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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by funster on Feb 27, 2009 0:41:03 GMT 1, Doesn't it depend on which lots sold? 165 lots - 80% sold - thats pretty good in my opinion - or do you base the success of an auction on a specific artist?
DNFA themselves listed their 'star' lots, many of those didn't sell.
Doesn't it depend on which lots sold? 165 lots - 80% sold - thats pretty good in my opinion - or do you base the success of an auction on a specific artist? DNFA themselves listed their 'star' lots, many of those didn't sell. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by graeme501 on Feb 27, 2009 0:41:08 GMT 1, Doesn't it depend on which lots sold? 165 lots - 80% sold - thats pretty good in my opinion - or do you base the success of an auction on a specific artist?
yeah but it makes a difference when the ones sold are going for a few Β£100 and the ones passed have been banksy and neate originals
Doesn't it depend on which lots sold? 165 lots - 80% sold - thats pretty good in my opinion - or do you base the success of an auction on a specific artist? yeah but it makes a difference when the ones sold are going for a few Β£100 and the ones passed have been banksy and neate originals |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by cookiemonster on Feb 27, 2009 0:55:49 GMT 1, thats not exactly true though is it graeme, there was mix for all, and no it doesnt make a difference, as not everyone is interested in blowing 10's of thousands of pounds on a Banksy or a Neate.
thats not exactly true though is it graeme, there was mix for all, and no it doesnt make a difference, as not everyone is interested in blowing 10's of thousands of pounds on a Banksy or a Neate.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Nuno on Feb 27, 2009 1:08:48 GMT 1, Just found the artcore results, Not done the maths, but loads of stuff unsold, or atleast without an amount beside it.
Just found the artcore results, Not done the maths, but loads of stuff unsold, or atleast without an amount beside it.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by graeme501 on Feb 27, 2009 1:18:17 GMT 1, thats not exactly true though is it graeme, there was mix for all, and no it doesnt make a difference, as not everyone is interested in blowing 10's of thousands of pounds on a Banksy or a Neate.
well yes, it does make a difference, especially if your the auction house bringing in the fee's
thats not exactly true though is it graeme, there was mix for all, and no it doesnt make a difference, as not everyone is interested in blowing 10's of thousands of pounds on a Banksy or a Neate. well yes, it does make a difference, especially if your the auction house bringing in the fee's |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wiz on Feb 27, 2009 2:08:10 GMT 1, The sale results are now posted on Dreweatts site.
The sale results are now posted on Dreweatts site.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by afroken on Feb 27, 2009 2:15:20 GMT 1, What makes me laugh, is how many people have been banging on about wanting a piece from Judith Supine for so long, then three fantastic pieces come up in the space of a week at very reasonable prices and only one of them sells (and a steal at that!)
I would pay good money for a Supine, but I wouldn't have touched any of those three. All below par if you ask me. It's not about the name, it's about quality. But I don't need to tell you that Ed 
What makes me laugh, is how many people have been banging on about wanting a piece from Judith Supine for so long, then three fantastic pieces come up in the space of a week at very reasonable prices and only one of them sells (and a steal at that!) I would pay good money for a Supine, but I wouldn't have touched any of those three. All below par if you ask me. It's not about the name, it's about quality. But I don't need to tell you that Ed |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by edcase on Feb 27, 2009 2:24:37 GMT 1, What makes me laugh, is how many people have been banging on about wanting a piece from Judith Supine for so long, then three fantastic pieces come up in the space of a week at very reasonable prices and only one of them sells (and a steal at that!) I would pay good money for a Supine, but I wouldn't have touched any of those three. All below par if you ask me. It's not about the name, it's about quality. But I don't need to tell you that Ed
Yep, agree re: the other two but I thought the one at dreweatts was a cracker. (In fact, looking at it here on my wall I'd say yes, it's definitely great ;D)
What makes me laugh, is how many people have been banging on about wanting a piece from Judith Supine for so long, then three fantastic pieces come up in the space of a week at very reasonable prices and only one of them sells (and a steal at that!) I would pay good money for a Supine, but I wouldn't have touched any of those three. All below par if you ask me. It's not about the name, it's about quality. But I don't need to tell you that Ed Yep, agree re: the other two but I thought the one at dreweatts was a cracker. (In fact, looking at it here on my wall I'd say yes, it's definitely great ;D) |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wiz on Feb 27, 2009 2:30:07 GMT 1, Im with you on that Ed, i thought the one tonight was better, glad you got it!, you surely must be running short on wallspace now though?.haha.
