RBK
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by RBK on Oct 22, 2010 17:06:51 GMT 1, I really liked that David Ellis. Was going to make an offer the fact if it went unsold - but it did - so good for the bank account.
I really liked that David Ellis. Was going to make an offer the fact if it went unsold - but it did - so good for the bank account.
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Winter
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Winter on Oct 22, 2010 21:18:15 GMT 1, how much did the eines go for thought they were well under estimated the circus canvas did well Lot 73 Hammer Β£3200 Sold Β£3,840 Think this will seem reasonable when new canvases are released through a show
how much did the eines go for thought they were well under estimated the circus canvas did well Lot 73 Hammer Β£3200 Sold Β£3,840 Think this will seem reasonable when new canvases are released through a show
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by laing on Oct 22, 2010 21:29:22 GMT 1, Jeff Koons (American, b.1955) Cracked Egg, 2008, Anodised cast aluminium, Β£1,900
Does anyone know the size of this edition or where I can find one to buy?
Jeff Koons (American, b.1955) Cracked Egg, 2008, Anodised cast aluminium, Β£1,900 Does anyone know the size of this edition or where I can find one to buy?
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wizzy on Oct 22, 2010 21:31:14 GMT 1, Give Karin a shout at Artaban, down as sold on site but im sure she has some knocking around somewhere.
Give Karin a shout at Artaban, down as sold on site but im sure she has some knocking around somewhere.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Collection 1 on Oct 22, 2010 21:39:53 GMT 1, the Micallef Girl in a red dress did well imho. 11 000gbp!! The guide price was 6000 to 8000!
the Micallef Girl in a red dress did well imho. 11 000gbp!! The guide price was 6000 to 8000!
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wizzy on Oct 22, 2010 21:42:20 GMT 1, The guide on that was too low, it was a play safe guide, i thought it would have gone higher than it did tbh.
The guide on that was too low, it was a play safe guide, i thought it would have gone higher than it did tbh.
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Winter
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Winter on Oct 22, 2010 23:20:35 GMT 1, Bit of a weak article, hardly comparable pieces. The owner(s) of the Hirst should have kept it, it only has any real meaning to them - should have framed it and hung it in the loo. A weird mish-mash of works in that auction. The Opie didn't fit too well and would have got more in a different auction on a different day.
Bit of a weak article, hardly comparable pieces. The owner(s) of the Hirst should have kept it, it only has any real meaning to them - should have framed it and hung it in the loo. A weird mish-mash of works in that auction. The Opie didn't fit too well and would have got more in a different auction on a different day.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by qwertystar on Oct 23, 2010 0:26:17 GMT 1, Damn- an ordinary sale, but very weak results nonetheless. Anyway, a few thoughts: Part of the problem seems to be that the majority of the prints offered at the sale are available 24/7 through ebay, not to mention the various forums/on-line galleries. Dreweatts potential market for this sale is familiar with on-line pricing and with the process of buying and selling art on-line. These buyers are simply not willing to pay a premium to source an item from an auction house. As a result Dreweatts is essentially going head to head with small time collectors/flippers etc. This raises two issues- firstly, auction houses are not commercially nimble. Auctions are planned months in advance, consignment dates close weeks before the auction. In contrast, private collectors can list and sell items within a matter of minutes. Secondly, Dreweatts has substantial overheads to cover- rents/tax/wages and so on. Private collectors selling on-line face far fewer costs. I don't think that Dreweatts (or any other auction house) can successfully compete in these circumstances. I'd suggest that Dreweatts has two options. The first is to simply be far more selective about what's sold- to focus upon original works and in particular to refuse to sell recent prints from large runs where there are already multiple versions available for sale elsewhere. The second would be to set up an ebay-like interface through their site and to use it to sell low-value prints. This would reduce Dreweatts overheads/cataloguing costs etc and enable the auction house to take on ebay on its own ground. Dreweatts could get away with charging higher fees than ebay if they were prepared to guarantee the authenticity/condition of the work. Sadly, I think that another sale like this runs the risk of undermining Dreweatts reputation - I can't imagine that sellers are lining up for the next urban editions auction.
