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Banksy in Los Angeles, by Reverend Tonezone on Apr 14, 2010 17:10:39 GMT 1, Damn, sucks it's already gone.
Thanks for the pics and videos foreman!
Damn, sucks it's already gone.
Thanks for the pics and videos foreman!
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by mj on Apr 14, 2010 20:46:21 GMT 1, Hi wilfsboy, any chance in email me a high res photos of the LA pieces for my collection and I can send u few of mine?
cheers
Hi wilfsboy, any chance in email me a high res photos of the LA pieces for my collection and I can send u few of mine?
cheers
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by dynamixx on Apr 14, 2010 20:53:24 GMT 1, not stolen.... I have a video of the guys taking the piece away. I know who did it and why =) JSG?
Hmmmm
not stolen.... I have a video of the guys taking the piece away. I know who did it and why =) JSG? Hmmmm |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by dynamixx on Apr 14, 2010 21:00:09 GMT 1, "Our friend Banksy" he says in the above post. JSG may well be linked to from a whole load of blogs / twitter accounts now because of his "exclusive footage", and we're then in dangerous territory of him getting credibility (outside of forums). If you have the means to promote the truth anywhere else, please do. He's already been linked to by upperplayground, and not in a negative way.
From Daniel Lahoda:
Maybe you should have thought about that when flipping countless Gold flags from SG07 Daniel, and ripping off countless people over the years?
"Our friend Banksy" he says in the above post. JSG may well be linked to from a whole load of blogs / twitter accounts now because of his "exclusive footage", and we're then in dangerous territory of him getting credibility (outside of forums). If you have the means to promote the truth anywhere else, please do. He's already been linked to by upperplayground, and not in a negative way.
From Daniel Lahoda:
Maybe you should have thought about that when flipping countless Gold flags from SG07 Daniel, and ripping off countless people over the years?
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by lifeonwalls on Apr 14, 2010 21:03:53 GMT 1, Who is this Doug Christmas fellow and how does JSG know it was him?
Who is this Doug Christmas fellow and how does JSG know it was him?
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by highinla on Apr 14, 2010 21:06:29 GMT 1, Who is this Doug Christmas fellow and how does JSG know it was him?
you should read the post...
Who is this Doug Christmas fellow and how does JSG know it was him? you should read the post... |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by lifeonwalls on Apr 14, 2010 21:09:53 GMT 1, yep, found that after going over to jetset.
freaking LA..
yep, found that after going over to jetset.
freaking LA..
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by spirit on Apr 14, 2010 21:13:07 GMT 1,
"Famous for treating his bills as if they didn’t exist"
sounds like someone else...
"Famous for treating his bills as if they didn’t exist" sounds like someone else... |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by Mason Storm on Apr 14, 2010 21:50:06 GMT 1, So that where he got to......I lost him at Heathrow, darn it!
So that where he got to......I lost him at Heathrow, darn it!
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by Mason Storm on Apr 14, 2010 21:50:25 GMT 1, Just kidding chaps!
Just kidding chaps!
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by wimpy on Apr 14, 2010 21:54:06 GMT 1, So the guy who owns the property took it down and has it? It was okay for that theater in Utah but not okay in this case?
And I assume he means "it isn't on his website yet" when he says "the artist never confirmed the work was his".
So the guy who owns the property took it down and has it? It was okay for that theater in Utah but not okay in this case?
And I assume he means "it isn't on his website yet" when he says "the artist never confirmed the work was his".
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by inshallah on Apr 14, 2010 22:02:38 GMT 1, From Daniel Lahoda: Maybe you should have thought about that when flipping countless Gold flags from SG07 Daniel, and ripping off countless people over the years?
Well, he did go to Palestine with Ron English and Swoon as a guest of Banksy, and he was able to buy multiple copies of the print directly from Banksy, and, to be clear, he just bought them and the Palestinians sold them to raise money for themselves. A family raised enough money to buy their property back from The Israeli's who stole it, thanks to this man that you all despise so deeply.
That's the truth; and anyone here would trust the source, believe me.
Y'all need to slow your roll and find a new person to hate on... LA Art Fraud Department? What a joke; It's been months since that was announced... Where's the mugshot, you fucking trolls.
