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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by spirit on Dec 22, 2009 16:22:14 GMT 1, wow there not happy, gonna go and take another look before i leave work today, doesnt seem it will last long, What this about Robbo giving Banksy a smack again>>? Is there history?
If you see a bunch of angry looking dudes down there with paint balloons and super soakers remember to say "Banksy? I think he's a cunt!" and definitely not "omg isn't Banksy brilliant"
wow there not happy, gonna go and take another look before i leave work today, doesnt seem it will last long, What this about Robbo giving Banksy a smack again>>? Is there history? If you see a bunch of angry looking dudes down there with paint balloons and super soakers remember to say "Banksy? I think he's a cunt!" and definitely not "omg isn't Banksy brilliant"
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by Deleted on Dec 22, 2009 16:26:50 GMT 1, i should set up a stall in camden market selling Bamksy is a c**t t-shirts. Id get a roaring trade with all these jumped up ruffians!
i should set up a stall in camden market selling Bamksy is a c**t t-shirts. Id get a roaring trade with all these jumped up ruffians!
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by Deleted on Dec 22, 2009 16:28:18 GMT 1, lol, id get a slap for my spelling!
lol, id get a slap for my spelling!
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by digitalkid on Dec 22, 2009 16:35:11 GMT 1, Banksy wouldn't have done this without knowing the repercussions. Maybe this 'slap again' has something to do with it?
Banksy wouldn't have done this without knowing the repercussions. Maybe this 'slap again' has something to do with it?
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by Deleted on Dec 22, 2009 17:14:21 GMT 1, A book i need to read! Cheers.
A book i need to read! Cheers.
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by grantb on Dec 22, 2009 17:32:15 GMT 1, i just thought the piece got buffed and banksy put it back up (with his own).
what is the image trying to suggest then ?
i just thought the piece got buffed and banksy put it back up (with his own).
what is the image trying to suggest then ?
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by gozgoz on Dec 22, 2009 17:40:41 GMT 1, how in the world do peopel like Robbo get so much street cred anyway? Its the ugliest pile of childish scrawl ive ever seen.
how in the world do peopel like Robbo get so much street cred anyway? Its the ugliest pile of childish scrawl ive ever seen.
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by digitalkid on Dec 22, 2009 17:43:00 GMT 1, A lot more than i first thought!!
A lot more than i first thought!!
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by Daniel Silk on Dec 22, 2009 17:59:33 GMT 1, Silky can you please ban stillborncrisps avatar, anytime he comments it slows up the page he has commented on!!! Not sure if this is related or not?! but the forum has been running like an old dog for me over the past two days..
Just ran a speed test and the whole net seems a bit low at the moment extra Christmas traffic?
Silky can you please ban stillborncrisps avatar, anytime he comments it slows up the page he has commented on!!! Not sure if this is related or not?! but the forum has been running like an old dog for me over the past two days.. Just ran a speed test and the whole net seems a bit low at the moment extra Christmas traffic?
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by spirit on Dec 22, 2009 18:10:44 GMT 1, Here's the extract: 'i was out one night with aload of old writers and got introduced to banksy. he asked what i wrote and i told him, he cockily replied ''never heard of you'' so i slapped him and said, ''you may not of heard of me but you will never forget me''. i thought he was very rude and disrespectful so i let him know. if it wasnt for people like me who started graffiti in london he would not be earning all the money he does now days' - ROBBO
It's sad how a lot of these writers like to hate Banksy for being different but at the same time feel like he owes them something - they are clearly jealous of his success. I have no doubt that Banksy would be doing his thing now had Robbo never existed...Blek might be able to say that - but not Robbo.
Here's the extract: 'i was out one night with aload of old writers and got introduced to banksy. he asked what i wrote and i told him, he cockily replied ''never heard of you'' so i slapped him and said, ''you may not of heard of me but you will never forget me''. i thought he was very rude and disrespectful so i let him know. if it wasnt for people like me who started graffiti in london he would not be earning all the money he does now days' - ROBBO It's sad how a lot of these writers like to hate Banksy for being different but at the same time feel like he owes them something - they are clearly jealous of his success. I have no doubt that Banksy would be doing his thing now had Robbo never existed...Blek might be able to say that - but not Robbo.
