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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 13, 2010 13:10:30 GMT 1, 
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by wilfsboy on Mar 13, 2010 13:11:15 GMT 1, What other Artists do you think are gonna follow Banksy's Film with their own creation? 
It would be great to see kaws or dface on the big screen....
What other Artists do you think are gonna follow Banksy's Film with their own creation? It would be great to see kaws or dface on the big screen.... |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 13, 2010 13:15:11 GMT 1, What other Artists do you think are gonna follow Banksy's Film with their own creation? It would be great to see kaws or dface on the big screen....
Yeah, I think a film with a big group of Artists works well, coz you get a bit of something for everyone
I think the Banksy Film could have done with a bit more time on the streets with other Artists just to give it a bit more background.
What other Artists do you think are gonna follow Banksy's Film with their own creation? It would be great to see kaws or dface on the big screen.... Yeah, I think a film with a big group of Artists works well, coz you get a bit of something for everyone I think the Banksy Film could have done with a bit more time on the streets with other Artists just to give it a bit more background. |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by rowan on Mar 13, 2010 13:27:18 GMT 1, I wouldn't mind seeing the 'film poster with the guy pushing the shopping trolley turn up!..
The Black and White posters would look good framed next to each other, in alternating colours...
I wouldn't mind seeing the 'film poster with the guy pushing the shopping trolley turn up!..
The Black and White posters would look good framed next to each other, in alternating colours...
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Guest on Mar 13, 2010 13:38:21 GMT 1, budding director eh silk?
budding director eh silk?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by rowan on Mar 13, 2010 13:51:01 GMT 1, Its a pity Mr Brainwash - Life Remote Control never surfaced!
From what I've read, it wouldn't have be a patch on the professionalism of 'Exit' but more like watching a series of clips on you tube one after another...
I guess this would have offered up a more random and content rich movie... A bit more of everything but a whole lot of nothing!
But dont get me wrong! Im very happy with 'Exit'.. when i finally get to see it, that is.! 
Its a pity Mr Brainwash - Life Remote Control never surfaced! From what I've read, it wouldn't have be a patch on the professionalism of ' Exit' but more like watching a series of clips on you tube one after another... I guess this would have offered up a more random and content rich movie... A bit more of everything but a whole lot of nothing! But dont get me wrong! Im very happy with ' Exit'.. when i finally get to see it, that is.! |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by wilfsboy on Mar 13, 2010 13:58:56 GMT 1, It would be great to see kaws or dface on the big screen.... Yeah, I think a film with a big group of Artists works well, coz you get a bit of something for everyone I think the Banksy Film could have done with a bit more time on the streets with other Artists just to give it a bit more background.
I think there is more to come....
It would be great to see kaws or dface on the big screen.... Yeah, I think a film with a big group of Artists works well, coz you get a bit of something for everyone I think the Banksy Film could have done with a bit more time on the streets with other Artists just to give it a bit more background. I think there is more to come.... |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by speebe on Mar 13, 2010 16:07:57 GMT 1, Its a pity Mr Brainwash - Life Remote Control never surfaced! From what I've read, it wouldn't have be a patch on the professionalism of ' Exit' but more like watching a series of clips on you tube one after another... I guess this would have offered up a more random and content rich movie... A bit more of everything but a whole lot of nothing! But dont get me wrong! Im very happy with ' Exit'.. when i finally get to see it, that is.!
As Banksy owns the film/tapes he should add Thierry's film as a bonus feature on its DVD/Blu-ray release.
Its a pity Mr Brainwash - Life Remote Control never surfaced! From what I've read, it wouldn't have be a patch on the professionalism of ' Exit' but more like watching a series of clips on you tube one after another... I guess this would have offered up a more random and content rich movie... A bit more of everything but a whole lot of nothing! But dont get me wrong! Im very happy with ' Exit'.. when i finally get to see it, that is.! As Banksy owns the film/tapes he should add Thierry's film as a bonus feature on its DVD/Blu-ray release. |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Heavyconsumer on Mar 13, 2010 19:08:08 GMT 1, Silky, I'm curious what "scene" it is that you're talking about above. You keep mentioning "the scene," but MBW is no street artist and only in the loosest sense can he be considered any type of artist at all imo, as he's never produced much artwork to speak of that I'm aware of. How can he directly effect all the other artists we've discussed in the forum for years? I have no idea how he could have any impact at all to be honest. I'm a bit surprised you seem to consider him so important. Imo we're well out of any subversive street culture and into the realm of popular culture when we talk about Banksy these days. It's an obvious result of his growing fame and popularity, in an age where channels of communication are so wide open and varied.
