute.....list it on ebay usa as a grab bag prize ( same idea, same contest) or sell tickets......cheers to you mate and i hate all the the haters!
this would be great odds at getting a banksy if ya don't have thousands if pounds
awesome idea...have sliky run it on here and have someone random use a number generator and let's get this rolling....Can I buy two tickets?
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by craigf on Oct 9, 2009 7:16:25 GMT 1, Shame that it looks like we have lost another member RIP Burnz 
Shame that it looks like we have lost another member RIP Burnz |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Karl Read on Oct 9, 2009 9:30:57 GMT 1, Wonder why he is no longer here?
Im not saying it was dodgy but whats stopping someone from doing this and there is actually no winner. They get 30x ยฃ40 or whatever it was and everyone else just thinks, "oh well it was a lottery anyway and it was only ยฃ40. Personally i wouldnt enter it!
Wonder why he is no longer here?
Im not saying it was dodgy but whats stopping someone from doing this and there is actually no winner. They get 30x ยฃ40 or whatever it was and everyone else just thinks, "oh well it was a lottery anyway and it was only ยฃ40. Personally i wouldnt enter it!
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by neale on Oct 9, 2009 10:19:38 GMT 1, Another member lost..happy now everyone!!! Jesus you,d hear less b**ching in a girls school.
All Burnz was doing was giving someone the chance to get a cheap signed Banksy, he was a 6 star member, not some scammer who just signed up to pull some con....GROW UP!!
Another member lost..happy now everyone!!! Jesus you,d hear less b**ching in a girls school.
All Burnz was doing was giving someone the chance to get a cheap signed Banksy, he was a 6 star member, not some scammer who just signed up to pull some con....GROW UP!!
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Karl Read on Oct 9, 2009 10:22:03 GMT 1, Another member lot..happy now everyone!!! Jesus you,d hear less b**ching in a girls school. All Burnz was doing was giving someone the chance to get a cheap signed Banksy, he was a 6 star member, not some scammer who just signed up to pull some con....GROW UP!!
Like i said in my post, i was'nt saying he was! I just said whats stopping "anyone" from doing that? Personally i wouldnt buy in to it.
Another member lot..happy now everyone!!! Jesus you,d hear less b**ching in a girls school. All Burnz was doing was giving someone the chance to get a cheap signed Banksy, he was a 6 star member, not some scammer who just signed up to pull some con....GROW UP!! Like i said in my post, i was'nt saying he was! I just said whats stopping "anyone" from doing that? Personally i wouldnt buy in to it. |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by neale on Oct 9, 2009 10:30:08 GMT 1, Not having a go at you personally Banksee, just the general tone of this thread
Not having a go at you personally Banksee, just the general tone of this thread
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Silentbill on Oct 9, 2009 11:16:30 GMT 1, Instead of the ebay route he could have gone via this forum putting these to use.
Id have no problems giving him ยฃ40 at the chance of owning a banksy via this method using forum members, not to keen on the ebay method for numerous reasons but I fully trust Burnz as he was a starred up member.
Instead of the ebay route he could have gone via this forum putting these to use. Id have no problems giving him ยฃ40 at the chance of owning a banksy via this method using forum members, not to keen on the ebay method for numerous reasons but I fully trust Burnz as he was a starred up member. |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by wizzy on Oct 9, 2009 11:25:27 GMT 1, Ditto to that Silentbill, just noticed Burnz has now gone?, i would have chucked 40 squids in Burnz if you are reading, and come back on!!!!!.
Ditto to that Silentbill, just noticed Burnz has now gone?, i would have chucked 40 squids in Burnz if you are reading, and come back on!!!!!.
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Sacked... on Oct 9, 2009 11:34:53 GMT 1, Welcome back burnz.
Welcome back burnz.
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by neale on Oct 9, 2009 11:42:49 GMT 1, Yep, ditto that
Yep, ditto that
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Curley on Oct 9, 2009 12:05:45 GMT 1, Im not saying that this is the case here but any draw like this needs a trustworthy independent witness otherwise its just open to abuse that's why there are strict rules/laws on lotteries etc.
Im not saying that this is the case here but any draw like this needs a trustworthy independent witness otherwise its just open to abuse that's why there are strict rules/laws on lotteries etc.