Good post and absolutley agree
Damn- an ordinary sale, but very weak results nonetheless. Anyway, a few thoughts: Part of the problem seems to be that the majority of the prints offered at the sale are available 24/7 through ebay, not to mention the various forums/on-line galleries. Dreweatts potential market for this sale is familiar with on-line pricing and with the process of buying and selling art on-line. These buyers are simply not willing to pay a premium to source an item from an auction house. As a result Dreweatts is essentially going head to head with small time collectors/flippers etc. This raises two issues- firstly, auction houses are not commercially nimble. Auctions are planned months in advance, consignment dates close weeks before the auction. In contrast, private collectors can list and sell items within a matter of minutes. Secondly, Dreweatts has substantial overheads to cover- rents/tax/wages and so on. Private collectors selling on-line face far fewer costs. I don't think that Dreweatts (or any other auction house) can successfully compete in these circumstances. I'd suggest that Dreweatts has two options. The first is to simply be far more selective about what's sold- to focus upon original works and in particular to refuse to sell recent prints from large runs where there are already multiple versions available for sale elsewhere. The second would be to set up an ebay-like interface through their site and to use it to sell low-value prints. This would reduce Dreweatts overheads/cataloguing costs etc and enable the auction house to take on ebay on its own ground. Dreweatts could get away with charging higher fees than ebay if they were prepared to guarantee the authenticity/condition of the work. Sadly, I think that another sale like this runs the risk of undermining Dreweatts reputation - I can't imagine that sellers are lining up for the next urban editions auction. Good post and absolutley agree
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Rude Copper on Oct 23, 2010 13:11:46 GMT 1, how much did the kate a/p go for?
how much did the kate a/p go for?
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Oct 23, 2010 17:56:42 GMT 1, Damn- an ordinary sale, but very weak results nonetheless. Anyway, a few thoughts: Part of the problem seems to be that the majority of the prints offered at the sale are available 24/7 through ebay, not to mention the various forums/on-line galleries. Dreweatts potential market for this sale is familiar with on-line pricing and with the process of buying and selling art on-line. These buyers are simply not willing to pay a premium to source an item from an auction house. As a result Dreweatts is essentially going head to head with small time collectors/flippers etc. This raises two issues- firstly, auction houses are not commercially nimble. Auctions are planned months in advance, consignment dates close weeks before the auction. In contrast, private collectors can list and sell items within a matter of minutes. Secondly, Dreweatts has substantial overheads to cover- rents/tax/wages and so on. Private collectors selling on-line face far fewer costs. I don't think that Dreweatts (or any other auction house) can successfully compete in these circumstances. I'd suggest that Dreweatts has two options. The first is to simply be far more selective about what's sold- to focus upon original works and in particular to refuse to sell recent prints from large runs where there are already multiple versions available for sale elsewhere. The second would be to set up an ebay-like interface through their site and to use it to sell low-value prints. This would reduce Dreweatts overheads/cataloguing costs etc and enable the auction house to take on ebay on its own ground. Dreweatts could get away with charging higher fees than ebay if they were prepared to guarantee the authenticity/condition of the work. Sadly, I think that another sale like this runs the risk of undermining Dreweatts reputation - I can't imagine that sellers are lining up for the next urban editions auction. Good post and absolutley agree
Whilst at first glance this may seem to be the case, I think this is only if you look at it from the forums "make a quick buck from urban art" perspective. Which with all due respect, is a tiny niche area within a multi million dollar industry. Auction Houses are run by pretty smart market and capital orientated people. The "live" online auction market is in its infancy, and like online "poker" before it, has enormous untapped potential. Remember the first time you bid on ebay ? The excitement, adrenalin.. and you went back and back again... welcome to the Auction House arena.. Dreweatts and the others have introduced thousands of new customers to the "Auction" house arena through these sales... and you can bet your bottom dollar that a few of those customers will remain and be spending for years.
