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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Deleted on Sept 10, 2008 18:34:29 GMT 1, Thank you Graeme501, something to read.
Thank you Graeme501, something to read.
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by graeme501 on Sept 10, 2008 18:36:32 GMT 1, i have two pieces in this auction (put in before the i knew about the street piece stuff), so im hoping its a good one
i have two pieces in this auction (put in before the i knew about the street piece stuff), so im hoping its a good one
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by bobbyt23 on Sept 10, 2008 18:46:41 GMT 1, how do people find out about there auctions to put pieces in?
how do people find out about there auctions to put pieces in?
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by princeofdalston on Sept 10, 2008 18:47:17 GMT 1, Thanks for the heads up - good luck with your stuff!
Not sure what to make of the 'vermin' stamp of approval
Thanks for the heads up - good luck with your stuff!
Not sure what to make of the 'vermin' stamp of approval
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by graeme501 on Sept 10, 2008 18:48:17 GMT 1, somebody mentioned it over at wk forum, i sent lyon and turnbull asking if they wanted these two prints, they said yes, i dropped them off at their place in glasgow, thats about it really
somebody mentioned it over at wk forum, i sent lyon and turnbull asking if they wanted these two prints, they said yes, i dropped them off at their place in glasgow, thats about it really
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by havana07 on Sept 10, 2008 18:50:03 GMT 1, Thanks for the heads up - good luck with your stuff! Not sure what to make of the 'vermin' stamp of approval
... Helps those who want to shift their 'street pieces' quickly before the shit hits the fan, I'd expect.....
Thanks for the heads up - good luck with your stuff! Not sure what to make of the 'vermin' stamp of approval ... Helps those who want to shift their 'street pieces' quickly before the shit hits the fan, I'd expect..... |
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Daniel Silk on Sept 10, 2008 18:52:57 GMT 1, Just to remind everyone, as was posted the other week -
Needless to say Vermin have nothing to do with PCO or Banksy.It seems inconceivable that you can just create your own authentication board that has no contact whatsoever with the LIVING artist.
PCO have spent the past 8 months building a data base and cataloging the artists' body of work. We hold the only existing records of commercial sale and have the only comprehensive library of photographs of each of his images dating back to inception.
We cross reference every piece that is sent through to us from every auction house, dealer and collector all over the world.
We show each piece that does not cross reference to the Artist who can tell instantly if a work is authentic or not.
We do not authenticate street pieces due to the fact that Banksy believes his street work should remain on the street for everyone to enjoy and that once it is removed from it's original situation then it is no longer a work of art.
In addition, it is well known that you can buy a large selection of Banksy stencils on ebay for ยฃ2.99. We have found that the majority of street pieces, especially ones on street furniture are in fact fakes.
Since we set up Pest Control 8 months ago we have come across 89 fake street pieces and have pulled 62 fake Banksy works from circulation along with 137 fake Banksy prints, these have all been determined by the Artist himself.
The majority of these pieces have been pulled from auction houses and reputable galleries where trained 'experts' are hired to consign such works.
It is absolutely ridiculous that a panel of unknown, so called "experts", can offer the same service that PCO do.
As always in the secondary market "Buyer Beware".
Just to remind everyone, as was posted the other week -
Needless to say Vermin have nothing to do with PCO or Banksy.It seems inconceivable that you can just create your own authentication board that has no contact whatsoever with the LIVING artist.
PCO have spent the past 8 months building a data base and cataloging the artists' body of work. We hold the only existing records of commercial sale and have the only comprehensive library of photographs of each of his images dating back to inception.
We cross reference every piece that is sent through to us from every auction house, dealer and collector all over the world.
We show each piece that does not cross reference to the Artist who can tell instantly if a work is authentic or not.
We do not authenticate street pieces due to the fact that Banksy believes his street work should remain on the street for everyone to enjoy and that once it is removed from it's original situation then it is no longer a work of art.
In addition, it is well known that you can buy a large selection of Banksy stencils on ebay for ยฃ2.99. We have found that the majority of street pieces, especially ones on street furniture are in fact fakes.
