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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by G-Man on Nov 10, 2009 14:22:49 GMT 1, This release is GREAT news for people like me who are huge fans of Parla but cant afford an original
I cant wait to see what images he chooses and ed sizes/prices etc
At last..... Hopefully a Parla heading for my wall
This release is GREAT news for people like me who are huge fans of Parla but cant afford an original
I cant wait to see what images he chooses and ed sizes/prices etc
At last..... Hopefully a Parla heading for my wall
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by Agent Provocateur on Nov 10, 2009 14:42:57 GMT 1, Oooh interesting... fascinated to see the final three prints, haven't got a clue how the giclee / screen print elements will work together! I have two trains of thought, one, his previous prints have been a bit flat with nothing like the power and tactility of the originals (I'm thinking of the brown type based ones... I think!?) so they may be slightly disapointing. Two, with the continued quality of his og's and experience with editions in the past he may pull something truly awesome out of the proverbial hat and all our jaws will be on the ground 
I for one would like to be there when they're launched... with a big wodge of spondoolies 
Oooh interesting... fascinated to see the final three prints, haven't got a clue how the giclee / screen print elements will work together! I have two trains of thought, one, his previous prints have been a bit flat with nothing like the power and tactility of the originals (I'm thinking of the brown type based ones... I think!?) so they may be slightly disapointing. Two, with the continued quality of his og's and experience with editions in the past he may pull something truly awesome out of the proverbial hat and all our jaws will be on the ground I for one would like to be there when they're launched... with a big wodge of spondoolies |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by Neate Michael on Nov 10, 2009 14:44:00 GMT 1, I have loved Parla ever since I first saw him at Elms Lester... Would kill for a caligraphy style piece but never been able to afford one.
I would love a print but it's number one son's first ever birthday and so I will be celebrating that... But if any prints are available to buy after the Saturday I will try...
I am sure they will be good... We have 2 Adam Neate prints at home and they are ace!
I have loved Parla ever since I first saw him at Elms Lester... Would kill for a caligraphy style piece but never been able to afford one.
I would love a print but it's number one son's first ever birthday and so I will be celebrating that... But if any prints are available to buy after the Saturday I will try...
I am sure they will be good... We have 2 Adam Neate prints at home and they are ace!
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by notworthit on Nov 10, 2009 14:52:59 GMT 1, And what about multi-plate lithography? That would be the ideal choice here over a cheap facsimile eh? He could paint each plate (color) by hand and build up all of the layers one on top of the other, he might even learn something in the process. Instead like all across this scene, more cheap posters for a quick buck.
You're showing your ignorance again.
And what about multi-plate lithography? That would be the ideal choice here over a cheap facsimile eh? He could paint each plate (color) by hand and build up all of the layers one on top of the other, he might even learn something in the process. Instead like all across this scene, more cheap posters for a quick buck. You're showing your ignorance again. |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by notworthit on Nov 10, 2009 14:53:50 GMT 1, these aren't just giclees- "Combining the highest possible quality giclee process with overlayering of Jose's trademark, free-flowing calligraphy in multiple screenprints the resulting works capture the very essence of his original paintings"
"these aren't just giclees - They're M&S Giclees!!"
these aren't just giclees- "Combining the highest possible quality giclee process with overlayering of Jose's trademark, free-flowing calligraphy in multiple screenprints the resulting works capture the very essence of his original paintings" "these aren't just giclees - They're M&S Giclees!!" |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by twist65 on Nov 10, 2009 15:33:02 GMT 1, and your point is? surely on a Banksy forum of all places, we can look to a slightly more inclusive appreciation of art just responding to the statement 'art is for everyone'. People dismissing things as 'so elitist' are well beyond the point. The ownership of fine art by its very nature has to be elitist, has to be restricted, and can not be democratic. There is nothing inclusive about it. Back to Parla, I am confused by this print released but am willing to give it a chance to see if they can pull it off. Personally, I've always viewed the watercolors as Parla's version of a print.
