BONGO
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 31, 2008 12:12:21 GMT 1, WHY THINK ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE WHEN YOU CAN SPEND YOUR LIFE DISCUSSING THE MINUTAE OF TWO ESSENTIALLY SIMILAR PRODUCTS WITH DIFFERENT PACKAGING AND MARGINALLY DIFFERENT INGREDIENTS
NO-CAL IS FAMED FOR ITS GIANT REDWOODS, YET SOMETIMES IT IS HARD TO SEE THE WOOD FOR THE TREES
WHY THINK ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE WHEN YOU CAN SPEND YOUR LIFE DISCUSSING THE MINUTAE OF TWO ESSENTIALLY SIMILAR PRODUCTS WITH DIFFERENT PACKAGING AND MARGINALLY DIFFERENT INGREDIENTS
NO-CAL IS FAMED FOR ITS GIANT REDWOODS, YET SOMETIMES IT IS HARD TO SEE THE WOOD FOR THE TREES
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Gentle Mental
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by Gentle Mental on Aug 31, 2008 15:30:50 GMT 1, does that mean you've lost a fair amount of respect for the artists who did a portrait or two for obama? mr bongo?
does that mean you've lost a fair amount of respect for the artists who did a portrait or two for obama? mr bongo?
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jnschicago
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July 2007
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by jnschicago on Aug 31, 2008 15:48:37 GMT 1, OK. This is going to be my last post since this whole "discussion" has become lame and stupid. And, Bongo's points are nothing more than mudslinging. There's no underlying information.
But, his last few posts have essentially stated that the two candidates in the upcoming U.S. election are the same with minor differences in their "packaging." Let's discuss just how similar they are...
One would extend tax breaks to the wealthiest 5% while the other would roll back taxes for 95% of families and increase taxes for the wealthiest 5%.
One is for the "status quo" in healthcare while the other has developed a plan that would extend coverage to the 45MM uninsured Americans.
One supports a woman's right to choose. The other would like to see Roe V. Wade overturned.
One is for an "indefinite" occupation of Iraq. The other would like to begin an immediate phased withdraw.
One is for further developing oil resources to find new sources of production. The other has proposed a significant package of incentives to encourage innovation in new energy sources (wind, solar, ethanol, etc.).
And I've only scratched the surface.
Yeah there are no differences here. Sounds like pretty much the same thing.
And, by the way, Bongo...your cynicism about leadership is a luxury that you can afford because you live in a country that is fundamentally stable and secure with access to transportation, education, health care, etc. Remember...that wasn't always the case. There was a time when your country was a bombed out shell of its former self. But, as a direct result of American leadership (and $) your country was rebuilt brick by brick. Remember the Marshall Plan?
So let's not suggest that leadership doesn't have an impact.
Like I said...I'm done. This has become about as interesting as debating politics with a 4 year old.
OK. This is going to be my last post since this whole "discussion" has become lame and stupid. And, Bongo's points are nothing more than mudslinging. There's no underlying information.
But, his last few posts have essentially stated that the two candidates in the upcoming U.S. election are the same with minor differences in their "packaging." Let's discuss just how similar they are...
One would extend tax breaks to the wealthiest 5% while the other would roll back taxes for 95% of families and increase taxes for the wealthiest 5%.
One is for the "status quo" in healthcare while the other has developed a plan that would extend coverage to the 45MM uninsured Americans.
One supports a woman's right to choose. The other would like to see Roe V. Wade overturned.
One is for an "indefinite" occupation of Iraq. The other would like to begin an immediate phased withdraw.
One is for further developing oil resources to find new sources of production. The other has proposed a significant package of incentives to encourage innovation in new energy sources (wind, solar, ethanol, etc.).
And I've only scratched the surface.
Yeah there are no differences here. Sounds like pretty much the same thing.
And, by the way, Bongo...your cynicism about leadership is a luxury that you can afford because you live in a country that is fundamentally stable and secure with access to transportation, education, health care, etc. Remember...that wasn't always the case. There was a time when your country was a bombed out shell of its former self. But, as a direct result of American leadership (and $) your country was rebuilt brick by brick. Remember the Marshall Plan?
So let's not suggest that leadership doesn't have an impact.
Like I said...I'm done. This has become about as interesting as debating politics with a 4 year old.
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BONGO
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February 2007
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 31, 2008 18:37:22 GMT 1, BONGO HAS BEEN PUT FIRMLY IN PLACE AND BONGO THANKS ALL FOR VALUABLE LESSON IN BOTH HISTORY AND POLITICS
BONGO SLIGHTLY OLDER AND MUCH WISER
BONGO WILL NOT ENTERTAIN SEDITIOUS THOUGHTS AGAIN
BONGO WILL GO WITH FLOW FROM NOW ON
BONGO HAS BEEN PUT FIRMLY IN PLACE AND BONGO THANKS ALL FOR VALUABLE LESSON IN BOTH HISTORY AND POLITICS
BONGO SLIGHTLY OLDER AND MUCH WISER
BONGO WILL NOT ENTERTAIN SEDITIOUS THOUGHTS AGAIN
BONGO WILL GO WITH FLOW FROM NOW ON
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BONGO
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February 2007
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by BONGO on Aug 31, 2008 18:40:07 GMT 1, does that mean you've lost a fair amount of respect for the artists who did a portrait or two for obama? mr bongo?