Lahoda has done more for the scene than any of you little internet wizards could ever conjure up in your imaginations...
Don't let yourself be manipulated. Support good work, or shut the fuck up already.
This is my first post under a second name... Anonymous Meet Anonymous. These latest accusations just really made my blood boil...
From Daniel Lahoda: Maybe you should have thought about that when flipping countless Gold flags from SG07 Daniel, and ripping off countless people over the years? Well, he did go to Palestine with Ron English and Swoon as a guest of Banksy, and he was able to buy multiple copies of the print directly from Banksy, and, to be clear, he just bought them and the Palestinians sold them to raise money for themselves. A family raised enough money to buy their property back from The Israeli's who stole it, thanks to this man that you all despise so deeply. That's the truth; and anyone here would trust the source, believe me. Y'all need to slow your roll and find a new person to hate on... LA Art Fraud Department? What a joke; It's been months since that was announced... Where's the mugshot, you fucking trolls. Lahoda has done more for the scene than any of you little internet wizards could ever conjure up in your imaginations... Don't let yourself be manipulated. Support good work, or shut the fuck up already. This is my first post under a second name... Anonymous Meet Anonymous. These latest accusations just really made my blood boil... |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by blitsu on Apr 14, 2010 22:12:50 GMT 1, Well, he did go to Palestine with Ron English and Swoon as a guest of Banksy, and he was able to buy multiple copies of the print directly from Banksy,
I don't really comment too much around here but you're just talking shit. He didn't go as a guest of Banksy and he didn't buy multiple prints directly from Banksy.
We're not ALL as green as we're cabbage looking - some of us do know a little about this mad, bad world we call art collecting and the people involved.
Well, he did go to Palestine with Ron English and Swoon as a guest of Banksy, and he was able to buy multiple copies of the print directly from Banksy, I don't really comment too much around here but you're just talking s hi t. He didn't go as a guest of Banksy and he didn't buy multiple prints directly from Banksy. We're not ALL as green as we're cabbage looking - some of us do know a little about this mad, bad world we call art collecting and the people involved. |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by monkeyart on Apr 14, 2010 22:17:46 GMT 1, I hear the latest missing Banksy might be found out the ACE gallery LA.
But at the moment its not confirmed as a Banksy!
I hear the latest missing Banksy might be found out the ACE gallery LA.
But at the moment its not confirmed as a Banksy!
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by monkeyart on Apr 14, 2010 22:27:21 GMT 1, Here you go -
JetSet Graffiti has confirmed through a business partner of Banksy’s that it was the infamous Doug Christmas of Ace Gallery in Los Angeles that organized the removal and impending unauthorized sale of the artwork.
Famous for treating his bills as if they didn’t exist; Since 1976, Christmas has been sued 55 times by artists, other dealers and art collectors, according to a profile in 2009 in the LA Weekly.
According to the source of the anonymous video, “I asked the workers what they were doing with it, and they said they were hired to remove it, and that it would go into a ‘big collection of art’. We all know that this piece is currently being offered for sale through Ace.”
Ummm
Here you go -
JetSet Graffiti has confirmed through a business partner of Banksy’s that it was the infamous Doug Christmas of Ace Gallery in Los Angeles that organized the removal and impending unauthorized sale of the artwork.
Famous for treating his bills as if they didn’t exist; Since 1976, Christmas has been sued 55 times by artists, other dealers and art collectors, according to a profile in 2009 in the LA Weekly.
According to the source of the anonymous video, “I asked the workers what they were doing with it, and they said they were hired to remove it, and that it would go into a ‘big collection of art’. We all know that this piece is currently being offered for sale through Ace.”
Ummm
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by monkeyart on Apr 14, 2010 22:28:31 GMT 1, Christmas sounds very much like JSG to me?
Christmas sounds very much like JSG to me?
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by wimpy on Apr 14, 2010 22:31:01 GMT 1, Talk about PARANOID pictures... this all looks like a big setup. 