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by Deleted on Dec 22, 2009 18:18:52 GMT 1, Comments view profile dooglatti Pro User says:
Destroyed at the hands of a cunt. Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile 12stellas n 20 benson n a kebab.... Pro User says:
fuck BANSKY...fuck BANSKY....robbo true king .they shoulda perspexed this... Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile PAC1972 says:
Wanksky. Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile 1 9 8 8 says:
Love it ! Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile the strength of street knowledge says:
that cunt wants locking up for that... disrespecting the history of london. Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile thenitygrity Pro User says:
if graf was the mafia there'd be a contract out on this cnuts head. Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile frankwhite Pro User says:
indeed..... where is this ? Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile AZHQ NES MVP says:
Banksy is wack! Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile CraneDPC Pro User says:
Something else caught my eye mate, check the note, thats J Canton! Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile Citrus Topnote, Jr. Pro User says:
Wow! Good spot mate! Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile NOATE 1 ...DPC says:
Tron in da house....quality j . Should have well been left alone ..... Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile ''BAPSTA'' says:
thats the state of the game. all respect has gone. Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile CRUEL103 AMPsychos NOTTM-MANC Pro User says:
fucking crying shame ....that shows his mind set ...he has no respect for a true LDN old skool KING ........ fuck that batty boy .... fuckin great picture man. Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile kem from KeMeF iNc. yoh says:
bang out of order..art school middle class t**t Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile DOZE WRH says:
Thanks for putting this up Mr.Merc and thank you to everyone for their kind comments about my brother Robbo.
Mr.Doze WRH..............still. Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile divadfase says:
for an original piece of uk graff to survive this long is a miracle (especially in london) but that it should be destroyed is a fackin crime, it should be under perspex as stuff like this will never (could never) be recreated. Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile CRUEL103 AMPsychos NOTTM-MANC Pro User says:
well said Diva........ people need to take a step back from the bull shit an pay respect were its due ..... Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile Gustavo Visconti says:
If its in the street, its in the street. Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile ------------>> says:
Beautiful Bop from a BaD BoyEEE. Shouts Loudly -- !
ItZ like RATM Vs Joe McFuKingXfactor ...
Banksy -a PoP idol of those whO gobble what is fed to them -& put under their nose .. Plain stupid. Contrived. Oh sO Very much -A sign of the times.
The Guardian writes-- "In one, he pictures a workman seeming to wallpaper over a patch of colourful graffiti and replace it with an expanse of grey."
'Seeming'?
Now lets see him do something anti-audience. Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile Solo One VOP says:
Robbo is legend minus a PR company. Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile Mathieu Connery Pro User says:
if you have to give to the streets, you shouldnt complain, dont blame banksy for destroying stuff you like.. Posted 79 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile ------------>> says:
^Weetabix overdose? Posted 64 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile bitterz says:
trust an art-fag!!!! c**t(yes you connery)! Posted 64 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile SIN Cru England Pro User says:
...that is a dope piece too!!!!...nuf respect to Robbo & the whole WD/WRH massive! ko Posted 52 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile Mathieu Connery Pro User says:
what can i say, i usually love when people use other people work rather than simply dissing it.. Posted 41 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile Hethb Pro User says:
Taken in August 2009.. by Hethb
& 2003... 2003 by Hethb
2003 by Hethb
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In the world of graffiti you don't use other people's work as part of your own unless you're friends with them and you agree beforehand. Regardless of the condition of the Robbo, it should have been left alone. Someone who's been around as long as Banksy should know the drill by now. Even more so a street artist going over a writer. That sort of shit is asking for trouble.