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by schlomo on Oct 9, 2009 13:05:11 GMT 1, I dont get why people have such a problem with this! surely it makes much more sense than dropping 1200 quid on a print. this way whoever is lucky enough to get it only pays 40 quid, and Burnz makes his money.
Burnz i'd be happy to be involved man, so if you can get enough peeps on the forum to do it why not??
I dont get why people have such a problem with this! surely it makes much more sense than dropping 1200 quid on a print. this way whoever is lucky enough to get it only pays 40 quid, and Burnz makes his money.
Burnz i'd be happy to be involved man, so if you can get enough peeps on the forum to do it why not??
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Curley on Oct 9, 2009 13:33:29 GMT 1, because its too easily manipulated without proper address to a regulator or independent witness to the actual draw.
because its too easily manipulated without proper address to a regulator or independent witness to the actual draw.
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Curley on Oct 9, 2009 13:34:57 GMT 1, The Law
As a general rule gaming, gambling and lotteries are illegal. However, certain activities are permitted subject to strict regulation. The only legal lotteries are the National Lottery, private, society (charity lotteries are the most common example of these) and local authority lotteries which are strictly regulated. Gaming (bingo, bets placed via bookmakers, fruit machines and casino gambling) is allowed but again is regulated. Prize competitions are allowed as long as they fall within the relevant legal definition.
The general rule that lotteries are illegal is contained in section 1 of the Lotteries and Amusements Act 1976 (the Act):-
All lotteries which do not constitute gaming are unlawful, except as provided by this Act (and Section 2(1) of the National Lottery Etc. Act 1993).
This rule stems from concerns about the potentially damaging effects of exposure to lotteries and other forms of gambling.
Section 2 of the Act sets out numerous offences which may be committed by persons connected with any unlawful lottery promoted, or proposed to be promoted, either in Great Britain or elsewhere. The list includes anyone who:-
(i) prints any tickets for use in a lottery;
(ii) sells, distributes, offers or advertises for sale or distribution, or has in his possession for such purposes, any tickets or chances in the lottery;
(iii) prints, publishes or distributes any advertisements of the lottery or any list of prize winners or any description of the drawing or intended drawing of the lottery calculated to act as an inducement for persons to participate in it or in other lotteries;
(iv) uses any premises or permits them to be used for purposes connected with the promotion or conduct of a lottery.
The Law
As a general rule gaming, gambling and lotteries are illegal. However, certain activities are permitted subject to strict regulation. The only legal lotteries are the National Lottery, private, society (charity lotteries are the most common example of these) and local authority lotteries which are strictly regulated. Gaming (bingo, bets placed via bookmakers, fruit machines and casino gambling) is allowed but again is regulated. Prize competitions are allowed as long as they fall within the relevant legal definition.
The general rule that lotteries are illegal is contained in section 1 of the Lotteries and Amusements Act 1976 (the Act):-
All lotteries which do not constitute gaming are unlawful, except as provided by this Act (and Section 2(1) of the National Lottery Etc. Act 1993).
This rule stems from concerns about the potentially damaging effects of exposure to lotteries and other forms of gambling.
Section 2 of the Act sets out numerous offences which may be committed by persons connected with any unlawful lottery promoted, or proposed to be promoted, either in Great Britain or elsewhere. The list includes anyone who:-
(i) prints any tickets for use in a lottery;
(ii) sells, distributes, offers or advertises for sale or distribution, or has in his possession for such purposes, any tickets or chances in the lottery;
(iii) prints, publishes or distributes any advertisements of the lottery or any list of prize winners or any description of the drawing or intended drawing of the lottery calculated to act as an inducement for persons to participate in it or in other lotteries;
(iv) uses any premises or permits them to be used for purposes connected with the promotion or conduct of a lottery.
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by burn111 on Oct 9, 2009 13:38:22 GMT 1, what if you was to buy a raffle ticket? ;D
what if you was to buy a raffle ticket? ;D
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by burn111 on Oct 9, 2009 13:39:45 GMT 1, because its too easily manipulated without proper address to a regulator or independent witness to the actual draw.
it says the draw will be on tv (lotto) everyone would see what the winning number would be
because its too easily manipulated without proper address to a regulator or independent witness to the actual draw. it says the draw will be on tv (lotto) everyone would see what the winning number would be |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Curley on Oct 9, 2009 13:44:34 GMT 1, what if you was to buy a raffle ticket? ;D
Definition of a Lottery
The Act does not define a lottery. The accepted definition is that given by Lord Widgery CJ, in Readers Digest -v- Williams [1976] 3 All ER 737, where he stated:
A lottery is a distribution of prizes by chance where the persons taking part in the operation, or a substantial number of them, make a payment or consideration in return for obtaining their chance of a prize.
