paul1066
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by paul1066 on Aug 26, 2008 15:27:48 GMT 1, Not sure if anyone is interested, a video on the Guardian about an art show in Denver, featuring works about Obama. I can't watch it work , but it looks as if Obey has some work featured. Will have to wait till I get home!!
www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2008/aug/26/manifest.hope.obama
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BONGO
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 26, 2008 15:53:39 GMT 1, BONGO SAD AT FETISHMENT OF POLITICIANS
BONGO SAD AT FETISHMENT OF POLITICIANS
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jnschicago
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by jnschicago on Aug 26, 2008 17:39:21 GMT 1, Bongo - I'm surprised by your comment. Normally I find your posts either interesting or insightful; sometimes both. In this instance, I think you're off the mark. Most would agree that the U.S. is currently facing a number of enormous challenges. And, the last 8 years have put us in a hole that will be difficult to overcome. Barack Obama emerged as a candidate with the vision and ability to turn the page to a new chapter in American politics. And, his vision captured the imagination of millions of young people across the country including thousands of artists. Those artists are directing that excitement and passion into the only outlet they have...their art. That, in turn, is opening millions more to the message and, more importantly, the political system. By and large, it's very positive. Why diminish it as nothing more than a fetish?
Bongo - I'm surprised by your comment. Normally I find your posts either interesting or insightful; sometimes both. In this instance, I think you're off the mark. Most would agree that the U.S. is currently facing a number of enormous challenges. And, the last 8 years have put us in a hole that will be difficult to overcome. Barack Obama emerged as a candidate with the vision and ability to turn the page to a new chapter in American politics. And, his vision captured the imagination of millions of young people across the country including thousands of artists. Those artists are directing that excitement and passion into the only outlet they have...their art. That, in turn, is opening millions more to the message and, more importantly, the political system. By and large, it's very positive. Why diminish it as nothing more than a fetish?
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BONGO
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 26, 2008 17:53:20 GMT 1, THE AMERICAN SYSTEM DOES NOT ALLOW INTERLOPERS SINCE THE DAYS OF EUGENE DEBS
BONGO SEES OBAMA AS A NEW SALESMAN FOR THE SAME PRODUCT
NOTHING CAN CHANGE IF SOMEONE WANTS THE NOMINATION AS THE ENTIRE SYSTEM OF LOBBY AND PRESSURE GROUPS NEGATES ANY SCENT OF ORIGINALITY
OBAMA IS A PRODUCT OF THE SAME EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE SUPPLIED AMERICA FOR MUCH OF ITS LEADERSHIP - HE MAY BE A DIFFERENT COLOUR, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE
THE AMERICAN SYSTEM DOES NOT ALLOW INTERLOPERS SINCE THE DAYS OF EUGENE DEBS
BONGO SEES OBAMA AS A NEW SALESMAN FOR THE SAME PRODUCT
NOTHING CAN CHANGE IF SOMEONE WANTS THE NOMINATION AS THE ENTIRE SYSTEM OF LOBBY AND PRESSURE GROUPS NEGATES ANY SCENT OF ORIGINALITY
OBAMA IS A PRODUCT OF THE SAME EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE SUPPLIED AMERICA FOR MUCH OF ITS LEADERSHIP - HE MAY BE A DIFFERENT COLOUR, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE
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mcster
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by mcster on Aug 26, 2008 18:10:34 GMT 1, I agree with Bongo to an extent - Obama's colour is actually immaterial as an influence when compared to the system that produced him. Having said that, there will be many people around the World who don't look that deeply into Politics and will see Obama as a welcome change, however true or not this may be. If artists are inspired by this then good to them.
But it's Obama the man people should be inspired by, not Obama as a figurehead for black America, as he clearly represents a very small minority of people that can have his oppotunities.
I agree with Bongo to an extent - Obama's colour is actually immaterial as an influence when compared to the system that produced him. Having said that, there will be many people around the World who don't look that deeply into Politics and will see Obama as a welcome change, however true or not this may be. If artists are inspired by this then good to them.