Talk about PARANOID pictures... this all looks like a big setup. |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by inshallah on Apr 14, 2010 22:36:22 GMT 1, I don't really comment too much around here but you're just talking s hi t. He didn't go as a guest of Banksy and he didn't buy multiple prints directly from Banksy. We're not ALL as green as we're cabbage looking - some of us do know a little about this mad, bad world we call art collecting and the people involved.
That's where you're wrong. They paid for his flight and shit, and he flew over to help Ron English. Swoon had her assistant with her as well. Each artist was allowed to bring one other person. Lahoda hijacks billboards with English and other artists all the time, so it's logical.
He didn't buy the prints directly from Banksy, they were purchased from POW, technically. Besides, the facts are that he helps people.
Go suck a dick.
I don't really comment too much around here but you're just talking s hi t. He didn't go as a guest of Banksy and he didn't buy multiple prints directly from Banksy. We're not ALL as green as we're cabbage looking - some of us do know a little about this mad, bad world we call art collecting and the people involved. That's where you're wrong. They paid for his flight and shit, and he flew over to help Ron English. Swoon had her assistant with her as well. Each artist was allowed to bring one other person. Lahoda hijacks billboards with English and other artists all the time, so it's logical. He didn't buy the prints directly from Banksy, they were purchased from POW, technically. Besides, the facts are that he helps people. Go suck a dick. |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by streetartisdead on Apr 14, 2010 22:43:00 GMT 1,
awe inspiring response
so reading between the lines, the stencil was on property owned by Doug, so Banksy would've asked permission...?
awe inspiring response so reading between the lines, the stencil was on property owned by Doug, so Banksy would've asked permission...? |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by tonysantos2001 on Apr 14, 2010 22:49:56 GMT 1, this is all starting t get veeeeerrrryyyy interesting!
As i always say "The rabbit hole goes deeper than you could possibly ever imagine!"
this is all starting t get veeeeerrrryyyy interesting!
As i always say "The rabbit hole goes deeper than you could possibly ever imagine!"
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by monkeyart on Apr 14, 2010 22:53:12 GMT 1, OR -
The phone number connects to Ace Gallery, Los Angeles. Gallery Owner Doug Christmas confirmed via phone to Daniel Lahoda that the piece was in his gallerie’s possession, however Mr. Christmas has “not decided how much to sell it for, or even if we are going to sell it at all.”
Our take on this mess? Glad you asked:
“Do NOT support this sale; the artist never confirmed the work was his, and the piece is now considered counterfeit. Look, if these wealthy gallerists and collectors are going to try and use an artist’s hard work to make money, they will do it on his terms, not off his back. It makes sense for the artist to distance himself from the work now. Banksy never confirmed it was his to begin with, so Ace Gallery and every other greedy art-star fucker can piss off. The irony of it all is that the boys who play the “art is exclusive” BS game so well are now being pushed out by their own rules of engagement so they have to resort to “stealing” the work. They can own the art all they want; but they’ll never own the street.” -Daniel Lahoda, Owner, www.jetsetgraffiti.con
OR - The phone number connects to Ace Gallery, Los Angeles. Gallery Owner Doug Christmas confirmed via phone to Daniel Lahoda that the piece was in his gallerie’s possession, however Mr. Christmas has “not decided how much to sell it for, or even if we are going to sell it at all.” Our take on this mess? Glad you asked: “Do NOT support this sale; the artist never confirmed the work was his, and the piece is now considered counterfeit. Look, if these wealthy gallerists and collectors are going to try and use an artist’s hard work to make money, they will do it on his terms, not off his back. It makes sense for the artist to distance himself from the work now. Banksy never confirmed it was his to begin with, so Ace Gallery and every other greedy art-star fucker can piss off. The irony of it all is that the boys who play the “art is exclusive” BS game so well are now being pushed out by their own rules of engagement so they have to resort to “stealing” the work. They can own the art all they want; but they’ll never own the street.” -Daniel Lahoda, Owner, www.jetsetgraffiti.con |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by blitsu on Apr 14, 2010 22:59:29 GMT 1, That's where you're wrong. They paid for his flight and s**t, and he flew over to help Ron English.
Exactly, little man - he flew over with Ron English as his bitch. Not Banksy's guest, not buying through Banksy. Flew in with Ron English and was thought of as Ron's bitch by all who met him.
