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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by darjeeling on Nov 16, 2007 5:56:30 GMT 1, Before I start Im just gonna say I don't understand how the American art market works and what direction its going but this is just my angle on it - To me it seems the UK Street Art market is running the show here and in America, I know loads of people will say thats crap  but the number of times I hear about American artists that are just about scraping along, and they get mentioned on here, and within a few days their website is crashing and the orders are flooding in  I don't know whats wrong in America it just seem at the moment the UK art buyers are confident, and are moving forward ;D What percentage of Faile's prints are coming to UK collectors? How many of the Banksy LA prints have ended up back over here? I guess the price of the Pound against the Dollar has a big impact on the situation  But it certainly appears to me that the UK buyers are controlling the game ;D For how long? who knows  Shows held in America? hmmm I think the UK galleries are just feeling the water I don't believe they are going after American buyers as much as trying to impress UK Art collectors that the Artist is so big that they would have a show there PR stunt? ;D
UK Buyers controlling the game or just overzealous? I'm sure we're both a little biased in our opinion but we think you guys are nuts with your money. Sure, some of it is the weak dollar...
On the other hand the scene in the US is in my opinion a little more traditional, artists slowly build up their resume (and their prices) which in my opinion is much healthier.
And I'm not an authority but if you're curious the alternative arts and street scene in the US right now is less about street and stencil art, (except of course for Obey, Neckface, Supine etc.) but it's more about A. The pop surrealists (which personally I don't like at all but is really popular) B. The Beautiful Losers and Mission Scene C. Misc stuff like Kehinde Wiley, Dash Snow, Ryan Mcginley, Andrew Schoultz, Jules Balincourt, Dzama, and loads of others...
Before I start Im just gonna say I don't understand how the American art market works and what direction its going but this is just my angle on it - To me it seems the UK Street Art market is running the show here and in America, I know loads of people will say thats crap but the number of times I hear about American artists that are just about scraping along, and they get mentioned on here, and within a few days their website is crashing and the orders are flooding in I don't know whats wrong in America it just seem at the moment the UK art buyers are confident, and are moving forward ;D What percentage of Faile's prints are coming to UK collectors? How many of the Banksy LA prints have ended up back over here? I guess the price of the Pound against the Dollar has a big impact on the situation But it certainly appears to me that the UK buyers are controlling the game ;D For how long? who knows Shows held in America? hmmm I think the UK galleries are just feeling the water I don't believe they are going after American buyers as much as trying to impress UK Art collectors that the Artist is so big that they would have a show there PR stunt? ;D UK Buyers controlling the game or just overzealous? I'm sure we're both a little biased in our opinion but we think you guys are nuts with your money. Sure, some of it is the weak dollar... On the other hand the scene in the US is in my opinion a little more traditional, artists slowly build up their resume (and their prices) which in my opinion is much healthier. And I'm not an authority but if you're curious the alternative arts and street scene in the US right now is less about street and stencil art, (except of course for Obey, Neckface, Supine etc.) but it's more about A. The pop surrealists (which personally I don't like at all but is really popular) B. The Beautiful Losers and Mission Scene C. Misc stuff like Kehinde Wiley, Dash Snow, Ryan Mcginley, Andrew Schoultz, Jules Balincourt, Dzama, and loads of others... |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by Bram on Nov 16, 2007 11:38:17 GMT 1, My first post here - so be easy on me - but the annals of history, especially in art, show that cream will always rise to the top and if Anthony is the real deal then there is no "risk" in buying any of his stuff. So maybe its the quality of the image rather than the artist name or agent that is most important but essensially ART FOR LOVE, NOT PROFIT.
My first post here - so be easy on me - but the annals of history, especially in art, show that cream will always rise to the top and if Anthony is the real deal then there is no "risk" in buying any of his stuff. So maybe its the quality of the image rather than the artist name or agent that is most important but essensially ART FOR LOVE, NOT PROFIT.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by pezlow on Nov 16, 2007 11:58:26 GMT 1, Very interesting thread. Also it is very nice to see some new posters on this thread. Thank you for contributing.
