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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by bazzj04 on Mar 10, 2010 17:37:44 GMT 1, Prehaps he didnt wear the ring, because he was afraid the jewler would reconise it, and out him with a reciete to the media , haha
Prehaps he didnt wear the ring, because he was afraid the jewler would reconise it, and out him with a reciete to the media , haha
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by wilfsboy on Mar 10, 2010 17:38:10 GMT 1, Do you seriously think anyone that watches the movie, that has no interest in street art, will come out of the cinema and think MBW comes off well from this? i must buy some of his work? i dont think so. No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening.
Thats exactly whats happening....
Banksy's created a monster...
Do you seriously think anyone that watches the movie, that has no interest in street art, will come out of the cinema and think MBW comes off well from this? i must buy some of his work? i dont think so. No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening. Thats exactly whats happening.... Banksy's created a monster...
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by scandi on Mar 10, 2010 17:39:59 GMT 1, "Avalon Distribution has taken theatrical rights for Spain to Banksy documentary Exit Through The Gift Shop, What the f**k about Germany?
Nobody cares about Germany. What about Switzerland?!
"Avalon Distribution has taken theatrical rights for Spain to Banksy documentary Exit Through The Gift Shop, What the f**k about Germany? Nobody cares about Germany. What about Switzerland?!
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 17:47:29 GMT 1, No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening. Thats exactly whats happening.... Banksy's created a monster...
The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired?
No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening. Thats exactly whats happening.... Banksy's created a monster... The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by bristolboy on Mar 10, 2010 17:59:40 GMT 1, Thats exactly whats happening.... Banksy's created a monster... The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired?
In what way has it back fired?
Thats exactly whats happening.... Banksy's created a monster... The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired? In what way has it back fired?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Curley on Mar 10, 2010 18:02:55 GMT 1, In PR terms, who do you think gained the most or of this film? Out of 100. I would say - Mr Brainwash = 50 Banksy = 30 Shepard Fairey = 15 Other Artists = 5
IMO Banksy is the PR winner by a country mile
I don't see MBW on the cover of Time Out or The Sunday Times mag, nor is he in 100K of flyer packs, his name is not mentioned on the posters advertising the film that are in every tube station. Nor is MBW really mentioned in any of the reviews and when he is its not in a good way.
In PR terms, who do you think gained the most or of this film? Out of 100. I would say - Mr Brainwash = 50 Banksy = 30 Shepard Fairey = 15 Other Artists = 5 IMO Banksy is the PR winner by a country mile I don't see MBW on the cover of Time Out or The Sunday Times mag, nor is he in 100K of flyer packs, his name is not mentioned on the posters advertising the film that are in every tube station. Nor is MBW really mentioned in any of the reviews and when he is its not in a good way.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 18:06:37 GMT 1, The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired? In what way has it back fired?
If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result?
The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired? In what way has it back fired? If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by bristolboy on Mar 10, 2010 18:08:41 GMT 1, In what way has it back fired? If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result?
He did that before the film didnt he?
In what way has it back fired? If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result? He did that before the film didnt he?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 18:12:06 GMT 1, If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result? He did that before the film didnt he?
True to some extent, but what effect will the film have on him in the future? I don't think its gonna be negative.
If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result? He did that before the film didnt he? True to some extent, but what effect will the film have on him in the future? I don't think its gonna be negative.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 18:17:38 GMT 1, Another thing I was thinking about the other day
With the film creating a lot of interest over the coming months, will Banksy in some ways be forced to release more prints that he might have done otherwise, due to if people cant buy work by him, they might see Mr Brainwash as an alternative? I should think Brainwash will release loads of work to cash in on the media coverage
Another thing I was thinking about the other day With the film creating a lot of interest over the coming months, will Banksy in some ways be forced to release more prints that he might have done otherwise, due to if people cant buy work by him, they might see Mr Brainwash as an alternative? I should think Brainwash will release loads of work to cash in on the media coverage
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Guest on Mar 10, 2010 18:18:37 GMT 1, silky, did you read curleys post? hasnt your question been answered. show one review that is positive regarding MBW and the film.
silky, did you read curleys post? hasnt your question been answered. show one review that is positive regarding MBW and the film.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by bristolboy on Mar 10, 2010 18:19:26 GMT 1, He did that before the film didnt he? True to some extent, but what effect will the film have on him in the future? I don't think its gonna be negative.
Hard to say really silky, I imagine in the short term the hype generated will keep the whirlwind spinning though in the long term unless the work has substance or an ounce of artistic merit the people will see it for what it is. But what do I know?
He did that before the film didnt he? True to some extent, but what effect will the film have on him in the future? I don't think its gonna be negative. Hard to say really silky, I imagine in the short term the hype generated will keep the whirlwind spinning though in the long term unless the work has substance or an ounce of artistic merit the people will see it for what it is. But what do I know?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 18:21:12 GMT 1, silky, did you read curleys post? hasnt your question been answered. show one review that is positive regarding MBW and the film.
