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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by andrewd on May 15, 2008 20:20:07 GMT 1, This is all a bit pre historic reminiscent of the Home Internationals that were stopped because of the way some Scottish fans behaved when they came to Wembley and sat on the crossbar.
There are byelaws in Manchester prohibit the drinking of alcohol in public places. Apparently the police decided that they weren't worth trying to enforce yesterday.
Hope that all of the dickheads caught on CCTV are dealt with as this type of thing does football absolutley no good at all
This is all a bit pre historic reminiscent of the Home Internationals that were stopped because of the way some Scottish fans behaved when they came to Wembley and sat on the crossbar.
There are byelaws in Manchester prohibit the drinking of alcohol in public places. Apparently the police decided that they weren't worth trying to enforce yesterday.
Hope that all of the dickheads caught on CCTV are dealt with as this type of thing does football absolutley no good at all
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by felix on May 15, 2008 20:23:20 GMT 1, Hope that all of the d**kheads caught on CCTV are dealt with as this type of thing does football absolutley no good at all
I agree - the good thing about CCTV, I sometimes don't understand the negativity it gets when it helps to stop murder, rape etc
Hope that all of the d**kheads caught on CCTV are dealt with as this type of thing does football absolutley no good at all I agree - the good thing about CCTV, I sometimes don't understand the negativity it gets when it helps to stop murder, rape etc |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by felix on May 15, 2008 20:24:02 GMT 1, Maybe that post was a bit heavy 
Maybe that post was a bit heavy |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by Lord Lucas Roham on May 15, 2008 20:31:20 GMT 1, Rangers shamed Scotland last night, all the good work the Tartan Army has done for Scotlands reputation over the years has been undone.
What has made it worse was the lack of Saltires, you could count them on one hand.
And no, I am not a Celtic supporter.
Rangers shamed Scotland last night, all the good work the Tartan Army has done for Scotlands reputation over the years has been undone.
What has made it worse was the lack of Saltires, you could count them on one hand.
And no, I am not a Celtic supporter.
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by guest2 on May 15, 2008 20:32:38 GMT 1, you should cum to stoke on a match day absolute mayhem
Where is Stoke?
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by freemans on May 15, 2008 20:40:49 GMT 1, stoke on trent the midlands
stoke on trent the midlands
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by cas on May 15, 2008 20:53:41 GMT 1, I live in the northern quarter about 2 minutes walk from picadilly gardens where the screen failed. Everything looked a bit fucked up last night and this morning. Looks OK now though.
I live in the northern quarter about 2 minutes walk from picadilly gardens where the screen failed. Everything looked a bit fucked up last night and this morning. Looks OK now though.
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by andrewd on May 15, 2008 21:19:09 GMT 1, you should cum to stoke on a match day absolute mayhem Where is Stoke?
Stoke are a premiership team for the first time ever!!
you should cum to stoke on a match day absolute mayhem Where is Stoke? Stoke are a premiership team for the first time ever!! |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by guest2 on May 15, 2008 21:23:10 GMT 1, Stoke are a premiership team for the first time ever!!
Great, look forward to coming to Stoke when Arsenal win there 
Stoke are a premiership team for the first time ever!! Great, look forward to coming to Stoke when Arsenal win there |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by bobbyt23 on May 15, 2008 21:24:49 GMT 1, Stoke are a premiership team for the first time ever!! Great, look forward to coming to Stoke when Arsenal win there
HaHa I thought you were messing when you asked where Stoke was......
Stoke are a premiership team for the first time ever!! Great, look forward to coming to Stoke when Arsenal win there HaHa I thought you were messing when you asked where Stoke was...... |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by guest2 on May 15, 2008 21:33:36 GMT 1, Great, look forward to coming to Stoke when Arsenal win there HaHa I thought you were messing when you asked where Stoke was......
I'd heard of it before. It's near South London isn't it?