Ermmm, isn't this why artists produce prints? So that artists who's work is appreciated by more than a handful of elitist collectors can enjoy/'own' their work? Surely whole concept of editions is inclusive - to include people who can't afford an original!
and your point is? surely on a Banksy forum of all places, we can look to a slightly more inclusive appreciation of art just responding to the statement 'art is for everyone'. People dismissing things as 'so elitist' are well beyond the point. The ownership of fine art by its very nature has to be elitist, has to be restricted, and can not be democratic. There is nothing inclusive about it. Back to Parla, I am confused by this print released but am willing to give it a chance to see if they can pull it off. Personally, I've always viewed the watercolors as Parla's version of a print. Ermmm, isn't this why artists produce prints? So that artists who's work is appreciated by more than a handful of elitist collectors can enjoy/'own' their work? Surely whole concept of editions is inclusive - to include people who can't afford an original! |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by snausages on Nov 10, 2009 16:13:29 GMT 1, You're showing your ignorance again.
Just trying in to fit in mate.
And besides your giclee argument was semantics, I didn't bother to respond. But if you took a moment to actually read my post you might get that I wasn't arguing here against the quality of a giclee anyway, just the point that it's a quick and cheap facsimile, instead of an actual work of art like a litho, etching, etc.
You're showing your ignorance again. Just trying in to fit in mate. And besides your giclee argument was semantics, I didn't bother to respond. But if you took a moment to actually read my post you might get that I wasn't arguing here against the quality of a giclee anyway, just the point that it's a quick and cheap facsimile, instead of an actual work of art like a litho, etching, etc. |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by mutant on Nov 10, 2009 16:24:28 GMT 1, Really looking forward to seeing these. Like hlarmy, if anybody would do a fellow forum member from the States a favor, please drop me a PM about the pics and price. For those who can make it to the show, enjoy.
Really looking forward to seeing these. Like hlarmy, if anybody would do a fellow forum member from the States a favor, please drop me a PM about the pics and price. For those who can make it to the show, enjoy.
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by Happy Shopper on Nov 10, 2009 17:20:40 GMT 1, And what about multi-plate lithography? That would be the ideal choice here over a cheap facsimile eh? He could paint each plate (color) by hand and build up all of the layers one on top of the other, he might even learn something in the process. Instead like all across this scene, more cheap posters for a quick buck.
Would be good if someone tried this... but I actually think the only way to reproduce Jose's watercolours is probably Giclee.
I suggested using Litho to a gallery who didn't think they could get the fine detail they wanted with a Screen Print, but wanted the strong flat colours. They didn't do it though!
I don't think many people know that you can use "Special Colours" with Litho, just like Screen printing, but get far finer detail.
And what about multi-plate lithography? That would be the ideal choice here over a cheap facsimile eh? He could paint each plate (color) by hand and build up all of the layers one on top of the other, he might even learn something in the process. Instead like all across this scene, more cheap posters for a quick buck. Would be good if someone tried this... but I actually think the only way to reproduce Jose's watercolours is probably Giclee. I suggested using Litho to a gallery who didn't think they could get the fine detail they wanted with a Screen Print, but wanted the strong flat colours. They didn't do it though! I don't think many people know that you can use "Special Colours" with Litho, just like Screen printing, but get far finer detail. |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by grantb on Nov 10, 2009 17:27:12 GMT 1, I think it's great that parla is releasing prints I'm sure every parla fan will want one an be happy they can get one for the walls if affordable. And I'm sure parla knows whatnL his doing by the printing process, after all he is incredibly talented and won't release shit.
Now we await Ed size and price. I'm sure they will be affordable hence probably why he is doing this?
I think it's great that parla is releasing prints I'm sure every parla fan will want one an be happy they can get one for the walls if affordable. And I'm sure parla knows whatnL his doing by the printing process, after all he is incredibly talented and won't release shit.
Now we await Ed size and price. I'm sure they will be affordable hence probably why he is doing this?
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by snausages on Nov 10, 2009 17:44:15 GMT 1, Would be good if someone tried this... but I actually think the only way to reproduce Jose's watercolours is probably Giclee.
But you're still talking about reproduction. I'm not talking about 4 color separation here.
I'm talking about "printmaking," it's practically a lost art now that everyone realizes they can rip off a giclee and pretend as though they're making "prints."
I can't embed this video but click the link it's a very good and quick overview of the process. This is the kind of (lithographic) printmaking that most artists do, it explains it pretty well: www.brandywineworkshop.com/videos
Artist and master printer working the plate:
Would be good if someone tried this... but I actually think the only way to reproduce Jose's watercolours is probably Giclee. But you're still talking about reproduction. I'm not talking about 4 color separation here. I'm talking about "printmaking," it's practically a lost art now that everyone realizes they can rip off a giclee and pretend as though they're making "prints." I can't embed this video but click the link it's a very good and quick overview of the process. This is the kind of (lithographic) printmaking that most artists do, it explains it pretty well: www.brandywineworkshop.com/videosArtist and master printer working the plate: |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by Happy Shopper on Nov 10, 2009 17:53:09 GMT 1, Would be good if someone tried this... but I actually think the only way to reproduce Jose's watercolours is probably Giclee. But you're still talking about reproduction. I'm not talking about 4 color separation here.