My take on micallef is a bit coloured because I am still not sure I totally get him. GIWTBB is my favourite print of his but all this stuff with designer labels, corporate logos, trainers and guns just doesn't do it for me. I also seriously wonder about the longevity of some of these pieces. They look great now but will we be loving them in 10 years time?
The eyestorm japanese prints for me are the best body his work. I love the bubblegum nature of them and the way he obviously tips his hat to the superflat movement etc. I would prefer to see his work going in this direction rather than down the 21st century love/peacekeeper/judgement day line.
As for the scene in general there is definitely a disparity between europe and the US. Here in europe we like the street art stuff plus a mixture of more illustrative type work. The US seems to be fixated on the low-brow art market at the moment - ryden, amy sol, stella Im etc etc.
I also agree with the poster who said that certain images will stay with this movement. Artists who may not have created a huge body of work (yet) have already blessed us with some stand out images. Ripper's crucipod and Beejoir's LV Child are good example of this.
Very interesting thread. Also it is very nice to see some new posters on this thread. Thank you for contributing.
My take on micallef is a bit coloured because I am still not sure I totally get him. GIWTBB is my favourite print of his but all this stuff with designer labels, corporate logos, trainers and guns just doesn't do it for me. I also seriously wonder about the longevity of some of these pieces. They look great now but will we be loving them in 10 years time?
The eyestorm japanese prints for me are the best body his work. I love the bubblegum nature of them and the way he obviously tips his hat to the superflat movement etc. I would prefer to see his work going in this direction rather than down the 21st century love/peacekeeper/judgement day line.
As for the scene in general there is definitely a disparity between europe and the US. Here in europe we like the street art stuff plus a mixture of more illustrative type work. The US seems to be fixated on the low-brow art market at the moment - ryden, amy sol, stella Im etc etc.
I also agree with the poster who said that certain images will stay with this movement. Artists who may not have created a huge body of work (yet) have already blessed us with some stand out images. Ripper's crucipod and Beejoir's LV Child are good example of this.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by barry cilit on Nov 16, 2007 12:44:22 GMT 1, Very interesting thread. Also it is very nice to see some new posters on this thread. Thank you for contributing. My take on micallef is a bit coloured because I am still not sure I totally get him. GIWTBB is my favourite print of his but all this stuff with designer labels, corporate logos, trainers and guns just doesn't do it for me. I also seriously wonder about the longevity of some of these pieces. They look great now but will we be loving them in 10 years time? The eyestorm japanese prints for me are the best body his work. I love the bubblegum nature of them and the way he obviously tips his hat to the superflat movement etc. I would prefer to see his work going in this direction rather than down the 21st century love/peacekeeper/judgement day line. As for the scene in general there is definitely a disparity between europe and the US. Here in europe we like the street art stuff plus a mixture of more illustrative type work. The US seems to be fixated on the low-brow art market at the moment - ryden, amy sol, stella Im etc etc. I also agree with the poster who said that certain images will stay with this movement. Artists who may not have created a huge body of work (yet) have already blessed us with some stand out images. Ripper's crucipod and Beejoir's LV Child are good example of this.
spot on +1 from me
Very interesting thread. Also it is very nice to see some new posters on this thread. Thank you for contributing. My take on micallef is a bit coloured because I am still not sure I totally get him. GIWTBB is my favourite print of his but all this stuff with designer labels, corporate logos, trainers and guns just doesn't do it for me. I also seriously wonder about the longevity of some of these pieces. They look great now but will we be loving them in 10 years time? The eyestorm japanese prints for me are the best body his work. I love the bubblegum nature of them and the way he obviously tips his hat to the superflat movement etc. I would prefer to see his work going in this direction rather than down the 21st century love/peacekeeper/judgement day line. As for the scene in general there is definitely a disparity between europe and the US. Here in europe we like the street art stuff plus a mixture of more illustrative type work. The US seems to be fixated on the low-brow art market at the moment - ryden, amy sol, stella Im etc etc. I also agree with the poster who said that certain images will stay with this movement. Artists who may not have created a huge body of work (yet) have already blessed us with some stand out images. Ripper's crucipod and Beejoir's LV Child are good example of this. spot on +1 from me |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by patrese on Nov 16, 2007 13:46:14 GMT 1, i get the impression that with micallef, he was over hyped too soon, and now he is just coming back a little. I think most of his stuff is amazing, but i believe there is a small backlash primarily because he was overhyped (laz LA show), the 4 lax prints were pretty much all awful and way over priced, on top of the numerous bad experiences people had in trying to buy them and the ridiculous amount of prints that ended on ebay which quite frankly, is embarassing.
