I had a PM from 'misterb' a week ago telling me 'I was Walshy' and that under my 2 names I am trying to manipulate prices.
I guess WMH is the same person as he keeps harping on about it.
I posted on a previous thread that Walshy and me are 2 different people so no point in me repeating the whole post.
I generally think people on here are old enough to make up their own minds on the pricing of pieces and what they are worth.
We did have issues with FatherXmas / Lampsy / distinctivevision talking things up and down but was anyone actually believing anything he/they said?

On a more serious note, if you have been fecked around / recieved empty tubes etc.. then you should immediately warn others to avoid this happening to anyone else.

If the forum warned others it may stop the next wave of fakes / scammers before they get as far as the last bunch did.

mister b was banned, its all nonsense. Just someone trying to stir people up more than me

Don't worry.... I'm onto them.

Just to back up zippy - he is a genuine and nice guy and would never be part of something like this

Father xmas/Distinctive vision is a piece of filth, he has never been forgiven since he accused sahoria of faking an illness.

Jboy pass on message?

Think jboy has had hardest of times on here when he has tried to do good. Await message think personally need to look further into thing...s

^^^^wizbong the Syndicate ringleader.......lol.

Nobody is accusing you Sahoria, or me for that matter ha (hopefully not anyhow), i think the thread has just become distorted now. I know you have had many stays in hospital re. tests etc. and glad as always to cheer you along if possible so no worries there.

From what I saw in my family history, the art world is maybe the world less ethical business.

I've seen dealers negotiate major artworks pretending them to be fakes so they can buy them cheaper. You can find art galleries selling prints and paintings 10/20 times more what they would be worth at any auction house and convincing unfamiliar buyers that they're making an amazing investment....

To come back to the subject, anyone buying at auction knows that they are pools of buyers/dealers. To have seen one work what I can say is that basically they meet prior to an auction and they just split what eveyone wants to purchase and there's a non aggression pact (so prices won't rise too much). When a buyer is not a dealer or a newcomer, some bids are placed for the newcomer to have to pay more than what he thought he would bid for (not like shill bidding but close)

Anyone that attended an auction house knows that bidding on a live auction and being in the room is really psychological and fast. A lot of people ends up buying stuff for a lot more than what they were intended to bid.

So yeah price fixing is an issue but has been done forever in the art world. Anyway, Zippy is right every one is old enough to make up their mind and to make decisions. Usually, people who agreed to pay the high price is whether rich buyers that just like the piece and don't care about how much they're going to pay for it or newcomers that didn't make any research on what they were bidding on..

How many people are going to watch the 13 videos composing the debate?

In response to who tried to scam me sending me an empty tupe after I purchased a signed CND, the link is here: urbanartassociation.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=36045&page=1


name: Danny Bell
his old ebay name: ukcartellimited
which was changed to: dna-records (this was over a year ago, no idea what it is now)

Paypal address: paypal@dna-wear.co.uk

He is still around- I saw on the net "DNA Wear Records sponsors the Graffiti Jam - See the amazing artists battling it out to see who can create the best masterpiece" at some SXFestival in Essex a few months ago and that's where his shop was last year when I tried to deal with him.

3 addresses I get when googling him: 1 Warrior Square North, Southend, Essex, SS1 2JN, OR 115 Sutton Road, Southend, Essex, SS2 5PB or DNA Wear Ltd
353 Chartwell Square, Victoria Plaza, Southend on Sea, Essex SS2 5SP

Tel: 0870 1997 667

this sounds great! how can I join? is there some ritual involved when you join? I love a bit of drama..

Caveat Emptor.

I've had worse, count me in!