Great, look forward to coming to Stoke when Arsenal win there HaHa I thought you were messing when you asked where Stoke was...... I'd heard of it before. It's near South London isn't it? |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by shaunyboy on May 15, 2008 21:34:11 GMT 1, Hope that all of the d**kheads caught on CCTV are dealt with as this type of thing does football absolutley no good at all I agree - the good thing about CCTV, I sometimes don't understand the negativity it gets when it helps to stop murder, rape etc
Hi Felix,
I don't think CCTV helps stop murders, rape, football hooliganism or anything else. Manchester is covered in CCTV but obviously didn't stop the trouble last night. This is one reason I believe the millions and millions of pounds spent of CCTV could be spent much better elsewhere.
However, in a very small amount of cases where the CCTV is good enough and the police have enough interest and resource then the offenders may be identified and tried with the help of the CCTV.
Hope that all of the d**kheads caught on CCTV are dealt with as this type of thing does football absolutley no good at all I agree - the good thing about CCTV, I sometimes don't understand the negativity it gets when it helps to stop murder, rape etc Hi Felix, I don't think CCTV helps stop murders, rape, football hooliganism or anything else. Manchester is covered in CCTV but obviously didn't stop the trouble last night. This is one reason I believe the millions and millions of pounds spent of CCTV could be spent much better elsewhere. However, in a very small amount of cases where the CCTV is good enough and the police have enough interest and resource then the offenders may be identified and tried with the help of the CCTV. |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by freemans on May 15, 2008 21:37:28 GMT 1, we will see frankie lets hope gallas and co dont bottle it
we will see frankie lets hope gallas and co dont bottle it
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by bobbyt23 on May 15, 2008 21:45:55 GMT 1, HaHa I thought you were messing when you asked where Stoke was...... I'd heard of it before. It's near South London isn't it?
There's a South London. 
I thought it was just one main street with a few shops on?
HaHa I thought you were messing when you asked where Stoke was...... I'd heard of it before. It's near South London isn't it? There's a South London. I thought it was just one main street with a few shops on? |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by shaunyboy on May 15, 2008 21:53:35 GMT 1, its not the best, but there was a sequence of events leading up2 this police went in heavy handed with riot gear earlier in the night combined with a lot of drink, not being able to see the game, poor organisation, and the misjudgement of the numbers of rangers fans arriving, it was a recipy for disaster
That's very interesting Graeme about the sequence of events that are not on the CCTV or not on the clip on the BBC.
It reminds me of the famous miners charging the police clip the BBC used in the 84-85 strike which was in fact the exact opposite, the police had waded in to the miners, indiscriminately attacking anyone, before the footage was used and so when the miners defended themselves the impression on TV was given that the miners were the aggressors.
We should always be wary of CCTV pictures released by the police or the media and should demand the whole context of such pictures. Were the Rangers fans the victims of a police charge? We need to see so we can put the situation into more of a context.
Being a veteran of peace marches and demonstrations it is a sad case that I have seen the thugs in uniform in action on a number of occasions and the sight of women and children being batoned in the head is not one I will forget. Ever.
Violence should be condemned whoever did it.
its not the best, but there was a sequence of events leading up2 this police went in heavy handed with riot gear earlier in the night combined with a lot of drink, not being able to see the game, poor organisation, and the misjudgement of the numbers of rangers fans arriving, it was a recipy for disaster That's very interesting Graeme about the sequence of events that are not on the CCTV or not on the clip on the BBC. It reminds me of the famous miners charging the police clip the BBC used in the 84-85 strike which was in fact the exact opposite, the police had waded in to the miners, indiscriminately attacking anyone, before the footage was used and so when the miners defended themselves the impression on TV was given that the miners were the aggressors. We should always be wary of CCTV pictures released by the police or the media and should demand the whole context of such pictures. Were the Rangers fans the victims of a police charge? We need to see so we can put the situation into more of a context. Being a veteran of peace marches and demonstrations it is a sad case that I have seen the thugs in uniform in action on a number of occasions and the sight of women and children being batoned in the head is not one I will forget. Ever. Violence should be condemned whoever did it. |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by guest2 on May 15, 2008 22:11:49 GMT 1, I'd heard of it before. It's near South London isn't it? There's a South London. I thought it was just one main street with a few shops on?
