Pure Evil
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Pure Evil on Jun 20, 2014 16:33:15 GMT 1, Thomas Hilmersson is represented by Walton Fine Arts , home of Bambi
Thomas Hilmersson is represented by Walton Fine Arts , home of Bambi
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 17:21:35 GMT 1, Walton Fine Arts does have some very nice Wesselman and Bacon prints for sale.
Walton Fine Arts does have some very nice Wesselman and Bacon prints for sale.
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johnnyh
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by johnnyh on Jul 5, 2014 10:12:01 GMT 1, Terrible shame. It's so easy to read and think (no offense intended) how daft...but shows how easy it is to be swindled.
Must say that's why I hate ebay, and the likes of WCP and all these fakes and forgeries really do contribute to these problems.
Walton Fine Arts figures as well.
Good luck and hope you get your money back PE. This should be a lesson to us all on being careful where we source pieces as I would suspect PE has a lot more buying experience than most of us.
Also must commend you on going public with this PE rather than trying to pass them on which happens so often.
Terrible shame. It's so easy to read and think (no offense intended) how daft...but shows how easy it is to be swindled.
Must say that's why I hate ebay, and the likes of WCP and all these fakes and forgeries really do contribute to these problems.
Walton Fine Arts figures as well.
Good luck and hope you get your money back PE. This should be a lesson to us all on being careful where we source pieces as I would suspect PE has a lot more buying experience than most of us.
Also must commend you on going public with this PE rather than trying to pass them on which happens so often.
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 11:02:43 GMT 1, Thomas Hilmersson is represented by Walton Fine Arts , home of Bambi Some good detective work on your part about the ebay seller.
Not sure about the legalities though as some of his listings were listed as "manner of" which as a professional you would be aware of the auction terms and legalities and know what you are buying.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Keith-Haring-Subway-porcelain-sign-Andy-warhol-Banksy-/161334446694?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item2590484a66
Ebay has a lot of crap with the words added, "manner of" or sold "as is" or "school of" etc etc and why would anyone list a genuine artwork thats potentially worth thousands on ebay and let it go for a fraction of it's potential value if it was authentic.
Surely people read the descriptions before they buy anything?
I agree that using the word "attributed" is very misleading as a recognised expert in an artist would be qualified to attribute to an artist not the seller.
It's all interesting and the number of buyers of crap off ebay for a few quid who go running to Sothebys etc with it hoping they can make a big profit only to be told it's worthless and then go asking for their money back is something that ebay needs to address and sort out.
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/features/the-great-online-art-illusion-a-cautionary-tale-9585690.html
""Mr Uzzell-Edwards said: โWe sent a letter to Maske two weeks ago saying: โPay us back or elseโ. Nothing happened so I sent a strongly phrased letter along the lines of โif youโve seen Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men, Iโm going to do that until you end up in prisonโ.โ
The full amount was finally returned on Wednesday, and Mr Uzzell-Edwards decided against going to the police. The imitation works remain in storage.""
""if youโve seen Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men, Iโm going to do that until you end up in prisonโ.โ"
WTF does that mean you were going to turn up with a bad hair do and deep voice?
Why are the works in storage, why didn't you destroy or burn them?
Just curious and when buying off eBay always make sure you read and understand the descriptions and f it's a well known artist and looks too good to be true then it is.
Thomas Hilmersson is represented by Walton Fine Arts , home of Bambi Some good detective work on your part about the ebay seller.
Not sure about the legalities though as some of his listings were listed as "manner of" which as a professional you would be aware of the auction terms and legalities and know what you are buying.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Keith-Haring-Subway-porcelain-sign-Andy-warhol-Banksy-/161334446694?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item2590484a66
Ebay has a lot of crap with the words added, "manner of" or sold "as is" or "school of" etc etc and why would anyone list a genuine artwork thats potentially worth thousands on ebay and let it go for a fraction of it's potential value if it was authentic.
Surely people read the descriptions before they buy anything?
I agree that using the word "attributed" is very misleading as a recognised expert in an artist would be qualified to attribute to an artist not the seller.