I would agree with the post above that the cream will certainly rise to the top, but if the no of prints released by him exceed the amount of new collectors, his prices will continue to fall (esp if they are over priced in the first place).
i personally only have 2 of his prints, but i am looking for more as prices are lower but in the long run i think he will be a huge success.
i get the impression that with micallef, he was over hyped too soon, and now he is just coming back a little. I think most of his stuff is amazing, but i believe there is a small backlash primarily because he was overhyped (laz LA show), the 4 lax prints were pretty much all awful and way over priced, on top of the numerous bad experiences people had in trying to buy them and the ridiculous amount of prints that ended on ebay which quite frankly, is embarassing.
I would agree with the post above that the cream will certainly rise to the top, but if the no of prints released by him exceed the amount of new collectors, his prices will continue to fall (esp if they are over priced in the first place).
i personally only have 2 of his prints, but i am looking for more as prices are lower but in the long run i think he will be a huge success.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by darjeeling on Nov 16, 2007 14:37:06 GMT 1, And I know someone brought up the question earlier in the thread and no one responded. But were there any serious reviews of the Micallef show? Like in art forum, artnet, anything? Anything except blogs?
I still don't get the complete diss on the Laz prints, I think they're much more iconic and that at ยฃ1k they didn't seem 'overpriced' based on the fact people were paying ยฃ2-3k for black and white prints just prior to the show. But it is a lesson to be learned, things change and art isn't always an easy flip.
And I know someone brought up the question earlier in the thread and no one responded. But were there any serious reviews of the Micallef show? Like in art forum, artnet, anything? Anything except blogs?
I still don't get the complete diss on the Laz prints, I think they're much more iconic and that at ยฃ1k they didn't seem 'overpriced' based on the fact people were paying ยฃ2-3k for black and white prints just prior to the show. But it is a lesson to be learned, things change and art isn't always an easy flip.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by manchestermike on Nov 16, 2007 14:46:29 GMT 1, And I know someone brought up the question earlier in the thread and no one responded. But were there any serious reviews of the Micallef show? Like in art forum, artnet, anything? Anything except blogs? I still don't get the complete diss on the Laz prints, I think they're much more iconic and that at ยฃ1k they didn't seem 'overpriced' based on the fact people were paying ยฃ2-3k for black and white prints just prior to the show. But it is a lesson to be learned, things change and art isn't always an easy flip.
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Why? The "black and white" prints were/are already much loved, of less than quarter the edition size and, along with the rest of the colour eyestorm prints, much better images.
I'd rather any eyestorm print than the new (i.e. last 4) Laz prints
And I know someone brought up the question earlier in the thread and no one responded. But were there any serious reviews of the Micallef show? Like in art forum, artnet, anything? Anything except blogs? I still don't get the complete diss on the Laz prints, I think they're much more iconic and that at ยฃ1k they didn't seem 'overpriced' based on the fact people were paying ยฃ2-3k for black and white prints just prior to the show. But it is a lesson to be learned, things change and art isn't always an easy flip. BUT Why? The "black and white" prints were/are already much loved, of less than quarter the edition size and, along with the rest of the colour eyestorm prints, much better images. I'd rather any eyestorm print than the new (i.e. last 4) Laz prints |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by afroken on Nov 16, 2007 16:41:53 GMT 1, I used to own a HFUNG and Tokyo Girl, which I had to sell a few months back due to financial pressures, and the Laz prints are far far superior. Images aside, those Eyestorm prints are washed out and poor quality on poor paper. The Laz prints look like you could blow the chalk off the surface. You've got to be ok with having images of guns hanging on your wall of course, which isn't everyone's cup of tea, but they wipe the floor with the Eyestorm prints (21CL aside) IMO.