Im with you on that Ed, i thought the one tonight was better, glad you got it!, you surely must be running short on wallspace now though?.haha.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by raiden on Feb 27, 2009 3:01:48 GMT 1, Why did Eelus and Russ Mills aka Byroglyphics do so poorly? Eelus did particularly poorly in terms of his last result at Dreweatts which was shockingly high - plus, he seemed to catch even more heat following POW Open Day. Granted, Bleeding Mess isn't his best IMO, but the triptych was solid and really sold for a steal. I'm frankly surprised as Eelus has been exceeding estimates routinely when his works come up for auction and right now he's hotter than ever - yet saw regression in his price.
Was there a lot more phone bidding this time??? Because it seemed that certain artists with British only fan bases did weaker. (Not in all cases, but in many cases, this may explain things) Just wondering.
Meanwhile, this is Russ' first auction and I expected much better results overall... at least something inline with Red Propellers gallery prices six months ago. His prints sell out instantly and he's got a pretty decent market - though I will concede, this didn't look like his best work.
Congrats to Pam Glew! She was the last artist I bought from before finances went south. She's quite the talent. I expect big things from her.
Why did Eelus and Russ Mills aka Byroglyphics do so poorly? Eelus did particularly poorly in terms of his last result at Dreweatts which was shockingly high - plus, he seemed to catch even more heat following POW Open Day. Granted, Bleeding Mess isn't his best IMO, but the triptych was solid and really sold for a steal. I'm frankly surprised as Eelus has been exceeding estimates routinely when his works come up for auction and right now he's hotter than ever - yet saw regression in his price.
Was there a lot more phone bidding this time??? Because it seemed that certain artists with British only fan bases did weaker. (Not in all cases, but in many cases, this may explain things) Just wondering.
Meanwhile, this is Russ' first auction and I expected much better results overall... at least something inline with Red Propellers gallery prices six months ago. His prints sell out instantly and he's got a pretty decent market - though I will concede, this didn't look like his best work.
Congrats to Pam Glew! She was the last artist I bought from before finances went south. She's quite the talent. I expect big things from her.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by RYCA on Feb 27, 2009 8:22:41 GMT 1, it is pronounced "ryka".
a few people i've meet have called me r-y-c-a, some people use curse words, but noone has swung for me ... yet
that Byroglyphics piece was really nice, the eelus set was my favourite what did it go for?
it is pronounced "ryka". a few people i've meet have called me r-y-c-a, some people use curse words, but noone has swung for me ... yet that Byroglyphics piece was really nice, the eelus set was my favourite what did it go for? |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by guest2 on Feb 27, 2009 8:48:03 GMT 1, What makes me laugh, is how many people have been banging on about wanting a piece from Judith Supine for so long, then three fantastic pieces come up in the space of a week at very reasonable prices and only one of them sells (and a steal at that!) Maybe that crazy guy WHO WROTE EVERTYHING IN CAPS wasn't so far wide of the mark after all, or maybe everyone is just broke?
not inc the one at auction that sold yesterday I personally could see easily why the 2 at Bonhams did not sell. I for one certainly would not have bought them. I am a def fan of Supine too.
What makes me laugh, is how many people have been banging on about wanting a piece from Judith Supine for so long, then three fantastic pieces come up in the space of a week at very reasonable prices and only one of them sells (and a steal at that!) Maybe that crazy guy WHO WROTE EVERTYHING IN CAPS wasn't so far wide of the mark after all, or maybe everyone is just broke? not inc the one at auction that sold yesterday I personally could see easily why the 2 at Bonhams did not sell. I for one certainly would not have bought them. I am a def fan of Supine too. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by funster on Feb 27, 2009 9:38:14 GMT 1, Financial Breakdown for lots 1 - 70:
Total Hammer Price - Β£129,130
Total Inc Buyers Premium - Β£154,956
Buyers Premium (excluding tax) - Β£25,826
Total return to DNFA - Circa Β£40k depending on what deals were done on the 'star' lots.
Financial Breakdown for lots 1 - 70:
Total Hammer Price - Β£129,130
Total Inc Buyers Premium - Β£154,956
Buyers Premium (excluding tax) - Β£25,826
Total return to DNFA - Circa Β£40k depending on what deals were done on the 'star' lots.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by silvermyn on Feb 27, 2009 9:59:30 GMT 1, I was bidding on the Faile Butterfly Girl 1/1. Got up to about Β£3k then gave up.
Went for about Β£3.7k which is quite reasonable considering the last 1/1 Butterfly Girl I recall sold for about Β£8k.
I was bidding on the Faile Butterfly Girl 1/1. Got up to about Β£3k then gave up.