Since we set up Pest Control 8 months ago we have come across 89 fake street pieces and have pulled 62 fake Banksy works from circulation along with 137 fake Banksy prints, these have all been determined by the Artist himself.
The majority of these pieces have been pulled from auction houses and reputable galleries where trained 'experts' are hired to consign such works.
It is absolutely ridiculous that a panel of unknown, so called "experts", can offer the same service that PCO do.
As always in the secondary market "Buyer Beware".
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by graeme501 on Sept 10, 2008 18:53:09 GMT 1, the vermin is a bit of an odd one, as with most of the street pieces, they are well known, and would have been considered authentic anyway, appearing in books, owner of POW ect
the vermin is a bit of an odd one, as with most of the street pieces, they are well known, and would have been considered authentic anyway, appearing in books, owner of POW ect
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by alsbabar on Sept 10, 2008 18:53:55 GMT 1, cant believe they have prints in there which are un-numbered, so along with streetpieces that are not authenticated by pest control, they have prints also unauthenticated - i think this is an auction with the term "Buyer Beware" written all over it
cant believe they have prints in there which are un-numbered, so along with streetpieces that are not authenticated by pest control, they have prints also unauthenticated - i think this is an auction with the term "Buyer Beware" written all over it
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by graeme501 on Sept 10, 2008 18:54:59 GMT 1, Thanks for the heads up - good luck with your stuff! Not sure what to make of the 'vermin' stamp of approval
cheers for the luck, they are only in the sale to pay for something else which i am getting in a few months, so all the money has already gone (unless it goes for silly money)
Thanks for the heads up - good luck with your stuff! Not sure what to make of the 'vermin' stamp of approval cheers for the luck, they are only in the sale to pay for something else which i am getting in a few months, so all the money has already gone (unless it goes for silly money) |
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by graeme501 on Sept 10, 2008 18:56:21 GMT 1, 'We do not authenticate street pieces due to the fact that Banksy believes his street work should remain on the street for everyone to enjoy and that once it is removed from it's original situation then it is no longer a work of art'
interesting that banksy thinks this, while the guy who set up POW is quite happy to sell his street piece
'We do not authenticate street pieces due to the fact that Banksy believes his street work should remain on the street for everyone to enjoy and that once it is removed from it's original situation then it is no longer a work of art'
interesting that banksy thinks this, while the guy who set up POW is quite happy to sell his street piece
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by alsbabar on Sept 10, 2008 19:02:34 GMT 1, POW was about printmaking and selling prints - not about lifting street pieces and selling them on!!!!
POW was about printmaking and selling prints - not about lifting street pieces and selling them on!!!!
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by insite on Sept 10, 2008 19:48:31 GMT 1, 'We do not authenticate street pieces due to the fact that Banksy believes his street work should remain on the street for everyone to enjoy and that once it is removed from it's original situation then it is no longer a work of art'
Fair enough but what about privately owned "street" pieces, the big one that springs to mind would be that wall from the farm that was used for the Blur cover shoot but I know of a couple of people with a Banksy "street piece" sprayed onto the vehicle they live in, these were never there for everyone to enjoy and as they're on vehicles are always going to be in their original situation.
'We do not authenticate street pieces due to the fact that Banksy believes his street work should remain on the street for everyone to enjoy and that once it is removed from it's original situation then it is no longer a work of art'
Fair enough but what about privately owned "street" pieces, the big one that springs to mind would be that wall from the farm that was used for the Blur cover shoot but I know of a couple of people with a Banksy "street piece" sprayed onto the vehicle they live in, these were never there for everyone to enjoy and as they're on vehicles are always going to be in their original situation.
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by hitme on Sept 10, 2008 20:15:33 GMT 1, 2 Stop and Searches in this auction, and 2 different estimate ranges. These folks are on top of things.
2 Stop and Searches in this auction, and 2 different estimate ranges. These folks are on top of things.
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by mishco on Sept 10, 2008 20:18:03 GMT 1, but ones been professionally framed by mr framerman!
but ones been professionally framed by mr framerman!