But, hey, carry on. It's all part of that marvellous Lahoda sevice and charm, eh?
That's where you're wrong. They paid for his flight and s**t, and he flew over to help Ron English. Exactly, little man - he flew over with Ron English as his bit ch. Not Banksy's guest, not buying through Banksy. Flew in with Ron English and was thought of as Ron's bit ch by all who met him. But, hey, carry on. It's all part of that marvellous Lahoda sevice and charm, eh? |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by spirit on Apr 14, 2010 23:06:57 GMT 1, From Daniel Lahoda: Maybe you should have thought about that when flipping countless Gold flags from SG07 Daniel, and ripping off countless people over the years? Well, he did go to Palestine with Ron English and Swoon as a guest of Banksy, and he was able to buy multiple copies of the print directly from Banksy, and, to be clear, he just bought them and the Palestinians sold them to raise money for themselves. A family raised enough money to buy their property back from The Israeli's who stole it, thanks to this man that you all despise so deeply. That's the truth; and anyone here would trust the source, believe me. Y'all need to slow your roll and find a new person to hate on... LA Art Fraud Department? What a joke; It's been months since that was announced... Where's the mugshot, you f**king trolls. Lahoda has done more for the scene than any of you little internet wizards could ever conjure up in your imaginations... Don't let yourself be manipulated. Support good work, or shut the f**k up already. This is my first post under a second name... Anonymous Meet Anonymous. These latest accusations just really made my blood boil...
He just bought them and the palestinians sold them? So what were all the ones he was selling on here then?
Let's see...
He has been banned from the Giant
He has been banned from Expressobeans
He has been banned from Wallkandy
He has been banned from here (I think) perhaps he just realised he was not welcome and f**ked off...
He was banned from the BMW forum
I guess all that happened because of all his "good work" right?
And where are these Dface Riots (from the "sold out" edition) that he is selling on ebay coming from?
The guy is a liar, a thief and a con-man. Are you totally blind? Wake up! It's not us being manipulated.
From Daniel Lahoda: Maybe you should have thought about that when flipping countless Gold flags from SG07 Daniel, and ripping off countless people over the years? Well, he did go to Palestine with Ron English and Swoon as a guest of Banksy, and he was able to buy multiple copies of the print directly from Banksy, and, to be clear, he just bought them and the Palestinians sold them to raise money for themselves. A family raised enough money to buy their property back from The Israeli's who stole it, thanks to this man that you all despise so deeply. That's the truth; and anyone here would trust the source, believe me. Y'all need to slow your roll and find a new person to hate on... LA Art Fraud Department? What a joke; It's been months since that was announced... Where's the mugshot, you f**king trolls. Lahoda has done more for the scene than any of you little internet wizards could ever conjure up in your imaginations... Don't let yourself be manipulated. Support good work, or shut the f**k up already. This is my first post under a second name... Anonymous Meet Anonymous. These latest accusations just really made my blood boil... He just bought them and the palestinians sold them? So what were all the ones he was selling on here then? Let's see... He has been banned from the Giant He has been banned from Expressobeans He has been banned from Wallkandy He has been banned from here (I think) perhaps he just realised he was not welcome and f**ked off... He was banned from the BMW forum I guess all that happened because of all his "good work" right? And where are these Dface Riots (from the "sold out" edition) that he is selling on ebay coming from? The guy is a liar, a thief and a con-man. Are you totally blind? Wake up! It's not us being manipulated. |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by monkeyart on Apr 14, 2010 23:13:18 GMT 1, That's where you're wrong. They paid for his flight and s**t, and he flew over to help Ron English. Exactly, little man - he flew over with Ron English as his bit ch. Not Banksy's guest, not buying through Banksy. Flew in with Ron English and was thought of as Ron's bit ch by all who met him. But, hey, carry on. It's all part of that marvellous Lahoda sevice and charm, eh?
hey big man! Do you know what your talking about! Don't think Ron will ever deal with him again... he's a thief and a lier!