Went for about Β£3.7k which is quite reasonable considering the last 1/1 Butterfly Girl I recall sold for about Β£8k.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by manty on Feb 27, 2009 10:26:28 GMT 1, Financial Breakdown for lots 1 - 70: Total Hammer Price - Β£129,130 Total Inc Buyers Premium - Β£154,956 Buyers Premium (excluding tax) - Β£25,826 Total return to DNFA - Circa Β£40k depending on what deals were done on the 'star' lots.
thanks for that Funster
Not a lot of profit for the auction house then, I cant imagine the space at Selfridges being a bargain basement price
Financial Breakdown for lots 1 - 70: Total Hammer Price - Β£129,130 Total Inc Buyers Premium - Β£154,956 Buyers Premium (excluding tax) - Β£25,826 Total return to DNFA - Circa Β£40k depending on what deals were done on the 'star' lots. thanks for that Funster Not a lot of profit for the auction house then, I cant imagine the space at Selfridges being a bargain basement price |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by angel41 on Feb 27, 2009 10:30:12 GMT 1, Looks like most pieces went for the strength of what they were rather than the artists reputations with this auction.
Looks like most pieces went for the strength of what they were rather than the artists reputations with this auction.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wiz on Feb 27, 2009 10:38:13 GMT 1, True Manty but DNFA do hold other auctions all year round so i suppose they wont be crying this morning. maybe they get a good deal at Selfridges with the sale having a charity section?.
True Manty but DNFA do hold other auctions all year round so i suppose they wont be crying this morning. maybe they get a good deal at Selfridges with the sale having a charity section?.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by buffin on Feb 27, 2009 10:45:19 GMT 1, Thought prices were reasonable in the main for both buyers and sellers. Even the higher end stuff that wasn't sold didn't seem to miss the mark by too much. No Ball Games was one of the best executed Banksys I've seen and the Neate Blue Couple was stunning. Oh to be able to splash the cash on those!
Thought prices were reasonable in the main for both buyers and sellers. Even the higher end stuff that wasn't sold didn't seem to miss the mark by too much. No Ball Games was one of the best executed Banksys I've seen and the Neate Blue Couple was stunning. Oh to be able to splash the cash on those!
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 10:51:24 GMT 1, Even the higher end stuff that wasn't sold didn't seem to miss the mark by too much.
unfortunately doesn't hold water as pieces are regularly bid up to just below the estimated 'low value' in the hope an 'honest' bid will be placed and the item sold..I've heard of a member of this very forum doing this on occasion
Even the higher end stuff that wasn't sold didn't seem to miss the mark by too much. unfortunately doesn't hold water as pieces are regularly bid up to just below the estimated 'low value' in the hope an 'honest' bid will be placed and the item sold..I've heard of a member of this very forum doing this on occasion |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 10:52:44 GMT 1, so the Walker that went for 2.2k was this from the series seen at the recent print show selling for 2.5k?
so the Walker that went for 2.2k was this from the series seen at the recent print show selling for 2.5k?
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by guest2 on Feb 27, 2009 10:56:08 GMT 1, Thought prices were reasonable in the main for both buyers and sellers. Even the higher end stuff that wasn't sold didn't seem to miss the mark by too much. No Ball Games was one of the best executed Banksys I've seen and the Neate Blue Couple was stunning. Oh to be able to splash the cash on those!
Items that do not sell ALWAYS 'seem to miss the mark by (not) too much'
This is because the auctioneers shill bid them up to the reserve hoping someone comes in takes it too the reserve and shazam - it's sold.
If a piece does not go above the reserve it's very very difficault to know how it was really doing.
There are a few exceptions, take banskys meet the flockers - my guess is that this never even got a real bid at the starting price of 20k and after being somewhat already deflated the auctioneer found it hard to justify shill bidding it up to the reserve of 40k and just folded.
While I'm talking about that piece, was this the only piece in the charity thing that had a reserve and only a percentage of the sale was going to charity? Seems strange for Banksy not to donate the whole sum as charity has been something that he has done wonders for in the past.
Thought prices were reasonable in the main for both buyers and sellers. Even the higher end stuff that wasn't sold didn't seem to miss the mark by too much. No Ball Games was one of the best executed Banksys I've seen and the Neate Blue Couple was stunning. Oh to be able to splash the cash on those! Items that do not sell ALWAYS 'seem to miss the mark by (not) too much' This is because the auctioneers shill bid them up to the reserve hoping someone comes in takes it too the reserve and shazam - it's sold. If a piece does not go above the reserve it's very very difficault to know how it was really doing. There are a few exceptions, take banskys meet the flockers - my guess is that this never even got a real bid at the starting price of 20k and after being somewhat already deflated the auctioneer found it hard to justify shill bidding it up to the reserve of 40k and just folded. While I'm talking about that piece, was this the only piece in the charity thing that had a reserve and only a percentage of the sale was going to charity? Seems strange for Banksy not to donate the whole sum as charity has been something that he has done wonders for in the past. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 27, 2009 10:59:24 GMT 1, Frankie - with regards to Go Flock Yourself, I think there is a rather convuluted story behind it and the title is something to do with it or so I'm told.