But it's Obama the man people should be inspired by, not Obama as a figurehead for black America, as he clearly represents a very small minority of people that can have his oppotunities.
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BONGO
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 26, 2008 19:27:36 GMT 1, BONGO DOES NOT EVER REVEAL TURGID PAST, BUT REST ASSURED THAT BONGO KNOWS ABOUT THE AMERICAN POLITICAL SYSTEM IN DETAIL
A POLITICAL SCIENTIST MAY BE HARD PRESSED TO CRITISISE BUSH IN SOME FIELDS- IN MANY WAYS, HE HAS BEEN HONEST TO HIS SUPPORTERS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HIS CORPORATE BACKERS, AS HE INITIALLY PROMISED.
AS IT SAYS ON THE TIN SO TO SPEAK
MCCAIN MAY BE FLAKEY, BUT IS COMMITTED TO HIS RIGHT WING AGENDA AND WILL SEE IT THROUGH
BONGO DOES NOT HAVE ANY PERSONAL DIATRABE AGAINST OBAMA LINED UP, RATHER A GENERAL DISTASTE WITH THE MACHINATIONS OF A SYSTEM THAT DELIVERS AN ATTRACTIVE RETAIL PRODUCT IN PREFERENCE TO A HEALTHY ONE
BONGO DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS POSSIBLE , GIVEN THE WEIGHT OF ECONOMIC PRESSURES FROM CORPORATE AMERICA AND WELL FUNDED LOBBIES THAT HOLD SO MUCH SWAY
OBAMA IS NO CARTER
IS SOME HONESTY BETTER THAN MASS DUPLICITY IN A POLITICIAN BONGO WONDERS ?
DISPLAYING PICTURES OF A POLITICIAN ON A WALL FILLS BONGO WITH UNEASE.
THE HISTORICAL PRECEDENTS AND CONTEMPORARY EXAMPLES OF SUCH BEHAVIOUR DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY SOLACE TO BONGO
BONGO DOES NOT EVER REVEAL TURGID PAST, BUT REST ASSURED THAT BONGO KNOWS ABOUT THE AMERICAN POLITICAL SYSTEM IN DETAIL
A POLITICAL SCIENTIST MAY BE HARD PRESSED TO CRITISISE BUSH IN SOME FIELDS- IN MANY WAYS, HE HAS BEEN HONEST TO HIS SUPPORTERS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HIS CORPORATE BACKERS, AS HE INITIALLY PROMISED.
AS IT SAYS ON THE TIN SO TO SPEAK
MCCAIN MAY BE FLAKEY, BUT IS COMMITTED TO HIS RIGHT WING AGENDA AND WILL SEE IT THROUGH
BONGO DOES NOT HAVE ANY PERSONAL DIATRABE AGAINST OBAMA LINED UP, RATHER A GENERAL DISTASTE WITH THE MACHINATIONS OF A SYSTEM THAT DELIVERS AN ATTRACTIVE RETAIL PRODUCT IN PREFERENCE TO A HEALTHY ONE
BONGO DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS POSSIBLE , GIVEN THE WEIGHT OF ECONOMIC PRESSURES FROM CORPORATE AMERICA AND WELL FUNDED LOBBIES THAT HOLD SO MUCH SWAY
OBAMA IS NO CARTER
IS SOME HONESTY BETTER THAN MASS DUPLICITY IN A POLITICIAN BONGO WONDERS ?
DISPLAYING PICTURES OF A POLITICIAN ON A WALL FILLS BONGO WITH UNEASE.
THE HISTORICAL PRECEDENTS AND CONTEMPORARY EXAMPLES OF SUCH BEHAVIOUR DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY SOLACE TO BONGO
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BONGO
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 26, 2008 19:37:41 GMT 1, BONGO MONEY BACK GUARANTEE
SHOULD OBAMA GET ELECTED AND IN THE NEXT HANDFUL OF YEARS MANAGE TO RADICALLY MANAGE TO TRANSFORM AMERICAN SOCIETY AND PERSPECTIVE ENOUGH TO MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE, THEN BONGO WILL PAY OUT
ON PRODUCTION OF A COPY THIS THREAD TO BONGO, THEN WINNER WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO GRAB AS MUCH ART AS HE / SHE CAN FROM BONGOS GRIMY POMME DE TERRE WALLS.