Watch the outcry when this "piece" of his gets wrecked. Posted 8 minutes ago. ( permalink )
Comments view profile dooglatti Pro User says: Destroyed at the hands of a cunt. Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile 12stellas n 20 benson n a kebab.... Pro User says: fuck BANSKY...fuck BANSKY....robbo true king .they shoulda perspexed this... Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile PAC1972 says: Wanksky. Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile 1 9 8 8 says: Love it ! Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile the strength of street knowledge says: that cunt wants locking up for that... disrespecting the history of london. Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile thenitygrity Pro User says: if graf was the mafia there'd be a contract out on this cnuts head. Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile frankwhite Pro User says: indeed..... where is this ? Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile AZHQ NES MVP says: Banksy is wack! Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile CraneDPC Pro User says: Something else caught my eye mate, check the note, thats J Canton! Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile Citrus Topnote, Jr. Pro User says: Wow! Good spot mate! Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile NOATE 1 ...DPC says: Tron in da house....quality j . Should have well been left alone ..... Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile ''BAPSTA'' says: thats the state of the game. all respect has gone. Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile CRUEL103 AMPsychos NOTTM-MANC Pro User says: fucking crying shame ....that shows his mind set ...he has no respect for a true LDN old skool KING ........ fuck that batty boy .... fuckin great picture man. Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile kem from KeMeF iNc. yoh says: bang out of order..art school middle class t**t Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile DOZE WRH says: Thanks for putting this up Mr.Merc and thank you to everyone for their kind comments about my brother Robbo. Mr.Doze WRH..............still. Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile divadfase says: for an original piece of uk graff to survive this long is a miracle (especially in london) but that it should be destroyed is a fackin crime, it should be under perspex as stuff like this will never (could never) be recreated. Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile CRUEL103 AMPsychos NOTTM-MANC Pro User says: well said Diva........ people need to take a step back from the bull shit an pay respect were its due ..... Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile Gustavo Visconti says: If its in the street, its in the street. Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile ------------>> says: Beautiful Bop from a BaD BoyEEE. Shouts Loudly -- ! ItZ like RATM Vs Joe McFuKingXfactor ... Banksy -a PoP idol of those whO gobble what is fed to them -& put under their nose .. Plain stupid. Contrived. Oh sO Very much -A sign of the times. The Guardian writes-- "In one, he pictures a workman seeming to wallpaper over a patch of colourful graffiti and replace it with an expanse of grey." 'Seeming'? Now lets see him do something anti-audience. Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile Solo One VOP says: Robbo is legend minus a PR company. Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink ) view profile Mathieu Connery Pro User says: if you have to give to the streets, you shouldnt complain, dont blame banksy for destroying stuff you like.. Posted 79 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile ------------>> says: ^Weetabix overdose? Posted 64 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile bitterz says: trust an art-fag!!!! c**t(yes you connery)! Posted 64 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile SIN Cru England Pro User says: ...that is a dope piece too!!!!...nuf respect to Robbo & the whole WD/WRH massive! ko Posted 52 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile Mathieu Connery Pro User says: what can i say, i usually love when people use other people work rather than simply dissing it.. Posted 41 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile Hethb Pro User says: Taken in August 2009.. by Hethb & 2003... 2003 by Hethb 2003 by Hethb Posted 36 minutes ago. ( permalink ) view profile Citrus Topnote, Jr. Pro User says: In the world of graffiti you don't use other people's work as part of your own unless you're friends with them and you agree beforehand. Regardless of the condition of the Robbo, it should have been left alone. Someone who's been around as long as Banksy should know the drill by now. Even more so a street artist going over a writer. That sort of shit is asking for trouble. Watch the outcry when this "piece" of his gets wrecked. Posted 8 minutes ago. ( permalink )
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by sixftjellybaby on Dec 22, 2009 18:37:34 GMT 1, it is playing into the hands if a t**t like 10 foot though,
it is playing into the hands if a t**t like 10 foot though,
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by kissysusuki on Dec 22, 2009 19:03:17 GMT 1, So Dhelix... Does this mean you knew of there whereabouts of the location for this piece, before it was done. Are you 'in'?
before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, all Doublehelix is doing is copying images from other peoples flickr accounts.
So Dhelix... Does this mean you knew of there whereabouts of the location for this piece, before it was done. Are you 'in'? before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, all Doublehelix is doing is copying images from other peoples flickr accounts.
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by kissysusuki on Dec 22, 2009 19:16:48 GMT 1, I'm just sharing info, do you have a prob with that kissysusuki, shall I just keep quite?
keep sharing, spread the love, but twice now, you have taken photos from peoples flickr accounts and you haven't put links up to either - just think it would cool if you would let others know where you are finding these photos and not just let them believe these photos belong to you
I'm just sharing info, do you have a prob with that kissysusuki, shall I just keep quite? keep sharing, spread the love, but twice now, you have taken photos from peoples flickr accounts and you haven't put links up to either - just think it would cool if you would let others know where you are finding these photos and not just let them believe these photos belong to you
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by Guest on Dec 22, 2009 20:10:46 GMT 1, after seeing this pic of the wall taken recently, which shows the wall tagged and the piece pretty well ruined, i think banksy has done robbo a favour.
after seeing this pic of the wall taken recently, which shows the wall tagged and the piece pretty well ruined, i think banksy has done robbo a favour.