That's where you're wrong. They paid for his flight and s**t, and he flew over to help Ron English. Exactly, little man - he flew over with Ron English as his bit ch. Not Banksy's guest, not buying through Banksy. Flew in with Ron English and was thought of as Ron's bit ch by all who met him. But, hey, carry on. It's all part of that marvellous Lahoda sevice and charm, eh? hey big man! Do you know what your talking about! Don't think Ron will ever deal with him again... he's a thief and a lier! |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by monkeyart on Apr 14, 2010 23:15:23 GMT 1, Skai, it is owned by MrChristmas read previously posted and its all there :-)
Skai, it is owned by MrChristmas read previously posted and its all there :-)
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by curiousgeorge on Apr 14, 2010 23:16:04 GMT 1, If memory serves JSG stated here that each person that he helped made $1000 perhaps with a lunch of Falafel and Coke,don't quote me on that though...
If memory serves JSG stated here that each person that he helped made $1000 perhaps with a lunch of Falafel and Coke,don't quote me on that though...
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by monkeyart on Apr 14, 2010 23:27:06 GMT 1, Yes because its not by Banksy! Are you mad?
Yes because its not by Banksy! Are you mad?
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by wimpy on Apr 14, 2010 23:39:18 GMT 1, Skai, it is owned by MrChristmas read previously posted and its all there :-) The property is owned by Doug Christmas? Hmmmm, so are we expected to think that it's a coincidence that Mr.B chose this property to put a piece up. I mean there are literally millions of walls in LA and this is the one he picked. Am I wrong to assume that B knew this, and will most likely get a piece of the action from the sale? 
I don't know about "getting a piece of the action from the sale", but it would be a pretty good way to get people fired up like it has and keep talking about it. 
Skai, it is owned by MrChristmas read previously posted and its all there :-) The property is owned by Doug Christmas? Hmmmm, so are we expected to think that it's a coincidence that Mr.B chose this property to put a piece up. I mean there are literally millions of walls in LA and this is the one he picked. Am I wrong to assume that B knew this, and will most likely get a piece of the action from the sale? I don't know about "getting a piece of the action from the sale", but it would be a pretty good way to get people fired up like it has and keep talking about it. |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by dynamixx on Apr 15, 2010 0:22:39 GMT 1, Gah someone missed the memo www.ukstreetart.co.uk/2010/04/14/banksy-heist-in-la/ . It's kind of important JSG isn't portrayed as some sort of Banksy messiah here.
"inshallah", how come you know so much about JSG?
You're a bloody disgrace, but seeing as you've taken the time to respond to me, I'm going to do the same to you.
From Daniel Lahoda: Maybe you should have thought about that when flipping countless Gold flags from SG07 Daniel, and ripping off countless people over the years? Well, he did go to Palestine with Ron English and Swoon as a guest of Banksy,
Can you elaborate on guest of Banksy please?
What source?
Nice boast. People have lost money
How very condescending, if only you knew etc. God willing, let us know how exactly has Lahoda contributed to the scene, other than making a lot of money illegitimately?
Gah someone missed the memo www.ukstreetart.co.uk/2010/04/14/banksy-heist-in-la/ . It's kind of important JSG isn't portrayed as some sort of Banksy messiah here. "inshallah", how come you know so much about JSG? You're a bloody disgrace, but seeing as you've taken the time to respond to me, I'm going to do the same to you. From Daniel Lahoda: Maybe you should have thought about that when flipping countless Gold flags from SG07 Daniel, and ripping off countless people over the years? Well, he did go to Palestine with Ron English and Swoon as a guest of Banksy, Can you elaborate on guest of Banksy please? What source? Nice boast. People have lost money How very condescending, if only you knew etc. God willing, let us know how exactly has Lahoda contributed to the scene, other than making a lot of money illegitimately? |
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Banksy in Los Angeles, by spirit on Apr 15, 2010 0:34:00 GMT 1, "inshallah", how come you know so much about JSG?
Well he tried to rejoin the giant at least 3 times (and got busted and banned again each time) so I think there is a good chance this is probably JSG himself.
Similar behaviour on EB...
"inshallah", how come you know so much about JSG? Well he tried to rejoin the giant at least 3 times (and got busted and banned again each time) so I think there is a good chance this is probably JSG himself. Similar behaviour on EB... |
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So what were all the ones he was selling on here then?