Three essential elements therefore have to be present:-
(i) a distribution of prizes;
(ii) a distribution done by means of chance;
(iii) some actual consideration made by the participants in return for obtaining the chance
what if you was to buy a raffle ticket? ;D Definition of a Lottery The Act does not define a lottery. The accepted definition is that given by Lord Widgery CJ, in Readers Digest -v- Williams [1976] 3 All ER 737, where he stated: A lottery is a distribution of prizes by chance where the persons taking part in the operation, or a substantial number of them, make a payment or consideration in return for obtaining their chance of a prize. Three essential elements therefore have to be present:- (i) a distribution of prizes; (ii) a distribution done by means of chance; (iii) some actual consideration made by the participants in return for obtaining the chance |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by schlomo on Oct 9, 2009 13:47:07 GMT 1, if he posts the name of everyone who enters, and their assigned number, and then the draw is as he says done using the lotto, then everyone would see straight away who had won so there could be no chance of it being manipulated (unless hes Derren Brown??)....
if he posts the name of everyone who enters, and their assigned number, and then the draw is as he says done using the lotto, then everyone would see straight away who had won so there could be no chance of it being manipulated (unless hes Derren Brown??)....
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by burn111 on Oct 9, 2009 13:48:38 GMT 1, and even darren brown gets it wrong sometimes ;D
bet he was gutted he lost that ยฃ5000 ;D
and even darren brown gets it wrong sometimes ;D
bet he was gutted he lost that ยฃ5000 ;D
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by burn111 on Oct 9, 2009 13:49:57 GMT 1, if he posts the name of everyone who enters, and their assigned number, and then the draw is as he says done using the lotto, then everyone would see straight away who had won so there could be no chance of it being manipulated (unless hes Derren Brown??)....
that is very true
if he posts the name of everyone who enters, and their assigned number, and then the draw is as he says done using the lotto, then everyone would see straight away who had won so there could be no chance of it being manipulated (unless hes Derren Brown??).... that is very true |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by burn111 on Oct 9, 2009 13:51:05 GMT 1, and who really gives a shot about the law when most of us go round spraying up walls un other stuff ;D
and who really gives a shot about the law when most of us go round spraying up walls un other stuff ;D
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Karl Read on Oct 9, 2009 14:14:10 GMT 1, if he posts the name of everyone who enters, and their assigned number, and then the draw is as he says done using the lotto, then everyone would see straight away who had won so there could be no chance of it being manipulated (unless hes Derren Brown??)....
Now that would work.
if he posts the name of everyone who enters, and their assigned number, and then the draw is as he says done using the lotto, then everyone would see straight away who had won so there could be no chance of it being manipulated (unless hes Derren Brown??).... Now that would work. |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by neale on Oct 9, 2009 15:44:54 GMT 1, I just cannot believe this thread, Does Curley work for the Lottery Commision??
Burnz, if you want to offer this to the forum, and God knows why you would, then I'm in, I have no problem at all with your lottery, and I'm sure others would agree with me, Be interesting to see how many of the people that gave you a hard time bought a ticket!!
I just cannot believe this thread, Does Curley work for the Lottery Commision??
Burnz, if you want to offer this to the forum, and God knows why you would, then I'm in, I have no problem at all with your lottery, and I'm sure others would agree with me, Be interesting to see how many of the people that gave you a hard time bought a ticket!!
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by neale on Oct 9, 2009 15:53:21 GMT 1, Hey Burnz, put me down for number 14, anyone else pick a number between 1 and 49 and lets get this show on the road.
Hey Burnz, put me down for number 14, anyone else pick a number between 1 and 49 and lets get this show on the road.
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Curley on Oct 9, 2009 16:12:30 GMT 1, I just cannot believe this thread, Does Curley work for the Lottery Commision?? Burnz, if you want to offer this to the forum, and God knows why you would, then I'm in, I have no problem at all with your lottery, and I'm sure others would agree with me, Be interesting to see how many of the people that gave you a hard time bought a ticket!!
No i don't work for the lottery but i do know that they are strictly regulated and no i will not be entering.