As for Banksy being the Warhol of this generation, I see him as being potentially FAR more significant in the long-term. Banksy may just have exposed the artworld and the masses to one another in ways that could never before have been imaginable. And the historical timing of this could prove to have further reaching effects than any of us can realise at this stage. Has there ever been a moment in time where so many creative people have had the freedom to practise their art as do today? I don't think so and I believe it's due to the emergence of majority middle classes who can support their children in ways only considered by the rich in previous generations? What effects would that wave of talent have had on the traditional art market, even without the wake-up call from Mr B, in the context of that art market, that in modern day society, people buy whatever crap they're told to? And with Banksy ramming his message ever further down our throats and the art market having to deal with a neverendingly increasing supply of quality work, where is this whole thing heading? I think it's a fascinating social situation.
I believe MBW is insignificant, beyond his function as a walking, talking comment on society, created and given to us by one of the most genius artistic minds of our time. He's just a bill-board for Banksy and the "work" he sells has little or no significance imo. His existence and relative success is the message. I think one look at the art only serves to reinforce that the art itself is not the product but it's the "artist" who in fact is. If collectors of MBW's work are comfortable with that, I don't see why they would/should stop buying necessarily or why demand will stop, but if they choose instead to believe that they are actually buying or investing in art per say, they are simply perpetuating the message and themselves becoming elements of the art in question imo. The brilliance of the whole concept is stunning, but little/none of the credit should go to MBW imo. Has any artist ever involved so many individuals in the performance of their art as Banksy is with this project?
Just to be clear, I'm not making predictions about or knocking the investment value of MBW's work and don't care either way what happens to it. I think the whole thing's interesting, especially how many people seem to have bought into something which I see as being a piece of conceptual art too large in scale for any of us to perceive until here, 2/3 years (or however long it's been) down the road. Maybe I'm talking out of my backside and Banksy didn't intend any of the things I give him credit for. I don't know. But he's certainly responsible for my belief that he's capable of all this. I've been blown away by his work over the past few years and now I'd not put anything anything past him.
Silky, I'm curious what "scene" it is that you're talking about above. You keep mentioning "the scene," but MBW is no street artist and only in the loosest sense can he be considered any type of artist at all imo, as he's never produced much artwork to speak of that I'm aware of. How can he directly effect all the other artists we've discussed in the forum for years? I have no idea how he could have any impact at all to be honest. I'm a bit surprised you seem to consider him so important. Imo we're well out of any subversive street culture and into the realm of popular culture when we talk about Banksy these days. It's an obvious result of his growing fame and popularity, in an age where channels of communication are so wide open and varied.
As for Banksy being the Warhol of this generation, I see him as being potentially FAR more significant in the long-term. Banksy may just have exposed the artworld and the masses to one another in ways that could never before have been imaginable. And the historical timing of this could prove to have further reaching effects than any of us can realise at this stage. Has there ever been a moment in time where so many creative people have had the freedom to practise their art as do today? I don't think so and I believe it's due to the emergence of majority middle classes who can support their children in ways only considered by the rich in previous generations? What effects would that wave of talent have had on the traditional art market, even without the wake-up call from Mr B, in the context of that art market, that in modern day society, people buy whatever crap they're told to? And with Banksy ramming his message ever further down our throats and the art market having to deal with a neverendingly increasing supply of quality work, where is this whole thing heading? I think it's a fascinating social situation.
I believe MBW is insignificant, beyond his function as a walking, talking comment on society, created and given to us by one of the most genius artistic minds of our time. He's just a bill-board for Banksy and the "work" he sells has little or no significance imo. His existence and relative success is the message. I think one look at the art only serves to reinforce that the art itself is not the product but it's the "artist" who in fact is. If collectors of MBW's work are comfortable with that, I don't see why they would/should stop buying necessarily or why demand will stop, but if they choose instead to believe that they are actually buying or investing in art per say, they are simply perpetuating the message and themselves becoming elements of the art in question imo. The brilliance of the whole concept is stunning, but little/none of the credit should go to MBW imo. Has any artist ever involved so many individuals in the performance of their art as Banksy is with this project?
