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v for vandal, by alsbabar on Apr 17, 2008 15:58:29 GMT 1, I don't condone Bellman but ...
If he gives BRP the details,
and there lies your answer funyoung!!
I don't condone Bellman but ...
If he gives BRP the details,
and there lies your answer funyoung!!
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v for vandal, by rosstierney on Apr 17, 2008 16:00:08 GMT 1, cheers mate, ive got the confermation printed off but no payment or email confermation for vandal airways yet. Ive never had an email confermation from them before on previous purchases like.
yeah, i didn't get one for street improvements 3. it just turned up one day. fingers crossed eh.
cheers mate, ive got the confermation printed off but no payment or email confermation for vandal airways yet. Ive never had an email confermation from them before on previous purchases like. yeah, i didn't get one for street improvements 3. it just turned up one day. fingers crossed eh. |
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v for vandal, by funyoung on Apr 17, 2008 16:00:56 GMT 1, I don't condone Bellman but ... If he gives BRP the details, and there lies your answer funyoung!!
Bit confused.
Assuming they aren't your details he has then don't understand.
I was trying to reason out his thinking, that's all.
I don't condone Bellman but ... If he gives BRP the details, and there lies your answer funyoung!! Bit confused. Assuming they aren't your details he has then don't understand. I was trying to reason out his thinking, that's all. |
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v for vandal, by alsbabar on Apr 17, 2008 16:02:14 GMT 1, hey wiseblood i managed to buy both after receiving a helping hand from a friend for vandal airways i have printed confirmation for both, email confirmation for vandal airways & only one payment taken from my account, for which print i don't know  cheers mate, ive got the confermation printed off but no payment or email confermation for vandal airways yet. Ive never had an email confermation from them before on previous purchases like.
the tax invoice has at the end what the order details are.
hey wiseblood i managed to buy both after receiving a helping hand from a friend for vandal airways i have printed confirmation for both, email confirmation for vandal airways & only one payment taken from my account, for which print i don't know cheers mate, ive got the confermation printed off but no payment or email confermation for vandal airways yet. Ive never had an email confermation from them before on previous purchases like. the tax invoice has at the end what the order details are. |
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v for vandal, by Montubu7 on Apr 17, 2008 16:02:49 GMT 1, To be honest the seller can do with the print what they want but to list before he even gets it is taking the piss a little especially when sellers have had orders cancelled before from other sites.
Theres always emotions running high when people miss out so to offer for sale before you even have it tbh he deserves not to get it at all.
To be honest the seller can do with the print what they want but to list before he even gets it is taking the piss a little especially when sellers have had orders cancelled before from other sites.
Theres always emotions running high when people miss out so to offer for sale before you even have it tbh he deserves not to get it at all.
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v for vandal, by spirit on Apr 17, 2008 16:04:15 GMT 1, Can someone please explain to me what's desirable about this print because honestly I am so confused right now. Feels like one big in-joke I'm not in on. On a related note before I get accused of having some hidden agenda to bring down Nick Walker from the inside out I do very much like Vandal Airways.
what he said
Can someone please explain to me what's desirable about this print because honestly I am so confused right now. Feels like one big in-joke I'm not in on. On a related note before I get accused of having some hidden agenda to bring down Nick Walker from the inside out I do very much like Vandal Airways. what he said |
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v for vandal, by alsbabar on Apr 17, 2008 16:07:11 GMT 1, I don't condone Bellman but ... If he gives BRP the details, and there lies your answer funyoung!! Bit confused. Assuming they aren't your details he has then don't understand. I was trying to reason out his thinking, that's all.
I will PM you Funyoung so we can go back to talking about the art
I don't condone Bellman but ... If he gives BRP the details, and there lies your answer funyoung!! Bit confused. Assuming they aren't your details he has then don't understand. I was trying to reason out his thinking, that's all. I will PM you Funyoung so we can go back to talking about the art |
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v for vandal, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2008 16:07:23 GMT 1, when I bought my moses etching I didn't get an email confirmation either but it was because I mis-spelled my email address (me not smart). Also, try checking your junk/spam folders.
when I bought my moses etching I didn't get an email confirmation either but it was because I mis-spelled my email address (me not smart). Also, try checking your junk/spam folders.