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by gozgoz on Dec 22, 2009 20:19:02 GMT 1, thats really put it into context. geez. i wish all the kid haters will just chill out.
thats really put it into context. geez. i wish all the kid haters will just chill out.
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by mrease on Dec 22, 2009 21:40:03 GMT 1, you can taste the jealousy in the air !
I think this is genius , Banksy has basically framed an old, dogged, cross out piece and elevated to a previously inconceivable status. l
you can taste the jealousy in the air !
I think this is genius , Banksy has basically framed an old, dogged, cross out piece and elevated to a previously inconceivable status. l
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by digitalkid on Dec 22, 2009 21:41:06 GMT 1, I'm just sharing info, do you have a prob with that kissysusuki, shall I just keep quite? keep sharing, spread the love, but twice now, you have taken photos from peoples flickr accounts and you haven't put links up to either - just think it would cool if you would let others know where you are finding these photos and not just let them believe these photos belong to you
It's not hard to work out where the pics came from to be honest..
I'm just sharing info, do you have a prob with that kissysusuki, shall I just keep quite? keep sharing, spread the love, but twice now, you have taken photos from peoples flickr accounts and you haven't put links up to either - just think it would cool if you would let others know where you are finding these photos and not just let them believe these photos belong to you It's not hard to work out where the pics came from to be honest..
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by fuzzed on Dec 22, 2009 22:35:04 GMT 1, Looking at the pic posted by ronhill, it seems like Banksy has left most of the original that hadn't already been gone over?!
Looking at the pic posted by ronhill, it seems like Banksy has left most of the original that hadn't already been gone over?!
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by monkeyart on Dec 22, 2009 22:44:09 GMT 1, I agree, but if you want to pretend to be something your not then hay ho!! I did have an initial thought but didn't voice it... Mr B has done over someone else's work and thats a bit shit? By the way people react to MBW work and Cartrain for that..hate going anywhere near Mr B's work, then he overworks an old but seems well respected piece, how ever old, I'm not sure if he done this with respect after reading Robbo slapped him? Maybe a nod or maybe a slap reversal...who knows :-)
I agree, but if you want to pretend to be something your not then hay ho!! I did have an initial thought but didn't voice it... Mr B has done over someone else's work and thats a bit shit? By the way people react to MBW work and Cartrain for that..hate going anywhere near Mr B's work, then he overworks an old but seems well respected piece, how ever old, I'm not sure if he done this with respect after reading Robbo slapped him? Maybe a nod or maybe a slap reversal...who knows :-)
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by monkeyballs on Dec 22, 2009 23:23:59 GMT 1, If this Robbo slapped me about respect and I went on to completely make a mockery of his own self importance as Banksy has, I would do exactly the same thing. Degrading the poor sod (who clearly had tickets on his greatness) to be forever a piece of the guy you slapped's legacy! classic response.
If this Robbo slapped me about respect and I went on to completely make a mockery of his own self importance as Banksy has, I would do exactly the same thing. Degrading the poor sod (who clearly had tickets on his greatness) to be forever a piece of the guy you slapped's legacy! classic response.
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by monkeyart on Dec 22, 2009 23:30:48 GMT 1, MB I agree, but if you were, and I'm not an member of the old graf scene, if you did this piece of artwork which has lasted for over 25 years, by someone that was an original graf writer back in the 80's, and Mr B buffed it, not annoy you? Don't get get me wrong love Mr B but seen both sides on this one?
MB I agree, but if you were, and I'm not an member of the old graf scene, if you did this piece of artwork which has lasted for over 25 years, by someone that was an original graf writer back in the 80's, and Mr B buffed it, not annoy you? Don't get get me wrong love Mr B but seen both sides on this one?
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by monkeyballs on Dec 23, 2009 0:03:40 GMT 1, MB I agree, but if you were, and I'm not an member of the old graf scene, if you did this piece of artwork which has lasted for over 25 years, by someone that was an original graf writer back in the 80's, and Mr B buffed it, not annoy you? Don't get get me wrong love Mr B but seen both sides on this one?