Just to be clear, I'm not making predictions about or knocking the investment value of MBW's work and don't care either way what happens to it. I think the whole thing's interesting, especially how many people seem to have bought into something which I see as being a piece of conceptual art too large in scale for any of us to perceive until here, 2/3 years (or however long it's been) down the road. Maybe I'm talking out of my backside and Banksy didn't intend any of the things I give him credit for. I don't know. But he's certainly responsible for my belief that he's capable of all this. I've been blown away by his work over the past few years and now I'd not put anything anything past him.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 13, 2010 19:59:52 GMT 1, I know what your saying, but I think how we here all see things might be very different to ya average bloke off the street that watches the film, and its their first glimpse of Street/Graffiti/Urban Art 
I know what your saying, but I think how we here all see things might be very different to ya average bloke off the street that watches the film, and its their first glimpse of Street/Graffiti/Urban Art |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Heavyconsumer on Mar 13, 2010 20:45:44 GMT 1, I know what your saying, but I think how we here all see things might be very different to ya average bloke off the street that watches the film, and its their first glimpse of Street/Graffiti/Urban Art
I see your point, although maybe you overestimate the number of people likely to go and watch this movie with no prior interest in art. I honestly don't think the movie will prove to hold that much appeal to mainstream moviegoing peeps. And in box-office terms I'm very interested to see how it performs compared to other types of films. How much of ther general public will get off their backsides to watch a movie about artists they know nothing about? I should think that art related films in general are probably considered quite niche. No?
I know what your saying, but I think how we here all see things might be very different to ya average bloke off the street that watches the film, and its their first glimpse of Street/Graffiti/Urban Art I see your point, although maybe you overestimate the number of people likely to go and watch this movie with no prior interest in art. I honestly don't think the movie will prove to hold that much appeal to mainstream moviegoing peeps. And in box-office terms I'm very interested to see how it performs compared to other types of films. How much of ther general public will get off their backsides to watch a movie about artists they know nothing about? I should think that art related films in general are probably considered quite niche. No? |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by wilfsboy on Mar 13, 2010 20:49:02 GMT 1, I know what your saying, but I think how we here all see things might be very different to ya average bloke off the street that watches the film, and its their first glimpse of Street/Graffiti/Urban Art I see your point, although maybe you overestimate the number of people likely to go and watch this movie with no prior interest in art. I honestly don't think the movie will prove to hold that much appeal to mainstream moviegoing peeps. And in box-office terms I'm very interested to see how it performs compared to other types of films. How much of ther general public will get off their backsides to watch a movie about artists they know nothing about? I should think that art related films in general are probably considered quite niche. No?
I went to see it in cardiff on the opening night at 11pm and my mate and I were the only 2 there !
I know what your saying, but I think how we here all see things might be very different to ya average bloke off the street that watches the film, and its their first glimpse of Street/Graffiti/Urban Art I see your point, although maybe you overestimate the number of people likely to go and watch this movie with no prior interest in art. I honestly don't think the movie will prove to hold that much appeal to mainstream moviegoing peeps. And in box-office terms I'm very interested to see how it performs compared to other types of films. How much of ther general public will get off their backsides to watch a movie about artists they know nothing about? I should think that art related films in general are probably considered quite niche. No? I went to see it in cardiff on the opening night at 11pm and my mate and I were the only 2 there ! |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by becksaboo on Mar 13, 2010 23:32:56 GMT 1, I've seen the film twice with people who are only vaguely aware of Banksy and they all loved it. One said it was the best documentary he'd ever seen.
Although they're "artists" I think in a way for people who aren't into "the scene" it's almost irrelevant as it's more about the two characters.
If you take it at face value, which is what most people who weren't previous banksy fans, then it's just a really sweet, funny film.
We saw it in Bristol, which granted is home territory, but each screening was practically sold out.
Here's a link to the first week's takings though:
www.ukfilmcouncil.org.uk/article/16559/UK-Box-Office-5---7-March-2010
If you look at site average, then it came third overall which is pretty good going considering it was Oscar time.
I've seen the film twice with people who are only vaguely aware of Banksy and they all loved it. One said it was the best documentary he'd ever seen. Although they're "artists" I think in a way for people who aren't into "the scene" it's almost irrelevant as it's more about the two characters. If you take it at face value, which is what most people who weren't previous banksy fans, then it's just a really sweet, funny film. We saw it in Bristol, which granted is home territory, but each screening was practically sold out. Here's a link to the first week's takings though: www.ukfilmcouncil.org.uk/article/16559/UK-Box-Office-5---7-March-2010If you look at site average, then it came third overall which is pretty good going considering it was Oscar time. |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 13, 2010 23:47:04 GMT 1, www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/dylan-jones/dylan-jones-thierry-guetta-was-simply-meant-to-direct-banksys-film-now-hes-selling-everything-with-his-name-on-it-1919246.html
"Dylan Jones: 'Thierry Guetta was simply meant to direct Banksy's film. Now he's selling everything with his name on it'"
There has been a lot of chatter about the star of Banksy's film Exit Through the Giftshop, Thierry Guetta, aka "Mr Brainwash". The 44-year-old French artist was meant simply to direct Banksy's film about street artists, but soon became its principal subject – prompting many to suggest that: a) Brainwash was just a media prank, a convenient invention of Banksy's; or b) that he is actually Banksy himself. But if he is some kind of media construct, it appears to be working.