A SUPERMARKET SWEEP FOR THE BANKSY GENERATION
BONGO MONEY BACK GUARANTEE
SHOULD OBAMA GET ELECTED AND IN THE NEXT HANDFUL OF YEARS MANAGE TO RADICALLY MANAGE TO TRANSFORM AMERICAN SOCIETY AND PERSPECTIVE ENOUGH TO MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE, THEN BONGO WILL PAY OUT
ON PRODUCTION OF A COPY THIS THREAD TO BONGO, THEN WINNER WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO GRAB AS MUCH ART AS HE / SHE CAN FROM BONGOS GRIMY POMME DE TERRE WALLS.
A SUPERMARKET SWEEP FOR THE BANKSY GENERATION
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sonnysides
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by sonnysides on Aug 26, 2008 20:11:34 GMT 1, Bongo, do you do cocaine??
Bongo, do you do cocaine??
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achtungbono
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by achtungbono on Aug 26, 2008 20:40:26 GMT 1, I dont think youve read bongos post properly dude
I dont think youve read bongos post properly dude
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by They call me Stephen on Aug 26, 2008 20:43:18 GMT 1, don't think bongo stated whether or not he supported the conservative party.
i would like to see obama reach the white house. i do not suppect there to be much change if he does however.
don't think bongo stated whether or not he supported the conservative party.
i would like to see obama reach the white house. i do not suppect there to be much change if he does however.
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achtungbono
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by achtungbono on Aug 26, 2008 20:47:30 GMT 1, whers that post gone ?
whers that post gone ?
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jnschicago
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by jnschicago on Aug 27, 2008 6:38:27 GMT 1, It's official...I have lost all respect for Bongo.
You speak in the same tired tone & demeanor of so many others who fancy themselves as informed but, in truth, have a limited grasp (at best) of the real issues. Your posts are so littered with incorrect information that I wouldn't know where to begin. I'll just select a couple at random...
You can't affect change if you're funded by the same lobby groups and special interests? Barack Obama has never accepted a dime from lobbyists from Day 1. A fact that has separated him from all other major candidates in the race (incl. both HRC and JMcC). And, lobbyists have never been allowed on staff (unlike Mr. McCain and most other candidates). So, in fact, Mr. Obama is not funded by the same sources as you suggest. In fact, he was able to mobilize a grass roots organization of millions of Americans who contributed less than $100 to his campaign. Sure, he's also received significant contributions from many wealthy donors (not lobbyists). But, that's great too. Wealthy Americans have the same right as everyone else to contribute to the candidate of their choosing (up to $4,600). Lobbyists, however, have not contributed a dime.
Next, you say McCain will adhere to the Conservative agenda and "see it through." Starting when? John McCain has flip-flopped on every major Conservative cause since the day he first joined the Senate (abortion rights, gun rights, immigration policy, tax cuts, etc. etc. etc.). What in God's name leads you to believe that he'll adhere to anything? Past performance is the best indicator of future behavior. And, past performance suggests that John McCain won't adhere to any principles at all let alone Conservative principles.
You talk about the same institutions that have produced all of America's leaders. In Obama's case that would include Columbia, Harvard and the University of Chicago. These are all world-class institutions of higher learning. They've produced leaders in virtually every field. What's your point? You sound like nothing more than a guy who attended lousy schools and is upset/defensive about it.
It's too bad. There was a time when I thought you were kind of interesting. Oh well. I'm sure I'll find another jackass poster who adopts a monkey persona and types in all-caps.
It's official...I have lost all respect for Bongo.
You speak in the same tired tone & demeanor of so many others who fancy themselves as informed but, in truth, have a limited grasp (at best) of the real issues. Your posts are so littered with incorrect information that I wouldn't know where to begin. I'll just select a couple at random...