I used to own a HFUNG and Tokyo Girl, which I had to sell a few months back due to financial pressures, and the Laz prints are far far superior. Images aside, those Eyestorm prints are washed out and poor quality on poor paper. The Laz prints look like you could blow the chalk off the surface. You've got to be ok with having images of guns hanging on your wall of course, which isn't everyone's cup of tea, but they wipe the floor with the Eyestorm prints (21CL aside) IMO.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by dld3t on Nov 16, 2007 18:55:16 GMT 1, I think I'll take a shot at this: British people have bad teeth, drink warm beer, and smell like cabbage. ;D Good lord, there's some painful stereotyping on this thread.
I think I'll take a shot at this: British people have bad teeth, drink warm beer, and smell like cabbage. ;D Good lord, there's some painful stereotyping on this thread.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by dld3t on Nov 16, 2007 19:07:59 GMT 1, Or America's art scene is full of low brow idiots and hedge fund managers price-checking on ebay, whichever you prefer.
Edit: I was joking in case that wasn't clear.
Or America's art scene is full of low brow idiots and hedge fund managers price-checking on ebay, whichever you prefer.
Edit: I was joking in case that wasn't clear.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by lastpost on Nov 16, 2007 19:09:18 GMT 1, I think I'll take a shot at this: British people have bad teeth, drink warm beer, and smell like cabbage. ;D Good lord, there's some painful stereotyping on this thread. WTF......and americans are fat, stupid and in bed with their sister/mom??
dld's were random stereotypes though Rupert
I think I'll take a shot at this: British people have bad teeth, drink warm beer, and smell like cabbage. ;D Good lord, there's some painful stereotyping on this thread. WTF......and americans are fat, stupid and in bed with their sister/mom?? dld's were random stereotypes though Rupert |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 16, 2007 19:14:58 GMT 1, I used to own a HFUNG and Tokyo Girl, which I had to sell a few months back due to financial pressures, and the Laz prints are far far superior. Images aside, those Eyestorm prints are washed out and poor quality on poor paper. The Laz prints look like you could blow the chalk off the surface. You've got to be ok with having images of guns hanging on your wall of course, which isn't everyone's cup of tea, but they wipe the floor with the Eyestorm prints (21CL aside) IMO.
i've never had a colour eyestorm but i do have a peacekeeper and a shibuya crossing. i wouldn't say there is anything whatsoever poor quality about the S/C or the eyestorm ones in general but compared to the laz prints then yes, they do pale a little in comparison.
the laz ones re so vivid and clear and vibrant that you almost want to stroke them, that's where common sense comes in
admittedly my PK may not survive long term but in terms of quality i've never seen anything like it, the image was on antony's homepage for years and i liked it, i know plenty of others liked it and i actually never heard anyone slag it whilst it was up on there.
it does seem to me to be a bit of a bandwagon against recent laz release, i only liked two of them myself but i've seen far worse in my time and indeed worse from antony himself.
if people are going to slag him i'd rather to deconstructed his work and slag it bit by bit than just say "oh them laz prints are whack", qualify your comments with some substance and then there will be a lot of differing explanations to only two or three different opinions. i'm sure this forum could benefit at times from people taking the time to fully articulate themselves and debate the issues they raise and those raised by others.
sorry if that went in to a rant back there but there are scores of people with ton's of art and even more opinions, i would just love to know a bit more about how they end up with them and develop a greater understanding of why we all love what we love.
the end. 