It's all interesting and the number of buyers of crap off ebay for a few quid who go running to Sothebys etc with it hoping they can make a big profit only to be told it's worthless and then go asking for their money back is something that ebay needs to address and sort out.
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/features/the-great-online-art-illusion-a-cautionary-tale-9585690.html
""Mr Uzzell-Edwards said: โWe sent a letter to Maske two weeks ago saying: โPay us back or elseโ. Nothing happened so I sent a strongly phrased letter along the lines of โif youโve seen Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men, Iโm going to do that until you end up in prisonโ.โ
The full amount was finally returned on Wednesday, and Mr Uzzell-Edwards decided against going to the police. The imitation works remain in storage.""
""if youโve seen Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men, Iโm going to do that until you end up in prisonโ.โ"
WTF does that mean you were going to turn up with a bad hair do and deep voice?
Why are the works in storage, why didn't you destroy or burn them?
Just curious and when buying off eBay always make sure you read and understand the descriptions and f it's a well known artist and looks too good to be true then it is.
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 14:25:52 GMT 1, Highly recommend submitting any Warhol or Haring auction listing to PSA/DNA for their online Quick Opinion.
48 hour turnaround time in most cases. $10 for eBay, $15 for other auction sites in my experience.
(I mean for the 5-10% that are not obviously so off you can smell the stink through your monitor.)
Highly recommend submitting any Warhol or Haring auction listing to PSA/DNA for their online Quick Opinion.
48 hour turnaround time in most cases. $10 for eBay, $15 for other auction sites in my experience.
(I mean for the 5-10% that are not obviously so off you can smell the stink through your monitor.)
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 16:28:52 GMT 1, Highly recommend submitting any Warhol or Haring auction listing to PSA/DNA for their online Quick Opinion. 48 hour turnaround time in most cases. $10 for eBay, $15 for other auction sites in my experience. (I mean for the 5-10% that are not obviously so off you can smell the stink through your monitor.)
Agreed. But they only authenticate signed items, correct?
Highly recommend submitting any Warhol or Haring auction listing to PSA/DNA for their online Quick Opinion. 48 hour turnaround time in most cases. $10 for eBay, $15 for other auction sites in my experience. (I mean for the 5-10% that are not obviously so off you can smell the stink through your monitor.) Agreed. But they only authenticate signed items, correct? |
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 2:45:48 GMT 1, Yes. I'm guessing they can mainly authenticate the signature itself, but I am not sure what the authentication covers.
Seems it would be possible for someone to buy, say, an authentic Warhol or Haring signature on a catalog or paper, get that authenticated, and then later draw a sketch on it. Would have an authenticated piece with a fraudulent drawing!
Kind of the reverse of buying an unsigned Banksy image and faking the signature.
Also, the Quick Opinion is not ironclad nor binding, rather can confirm or refute your suspicions. They grade an item: Likely Genuine; Likely Not Genuine; Unable to Render an Opinion (for which they refund your money).
Meaning that if they saw the item in person, based on the photos of the item, there is a very high chance they would grade it as such with official documentation.
Yes. I'm guessing they can mainly authenticate the signature itself, but I am not sure what the authentication covers.
Seems it would be possible for someone to buy, say, an authentic Warhol or Haring signature on a catalog or paper, get that authenticated, and then later draw a sketch on it. Would have an authenticated piece with a fraudulent drawing!
Kind of the reverse of buying an unsigned Banksy image and faking the signature.
Also, the Quick Opinion is not ironclad nor binding, rather can confirm or refute your suspicions. They grade an item: Likely Genuine; Likely Not Genuine; Unable to Render an Opinion (for which they refund your money).
Meaning that if they saw the item in person, based on the photos of the item, there is a very high chance they would grade it as such with official documentation.
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lvanhoe
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by lvanhoe on Aug 5, 2014 14:43:04 GMT 1, Can anyone tell me a bit more about this? Does this work like any online auction?
Can anyone tell me a bit more about this? Does this work like any online auction?