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v for vandal, by spirit on Apr 17, 2008 16:16:55 GMT 1, I don't condone Bellman's actions but I don't condemn them either. The fact that he posted the details here under a dummy account (I assume, it being his first post and all) suggests that he probably used a dummy account on ebay to make the purchases as well. Therefore I doubt he is worried about his contactual obligations as an ebay seller. It would probably have been better to send the details to brp instead of postong them here tho'. Flippers who sell on ebay without even having the print in their hands should realise the risk they are taking and should not really be surprised when this kind of thing happens.
I don't condone Bellman's actions but I don't condemn them either. The fact that he posted the details here under a dummy account (I assume, it being his first post and all) suggests that he probably used a dummy account on ebay to make the purchases as well. Therefore I doubt he is worried about his contactual obligations as an ebay seller. It would probably have been better to send the details to brp instead of postong them here tho'. Flippers who sell on ebay without even having the print in their hands should realise the risk they are taking and should not really be surprised when this kind of thing happens.
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v for vandal, by streetgirl on Apr 17, 2008 16:49:50 GMT 1, Just noticed this at the top of the forum on the ebay banner
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170211362244
Mental(izm)
Edit: just seen this has already been posted earlier in the thread...that'll teach me to skip pages when playing catch up.
Sorry.
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v for vandal, by gtf on Apr 17, 2008 16:51:58 GMT 1, I thought about doing what Bellman did but was too lazy. Congrats to him or her for taking some action, and if he passes the info on to BRP and they take action, so much the better. BTW, I got the print I wanted so no sour grapes from me.
If people made it impossible for people to flip art like this, then they would stop doing it. This would make it a whole lot easier for those who wanted to buy it to for the wall to do so.
And before anyone goes on about contract law and rules and other BS, most of the artists that are talked about on this board are taking direct action and illegally decorating the streets. Think about it.........
I thought about doing what Bellman did but was too lazy. Congrats to him or her for taking some action, and if he passes the info on to BRP and they take action, so much the better. BTW, I got the print I wanted so no sour grapes from me.
If people made it impossible for people to flip art like this, then they would stop doing it. This would make it a whole lot easier for those who wanted to buy it to for the wall to do so.
And before anyone goes on about contract law and rules and other BS, most of the artists that are talked about on this board are taking direct action and illegally decorating the streets. Think about it.........
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v for vandal, by bellman on Apr 17, 2008 17:05:50 GMT 1, Bellman apologizes for indiscretion on the forum, action born of sheer frustration, all detail passed to Black Rat
Bellman apologizes for indiscretion on the forum, action born of sheer frustration, all detail passed to Black Rat
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v for vandal, by jam on Apr 17, 2008 17:07:53 GMT 1, Looks like a few are up on US Ebay as well... on that point, why dont the Walkers in the US show up on an ebay UK search?
Looks like a few are up on US Ebay as well... on that point, why dont the Walkers in the US show up on an ebay UK search?
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v for vandal, by jed100375 on Apr 17, 2008 17:08:51 GMT 1, My Two pence worth!
I agree with Lampsy --- Bellman you are a complete bell end! I have been queing at BRP and was lucky enough not only to get my hands on the haly grail of 75 but also the V for vands....
I was totally gonna flip the second soon as i got it cause i wanna fund for another purchase that i have been after for a while. How the fuck do you know why the seller is selling?? So fucking what if people do this??!! At the end of the day people need more dedication to obtaining prints and if it means you sit infront of your pC like t**t then you should do it. I think you have nothing against this guy at all its just a matter of sour grapes. Get a better pc and connection and while you at it get a fucking life!!
My Two pence worth!
I agree with Lampsy --- Bellman you are a complete bell end! I have been queing at BRP and was lucky enough not only to get my hands on the haly grail of 75 but also the V for vands....
I was totally gonna flip the second soon as i got it cause i wanna fund for another purchase that i have been after for a while. How the fuck do you know why the seller is selling?? So fucking what if people do this??!! At the end of the day people need more dedication to obtaining prints and if it means you sit infront of your pC like t**t then you should do it. I think you have nothing against this guy at all its just a matter of sour grapes. Get a better pc and connection and while you at it get a fucking life!!