As i said i was playing devils advocate because not everything you see on this forum as clear as it should be, who can forget Verbals and his charity scam. Everyone falling over themselves to donate art for charity for it to be not seen again for nearly a year.
Good luck with your sale/lottery or whatever you want to call it.
I just cannot believe this thread, Does Curley work for the Lottery Commision?? Burnz, if you want to offer this to the forum, and God knows why you would, then I'm in, I have no problem at all with your lottery, and I'm sure others would agree with me, Be interesting to see how many of the people that gave you a hard time bought a ticket!! No i don't work for the lottery but i do know that they are strictly regulated and no i will not be entering. As i said i was playing devils advocate because not everything you see on this forum as clear as it should be, who can forget Verbals and his charity scam. Everyone falling over themselves to donate art for charity for it to be not seen again for nearly a year. Good luck with your sale/lottery or whatever you want to call it. |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by schlomo on Oct 9, 2009 16:19:47 GMT 1, Number 7 for me please Burnz. My lucky number, come on number 7........
Number 7 for me please Burnz. My lucky number, come on number 7........
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by neale on Oct 9, 2009 16:27:16 GMT 1, I just cannot believe this thread, Does Curley work for the Lottery Commision?? Burnz, if you want to offer this to the forum, and God knows why you would, then I'm in, I have no problem at all with your lottery, and I'm sure others would agree with me, Be interesting to see how many of the people that gave you a hard time bought a ticket!! No i don't work for the lottery but i do know that they are strictly regulated and no i will not be entering. As i said i was playing devils advocate because not everything you see on this forum as clear as it should be, who can forget Verbals and his charity scam. Everyone falling over themselves to donate art for charity for it to be not seen again for nearly a year. Good luck with your sale/lottery or whatever you want to call it. 
I just cannot believe this thread, Does Curley work for the Lottery Commision?? Burnz, if you want to offer this to the forum, and God knows why you would, then I'm in, I have no problem at all with your lottery, and I'm sure others would agree with me, Be interesting to see how many of the people that gave you a hard time bought a ticket!! No i don't work for the lottery but i do know that they are strictly regulated and no i will not be entering. As i said i was playing devils advocate because not everything you see on this forum as clear as it should be, who can forget Verbals and his charity scam. Everyone falling over themselves to donate art for charity for it to be not seen again for nearly a year. Good luck with your sale/lottery or whatever you want to call it. Curley, I understand your viewpoint, but I dont know how Burnz could make it any fairer, everyone can pick their own number, no one pays out till he gets 49 people, and the draw is on national tv.....job's a good un |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by Curley on Oct 9, 2009 16:33:47 GMT 1, No i don't work for the lottery but i do know that they are strictly regulated and no i will not be entering. As i said i was playing devils advocate because not everything you see on this forum as clear as it should be, who can forget Verbals and his charity scam. Everyone falling over themselves to donate art for charity for it to be not seen again for nearly a year. Good luck with your sale/lottery or whatever you want to call it. Curley, I understand your viewpoint, but I dont know how Burnz could make it any fairer, everyone can pick their own number, no one pays out till he gets 49 people, and the draw is on national tv.....job's a good un
He could sell it like everyone else for what its worth.
As i said best of luck to everyone but im out. 
No i don't work for the lottery but i do know that they are strictly regulated and no i will not be entering. As i said i was playing devils advocate because not everything you see on this forum as clear as it should be, who can forget Verbals and his charity scam. Everyone falling over themselves to donate art for charity for it to be not seen again for nearly a year. Good luck with your sale/lottery or whatever you want to call it. Curley, I understand your viewpoint, but I dont know how Burnz could make it any fairer, everyone can pick their own number, no one pays out till he gets 49 people, and the draw is on national tv.....job's a good un He could sell it like everyone else for what its worth. As i said best of luck to everyone but im out. |
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IN IT TO WIN IT! Signed Banksy Print!, by eduarandres on Oct 9, 2009 16:56:28 GMT 1, This is a good idea and i agree with many of the coments at the end of the day if you know you number then just watch the lottery and you will know if you won or not .
its not like he is going to pop the number out of a hat its on tv and everybody will see
This is a good idea and i agree with many of the coments at the end of the day if you know you number then just watch the lottery and you will know if you won or not .
its not like he is going to pop the number out of a hat its on tv and everybody will see
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