I know, I'm agreeing with you.
Not sure if they can do colours blending into one another or translucent. Looks like solid colours in the video, and that's how I imagine it to work. No gradients, just like Screen printing but finer detail.
I'd love to see these close up to see though!
Would be good if someone tried this... but I actually think the only way to reproduce Jose's watercolours is probably Giclee. But you're still talking about reproduction. I'm not talking about 4 color separation here. I know, I'm agreeing with you. Not sure if they can do colours blending into one another or translucent. Looks like solid colours in the video, and that's how I imagine it to work. No gradients, just like Screen printing but finer detail. I'd love to see these close up to see though! |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by snausages on Nov 10, 2009 18:09:27 GMT 1, Ok, and yeah they can do translucent, any kind of ink and color is possible. In this process gradients are possible through layering of colors and through "rainbow rolls" where one side of the roller has a different color than the other and they blend in the middle. These prints do look phenomenal though, the colors are very rich and saturated and you can really see the layering of color one on top of the other.
By the way, Brandywine Workshop accepts applications from artists all over the world, if selected they will be given a stipend to go and stay in philadlephia and be allowed to produce a print with their master printer. The artist gets to keep 50 of the prints and Brandywine keeps 50 to sell and to cover their costs (as they are a non profit.) I'd rather see Jose or any artist today do this instead of print off a giclee.
Ok, and yeah they can do translucent, any kind of ink and color is possible. In this process gradients are possible through layering of colors and through "rainbow rolls" where one side of the roller has a different color than the other and they blend in the middle. These prints do look phenomenal though, the colors are very rich and saturated and you can really see the layering of color one on top of the other.
By the way, Brandywine Workshop accepts applications from artists all over the world, if selected they will be given a stipend to go and stay in philadlephia and be allowed to produce a print with their master printer. The artist gets to keep 50 of the prints and Brandywine keeps 50 to sell and to cover their costs (as they are a non profit.) I'd rather see Jose or any artist today do this instead of print off a giclee.
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by skanky on Nov 10, 2009 18:20:08 GMT 1, these aren't just giclees- "Combining the highest possible quality giclee process with overlayering of Jose's trademark, free-flowing calligraphy in multiple screenprints the resulting works capture the very essence of his original paintings"
Good point slammer it will be interesting to see the results from a combination of both giclee and screenprint.
these aren't just giclees- "Combining the highest possible quality giclee process with overlayering of Jose's trademark, free-flowing calligraphy in multiple screenprints the resulting works capture the very essence of his original paintings" Good point slammer it will be interesting to see the results from a combination of both giclee and screenprint. |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by curiousgeorge on Nov 10, 2009 18:20:20 GMT 1, Reading between the lines it seems owners of originals are not happy about this release??
Reading between the lines it seems owners of originals are not happy about this release??
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by skanky on Nov 10, 2009 18:24:17 GMT 1, I cant see why, thats a bit of an assumption to make. I really think its a good thing to open up his work to a wider audience. Only my opinion though.
I cant see why, thats a bit of an assumption to make. I really think its a good thing to open up his work to a wider audience. Only my opinion though.
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by jones27 on Nov 10, 2009 18:36:16 GMT 1, Definitely a good thing to happen. Very much looking forward to this. Interesting process too.
Definitely a good thing to happen. Very much looking forward to this. Interesting process too.
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by Cocteau 101 on Nov 10, 2009 18:46:23 GMT 1, Reading between the lines it seems owners of originals are not happy about this release??
As an owner of two canvasses and two watercolours I was just surprised at the move. I haven't drawn any real conclusions yet and will wait to see the prints when they are released. I'm sure a lot of thought will have been put into these and the quality will be high. I'm just surprised that's all. I'm not particularly pissed off as I love the guys work and have bought for that reason. My pieces will be with me for many years to come and I am also still on the lookout for pieces as a result of the recent non auction sales and peoples somewhat negative reaction to them. In my view Parla is a serious artist for the long term, only time will tell whether he actually steps into the major league and that depends on numerous factors most notably does he want to.