The reasoning over going over someone is you take issue with them, if Robbo smacked me round the face, I'd have issue with him. Also he has remained semi respectful, the piece had long since been ruined by the pink throw up.
MB I agree, but if you were, and I'm not an member of the old graf scene, if you did this piece of artwork which has lasted for over 25 years, by someone that was an original graf writer back in the 80's, and Mr B buffed it, not annoy you? Don't get get me wrong love Mr B but seen both sides on this one? The reasoning over going over someone is you take issue with them, if Robbo smacked me round the face, I'd have issue with him. Also he has remained semi respectful, the piece had long since been ruined by the pink throw up.
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by monkeyart on Dec 23, 2009 0:11:08 GMT 1, Ok, take the slap out of the scene! Now back to art, what would you think of someone buffing your art to make there own, ok it was tagged but to be buffed by another artist? Like MBW did to Mr B and there was up roar! Not sure myself!, Mammal where are you! with a response :-)!!
Ok, take the slap out of the scene! Now back to art, what would you think of someone buffing your art to make there own, ok it was tagged but to be buffed by another artist? Like MBW did to Mr B and there was up roar! Not sure myself!, Mammal where are you! with a response :-)!!
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by Deleted on Dec 23, 2009 0:17:46 GMT 1, 25 years old and fucked down the canal. I have seen this film . it has given this piece a new lease of life. And it looks great too. What's the problem??
25 years old and fucked down the canal. I have seen this film . it has given this piece a new lease of life. And it looks great too. What's the problem??
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by monkeyart on Dec 23, 2009 0:26:28 GMT 1, Topboy.. I agree, but if your a fan off the old graf of which Robbo pieces were important! Then this is a no no? I don't know enough, but have followed the early days of Banksy to know he knows the importance of proper old school graf and respect it? Just surprised me! Thats all..
Topboy.. I agree, but if your a fan off the old graf of which Robbo pieces were important! Then this is a no no? I don't know enough, but have followed the early days of Banksy to know he knows the importance of proper old school graf and respect it? Just surprised me! Thats all..
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by stillborncrisps on Dec 23, 2009 0:28:53 GMT 1, It was looking pretty rough.
But I don't get why he's knowingly given every hater enough fuel to burn for years. It's not something he's ever really bothered with before, other than the (rumoured) NW pisstake at Leake St.
It was looking pretty rough. But I don't get why he's knowingly given every hater enough fuel to burn for years. It's not something he's ever really bothered with before, other than the (rumoured) NW pisstake at Leake St.
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by monkeyart on Dec 23, 2009 0:33:55 GMT 1, Nick Walker piss take? What was that? missed that!!!!
Nick Walker piss take? What was that? missed that!!!!
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by stenev on Dec 23, 2009 1:12:42 GMT 1, Great GIF of the progression.
Either B knew the piece and did it on purpose or he didn't know and was ignorant of the etiquette of going over someone else’s work. Either one would surprise me if there was no mention of them having prior run-ins.
My guess is it's either B being antagonistic in a way similar to how monkeyballs suggested. Or maybe the slap backstory is more fiction than anything and they are on better terms than we are led to believe? Any rivalry may be an ‘in joke’ and Robbo may have been asked before this new piece went up.
Then again he could have just thought it was well worth 'upgrading' the piece to something much improved!
Great GIF of the progression.
Either B knew the piece and did it on purpose or he didn't know and was ignorant of the etiquette of going over someone else’s work. Either one would surprise me if there was no mention of them having prior run-ins.
My guess is it's either B being antagonistic in a way similar to how monkeyballs suggested. Or maybe the slap backstory is more fiction than anything and they are on better terms than we are led to believe? Any rivalry may be an ‘in joke’ and Robbo may have been asked before this new piece went up.
Then again he could have just thought it was well worth 'upgrading' the piece to something much improved!
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NEW - Banksy's Regents Canal, London, by monkeyart on Dec 23, 2009 1:18:31 GMT 1, Ummm not sure the anger felt proper from the flickr peeps? Who knows but they will tag it for sure soon :- Sad as its a lovely piece!
Ummm not sure the anger felt proper from the flickr peeps? Who knows but they will tag it for sure soon :- Sad as its a lovely piece!
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