Explain to me again how the American Government deliberately orchestrated the global recession during an election year? I know that W was more than a little evil and just plain dumb, but I don't see the "big" picture that you're referring too?

IMO

I see Labour and the Liberals joining up in the next election.

Libs wanted 50% on high earners, then allow 11% for national insurance thats gonna be 61% FECCCCCCCCCCCK THAT

Im sure alot of the people earning the big money will be safe and sound and continue to pay bugger all.
They were paying bugger all @ 51% do you honestly think there gonna start paying @ 61%

The ones most effected and once told we'd look after you is the lower/middle class.

2p on petrol
2% rise on tobacco
2% on booze

The countrys fooked

I forgot to add, i think we shoudl be more like australia.
Unless your bringing soemthing to the country your basiclly not allowed in.
I dont beleive i should be paying for arseholes to come into the country, gain residency, get a gaff, weekly salary (giro) and the same for the donkeys who have always lived in this country, why should they sit on there arse all day, watch jeremy kyle get the weekly wage.

what has really got my hair on my back crawling is that when people ar eliving a life they know they cant afford every bloody thing on finance.
I remeber when i was @ the brp chairty show and they was amazed to me paying for my bits and pieces by cash, the bird was an AMATURE (Sorry if your ready this) to counting money, i guess shes just use to swipin mastercard/visa along a machine.

I remember that exact moment FX congrats it was only £175? for the monkey triangle thing?
Now we're not talking house prices are we?

Junkie art, i didnt just buy the triangle and like you say i spent bugger all. I think it come in at just over £1000 and still like you say little money but the look on the face as ermmmmmmmmm wheres the card.. im so glad i didnt but the dface piece she would have been there all day counting 6k, bless her!

FX you where selling it on the bay for £250 buy it now, not good business in my eyes?

i didnt just buy that piece at the show junkie art, i bought a few pieces.

There are such things as 'debit' cards, which are not reliant on the borrowing of money, as opposed to 'credit' cards. In fact even credit cards can have a positive balance on them in some circumstances.

Also, cash can be withdrawn from a credit card account, so paying by cash does not immediately equal not 'on finance'.

It's very simple FX - if you owe £100 to your credit card supplier, and you send them £200, your card will be £100 in credit.

Another example for you FX - You pay for a print with your credit card, then pay off the outstanding amount when you have the money available. For whatever reason you send the print back and you get a refund onto the card, therefore a positive balance is returned to the card because you have already paid off the debt.

Yes you are right it is 'quite stupid' as you most likely get zero interest on it, but it can happen.

I think people who complain about the budget need to also have some sort of explanation of what they would propose. Clearly Darling has not wanted to raise tax, put 2p on the fuel, make you pay more for your smokes etc. But he has HAD to. The recession has been an absolute kick in the teeth fueled by the media and no matter who was in 'power' they would've had the same problem.

We have to cut public spending and we have to raise taxes in order to get national debt down and no matter what anyone says we all have to eat a big piece of shitpie and work hard to fix this.

Personally I think this Gov has done a great job considering the circumstances. I love the way how the news is portraying this and giving airtime to all the critics but what do they propose? what would they do? It's laughable opposition parties saying how bad it is that taxes are being raised and that spending is being cut. How the hell would they try to make up the shortfall caused by the massive drop in public income from the banking and housing industry?? Not to mention being forced to buy and bailout some of the major financial institutions to stop total meltdown and to offer us £2000 to buy a new car etc etc etc. This money has to come form somewhere.

It's easier to paint the whole thing with a dirty brush and complain but solutions are always shortcoming. We want better housing, policing, health care, income support and we want lower taxes and all of this during a recession.

As if the conservatives would have steered clear of this mess.

You say the people who complain about this budget should have some sort of explanation , but thats why we elect them
You dont buy a dog and then bark yourself

the reason so called aresholes come to our country , mainly legally is opportunity . look at the indian and pakistani population for example . in my home town glasgow ( mostly inhabited by junkies / poor / unemployed ) if it wasnt for the immigrants we would not have stores / businesses in many fo the areas where white people were too lazy or scared to open a shop.
also many of the BRITISH EMPIRES conquests were plundered for the wealth we lived off until recently ! we owe a lot to many many countries for our standard of living ........we caused the wars in many of the other places such as afghanistan ,iraq . and in days gone by half of africa/asia ............can you blame them for heading here ? we installed saddam / shah of iran / partitioned palestine / armed the taliban against soviets.........

i agree people in this country live beyond their means - my postman drives a range rover !!!! and now we have to bail them out of their mortgages .........i rent !

This country has had it good for most of the last hundred or so years But things have changed, places like India & China will run the world in the future, and this country has to get used to the idea We need to adapt and create a new role for ourselves in the world.

We are gonna get swamped by people coming here for work thinking we are the place to be ;D How wrong could they be! Give it another 10 years and Britain will be the last place in the world people will want to move to.