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 14:59:44 GMT 1,
Register and begin the adventure.
www.artnet.com/auctions/
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beenrhymin
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by beenrhymin on Aug 5, 2014 15:14:13 GMT 1, its actually better to contact the specialists.... Alex for prints, Gracie or Brittany for originals.....
its actually better to contact the specialists.... Alex for prints, Gracie or Brittany for originals.....
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 19:29:34 GMT 1, 
Who is this Bansky guy?
.... lol
Who is this Bansky guy? .... lol |
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daveart
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by daveart on Sept 12, 2014 13:53:28 GMT 1, interesting to have a few Keith Harings - one signed - one estate signed - next to some Banksy prints mostly unsigned but one signed..
and is that crazy money for the invader print already or am i that far behind on invader pricing.. quite obviously i sold my invaders too soon and for not enough.. live and learn
interesting to have a few Keith Harings - one signed - one estate signed - next to some Banksy prints mostly unsigned but one signed..
and is that crazy money for the invader print already or am i that far behind on invader pricing.. quite obviously i sold my invaders too soon and for not enough.. live and learn
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beenrhymin
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by beenrhymin on Sept 15, 2014 17:39:41 GMT 1, what? all the ones i've seen there are signed, except the grannies.... daveart
what? all the ones i've seen there are signed, except the grannies.... daveart |
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daveart
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by daveart on Sept 16, 2014 14:09:16 GMT 1, good point.. beenrhmymin -- i must have scanned too quickly.. grannies and cnd soldiers unsigned. monkey queen, cyw, grin reaper signed..
good point.. beenrhmymin -- i must have scanned too quickly.. grannies and cnd soldiers unsigned. monkey queen, cyw, grin reaper signed..
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 14:34:13 GMT 1, Quite a few have no bids at all.
Quite a few have no bids at all.
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skynet
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by skynet on Sept 16, 2014 17:08:29 GMT 1, Invader prices have risen considerably, along with most other POW represented artists.
Invader prices have risen considerably, along with most other POW represented artists.
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Rsyok
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Rsyok on Sept 16, 2014 18:15:47 GMT 1, Invader prices have risen considerably, along with most other POW represented artists.
Did anyone watch the Home print did it finish at $2000? The Japan kit sold for $1700.
Invader prices have risen considerably, along with most other POW represented artists. Did anyone watch the Home print did it finish at $2000? The Japan kit sold for $1700. |
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beenrhymin
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by beenrhymin on Sept 16, 2014 19:21:19 GMT 1, Quite a few have no bids at all.
CYW went for 28K
CND 7,500
Grin Reaper for 12K
Other side for 11K
Monkey Queen for 15,500
Grannies for 5,500
thats all i recorded....
Quite a few have no bids at all. i was watching, everything sold very well, only the fairey's and that el mac didnt sell.... CYW went for 28K CND 7,500 Grin Reaper for 12K Other side for 11K Monkey Queen for 15,500 Grannies for 5,500 thats all i recorded.... |
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DrWhite
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by DrWhite on Sept 16, 2014 19:39:27 GMT 1, Quite a few have no bids at all. i was watching, everything sold very well, only the fairey's and that el mac didnt sell.... CYW went for 28K CND 7,500 Grin Reaper for 12K Other side for 11K Monkey Queen for 15,500 Grannies for 5,500 thats all i recorded....
Quite a few have no bids at all. i was watching, everything sold very well, only the fairey's and that el mac didnt sell.... CYW went for 28K CND 7,500 Grin Reaper for 12K Other side for 11K Monkey Queen for 15,500 Grannies for 5,500 thats all i recorded.... Are these hammer or do they include fees? |
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beenrhymin
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by beenrhymin on Sept 16, 2014 21:37:20 GMT 1, include fees, but i rounded some of them off....
include fees, but i rounded some of them off....