Frankie - with regards to Go Flock Yourself, I think there is a rather convuluted story behind it and the title is something to do with it or so I'm told.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by guest2 on Feb 27, 2009 11:35:30 GMT 1, so the Walker that went for 2.2k was this from the series seen at the recent print show selling for 2.5k?
was it 2.2 on the hammer? If so that takes it up to the correct amount.
so the Walker that went for 2.2k was this from the series seen at the recent print show selling for 2.5k? was it 2.2 on the hammer? If so that takes it up to the correct amount. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by manchestermike on Feb 27, 2009 11:35:33 GMT 1, Financial Breakdown for lots 1 - 70: Total Hammer Price - Β£129,130 Total Inc Buyers Premium - Β£154,956 Buyers Premium (excluding tax) - Β£25,826 Total return to DNFA - Circa Β£40k depending on what deals were done on the 'star' lots. thanks for that Funster Not a lot of profit for the auction house then, I cant imagine the space at Selfridges being a bargain basement price
There was another auction in there directly before the Urban Art one
Financial Breakdown for lots 1 - 70: Total Hammer Price - Β£129,130 Total Inc Buyers Premium - Β£154,956 Buyers Premium (excluding tax) - Β£25,826 Total return to DNFA - Circa Β£40k depending on what deals were done on the 'star' lots. thanks for that Funster Not a lot of profit for the auction house then, I cant imagine the space at Selfridges being a bargain basement price There was another auction in there directly before the Urban Art one |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by spencerlee on Feb 27, 2009 11:37:58 GMT 1, I was bidding on the Faile Butterfly Girl 1/1. Got up to about Β£3k then gave up. Went for about Β£3.7k which is quite reasonable considering the last 1/1 Butterfly Girl I recall sold for about Β£8k.
That's a strange one. I don't know what the edition the one last night was from, but the one that went for 8k on ebay, looks to me very similar to one from an edition of 10. Though the hand finishing might mark it as a 1/1. The reason I know this is that I actually bought one that looked exactly like the one that went for 8k, but it got lost on the way to me from Faile...so I never got it. Gutted isn't the word. It was an edition of 10 or maybe 12 when I ordered it in 2006.
I was bidding on the Faile Butterfly Girl 1/1. Got up to about Β£3k then gave up. Went for about Β£3.7k which is quite reasonable considering the last 1/1 Butterfly Girl I recall sold for about Β£8k. That's a strange one. I don't know what the edition the one last night was from, but the one that went for 8k on ebay, looks to me very similar to one from an edition of 10. Though the hand finishing might mark it as a 1/1. The reason I know this is that I actually bought one that looked exactly like the one that went for 8k, but it got lost on the way to me from Faile...so I never got it. Gutted isn't the word. It was an edition of 10 or maybe 12 when I ordered it in 2006. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by babyford on Feb 27, 2009 11:56:42 GMT 1, I was bidding on the Faile Butterfly Girl 1/1. Got up to about Β£3k then gave up. Went for about Β£3.7k which is quite reasonable considering the last 1/1 Butterfly Girl I recall sold for about Β£8k.
The Butterfly Girl at the Auction look unfinished - Went for a good price though
The one that went for 8k was the nuts 
I was bidding on the Faile Butterfly Girl 1/1. Got up to about Β£3k then gave up. Went for about Β£3.7k which is quite reasonable considering the last 1/1 Butterfly Girl I recall sold for about Β£8k. The Butterfly Girl at the Auction look unfinished - Went for a good price though The one that went for 8k was the nuts |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by spencerlee on Feb 27, 2009 12:04:58 GMT 1, I was bidding on the Faile Butterfly Girl 1/1. Got up to about Β£3k then gave up. Went for about Β£3.7k which is quite reasonable considering the last 1/1 Butterfly Girl I recall sold for about Β£8k. The Butterfly Girl at the Auction look unfinished - Went for a good price though The one that went for 8k was the nuts
Tell me about it. 
I was bidding on the Faile Butterfly Girl 1/1. Got up to about Β£3k then gave up. Went for about Β£3.7k which is quite reasonable considering the last 1/1 Butterfly Girl I recall sold for about Β£8k. The Butterfly Girl at the Auction look unfinished - Went for a good price though The one that went for 8k was the nuts Tell me about it. |
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