Positive or Negative reviews does it really matter?
silky, did you read curleys post? hasnt your question been answered. show one review that is positive regarding MBW and the film. Positive or Negative reviews does it really matter?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by naughtyshorty on Mar 10, 2010 18:25:46 GMT 1, Prehaps he didnt wear the ring, because he was afraid the jewler would reconise it, and out him with a reciete to the media , haha
* groan*
Prehaps he didnt wear the ring, because he was afraid the jewler would reconise it, and out him with a reciete to the media , haha * groan*
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by leumasdarnley on Mar 10, 2010 18:28:36 GMT 1, Maybe I give the man too much credit but I can't imagine that Banksy is surprised by the MBW hype train. In the end I can't help but think this Movie is his real life version of Morons....
Maybe I give the man too much credit but I can't imagine that Banksy is surprised by the MBW hype train. In the end I can't help but think this Movie is his real life version of Morons....
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Curley on Mar 10, 2010 18:51:12 GMT 1, silky, did you read curleys post? hasnt your question been answered. show one review that is positive regarding MBW and the film. Positive or Negative reviews does it really matter?
To many people yes it does matter whether the review is good or bad as it will help them make an informed decision on whether to buy a book a CD or chose what film to go and see etc.
i dont know many who read a shit review then still buy the CD or whatever.
silky, did you read curleys post? hasnt your question been answered. show one review that is positive regarding MBW and the film. Positive or Negative reviews does it really matter? To many people yes it does matter whether the review is good or bad as it will help them make an informed decision on whether to buy a book a CD or chose what film to go and see etc. i dont know many who read a shit review then still buy the CD or whatever.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by grantb on Mar 10, 2010 18:51:25 GMT 1, who even said his married.
who even said his married.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by naughtyshorty on Mar 10, 2010 18:53:51 GMT 1, well, ring on the 3rd finger of the left hand is a give away, and in the sunday times interview last sun, he acknowledges a "mrs Banksy"
well, ring on the 3rd finger of the left hand is a give away, and in the sunday times interview last sun, he acknowledges a "mrs Banksy"
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by grantb on Mar 10, 2010 18:57:08 GMT 1, could just be a girlfriend?
could just be a girlfriend?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by naughtyshorty on Mar 10, 2010 18:58:03 GMT 1, true - true. could have been married, now divorced, and now with new girlfriend..
true - true. could have been married, now divorced, and now with new girlfriend..
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by naughtyshorty on Mar 10, 2010 18:58:47 GMT 1, or... banksy could be gay, and the Mrs Banksy could be a cover for Mr Banksy...
*starts running before members hurl their computers at him*
or... banksy could be gay, and the Mrs Banksy could be a cover for Mr Banksy...
*starts running before members hurl their computers at him*
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 19:10:25 GMT 1, Positive or Negative reviews does it really matter? To many people yes it does matter whether the review is good or bad as it will help them make an informed decision on whether to buy a book a CD or chose what film to go and see etc. i dont know many who read a s**t review then still buy the CD or whatever.
Whats better - No reviews or 1,000 bad reviews?
Positive or Negative reviews does it really matter? To many people yes it does matter whether the review is good or bad as it will help them make an informed decision on whether to buy a book a CD or chose what film to go and see etc. i dont know many who read a s**t review then still buy the CD or whatever. Whats better - No reviews or 1,000 bad reviews?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by bigtlt on Mar 10, 2010 19:24:52 GMT 1,
Whats better - No reviews or 1,000 bad reviews? [/quote]
Bad publicity is better than no publicity...
Whats better - No reviews or 1,000 bad reviews? [/quote] Bad publicity is better than no publicity...
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by jaslfc5 on Mar 10, 2010 20:27:37 GMT 1, ive seen the film twice now ,once on opening day with my wife the other with my son.both times there was less than ten people in the audience. it only appeals to certain people and unless you read the times or the guardian or watch the culture show then you might miss it altogether.if you like banksy's work then you will have picked up on this early on but i reckon not many will have gone because of the good reviews.
as far as the film is concerned i never really paid much attention to mbw's work before the film came out and now i come away from it feeling sorry for the guy he clearly has some form of ocd or asbergers syndrome and is using his art to get some sort of acceptance from his peers and to an extent he is succeeding.
i loved the film the whole feel of it the secretism around it ,the subsiquent conspiracy theory of banksy engineering the whole thing.2 things i will say though is shepard fairey comes across as a stummbling buffoon i saw him fall over at least twice and his wifes initials is a fairey.and invader has to have raised his appeal after this he came across very well.
what it does mean for me is ,as a banksy fan myself it just means it will be even more impossible to get hold of one of his prints at launch,but that is the only downside to what is a very enjoyable film and a good twist to the whole urban art genre.
ive seen the film twice now ,once on opening day with my wife the other with my son.both times there was less than ten people in the audience. it only appeals to certain people and unless you read the times or the guardian or watch the culture show then you might miss it altogether.if you like banksy's work then you will have picked up on this early on but i reckon not many will have gone because of the good reviews.