Damn- an ordinary sale, but very weak results nonetheless. Anyway, a few thoughts: Part of the problem seems to be that the majority of the prints offered at the sale are available 24/7 through ebay, not to mention the various forums/on-line galleries. Dreweatts potential market for this sale is familiar with on-line pricing and with the process of buying and selling art on-line. These buyers are simply not willing to pay a premium to source an item from an auction house. As a result Dreweatts is essentially going head to head with small time collectors/flippers etc. This raises two issues- firstly, auction houses are not commercially nimble. Auctions are planned months in advance, consignment dates close weeks before the auction. In contrast, private collectors can list and sell items within a matter of minutes. Secondly, Dreweatts has substantial overheads to cover- rents/tax/wages and so on. Private collectors selling on-line face far fewer costs. I don't think that Dreweatts (or any other auction house) can successfully compete in these circumstances. I'd suggest that Dreweatts has two options. The first is to simply be far more selective about what's sold- to focus upon original works and in particular to refuse to sell recent prints from large runs where there are already multiple versions available for sale elsewhere. The second would be to set up an ebay-like interface through their site and to use it to sell low-value prints. This would reduce Dreweatts overheads/cataloguing costs etc and enable the auction house to take on ebay on its own ground. Dreweatts could get away with charging higher fees than ebay if they were prepared to guarantee the authenticity/condition of the work. Sadly, I think that another sale like this runs the risk of undermining Dreweatts reputation - I can't imagine that sellers are lining up for the next urban editions auction. Good post and absolutley agree Whilst at first glance this may seem to be the case, I think this is only if you look at it from the forums "make a quick buck from urban art" perspective. Which with all due respect, is a tiny niche area within a multi million dollar industry. Auction Houses are run by pretty smart market and capital orientated people. The "live" online auction market is in its infancy, and like online "poker" before it, has enormous untapped potential. Remember the first time you bid on ebay ? The excitement, adrenalin.. and you went back and back again... welcome to the Auction House arena.. Dreweatts and the others have introduced thousands of new customers to the "Auction" house arena through these sales... and you can bet your bottom dollar that a few of those customers will remain and be spending for years.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wizzy on Oct 23, 2010 18:25:34 GMT 1, I agree with that mostly re introducing new potential clients etc., these potential clients will only buy if they want to and / or its a good buy, they wont be buying rubbish or tat, and certainly wont pay over the odds for purchases, bidding from home gives you time to think and act accordingly without being caught up in the saleroom aura and becoming stricken with auction fever, much in the way a phone bid does and has done for many years.
I agree with that mostly re introducing new potential clients etc., these potential clients will only buy if they want to and / or its a good buy, they wont be buying rubbish or tat, and certainly wont pay over the odds for purchases, bidding from home gives you time to think and act accordingly without being caught up in the saleroom aura and becoming stricken with auction fever, much in the way a phone bid does and has done for many years.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by PUD on Oct 25, 2010 16:55:40 GMT 1, Antony Micallef (British, b.1975) Girl In A Red Dress, Β£11,000
Hmmmm, had a little commission bid on this, missed it by less than Β£1k, feeling more gutted every day that i didnt push a little harder. Just love it!!
Antony Micallef (British, b.1975) Girl In A Red Dress, Β£11,000 Hmmmm, had a little commission bid on this, missed it by less than Β£1k, feeling more gutted every day that i didnt push a little harder. Just love it!!
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by wizzy on Oct 25, 2010 17:06:58 GMT 1, You were a little bit closer to having this than i was then Pud!, course thats not to say that the winning bidder wouldnt have gone even higher if it came it, cant say im that fussed really now to be honest, theres always something else!.