I used to own a HFUNG and Tokyo Girl, which I had to sell a few months back due to financial pressures, and the Laz prints are far far superior. Images aside, those Eyestorm prints are washed out and poor quality on poor paper. The Laz prints look like you could blow the chalk off the surface. You've got to be ok with having images of guns hanging on your wall of course, which isn't everyone's cup of tea, but they wipe the floor with the Eyestorm prints (21CL aside) IMO. i've never had a colour eyestorm but i do have a peacekeeper and a shibuya crossing. i wouldn't say there is anything whatsoever poor quality about the S/C or the eyestorm ones in general but compared to the laz prints then yes, they do pale a little in comparison. the laz ones re so vivid and clear and vibrant that you almost want to stroke them, that's where common sense comes in admittedly my PK may not survive long term but in terms of quality i've never seen anything like it, the image was on antony's homepage for years and i liked it, i know plenty of others liked it and i actually never heard anyone slag it whilst it was up on there. it does seem to me to be a bit of a bandwagon against recent laz release, i only liked two of them myself but i've seen far worse in my time and indeed worse from antony himself. if people are going to slag him i'd rather to deconstructed his work and slag it bit by bit than just say "oh them laz prints are whack", qualify your comments with some substance and then there will be a lot of differing explanations to only two or three different opinions. i'm sure this forum could benefit at times from people taking the time to fully articulate themselves and debate the issues they raise and those raised by others. sorry if that went in to a rant back there but there are scores of people with ton's of art and even more opinions, i would just love to know a bit more about how they end up with them and develop a greater understanding of why we all love what we love. the end. |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 16, 2007 19:20:23 GMT 1, WTF......and americans are fat, stupid and in bed with their sister/mom??
sorry, i meant to modify this and accidently deleted it 
anyway, just to say this was also a joke, sorry if i offended you. don't know why, those that would be offended by it either can't be bothered to get up and go to a computer, don't know how to go to a computer or are in bed with their sister/mom.
WTF......and americans are fat, stupid and in bed with their sister/mom?? sorry, i meant to modify this and accidently deleted it anyway, just to say this was also a joke, sorry if i offended you. don't know why, those that would be offended by it either can't be bothered to get up and go to a computer, don't know how to go to a computer or are in bed with their sister/mom. |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by dld3t on Nov 16, 2007 19:27:56 GMT 1, No, not offended. I took the "WTF" and ?? as a signal of fiery British temper. ;D Your internet sarcasm is just drier than mine.
No, not offended. I took the "WTF" and ?? as a signal of fiery British temper. ;D Your internet sarcasm is just drier than mine. |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by Ripper1331 on Nov 16, 2007 19:51:41 GMT 1, There are a lot of Americans doing the street art but what I meant to get across was that it is not as popular with buyers here. I think the media hype that Banksy and others have created in Europe have given it awareness and credibility that isn't as present in the US.
The lowbrow movement died out here several years ago not sure why it is still thought to be as popular. Juxtapoz magazine was hyping this but they have recently switched to promoting urban art.
The US market is not as familiar with this type of work and very few people know who banksy is here in LA let alone Micallef or the others. "Street art" is not considered as viable here in the US and is also not mentioned nearly as much in the press. I would agree that most of the buyers are from the UK - I send about 90% of my prints over to the UK. But everyone is closing in on Christmas and holidays so the price drops and shuffling of prints is pretty normal for this time of year and not the sign of the end. Some of my favorite street artists (and among the best in the world) are American.... Futura2000 Stash Kaws David Choe Seen BAST Faile
There are a lot of Americans doing the street art but what I meant to get across was that it is not as popular with buyers here. I think the media hype that Banksy and others have created in Europe have given it awareness and credibility that isn't as present in the US. The lowbrow movement died out here several years ago not sure why it is still thought to be as popular. Juxtapoz magazine was hyping this but they have recently switched to promoting urban art. The US market is not as familiar with this type of work and very few people know who banksy is here in LA let alone Micallef or the others. "Street art" is not considered as viable here in the US and is also not mentioned nearly as much in the press. I would agree that most of the buyers are from the UK - I send about 90% of my prints over to the UK. But everyone is closing in on Christmas and holidays so the price drops and shuffling of prints is pretty normal for this time of year and not the sign of the end. Some of my favorite street artists (and among the best in the world) are American.... Futura2000 Stash Kaws David Choe Seen BAST Faile |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by Francis on Nov 16, 2007 19:58:49 GMT 1, Lowbrow is just too expensive. Not very many people can pay $500 for a Joe Sorren print or thousands for a Ryden or Rose Garcia.