as far as the film is concerned i never really paid much attention to mbw's work before the film came out and now i come away from it feeling sorry for the guy he clearly has some form of ocd or asbergers syndrome and is using his art to get some sort of acceptance from his peers and to an extent he is succeeding.
i loved the film the whole feel of it the secretism around it ,the subsiquent conspiracy theory of banksy engineering the whole thing.2 things i will say though is shepard fairey comes across as a stummbling buffoon i saw him fall over at least twice and his wifes initials is a fairey.and invader has to have raised his appeal after this he came across very well.
what it does mean for me is ,as a banksy fan myself it just means it will be even more impossible to get hold of one of his prints at launch,but that is the only downside to what is a very enjoyable film and a good twist to the whole urban art genre.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Sacked... on Mar 10, 2010 20:30:34 GMT 1, Why would forun members "hurl thier computers "at you naughty ?
Why would forun members "hurl thier computers "at you naughty ?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by naughtyshorty on Mar 10, 2010 21:15:56 GMT 1, i think there's only a certain amount of freedom forum members are allowed in determining who banksy is, what he looks like, where he comes from, whether he's posh or not, and what his sexuality is and i think that some members may not like too much speculation on any of these!
i think there's only a certain amount of freedom forum members are allowed in determining who banksy is, what he looks like, where he comes from, whether he's posh or not, and what his sexuality is and i think that some members may not like too much speculation on any of these!
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by raiden on Mar 10, 2010 21:23:13 GMT 1, I think in the larger context, outside of fan boy circles, this movie will be as successful as "The Devil And Daniel Johnston" which ultimately saw Daniel Johnston's art and appreciation go up - and saw a one time spike in prices, that seem to be sliding downward as it fades from the collective consciousness.
I dont' think its a fair assessment to say draw parallels between how other artists use art assistants and how MBW does. Hirst for example uses art assistants to more or less replicate what he has designed or sketched. Banksy and others will use art assistants for technical aspects of a work that they may have less experience in working with - sculpting, metal working, etc.
MBW couldn't even create the paste up image of his face, so he had to hire a graphic artist to do it for him. Pretty much anyone on this board with photoshop experience and even an iota of artistic talent could have done it.
Other than that, his "conceptualization" is him seeing something else that is existing and then telling his hired artists to make something like it. Its extremely simplistic.
The fact is, if you have a conversation with the guy, you realize he's not very creative and very simple minded.
That's what I mean about the BEING THERE comparison.
Chance, through chance, finds himself in a situation where by making statements like "there will be growth in the spring" a gaggle of ill-informed sycophants misinterpret it as some sort of brilliance (partly because of his proximity Melvyn Douglas's character)
Similarly, Thierry, by dumb luck and even a bit of OCD, finds himself in a situation where by saying he's an artist and documentary filmmaker, got in close proximity to Banksy, and then it was misinterpreted by a slew of ill-informed fan boys into being entirely what it is not.
I think in the larger context, outside of fan boy circles, this movie will be as successful as "The Devil And Daniel Johnston" which ultimately saw Daniel Johnston's art and appreciation go up - and saw a one time spike in prices, that seem to be sliding downward as it fades from the collective consciousness.
I dont' think its a fair assessment to say draw parallels between how other artists use art assistants and how MBW does. Hirst for example uses art assistants to more or less replicate what he has designed or sketched. Banksy and others will use art assistants for technical aspects of a work that they may have less experience in working with - sculpting, metal working, etc.
MBW couldn't even create the paste up image of his face, so he had to hire a graphic artist to do it for him. Pretty much anyone on this board with photoshop experience and even an iota of artistic talent could have done it.
Other than that, his "conceptualization" is him seeing something else that is existing and then telling his hired artists to make something like it. Its extremely simplistic.
The fact is, if you have a conversation with the guy, you realize he's not very creative and very simple minded.
That's what I mean about the BEING THERE comparison.
Chance, through chance, finds himself in a situation where by making statements like "there will be growth in the spring" a gaggle of ill-informed sycophants misinterpret it as some sort of brilliance (partly because of his proximity Melvyn Douglas's character)
Similarly, Thierry, by dumb luck and even a bit of OCD, finds himself in a situation where by saying he's an artist and documentary filmmaker, got in close proximity to Banksy, and then it was misinterpreted by a slew of ill-informed fan boys into being entirely what it is not.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by bullet on Mar 11, 2010 0:58:38 GMT 1, why do people care what he looks like?
even if you did see him he would say he is not banksy so whats the point.
why do people care what he looks like?
even if you did see him he would say he is not banksy so whats the point.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by gwenie on Mar 11, 2010 8:53:19 GMT 1, Strange - sorta covered but not quite......
Strange - sorta covered but not quite......
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by grantb on Mar 11, 2010 10:09:18 GMT 1, because people dreams will be shattered when they find out his only 2.8 ft tall.
because people dreams will be shattered when they find out his only 2.8 ft tall.
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