You were a little bit closer to having this than i was then Pud!, course thats not to say that the winning bidder wouldnt have gone even higher if it came it, cant say im that fussed really now to be honest, theres always something else!.
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Sundowner
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Sundowner on Oct 25, 2010 22:37:23 GMT 1, how much did the kate a/p go for?
It didn't.....it's in a special sale next month - I won't spoil the surprise of the rest of the lots.
how much did the kate a/p go for? It didn't.....it's in a special sale next month - I won't spoil the surprise of the rest of the lots.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Simococo on Nov 9, 2010 8:19:03 GMT 1, is that sale still going ahead. There is a contemporary sale listed for tomorrow but no catalogue???
is that sale still going ahead. There is a contemporary sale listed for tomorrow but no catalogue???
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Sundowner
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Sundowner on Nov 15, 2010 14:03:59 GMT 1, Watch this space.......
Watch this space.......
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by waveydavey on Nov 15, 2010 14:16:30 GMT 1, Anyone got a link?
Anyone got a link?
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Sundowner
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Sundowner on Nov 15, 2010 18:02:47 GMT 1, Not out yet.......watch this space.
Not out yet.......watch this space.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by popmozz on Nov 30, 2010 14:10:53 GMT 1, Anyone knows when the catalouge is out?
Anyone knows when the catalouge is out?
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Nov 30, 2010 15:47:14 GMT 1, looks loke its on their wevsite no? you refering to the print sale?
looks loke its on their wevsite no? you refering to the print sale?
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daniel3886
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Nov 30, 2010 15:48:14 GMT 1, drunk @ work again!!!!!!!
drunk @ work again!!!!!!!
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Damien
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Damien on Nov 30, 2010 15:58:42 GMT 1, whats happening wiz? :-)
whats happening wiz? :-)
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Sundowner
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Sundowner on Nov 30, 2010 16:49:54 GMT 1, Check the final lots at numbers 308 to 326. All Banksy, including the mono Kate AP (Lot 317) with a Β£30k - Β£40k estimate, and a Gangsta Rat AP (Lot 313) with an Β£8k - Β£12k estimate.
Check the final lots at numbers 308 to 326. All Banksy, including the mono Kate AP (Lot 317) with a Β£30k - Β£40k estimate, and a Gangsta Rat AP (Lot 313) with an Β£8k - Β£12k estimate.
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Sundowner
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Sundowner on Nov 30, 2010 17:15:58 GMT 1, BTW, not sure when Banksy counted as "20th" Century prints......
BTW, not sure when Banksy counted as "20th" Century prints......
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by craigf on Nov 30, 2010 17:22:21 GMT 1, I guess some artistic licence being used re the 20th Century Print headline
There are some nice pieces including a full set of LA prints, a Rude Copper, Christ with Shopping Bags and a number of early signed prints. I might need to change my plans for the 15th......
I guess some artistic licence being used re the 20th Century Print headline There are some nice pieces including a full set of LA prints, a Rude Copper, Christ with Shopping Bags and a number of early signed prints. I might need to change my plans for the 15th......
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Sundowner
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Sundowner on Nov 30, 2010 17:23:37 GMT 1, I guess that might mean you are tempted by some goodies in the sale then Craig.....
I guess that might mean you are tempted by some goodies in the sale then Craig.....
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craigf
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by craigf on Nov 30, 2010 17:27:49 GMT 1, Yep, but really shouldn't as I am all spent up and meant to be saving for something else. Let's see whether I can resist
Yep, but really shouldn't as I am all spent up and meant to be saving for something else. Let's see whether I can resist
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Brushstrokes 75 on Nov 30, 2010 23:30:13 GMT 1, I can tell you that they changed the reserve price on the CWSB. Initially was Β£10K, it should be Β£8K to the latest news if anyone thinking about it!
I can tell you that they changed the reserve price on the CWSB. Initially was Β£10K, it should be Β£8K to the latest news if anyone thinking about it!
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