Lowbrow is just too expensive. Not very many people can pay $500 for a Joe Sorren print or thousands for a Ryden or Rose Garcia.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by stuey09 on Nov 16, 2007 20:10:25 GMT 1, I used to own a HFUNG and Tokyo Girl, which I had to sell a few months back due to financial pressures, and the Laz prints are far far superior. Images aside, those Eyestorm prints are washed out and poor quality on poor paper. The Laz prints look like you could blow the chalk off the surface. You've got to be ok with having images of guns hanging on your wall of course, which isn't everyone's cup of tea, but they wipe the floor with the Eyestorm prints (21CL aside) IMO.
You've made a very valid point, the Laz prints are of a higher quality. Unfortunately, you can't just dismiss the images. The Eyestorm images are much stronger and therefore hold my attention far longer than the Laz prints, and it is the quality of the image that dictates whether something is hung on my walls.
I used to own a HFUNG and Tokyo Girl, which I had to sell a few months back due to financial pressures, and the Laz prints are far far superior. Images aside, those Eyestorm prints are washed out and poor quality on poor paper. The Laz prints look like you could blow the chalk off the surface. You've got to be ok with having images of guns hanging on your wall of course, which isn't everyone's cup of tea, but they wipe the floor with the Eyestorm prints (21CL aside) IMO. You've made a very valid point, the Laz prints are of a higher quality. Unfortunately, you can't just dismiss the images. The Eyestorm images are much stronger and therefore hold my attention far longer than the Laz prints, and it is the quality of the image that dictates whether something is hung on my walls. |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by afroken on Nov 16, 2007 20:15:44 GMT 1, Different strokes for different folks. I prefer the Laz ones having spent time staring at both these and the Eyestorm ones on my wall. But hey, I can't be doing with anything with cherubs or angels in (it's a personal thing in general) so maybe I'm just weird, and definitely not representative of the opinions on this forum. There were better colour images in LA though.
Different strokes for different folks. I prefer the Laz ones having spent time staring at both these and the Eyestorm ones on my wall. But hey, I can't be doing with anything with cherubs or angels in (it's a personal thing in general) so maybe I'm just weird, and definitely not representative of the opinions on this forum. There were better colour images in LA though.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by stuey09 on Nov 16, 2007 20:29:07 GMT 1, Different strokes for different folks. I prefer the Laz ones having spent time staring at both these and the Eyestorm ones on my wall. But hey, I can't be doing with anything with cherubs or angels in (it's a personal thing in general) so maybe I'm just weird, and definitely not representative of the opinions on this forum. There were better colour images in LA though.
Maybe, but it's only by having those different opinions on the forum that the debate stays fresh and stops us all becoming nodding dogs, so good on you.
Different strokes for different folks. I prefer the Laz ones having spent time staring at both these and the Eyestorm ones on my wall. But hey, I can't be doing with anything with cherubs or angels in (it's a personal thing in general) so maybe I'm just weird, and definitely not representative of the opinions on this forum. There were better colour images in LA though. Maybe, but it's only by having those different opinions on the forum that the debate stays fresh and stops us all becoming nodding dogs, so good on you. |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by afroken on Nov 26, 2007 19:06:43 GMT 1, Not sure if this is the member of the band that reportedly bought the original canvases, but could this have been the end for Improvised Minotaur and Uzi Lovers:
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7113043.stm
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by jam on Nov 26, 2007 19:15:33 GMT 1, From what I was told, Anthony Kiedis was the one who bought the Improvised Minotaur and Uzi Lovers, but Flea was there as well so who knows for sure. The positive thing, is the house that burned wasn't one he lived in... he bought the other house awhile back and thats his primary home now so if he did buy the Micallefs or had them at his place, it likely wouldn't have been the one that burned.