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by hitme on Sept 10, 2008 20:34:03 GMT 1, but ones been professionally framed by mr framerman!
does it say that somewhere? or is it yours? if the latter, how did you frame it - matted or floated?
but ones been professionally framed by mr framerman! does it say that somewhere? or is it yours? if the latter, how did you frame it - matted or floated? |
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by graeme501 on Sept 10, 2008 20:35:20 GMT 1, its mine, float mounted on a black box frame
its mine, float mounted on a black box frame
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Prescription Art on Sept 10, 2008 22:13:38 GMT 1,
I'd never trust a drilling rat... it's been so easy to buy stencils off ebay. The photographer rat is quite cool though.
I'd never trust a drilling rat... it's been so easy to buy stencils off ebay. The photographer rat is quite cool though. |
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by dotdot on Sept 10, 2008 22:21:56 GMT 1, thanks for the jolt alb.
have had a scan and whilst there's prints a plenty - the prov is
all over the place...from pow ..to pest control to.. none - to aps
and "not from the limited run".
this kind of mess is only going to cause grief for the unaware.
caveat emptor...
thanks for the jolt alb.
have had a scan and whilst there's prints a plenty - the prov is
all over the place...from pow ..to pest control to.. none - to aps
and "not from the limited run".
this kind of mess is only going to cause grief for the unaware.
caveat emptor...
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Poppy Sunshine on Apr 21, 2009 14:47:17 GMT 1, I noticed some Banksy pieces are coming up this week with Lyon and Turnbull and all have Vermin authentication.
Perhaps someone can stick a link on if it's of interest as I don't know how to do it.
Is Vermin authentication official?
I noticed some Banksy pieces are coming up this week with Lyon and Turnbull and all have Vermin authentication.
Perhaps someone can stick a link on if it's of interest as I don't know how to do it.
Is Vermin authentication official?
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Guest on Apr 21, 2009 14:54:40 GMT 1, Link not working Silky
Link not working Silky
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Daniel Silk on Apr 21, 2009 14:58:17 GMT 1,
Sorry 
Here's the link to the website - www.lyonandturnbull.com
Then search for Banksy 
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Poppy Sunshine on Apr 21, 2009 15:00:53 GMT 1, Surely the auction house are taking a bit of a risk then aren't they?
Surely the auction house are taking a bit of a risk then aren't they?
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Daniel Silk on Apr 21, 2009 15:02:38 GMT 1, Surely the auction house are taking a bit of a risk then aren't they?
Yep! guess so
Surely the auction house are taking a bit of a risk then aren't they? Yep! guess so |
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Daniel Silk on Apr 21, 2009 15:05:51 GMT 1, I cant see them going for those estimates  without real authentication you would be better off going for a Authenticated signed Banksy Print.
I cant see them going for those estimates without real authentication you would be better off going for a Authenticated signed Banksy Print. |
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Guest on Apr 21, 2009 15:24:46 GMT 1, Im pretty sure that is the same one Als, why would anyone buy this, so easy to fake and without PC certificate worthless.
Im pretty sure that is the same one Als, why would anyone buy this, so easy to fake and without PC certificate worthless.
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Happy Shopper on Apr 21, 2009 15:34:29 GMT 1, It's odd. They're priced as if they're not authenticated, while saying they are...
I mean, if these were authenticated they'd be worth loads more. By pricing them low they're almost admitting they're dodgy!
It's odd. They're priced as if they're not authenticated, while saying they are...
I mean, if these were authenticated they'd be worth loads more. By pricing them low they're almost admitting they're dodgy!
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Lyon & Turnbull Auctions ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ, by Guest on Apr 21, 2009 15:38:32 GMT 1, Would love to see these exposed as fakes, and put a stop to vermin bullshit.
Would love to see these exposed as fakes, and put a stop to vermin bullshit.
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its has no more value than anyone of us printing up a certificate to say a piece is genuine.