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v for vandal, by paulypaul on Apr 17, 2008 17:09:20 GMT 1, Looks like a few are up on US Ebay as well... on that point, why dont the Walkers in the US show up on an ebay UK search?
You have to amend the search area on the right...
Looks like a few are up on US Ebay as well... on that point, why dont the Walkers in the US show up on an ebay UK search? You have to amend the search area on the right... |
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v for vandal, by stender on Apr 17, 2008 17:28:05 GMT 1, Just read the londonpaper on my way home and it had photos of the vandal print being shone onto big ben and the bank of england this morning.
flickr.com/photos/no-eyed-dear/2419275398/
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v for vandal, by alsbabar on Apr 17, 2008 17:30:32 GMT 1, jed - i can and do respect your honest and open opinion and good luck to you.
jed - i can and do respect your honest and open opinion and good luck to you.
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v for vandal, by Guest on Apr 17, 2008 17:35:42 GMT 1,
I was a bit dubious of the light show, but seeing it like that, it looks fuc king awsome.
I was a bit dubious of the light show, but seeing it like that, it looks fuc king awsome. |
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v for vandal, by alsbabar on Apr 17, 2008 17:37:21 GMT 1, you should go down and see his streetpiece he did in Old Street today, apparantly it is spectacular
you should go down and see his streetpiece he did in Old Street today, apparantly it is spectacular
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v for vandal, by Guest on Apr 17, 2008 17:39:40 GMT 1, yeah I will check it out, on my way to the show.
yeah I will check it out, on my way to the show.
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v for vandal, by alsbabar on Apr 17, 2008 17:41:43 GMT 1, me too - want to meet for a beer?
me too - want to meet for a beer?
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v for vandal, by DYL4N on Apr 17, 2008 17:42:10 GMT 1, As i said on another thread, excuse my double posting ;D
Not sure if this makes me a flipper but my son has just arrived home from school, and i showed him the Vandal Air print on the computer he loves it, hes big into planes. I got the earlier release V is for Vandal. PM me if anyone would rather have this one instead of their Vandal Air.
Does that me me a flipper? Or just a good dad?
As i said on another thread, excuse my double posting ;D Not sure if this makes me a flipper but my son has just arrived home from school, and i showed him the Vandal Air print on the computer he loves it, hes big into planes. I got the earlier release V is for Vandal. PM me if anyone would rather have this one instead of their Vandal Air. Does that me me a flipper? Or just a good dad? |
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v for vandal, by spirit on Apr 17, 2008 17:44:36 GMT 1, My Two pence worth! I agree with Lampsy --- Bellman you are a complete bell end! I have been queing at BRP and was lucky enough not only to get my hands on the haly grail of 75 but also the V for vands.... I was totally gonna flip the second soon as i got it cause i wanna fund for another purchase that i have been after for a while. How the f**k do you know why the seller is selling?? So f**king what if people do this??!! At the end of the day people need more dedication to obtaining prints and if it means you sit infront of your pC like t**t then you should do it. I think you have nothing against this guy at all its just a matter of sour grapes. Get a better pc and connection and while you at it get a f**king life!!
So all the flippers are agreed that flippers shouldn't be outed then...
My Two pence worth! I agree with Lampsy --- Bellman you are a complete bell end! I have been queing at BRP and was lucky enough not only to get my hands on the haly grail of 75 but also the V for vands.... I was totally gonna flip the second soon as i got it cause i wanna fund for another purchase that i have been after for a while. How the f**k do you know why the seller is selling?? So f**king what if people do this??!! At the end of the day people need more dedication to obtaining prints and if it means you sit infront of your pC like t**t then you should do it. I think you have nothing against this guy at all its just a matter of sour grapes. Get a better pc and connection and while you at it get a f**king life!! So all the flippers are agreed that flippers shouldn't be outed then... |
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v for vandal, by alsbabar on Apr 17, 2008 17:47:06 GMT 1, flippers/art dealers/opportunist/entrepreneurs/wankers/bellends - you can call them what you like, but it if was for the flippers, banksy and others wouldnt be worth what they are now - plus if you buy to sell to in turn buy another piece that is beyond your normal cash level - then who are we to judge?
flippers/art dealers/opportunist/entrepreneurs/wankers/bellends - you can call them what you like, but it if was for the flippers, banksy and others wouldnt be worth what they are now - plus if you buy to sell to in turn buy another piece that is beyond your normal cash level - then who are we to judge?