From what I was told, Anthony Kiedis was the one who bought the Improvised Minotaur and Uzi Lovers, but Flea was there as well so who knows for sure. The positive thing, is the house that burned wasn't one he lived in... he bought the other house awhile back and thats his primary home now so if he did buy the Micallefs or had them at his place, it likely wouldn't have been the one that burned.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by bobbymeachamjr on Nov 26, 2007 19:17:28 GMT 1, whatever happened to the thousands of posts regarding "micallef bigger than banksy" "micallef bargain @5k gbp" "price down turn is nonsense talk" ? All the pimps did there pump and dump and are nowhere to be found...
whatever happened to the thousands of posts regarding "micallef bigger than banksy" "micallef bargain @5k gbp" "price down turn is nonsense talk" ? All the pimps did there pump and dump and are nowhere to be found...
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stuey09
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by stuey09 on Nov 26, 2007 19:28:25 GMT 1, whatever happened to the thousands of posts regarding "micallef bigger than banksy" "micallef bargain @5k gbp" "price down turn is nonsense talk" ? All the pimps did there pump and dump and are nowhere to be found...
I don't recall thousands of people claiming AM was bigger than Banksy Bobby. Who asserted this?
whatever happened to the thousands of posts regarding "micallef bigger than banksy" "micallef bargain @5k gbp" "price down turn is nonsense talk" ? All the pimps did there pump and dump and are nowhere to be found... I don't recall thousands of people claiming AM was bigger than Banksy Bobby. Who asserted this? |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by bobbymeachamjr on Nov 26, 2007 19:44:53 GMT 1, stuey lets not take it literally but there were large #s of posts (or should i say discussions) regarding micallef being the $$$$greatest thing$$$$ since slice bread. I still think hes a fantastic artist but it was all about money this past summer.
stuey lets not take it literally but there were large #s of posts (or should i say discussions) regarding micallef being the $$$$greatest thing$$$$ since slice bread. I still think hes a fantastic artist but it was all about money this past summer.
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stuey09
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by stuey09 on Nov 26, 2007 19:48:50 GMT 1, stuey lets not take it literally but there were large #s of posts (or should i say discussions) regarding micallef being the $$$$greatest thing$$$$ since slice bread. I still think hes a fantastic artist but it was all about money this past summer.
There was some genuie praise of AM this year and a lot of it justified. The few who were doing it for dubious financial reasons were quite transparent. My advice would be not to take them too literally
stuey lets not take it literally but there were large #s of posts (or should i say discussions) regarding micallef being the $$$$greatest thing$$$$ since slice bread. I still think hes a fantastic artist but it was all about money this past summer. There was some genuie praise of AM this year and a lot of it justified. The few who were doing it for dubious financial reasons were quite transparent. My advice would be not to take them too literally |
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by Chuck D on Nov 26, 2007 20:08:37 GMT 1, 21st CG and the Laz edition of 50 are some of the best images ever created by AM. He is without a doubt, one of the most skilled artists out there right now.
It's disheartening to see the fence riding collectors, or shall I say flippers, turn so quickly.
21st CG and the Laz edition of 50 are some of the best images ever created by AM. He is without a doubt, one of the most skilled artists out there right now.
It's disheartening to see the fence riding collectors, or shall I say flippers, turn so quickly.
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by Simococo on Nov 26, 2007 20:24:38 GMT 1, when you sell hundreds of prints in one go that exclusive feeling slips away. The editions of 50 are great images but most people didn't even consider them as they were 4.5k. Very talented artist all the same
when you sell hundreds of prints in one go that exclusive feeling slips away. The editions of 50 are great images but most people didn't even consider them as they were 4.5k. Very talented artist all the same
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Micallef Show = straw that broke the camel's back?, by northern sole on Nov 26, 2007 23:07:17 GMT 1, the prices for the prints were market value,the images in the flesh are great, the editions are huge, flippers cant make quick profit, many people can own a signed micallef, who has lost out? people trying to make a fast buck from antonys undoubted talent ! lesson learned?
the prices for the prints were market value,the images in the flesh are great, the editions are huge, flippers cant make quick profit, many people can own a signed micallef, who has lost out? people trying to make a fast buck from antonys undoubted talent ! lesson learned?
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but the number of times I hear about American artists that are just about scraping along, and they get mentioned on here, and within a few days their website is crashing and the orders are flooding in 
But it certainly appears to me that the UK buyers are controlling the game ;D For how long? 