You can't affect change if you're funded by the same lobby groups and special interests? Barack Obama has never accepted a dime from lobbyists from Day 1. A fact that has separated him from all other major candidates in the race (incl. both HRC and JMcC). And, lobbyists have never been allowed on staff (unlike Mr. McCain and most other candidates). So, in fact, Mr. Obama is not funded by the same sources as you suggest. In fact, he was able to mobilize a grass roots organization of millions of Americans who contributed less than $100 to his campaign. Sure, he's also received significant contributions from many wealthy donors (not lobbyists). But, that's great too. Wealthy Americans have the same right as everyone else to contribute to the candidate of their choosing (up to $4,600). Lobbyists, however, have not contributed a dime.
Next, you say McCain will adhere to the Conservative agenda and "see it through." Starting when? John McCain has flip-flopped on every major Conservative cause since the day he first joined the Senate (abortion rights, gun rights, immigration policy, tax cuts, etc. etc. etc.). What in God's name leads you to believe that he'll adhere to anything? Past performance is the best indicator of future behavior. And, past performance suggests that John McCain won't adhere to any principles at all let alone Conservative principles.
You talk about the same institutions that have produced all of America's leaders. In Obama's case that would include Columbia, Harvard and the University of Chicago. These are all world-class institutions of higher learning. They've produced leaders in virtually every field. What's your point? You sound like nothing more than a guy who attended lousy schools and is upset/defensive about it.
It's too bad. There was a time when I thought you were kind of interesting. Oh well. I'm sure I'll find another jackass poster who adopts a monkey persona and types in all-caps.
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achtungbono
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by achtungbono on Aug 27, 2008 8:23:53 GMT 1, shit
You really have been mugged havent you ? You actually belive the crap that they tell you on TV.
hes another peoduction line candidate with a different markting plan attached.
grow up and stop reiterating the glib shit that you are drip fed by these people - I used to think this was a forum for thinkers, not repeaters
shit
You really have been mugged havent you ? You actually belive the crap that they tell you on TV.
hes another peoduction line candidate with a different markting plan attached.
grow up and stop reiterating the glib shit that you are drip fed by these people - I used to think this was a forum for thinkers, not repeaters
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by bobbymeachamjr on Aug 27, 2008 8:34:11 GMT 1, Stoops, in the most basic of terms, go through your man Obamas stance on the issues. Hmmmm
Stoops, in the most basic of terms, go through your man Obamas stance on the issues. Hmmmm
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Gentle Mental
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by Gentle Mental on Aug 27, 2008 12:16:02 GMT 1, if obama gets elected, there won't be radical change. you can't radically change a disaster that is America, the beast is too big, but there should be a slow down, and a halt, and perhaps the beginning of something good.
He's the country's only hope.
if he loses - then it would be because of his race. it's the reason why macain and obama are still 50-50 in the polls right now - there are enough scared, racist feelings in the country right now to keep the scale balance...
if obama gets elected, there won't be radical change. you can't radically change a disaster that is America, the beast is too big, but there should be a slow down, and a halt, and perhaps the beginning of something good.
He's the country's only hope.
if he loses - then it would be because of his race. it's the reason why macain and obama are still 50-50 in the polls right now - there are enough scared, racist feelings in the country right now to keep the scale balance...
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shaunyboy
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by shaunyboy on Aug 27, 2008 12:23:45 GMT 1, BONGO DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS POSSIBLE , GIVEN THE WEIGHT OF ECONOMIC PRESSURES FROM CORPORATE AMERICA AND WELL FUNDED LOBBIES THAT HOLD SO MUCH SWAY
If it is significant change you are after, how do you get it?
BONGO DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS POSSIBLE , GIVEN THE WEIGHT OF ECONOMIC PRESSURES FROM CORPORATE AMERICA AND WELL FUNDED LOBBIES THAT HOLD SO MUCH SWAY If it is significant change you are after, how do you get it?