BONGO CANNOT JUDGE ARTISTS AS THEY MAKE UP OWN MINDS AND BONGO WILL RESPECT THAT & JUDGE ON ARTISTIC OUTPUT ONLY, EVEN IF BONGO DOES NOT AGREE WITH SUBJECT MATTER
BONGO IS HOWEVER SAD THAT WIDER DISCUSSION OF A PARTISAN AND SYMBIOTIC 2 PARTY SYSTEM IS NOT TAKEN UP
does that mean you've lost a fair amount of respect for the artists who did a portrait or two for obama? mr bongo? BONGO CANNOT JUDGE ARTISTS AS THEY MAKE UP OWN MINDS AND BONGO WILL RESPECT THAT & JUDGE ON ARTISTIC OUTPUT ONLY, EVEN IF BONGO DOES NOT AGREE WITH SUBJECT MATTER BONGO IS HOWEVER SAD THAT WIDER DISCUSSION OF A PARTISAN AND SYMBIOTIC 2 PARTY SYSTEM IS NOT TAKEN UP
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Gentle Mental
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Obama Art Show- Denver, by Gentle Mental on Sept 1, 2008 4:12:36 GMT 1, does that mean you've lost a fair amount of respect for the artists who did a portrait or two for obama? mr bongo? BONGO CANNOT JUDGE ARTISTS AS THEY MAKE UP OWN MINDS AND BONGO WILL RESPECT THAT & JUDGE ON ARTISTIC OUTPUT ONLY, EVEN IF BONGO DOES NOT AGREE WITH SUBJECT MATTER BONGO IS HOWEVER SAD THAT WIDER DISCUSSION OF A PARTISAN AND SYMBIOTIC 2 PARTY SYSTEM IS NOT TAKEN UP
I think what Obama's trying (or says he's trying) to do is the closest we've ever gotten to a symbiotic system in America.
I think he has a good chance of scratching the surface, and maybe breaking through.
It's still dirty stuff, no doubt, they all are.
Which nation has the perfect system? None. There wasn't any before, won't be any now or in the future, because we can never be too rich, or too morally satisfied. Everything will eventually rot and corrupt.
How many signed Banksy do you own? Wouldn't that money be better spent on saving lives? I don't want to go there... but.. oh well... in many many ways, we all suck as human beings...
i feel the guilt more because I'm in big developing, struggling Asian city now, and the skies are polluted, the children have lead in their blood, the streets are paved with Starbucks selling coffees that costs more than a villager's weekly wage, and every one is ripping every one off, and here I am, spending thousands on prints!
What I'm saying is, we can give all we have away, but we won't because we are selfish people, so we do other stuff, give some money, volunteer, etc - but one thing I think is useful, is to help the poor, and the voiceless, by getting them Governments that will help them.
Is one of the better things we can actually influence and do.
does that mean you've lost a fair amount of respect for the artists who did a portrait or two for obama? mr bongo? BONGO CANNOT JUDGE ARTISTS AS THEY MAKE UP OWN MINDS AND BONGO WILL RESPECT THAT & JUDGE ON ARTISTIC OUTPUT ONLY, EVEN IF BONGO DOES NOT AGREE WITH SUBJECT MATTER BONGO IS HOWEVER SAD THAT WIDER DISCUSSION OF A PARTISAN AND SYMBIOTIC 2 PARTY SYSTEM IS NOT TAKEN UP I think what Obama's trying (or says he's trying) to do is the closest we've ever gotten to a symbiotic system in America. I think he has a good chance of scratching the surface, and maybe breaking through. It's still dirty stuff, no doubt, they all are. Which nation has the perfect system? None. There wasn't any before, won't be any now or in the future, because we can never be too rich, or too morally satisfied. Everything will eventually rot and corrupt. How many signed Banksy do you own? Wouldn't that money be better spent on saving lives? I don't want to go there... but.. oh well... in many many ways, we all suck as human beings... i feel the guilt more because I'm in big developing, struggling Asian city now, and the skies are polluted, the children have lead in their blood, the streets are paved with Starbucks selling coffees that costs more than a villager's weekly wage, and every one is ripping every one off, and here I am, spending thousands on prints! What I'm saying is, we can give all we have away, but we won't because we are selfish people, so we do other stuff, give some money, volunteer, etc - but one thing I think is useful, is to help the poor, and the voiceless, by getting them Governments that will help them. Is one of the better things we can actually influence and do.
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