So the rumour has it. Ask that guy in Stoke, he'll know.
I'd heard of it before. It's near South London isn't it? There's a South London. I thought it was just one main street with a few shops on? So the rumour has it. Ask that guy in Stoke, he'll know. |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by freemans on May 15, 2008 22:12:21 GMT 1, the police always mk things worse
the police always mk things worse
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by mfceio on May 15, 2008 23:02:22 GMT 1, Before every one gets dewy eyed over the poor police in Manchester just let me say that as a follower of a certain team whose reputation preceeds them that Manchester police lash out and batton anyone - regardless. Women/children and even a man on crutches last night.
Before every one gets dewy eyed over the poor police in Manchester just let me say that as a follower of a certain team whose reputation preceeds them that Manchester police lash out and batton anyone - regardless. Women/children and even a man on crutches last night.
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by low3 on May 15, 2008 23:43:45 GMT 1, Damn right arcam They're now not showing next Wednesday's match in Manchester 
No big deal, most manure fans could'nt find their way to manchester if their lives depended on it, with a map AND a sat-nav. ;D ;D
At least it means all the normal people in manchester can go out next wednesday without fear of being labelled a glory-hunring utd fan.......... Thank you Rangers fans!!!!
Damn right arcam They're now not showing next Wednesday's match in Manchester No big deal, most manure fans could'nt find their way to manchester if their lives depended on it, with a map AND a sat-nav. ;D ;D At least it means all the normal people in manchester can go out next wednesday without fear of being labelled a glory-hunring utd fan.......... Thank you Rangers fans!!!! |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by graeme501 on May 15, 2008 23:46:58 GMT 1, manchester utd fans live in manchester ? 
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by low3 on May 15, 2008 23:51:24 GMT 1, On a more serious note though, i think you can apportion a large slice of the blame at the feet of manchester council. There was no way on god's earth that there would be no rangers fans coming all this way and there being no trouble. Clearly the best thing would've been to either show the game at one of the edges of town, away from the centre, or to have more than three big screens set up so the fans would have been split into smaller groups. They reckon there were around fifty thousand fans in piccadilly gardens (looking at the mess the left, i'd say that might be on the conservative side).
How could that possibly go smoothly when most had been drinking all day??
Don't get me wrong though, the Gers fans were still well out of order, but it was a tiny minority.
On a more serious note though, i think you can apportion a large slice of the blame at the feet of manchester council. There was no way on god's earth that there would be no rangers fans coming all this way and there being no trouble. Clearly the best thing would've been to either show the game at one of the edges of town, away from the centre, or to have more than three big screens set up so the fans would have been split into smaller groups. They reckon there were around fifty thousand fans in piccadilly gardens (looking at the mess the left, i'd say that might be on the conservative side).
How could that possibly go smoothly when most had been drinking all day??
Don't get me wrong though, the Gers fans were still well out of order, but it was a tiny minority.
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by Deleted on May 15, 2008 23:55:39 GMT 1, Celtic fans woud never do this. No class.
Celtic fans woud never do this. No class.
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by graeme501 on May 16, 2008 0:03:31 GMT 1, the main problem was manchester council and police saying they were going to take a relaxed policing effort
this basically gave a green light for every hooligan, rangers fans and others, to come down for a fight, personally, i would have prefered, a tight police force with fan zones outside the city center, on the outskirts, with licenced bars
this does not excuse the behavior of a MINORITY of fans, please remember there was 175,000 fans there with the main purpose to enjoy the match
re the saltire, we are a scottish club, but also a british club, our colours are blue, red and white, as is the union jack, i see no problem flying the uj, i am also a massive scotland fan, come to ibrox, there are plenty of scottish flags at the match
the main problem was manchester council and police saying they were going to take a relaxed policing effort
this basically gave a green light for every hooligan, rangers fans and others, to come down for a fight, personally, i would have prefered, a tight police force with fan zones outside the city center, on the outskirts, with licenced bars
this does not excuse the behavior of a MINORITY of fans, please remember there was 175,000 fans there with the main purpose to enjoy the match
re the saltire, we are a scottish club, but also a british club, our colours are blue, red and white, as is the union jack, i see no problem flying the uj, i am also a massive scotland fan, come to ibrox, there are plenty of scottish flags at the match
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by low3 on May 16, 2008 0:03:35 GMT 1, manchester utd fans live in manchester ?