Having said that however and back to the prints, it does give a wider number of people access to his work at a pricepoint away from both watercolours and canvasses.
Reading between the lines it seems owners of originals are not happy about this release?? As an owner of two canvasses and two watercolours I was just surprised at the move. I haven't drawn any real conclusions yet and will wait to see the prints when they are released. I'm sure a lot of thought will have been put into these and the quality will be high. I'm just surprised that's all. I'm not particularly pissed off as I love the guys work and have bought for that reason. My pieces will be with me for many years to come and I am also still on the lookout for pieces as a result of the recent non auction sales and peoples somewhat negative reaction to them. In my view Parla is a serious artist for the long term, only time will tell whether he actually steps into the major league and that depends on numerous factors most notably does he want to. Having said that however and back to the prints, it does give a wider number of people access to his work at a pricepoint away from both watercolours and canvasses. |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by maadbeats on Nov 10, 2009 18:55:45 GMT 1, Reading between the lines it seems owners of originals are not happy about this release??
I'm an owner and completely fine with this. I even want one.
Reading between the lines it seems owners of originals are not happy about this release?? I'm an owner and completely fine with this. I even want one. |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by Bram on Nov 10, 2009 19:33:53 GMT 1, These will be special, I'm sure of that, It could well be a "Dylan Plugs In" moment but I hope not. Jose and Elms would not put their names to a 2nd rate, money grabbing opportunity at this stage.
These will be special, I'm sure of that, It could well be a "Dylan Plugs In" moment but I hope not. Jose and Elms would not put their names to a 2nd rate, money grabbing opportunity at this stage.
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by Deleted on Nov 10, 2009 19:38:49 GMT 1, These will be special, I'm sure of that, It could well be a "Dylan Plugs In" moment but I hope not. Jose and Elms would not put their names to a 2nd rate, money grabbing opportunity at this stage.
I couldn't agree more.
These will be special, I'm sure of that, It could well be a "Dylan Plugs In" moment but I hope not. Jose and Elms would not put their names to a 2nd rate, money grabbing opportunity at this stage. I couldn't agree more. |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by veralynn on Nov 10, 2009 21:18:14 GMT 1, I'd third that - and for those who mightn't be able to make the show due to geography, why not send Elms a e-mail explaning where you're at and so on.
They run a wholly professional outfit and I think you might be surprised at the response.
I'd third that - and for those who mightn't be able to make the show due to geography, why not send Elms a e-mail explaning where you're at and so on.
They run a wholly professional outfit and I think you might be surprised at the response.
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by qstick333 on Nov 10, 2009 21:45:15 GMT 1, I'd third that - and for those who mightn't be able to make the show due to geography, why not send Elms a e-mail explaning where you're at and so on. They run a wholly professional outfit and I think you might be surprised at the response.
I sent an email this morning explaining where I was located and that I was hoping to acquire a print. I received a generic reply back saying "more information would be announced". It did not say when or what etc.......
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I'd third that - and for those who mightn't be able to make the show due to geography, why not send Elms a e-mail explaning where you're at and so on. They run a wholly professional outfit and I think you might be surprised at the response. I sent an email this morning explaining where I was located and that I was hoping to acquire a print. I received a generic reply back saying "more information would be announced". It did not say when or what etc....... Zach |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by sashaz on Nov 10, 2009 22:05:22 GMT 1, I still want to know are these purley form based or are they readable in Arabic?
I still want to know are these purley form based or are they readable in Arabic?
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by Francis on Nov 11, 2009 1:23:52 GMT 1, I still want to know are these purley form based or are they readable in Arabic?
yes, most of his pieces say things like "kill yourself" and "do drugs" and "speak back to your mum" over and over and over again
I still want to know are these purley form based or are they readable in Arabic? yes, most of his pieces say things like "kill yourself" and "do drugs" and "speak back to your mum" over and over and over again |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by digitalkid on Nov 11, 2009 11:42:43 GMT 1, image from above link?!
image from above link?! |
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by HRE on Nov 11, 2009 13:41:33 GMT 1, Does anyone have pictures of the prints that Parla released before?
Does anyone have pictures of the prints that Parla released before?
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José Parlá Print Release - Elms Lesters - 5th Dec, by HRE on Nov 11, 2009 13:51:42 GMT 1, Cheers. i hope these new prints have a really depth to them
Cheers. i hope these new prints have a really depth to them
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