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BONGO
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 27, 2008 12:43:26 GMT 1, NOT BY SUPPORTING A PRODUCTION LINE POLITICIAN
NOT BY SUPPORTING A PRODUCTION LINE POLITICIAN
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shaunyboy
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by shaunyboy on Aug 27, 2008 12:55:17 GMT 1, NOT BY SUPPORTING A PRODUCTION LINE POLITICIAN Agreed. But the more difficult question is what do we do?
NOT BY SUPPORTING A PRODUCTION LINE POLITICIAN Agreed. But the more difficult question is what do we do?
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Gentle Mental
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by Gentle Mental on Aug 27, 2008 14:46:38 GMT 1, i really like this production line politician. his the least "production line" kind i know of.
mr bongo, i understand that American politics cheeses you off, but is the point about him being a "production line" politician that bothers you or the fact that artists and celeb are going all ga ga that is making you angry.
don't quite understand your hate.
I rarely hear a good negative rant on obama, most are just attacks on the system, and I'm really looking forward to hear you explain more. do elaborate.
i really like this production line politician. his the least "production line" kind i know of.
mr bongo, i understand that American politics cheeses you off, but is the point about him being a "production line" politician that bothers you or the fact that artists and celeb are going all ga ga that is making you angry.
don't quite understand your hate.
I rarely hear a good negative rant on obama, most are just attacks on the system, and I'm really looking forward to hear you explain more. do elaborate.
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BONGO
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 28, 2008 9:05:11 GMT 1, BONGO DOES FEEL YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND THE POINTS BEING MADE
BUT BONGO IS HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE A POLITICIAN FOR YOUR WALL AND HOPES THAT YOU GET THE LEADER OF YOUR CHOICE
BONGO DOES FEEL YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND THE POINTS BEING MADE
BUT BONGO IS HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE A POLITICIAN FOR YOUR WALL AND HOPES THAT YOU GET THE LEADER OF YOUR CHOICE
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by onemandown72 on Aug 28, 2008 10:27:27 GMT 1, I feel that there is some truth in both what Bongo and Stoops say. Obama may have well coem through traditional US institutions that breed power brokers, but there is always a very powerful arguement for change from within as opposed to without. For me it would be a huge step forwards for the US to elect a non-white president. Symbolically it is a massive step forwards, and opens to the door to more gradual change. Changing US society, culture, foreign policy and economic attitudes is like turning an oil tanker. If Obama is the first step on this road then that can only be a good thing.
I feel that there is some truth in both what Bongo and Stoops say. Obama may have well coem through traditional US institutions that breed power brokers, but there is always a very powerful arguement for change from within as opposed to without. For me it would be a huge step forwards for the US to elect a non-white president. Symbolically it is a massive step forwards, and opens to the door to more gradual change. Changing US society, culture, foreign policy and economic attitudes is like turning an oil tanker. If Obama is the first step on this road then that can only be a good thing.
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jnschicago
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by jnschicago on Aug 30, 2008 0:47:37 GMT 1, OK! Just back from Denver. Couple things...first, the convention was great. Obama's speech last night has been called one of the greatest convention speeches in U.S. political history. Really great stuff. And, Biden didn't do too badly either. The Manifest Hope Art Show was great! A really cool location. Some great work by Fairey, David Choe and one of my local favorites Cro (aka Ray Noland).
Also, I'm glad to see all of the posts on this topic. It's amazing how this U.S. election has ignited interest around the world. 200,000 in Berlin!?! That's insane.
Anyway, great posts by gentlemental, shaunyboy and onemandown72. And, of course, more great present-tense, allcaps comments from Bongo. Regarding Bobbymeachamjr, what's your point? I'm well versed in Obama's positions. Care to elaborate?
And a final point. To really affect change within the U.S. political system, you have to get elected first. An unfortunate truth. Politicians like Kucinich or Ron Paul are interesting. But, in the end, they don't really have an impact because they're consumate outsiders. The goal is meaningful steps toward progress. Not a full-scale anarchic revolution. Pull your Che posters off the wall and join the rest of us on planet earth. As long as you continue bitching and moaning from the fringe, you'll have no real impact on anything. Join the party and push for what you believe in from the inside. Unless of course, you're not REALLY interested in change...only your image as some kind of pseudo-intellectual jackass with a keen inability to impact your own life let alone others.