You get the odd one.  
You can tell when they're playing at home cos if you go out in manchester, all you can here is irish, cockney, chinese and lots of other non-mancunian accents.
and you can't get a hotel room in the city for love nor money!!
manchester utd fans live in manchester ? You get the odd one. You can tell when they're playing at home cos if you go out in manchester, all you can here is irish, cockney, chinese and lots of other non-mancunian accents. and you can't get a hotel room in the city for love nor money!! |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by owenmcg17 on May 16, 2008 0:05:41 GMT 1, Embarrassment to Scotland - Sub-human scum
Embarrassment to Scotland - Sub-human scum
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by graeme501 on May 16, 2008 0:14:23 GMT 1, Embarrassment to Scotland - Sub-human scum
ur rent has increased by ยฃ200 ;D
Embarrassment to Scotland - Sub-human scum ur rent has increased by ยฃ200 ;D |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by shaunyboy on May 16, 2008 0:20:31 GMT 1, manchester utd fans live in manchester ?
Don't see why not. United played in Manchester and got their name in Manchester.
Makes sense for a few of the fans to still be in Manchester
Indeed, in 2003 it was nice to see City start playing less than 200 yards from United's old ground.
Its a funny old game 
manchester utd fans live in manchester ? Don't see why not. United played in Manchester and got their name in Manchester. Makes sense for a few of the fans to still be in Manchester Indeed, in 2003 it was nice to see City start playing less than 200 yards from United's old ground. Its a funny old game |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by seidbereit on May 16, 2008 0:28:28 GMT 1, manchester utd fans live in manchester ? Don't see why not. United played in Manchester and got their name in Manchester. Makes sense for a few of the fans to still be in Manchester
Hmmm... not Manchester but Trafford actually, but let's not split hairs eh?
manchester utd fans live in manchester ? Don't see why not. United played in Manchester and got their name in Manchester. Makes sense for a few of the fans to still be in Manchester Hmmm... not Manchester but Trafford actually, but let's not split hairs eh? |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by graeme501 on May 16, 2008 0:31:40 GMT 1, anyway the point of this thread was to let people know that not all rangers fans are like the 'fans' that appeared on the news tonight, that was the very small minority
yes maybe rangers fans like a drink and a party, but the violence shown towards the police has been condemmed by every true rangers fan
im sure many of u support england, so u will have dealt with this negativity with hooliganism before, so please dont judge my club by the stupid actions of some people, judge it by our borning, ultra defensive, negative football
anyway the point of this thread was to let people know that not all rangers fans are like the 'fans' that appeared on the news tonight, that was the very small minority yes maybe rangers fans like a drink and a party, but the violence shown towards the police has been condemmed by every true rangers fan im sure many of u support england, so u will have dealt with this negativity with hooliganism before, so please dont judge my club by the stupid actions of some people, judge it by our borning, ultra defensive, negative football |
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Glasgow Rangers In Manchester, by low3 on May 16, 2008 0:37:57 GMT 1, fair play to Walter Smith though, it very nearly worked..
If darcheville had bagged his first chance, it could've been a very different outcome.
Just thought I'd share this bit out of the Manchester Evening News when describing the carnage left in Piccadilly Gardens this morning:
"mounds of rubbish as far as the eye can see................ the strong stench of urine, stale beer and vomit"
sounds like your boys left the place as they found it ;D
fair play to Walter Smith though, it very nearly worked..
If darcheville had bagged his first chance, it could've been a very different outcome.
Just thought I'd share this bit out of the Manchester Evening News when describing the carnage left in Piccadilly Gardens this morning:
"mounds of rubbish as far as the eye can see................ the strong stench of urine, stale beer and vomit"
sounds like your boys left the place as they found it ;D
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