"I went to Brainwash's show in New York last week, and it was like falling into a semiotic supermarket, a gallery full of reductive icons. In an enormous space in the Meatpacking District, Guetta showed dozens of his pieces, including many variations of his life-size New York yellow taxi, stuck in a giant Matchbox case; portraits made from broken vinyl records (Chuck Close might have painted Philip Glass with fingerprints; Brainwash paints U2 with vinyl); and a multitude of hastily drawn images of the great and the good. And a lot of it appeared to have already been sold, suggesting that the work – priced from $8,000 to $250,000 – is resonating with the art world.
Is it any good? Some of it, yes, very good. If you ask me – which, to his credit, Guetta did, although I was too polite to tell him – he needs a good editor, and the show needed to have been half the size. But then he seems to be selling everything he sticks his name on – a recent show in LA was every bit as successful – so what do I know? "I am like a machine, a human machine," he told me, in his charmingly accelerated broken English. "I spit out ideas as though they were words – words, words, words, hundreds and hundreds of them every day. I wake up in the middle of the night and find myself just bursting with things I want to do. I am ... just a little bit crazy." Hmmm. Guetta certainly has the surface smarts and the mediated swagger of a 21st-century RSA (Rock Star Artist). He has assumed the arrogance of the ultimate YBA, the dress sense of a portly Jim Morrison, and the ideology of a young Mark Kostabi. Really, seriously, who can blame him?"
www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/dylan-jones/dylan-jones-thierry-guetta-was-simply-meant-to-direct-banksys-film-now-hes-selling-everything-with-his-name-on-it-1919246.html"Dylan Jones: 'Thierry Guetta was simply meant to direct Banksy's film. Now he's selling everything with his name on it'" There has been a lot of chatter about the star of Banksy's film Exit Through the Giftshop, Thierry Guetta, aka "Mr Brainwash". The 44-year-old French artist was meant simply to direct Banksy's film about street artists, but soon became its principal subject – prompting many to suggest that: a) Brainwash was just a media prank, a convenient invention of Banksy's; or b) that he is actually Banksy himself. But if he is some kind of media construct, it appears to be working. "I went to Brainwash's show in New York last week, and it was like falling into a semiotic supermarket, a gallery full of reductive icons. In an enormous space in the Meatpacking District, Guetta showed dozens of his pieces, including many variations of his life-size New York yellow taxi, stuck in a giant Matchbox case; portraits made from broken vinyl records (Chuck Close might have painted Philip Glass with fingerprints; Brainwash paints U2 with vinyl); and a multitude of hastily drawn images of the great and the good. And a lot of it appeared to have already been sold, suggesting that the work – priced from $8,000 to $250,000 – is resonating with the art world. Is it any good? Some of it, yes, very good. If you ask me – which, to his credit, Guetta did, although I was too polite to tell him – he needs a good editor, and the show needed to have been half the size. But then he seems to be selling everything he sticks his name on – a recent show in LA was every bit as successful – so what do I know? "I am like a machine, a human machine," he told me, in his charmingly accelerated broken English. "I spit out ideas as though they were words – words, words, words, hundreds and hundreds of them every day. I wake up in the middle of the night and find myself just bursting with things I want to do. I am ... just a little bit crazy." Hmmm. Guetta certainly has the surface smarts and the mediated swagger of a 21st-century RSA (Rock Star Artist). He has assumed the arrogance of the ultimate YBA, the dress sense of a portly Jim Morrison, and the ideology of a young Mark Kostabi. Really, seriously, who can blame him?"
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 14, 2010 0:25:14 GMT 1, I guess the thing with a film like this is that its always gonna be there When its out on DVD its gonna become a great thing to look back on in say ten years time.
I would say the Cans Festival boosted the scene while it was on and for a bit of time after, but with a film its gonna live forever! ;D
Bit like Banksy saying in the film about needing somebody who knew how to use a camera to help record what they were doing.
I guess the thing with a film like this is that its always gonna be there When its out on DVD its gonna become a great thing to look back on in say ten years time. I would say the Cans Festival boosted the scene while it was on and for a bit of time after, but with a film its gonna live forever! ;D Bit like Banksy saying in the film about needing somebody who knew how to use a camera to help record what they were doing. |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by love on Mar 14, 2010 21:57:31 GMT 1, " Really, seriously, who can blame him?"