OK! Just back from Denver. Couple things...first, the convention was great. Obama's speech last night has been called one of the greatest convention speeches in U.S. political history. Really great stuff. And, Biden didn't do too badly either. The Manifest Hope Art Show was great! A really cool location. Some great work by Fairey, David Choe and one of my local favorites Cro (aka Ray Noland).
Also, I'm glad to see all of the posts on this topic. It's amazing how this U.S. election has ignited interest around the world. 200,000 in Berlin!?! That's insane.
Anyway, great posts by gentlemental, shaunyboy and onemandown72. And, of course, more great present-tense, allcaps comments from Bongo. Regarding Bobbymeachamjr, what's your point? I'm well versed in Obama's positions. Care to elaborate?
And a final point. To really affect change within the U.S. political system, you have to get elected first. An unfortunate truth. Politicians like Kucinich or Ron Paul are interesting. But, in the end, they don't really have an impact because they're consumate outsiders. The goal is meaningful steps toward progress. Not a full-scale anarchic revolution. Pull your Che posters off the wall and join the rest of us on planet earth. As long as you continue bitching and moaning from the fringe, you'll have no real impact on anything. Join the party and push for what you believe in from the inside. Unless of course, you're not REALLY interested in change...only your image as some kind of pseudo-intellectual jackass with a keen inability to impact your own life let alone others.
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BONGO
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 30, 2008 19:38:19 GMT 1, BONGO THINKS A CHOICE BETWEEN MCDONALDS OR BURGER KING IS NO CHOICE AT ALL
BONGO THINKS A CHOICE BETWEEN MCDONALDS OR BURGER KING IS NO CHOICE AT ALL
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by Grubster on Aug 30, 2008 22:05:26 GMT 1, grub thinks bongo dialogue is NUTZZZZZZZZZZ! but some great points, but most of us aren't lobbiest and don't have sway, so when a buzz and a certain wave of hope is so strong you can't help but also hope and want change. are you saying to give up and just do nothing? No, all we have is hope and the courage to change and start holding politicians and cronies accountable for their actions and turn this country into a caring sovereign nation, not a dog eat dog nation but a man help man-kind nation. PEACE
grub thinks bongo dialogue is NUTZZZZZZZZZZ! but some great points, but most of us aren't lobbiest and don't have sway, so when a buzz and a certain wave of hope is so strong you can't help but also hope and want change. are you saying to give up and just do nothing? No, all we have is hope and the courage to change and start holding politicians and cronies accountable for their actions and turn this country into a caring sovereign nation, not a dog eat dog nation but a man help man-kind nation. PEACE
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jnschicago
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by jnschicago on Aug 31, 2008 5:09:35 GMT 1, BONGO ONLY MAKE OBVIOUS SUPERFICIAL POINTS
IF PRESSED, BONGO RESORT TO DUMB CATCH PHRASES AND BAR STOOL PHILOSOPHY
BONGO DUMB
BONGO ONLY MAKE OBVIOUS SUPERFICIAL POINTS
IF PRESSED, BONGO RESORT TO DUMB CATCH PHRASES AND BAR STOOL PHILOSOPHY
BONGO DUMB
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BONGO
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 31, 2008 10:19:23 GMT 1, MASS RALLIES
PICTURES OF POLITICIANS ON WALLS
FLAG WAVING ORCHESTRATED NATIONALISM#
LOYALTY TO MEDIA BRANDED AND TRADEMARKED POLITCAL ORTHODOXY
IF THIS IS THE ANTHITHESIS OF DUMB, THEN BONGO GRACIOUSLY ACCEPT DUMB TAG AND WILL WEAR IT WITH PRIDE
PLEASE KEEP BONGO UPDATED ON MUCH TALKED ABOUT "CHANGE" WHEN IT OCCURS
BONGO OBVIOUSLY NOT SMART ENOUGH TO SEE FOR HIMSELF