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beenrhymin
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by beenrhymin on Sept 16, 2014 21:38:13 GMT 1, hammers were:
CYW went for 23K
CND 6,600
Grin Reaper for 10K
Other side for 9,400K
Monkey Queen for 13
Grannies for 4,700
hammers were:
CYW went for 23K
CND 6,600
Grin Reaper for 10K
Other side for 9,400K
Monkey Queen for 13
Grannies for 4,700
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DrWhite
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by DrWhite on Sept 16, 2014 21:56:34 GMT 1, include fees, but i rounded some of them off....
include fees, but i rounded some of them off.... Thanks beenrhymin |
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skynet
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by skynet on Sept 18, 2014 4:50:09 GMT 1, What did the Invader Home Earth fetch? Last I saw was about $3,300 including fees.
What did the Invader Home Earth fetch? Last I saw was about $3,300 including fees.
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daveart
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by daveart on Sept 18, 2014 15:30:33 GMT 1, $3,300 for an invader home earth .. my . my . my .. well done for some lucky people that bought em and held em .. i had a good number at one point and decided they just weren't for me.. looked too kid like .. i mean its from a video game right! wtf .. i seriously gave two of them away as christmas presents !
$3,300 for an invader home earth .. my . my . my .. well done for some lucky people that bought em and held em .. i had a good number at one point and decided they just weren't for me.. looked too kid like .. i mean its from a video game right! wtf .. i seriously gave two of them away as christmas presents !
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South Bound
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by South Bound on Sept 18, 2014 15:40:18 GMT 1, $3,300 for an invader home earth .. my . my . my .. well done for some lucky people that bought em and held em .. i had a good number at one point and decided they just weren't for me.. looked too kid like .. i mean its from a video game right! wtf .. i seriously gave two of them away as christmas presents !
How do I get on your christmas list?
$3,300 for an invader home earth .. my . my . my .. well done for some lucky people that bought em and held em .. i had a good number at one point and decided they just weren't for me.. looked too kid like .. i mean its from a video game right! wtf .. i seriously gave two of them away as christmas presents ! How do I get on your christmas list? |
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daveart
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by daveart on Sept 18, 2014 15:59:52 GMT 1, sure Bales - join the family !! the more the merrier !  I think those first round of invaders were maybe $300 at POW ? cant recall... gave them to my brother for holiday two years in a row.. i think he gave me a nice sweatshirt. so . it's all good. ha! i know there are guys on the forum that collected up every edition... that's getting to be a pretty pricey little collection now.
sure Bales - join the family !! the more the merrier ! I think those first round of invaders were maybe $300 at POW ? cant recall... gave them to my brother for holiday two years in a row.. i think he gave me a nice sweatshirt. so . it's all good. ha! i know there are guys on the forum that collected up every edition... that's getting to be a pretty pricey little collection now. |
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South Bound
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by South Bound on Sept 18, 2014 17:35:59 GMT 1, sure Bales - join the family !! the more the merrier ! I think those first round of invaders were maybe $300 at POW ? cant recall... gave them to my brother for holiday two years in a row.. i think he gave me a nice sweatshirt. so . it's all good. ha! i know there are guys on the forum that collected up every edition... that's getting to be a pretty pricey little collection now.
Tell me who to marry! 
PS. Don't tell my wife.
sure Bales - join the family !! the more the merrier ! I think those first round of invaders were maybe $300 at POW ? cant recall... gave them to my brother for holiday two years in a row.. i think he gave me a nice sweatshirt. so . it's all good. ha! i know there are guys on the forum that collected up every edition... that's getting to be a pretty pricey little collection now. Tell me who to marry! PS. Don't tell my wife. |
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Artnet Auctions ๐บ๐ฒ, by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 14:32:38 GMT 1, Did the Brainwash stuff also sell?
The latest auction his stuff is getting very high bids.
Did the Brainwash stuff also sell?
The latest auction his stuff is getting very high bids.
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aumi
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I think those first round of invaders were maybe $300 at POW ? cant recall... gave them to my brother for holiday two years in a row.. i think he gave me a nice sweatshirt. so . it's all good. ha! i know there are guys on the forum that collected up every edition... that's getting to be a pretty pricey little collection now.