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v for vandal, by Guest on Apr 17, 2008 17:50:19 GMT 1, me too - want to meet for a beer?
Im just waiting for my lady to get home, before i make a move down there. would be nice to have a beer, i will see you there 
me too - want to meet for a beer? Im just waiting for my lady to get home, before i make a move down there. would be nice to have a beer, i will see you there |
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v for vandal, by alsbabar on Apr 17, 2008 17:51:16 GMT 1, PM'd you (twice)
PM'd you (twice)
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v for vandal, by Guest on Apr 17, 2008 17:52:16 GMT 1, pm back at yer
pm back at yer
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v for vandal, by spirit on Apr 17, 2008 17:58:27 GMT 1, flippers/art dealers/opportunist/entrepreneurs/wankers/bellends - you can call them what you like, but it if was for the flippers, banksy and others wouldnt be worth what they are now - plus if you buy to sell to in turn buy another piece that is beyond your normal cash level - then who are we to judge?
I would prefer it if Banksy's weren't worth what they are now because then I would be able to afford more of them. Flippers make the price of prints go up which may be good for investors but it is not good for art lovers who want to put them on the wall. By flipping a print in this way you are preventing someone who wanted to actually keep it from getting it at a reasonable price. In other words you are shafting the people that truly love the art.
In my book flipping a print within hours/minutes/ of buying it is pure profiteering and while it happens and it's not illegal that doesn't make it OK. Flippers can go about their business but they should be aware that it is not risk free and just as you shaft others you will get shafted yourself.
Who are we to Judge? We are the people that actually care more about the art than the money.
flippers/art dealers/opportunist/entrepreneurs/wankers/bellends - you can call them what you like, but it if was for the flippers, banksy and others wouldnt be worth what they are now - plus if you buy to sell to in turn buy another piece that is beyond your normal cash level - then who are we to judge? I would prefer it if Banksy's weren't worth what they are now because then I would be able to afford more of them. Flippers make the price of prints go up which may be good for investors but it is not good for art lovers who want to put them on the wall. By flipping a print in this way you are preventing someone who wanted to actually keep it from getting it at a reasonable price. In other words you are shafting the people that truly love the art. In my book flipping a print within hours/minutes/ of buying it is pure profiteering and while it happens and it's not illegal that doesn't make it OK. Flippers can go about their business but they should be aware that it is not risk free and just as you shaft others you will get shafted yourself. Who are we to Judge? We are the people that actually care more about the art than the money. |
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v for vandal, by lover on Apr 17, 2008 18:08:25 GMT 1, Just picked up my Dale Grimshaw Echos. Amazing print from an amazing artist imo. Took a stroll from Signal and was madness. Looked more like Glasto than a gallery opening.......
Just picked up my Dale Grimshaw Echos. Amazing print from an amazing artist imo. Took a stroll from Signal and was madness. Looked more like Glasto than a gallery opening.......
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v for vandal, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2008 18:10:21 GMT 1, can i point out a different theory on collecting high value prints? While most of us buy because we first and foremost like the images, isn't a factor that drives crazy demand the fact that they're worth more than what we paid for them? I think the influence of this factor varies from person to person, but, isn't knowing that something you bought that originally costs $50 is now worth $2k part of the allure as well? Especially as you can "trade in" that bit of paper for a mortgage payment, down payment for a house, and even original...
can i point out a different theory on collecting high value prints? While most of us buy because we first and foremost like the images, isn't a factor that drives crazy demand the fact that they're worth more than what we paid for them? I think the influence of this factor varies from person to person, but, isn't knowing that something you bought that originally costs $50 is now worth $2k part of the allure as well? Especially as you can "trade in" that bit of paper for a mortgage payment, down payment for a house, and even original...
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