BONGO SAYS HAVE A NICE DAY
MASS RALLIES
PICTURES OF POLITICIANS ON WALLS
FLAG WAVING ORCHESTRATED NATIONALISM#
LOYALTY TO MEDIA BRANDED AND TRADEMARKED POLITCAL ORTHODOXY
IF THIS IS THE ANTHITHESIS OF DUMB, THEN BONGO GRACIOUSLY ACCEPT DUMB TAG AND WILL WEAR IT WITH PRIDE
PLEASE KEEP BONGO UPDATED ON MUCH TALKED ABOUT "CHANGE" WHEN IT OCCURS
BONGO OBVIOUSLY NOT SMART ENOUGH TO SEE FOR HIMSELF
BONGO SAYS HAVE A NICE DAY
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 31, 2008 10:20:12 GMT 1, grub thinks bongo dialogue is NUTZZZZZZZZZZ! but some great points, but most of us aren't lobbiest and don't have sway, so when a buzz and a certain wave of hope is so strong you can't help but also hope and want change. are you saying to give up and just do nothing? No, all we have is hope and the courage to change and start holding politicians and cronies accountable for their actions and turn this country into a caring sovereign nation, not a dog eat dog nation but a man help man-kind nation. PEACE
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HOPE
grub thinks bongo dialogue is NUTZZZZZZZZZZ! but some great points, but most of us aren't lobbiest and don't have sway, so when a buzz and a certain wave of hope is so strong you can't help but also hope and want change. are you saying to give up and just do nothing? No, all we have is hope and the courage to change and start holding politicians and cronies accountable for their actions and turn this country into a caring sovereign nation, not a dog eat dog nation but a man help man-kind nation. PEACE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HOPE
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by jp on Aug 31, 2008 11:25:54 GMT 1, MASS RALLIES PICTURES OF POLITICIANS ON WALLS FLAG WAVING ORCHESTRATED NATIONALISM# LOYALTY TO MEDIA BRANDED AND TRADEMARKED POLITCAL ORTHODOXY IF THIS IS THE ANTHITHESIS OF DUMB, THEN BONGO GRACIOUSLY ACCEPT DUMB TAG AND WILL WEAR IT WITH PRIDE PLEASE KEEP BONGO UPDATED ON MUCH TALKED ABOUT "CHANGE" WHEN IT OCCURS BONGO OBVIOUSLY NOT SMART ENOUGH TO SEE FOR HIMSELF BONGO SAYS HAVE A NICE DAY
This post is obnoxious and insulting. I understand the point your are trying to make, but please understand that many Americans are able to see past Barack Obama the persona and make a rational judgment of support based on both his past record as a public servant, and his potential to improve the greater good of both America and the world at large. Rather than looking at the REACTION to Obama by his supporters, what specific issues do you have with his policies and remarks against our current president and the horrific slide our country has taken over the last 8 years?
You lambaste him for his oratory skills but provide no keen incite on specific policy issues.
MASS RALLIES PICTURES OF POLITICIANS ON WALLS FLAG WAVING ORCHESTRATED NATIONALISM# LOYALTY TO MEDIA BRANDED AND TRADEMARKED POLITCAL ORTHODOXY IF THIS IS THE ANTHITHESIS OF DUMB, THEN BONGO GRACIOUSLY ACCEPT DUMB TAG AND WILL WEAR IT WITH PRIDE PLEASE KEEP BONGO UPDATED ON MUCH TALKED ABOUT "CHANGE" WHEN IT OCCURS BONGO OBVIOUSLY NOT SMART ENOUGH TO SEE FOR HIMSELF BONGO SAYS HAVE A NICE DAY This post is obnoxious and insulting. I understand the point your are trying to make, but please understand that many Americans are able to see past Barack Obama the persona and make a rational judgment of support based on both his past record as a public servant, and his potential to improve the greater good of both America and the world at large. Rather than looking at the REACTION to Obama by his supporters, what specific issues do you have with his policies and remarks against our current president and the horrific slide our country has taken over the last 8 years? You lambaste him for his oratory skills but provide no keen incite on specific policy issues.
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