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by spiiiiiike on Mar 15, 2010 22:16:52 GMT 1, Went to see it recently and came a way a little unimpressed with it. 
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Fragile on Mar 16, 2010 13:16:05 GMT 1, even my local taxi firm on the Kingsland Road are advertising the film ;D
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 16, 2010 15:10:45 GMT 1, Went to see it recently and came a way a little unimpressed with it.
I know what you mean its not really the normal sort of film you get showing at your local cinema.
Its gonna work much better on TV
Went to see it recently and came a way a little unimpressed with it. I know what you mean its not really the normal sort of film you get showing at your local cinema. Its gonna work much better on TV |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by samuraiwriter on Mar 16, 2010 21:21:59 GMT 1, Beyond stoked to see this added to the Istanbul Int'l Film Festival on the 8th! Really looking forward to seeing it.
Beyond stoked to see this added to the Istanbul Int'l Film Festival on the 8th! Really looking forward to seeing it.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by spiiiiiike on Mar 17, 2010 11:25:40 GMT 1, Went to see it recently and came a way a little unimpressed with it. I know what you mean its not really the normal sort of film you get showing at your local cinema. Its gonna work much better on TV
Yes, totally agree with you about TV.
Went to see it recently and came a way a little unimpressed with it. I know what you mean its not really the normal sort of film you get showing at your local cinema. Its gonna work much better on TV Yes, totally agree with you about TV. |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Daniel Silk on Mar 17, 2010 16:52:32 GMT 1, Have you seen the Banksy Film yet?
Just think it would be interesting to see how many here have got to see it at the cinema over the last few weeks, and who are waiting for DVD or TV.
Have you seen the Banksy Film yet? Just think it would be interesting to see how many here have got to see it at the cinema over the last few weeks, and who are waiting for DVD or TV. |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by Cedric Mnich on Mar 17, 2010 16:55:34 GMT 1, Forced Waiting for DVD or screener or online version or whatever... as I'm in Paris.... I doubt it will ever be released in cinemas out of your island :-)
Forced Waiting for DVD or screener or online version or whatever... as I'm in Paris.... I doubt it will ever be released in cinemas out of your island :-)
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by dantefires on Mar 17, 2010 16:56:19 GMT 1, Saw it at my local with the Mrs and really enjoyed it. Great to see such a diverse audience who also seemed to have enoyed as well. Really wanted to see it at Lambeth, but all tickets gone. Gutted as went to POW the day after seeing this and apparantly there were quite a few empty seats at the Lambeth showings.
Saw it at my local with the Mrs and really enjoyed it. Great to see such a diverse audience who also seemed to have enoyed as well. Really wanted to see it at Lambeth, but all tickets gone. Gutted as went to POW the day after seeing this and apparantly there were quite a few empty seats at the Lambeth showings.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by grantb on Mar 17, 2010 17:02:38 GMT 1, saw it at the lambeth and then at my local cinema. enjoyed it much more at the lambeth, but noticed more the second time round as i was not drunk.
saw it at the lambeth and then at my local cinema. enjoyed it much more at the lambeth, but noticed more the second time round as i was not drunk.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by nigelbgg on Mar 17, 2010 17:50:52 GMT 1, Had it on DVD a few weeks ago, but left it at home when I went on holiday, look forward to seeing it when I get back.
Any idea when Chris Morris's Four Lions is out?
Had it on DVD a few weeks ago, but left it at home when I went on holiday, look forward to seeing it when I get back.
Any idea when Chris Morris's Four Lions is out?
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by love on Mar 17, 2010 18:15:28 GMT 1, Forced Waiting for DVD or screener or online version or whatever... as I'm in Paris.... I doubt it will ever be released in cinemas out of your island :-)
dito in germany
Forced Waiting for DVD or screener or online version or whatever... as I'm in Paris.... I doubt it will ever be released in cinemas out of your island :-) dito in germany |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by bristolboy on Mar 17, 2010 19:24:25 GMT 1, Any idea when Chris Morris's Four Lions is out?
7th May I think.
Any idea when Chris Morris's Four Lions is out? 7th May I think. |
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by jaslfc5 on Mar 17, 2010 19:49:31 GMT 1, saw it twice at my local cineworld.looking forward to bonus stuff on the dvd maybe.
saw it twice at my local cineworld.looking forward to bonus stuff on the dvd maybe.
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BANKSY Film "Exit Through The Gift Shop", by scandi on Mar 17, 2010 20:28:51 GMT 1, Will definitely see it if ends up in the cinemas here. If not I guess I'll have to wait until it is released on DVD.
Will definitely see it if ends up in the cinemas here. If not I guess I'll have to wait until it is released on DVD.
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