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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by walshy on Aug 31, 2010 12:33:04 GMT 1, Well all I know is, if you wanted something like that to work, you would need to pump a serious amount of cash into a specific artist to make it work. You need to be talking about 10's if not 100'sk on any 1 print, let alone an artists whole body of work
Well all I know is, if you wanted something like that to work, you would need to pump a serious amount of cash into a specific artist to make it work. You need to be talking about 10's if not 100'sk on any 1 print, let alone an artists whole body of work
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by wizzy on Aug 31, 2010 12:35:35 GMT 1, You talking specifically about forums and / or members now Silky or in the wider market?. I reckon those Beejoir Blurry Mary's should be worth a small fortune by now btw.. just saying.
You talking specifically about forums and / or members now Silky or in the wider market?. I reckon those Beejoir Blurry Mary's should be worth a small fortune by now btw.. just saying.
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by wizzy on Aug 31, 2010 12:36:47 GMT 1, Well all I know is, if you wanted something like that to work, you would need to pump a serious amount of cash into a specific artist to make it work. You need to be talking about 10's if not 100'sk on any 1 print, let alone an artists whole body of work
Unless of course the Artist is in on it as well Walshy.
Well all I know is, if you wanted something like that to work, you would need to pump a serious amount of cash into a specific artist to make it work. You need to be talking about 10's if not 100'sk on any 1 print, let alone an artists whole body of work Unless of course the Artist is in on it as well Walshy. |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by ricobenfico on Aug 31, 2010 12:36:59 GMT 1, ;DSomething I have wondered about is do groups buy up work by an Artist, then work together hyping them up over a few months, and then all sell up, while continuing to hype eachothers sales. And also try to trash threads about other artists just for the purpose of protecting their group investment. What do you think?
Well if they didn't before, they know how to now!  ;D
;D Something I have wondered about is do groups buy up work by an Artist, then work together hyping them up over a few months, and then all sell up, while continuing to hype eachothers sales. And also try to trash threads about other artists just for the purpose of protecting their group investment. What do you think? Well if they didn't before, they know how to now! ;D |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by schlomo on Aug 31, 2010 12:38:03 GMT 1, Apparently Dan Browns new book is to be called 'The Banksy Forum Code', it will be made into a film, and will answer all of the syndicate questions (have you ever shone a UV light on a rude copper print??)....
Word on the streets is that JB will be played by Danny Devito.... more info to come as and when i make it up....
Apparently Dan Browns new book is to be called 'The Banksy Forum Code', it will be made into a film, and will answer all of the syndicate questions (have you ever shone a UV light on a rude copper print??)....
Word on the streets is that JB will be played by Danny Devito.... more info to come as and when i make it up....
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Daniel Silk on Aug 31, 2010 12:39:09 GMT 1, But if they try to limit what we all collect by rubbishing other Artists work, and only allowing discussion about who they choose.
What my main job here is to encourage constructive discussion about ALL artists work, but I don't think its the same across all forums.
But if they try to limit what we all collect by rubbishing other Artists work, and only allowing discussion about who they choose.
What my main job here is to encourage constructive discussion about ALL artists work, but I don't think its the same across all forums.
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Deleted on Aug 31, 2010 12:40:47 GMT 1, hahaha, nice one Schlo! So Robert Langdon is one of the forum members on here..
what Silky describes is more or less what happened with the Warhol works by those immense rich father and son.. forgot their name..
hahaha, nice one Schlo! So Robert Langdon is one of the forum members on here..
what Silky describes is more or less what happened with the Warhol works by those immense rich father and son.. forgot their name..
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Daniel Silk on Aug 31, 2010 12:40:50 GMT 1, You talking specifically about forums and / or members now Silky or in the wider market?. I reckon those Beejoir Blurry Mary's should be worth a small fortune by now btw.. just saying.
The wider market, the whole scene.
Perfect example
You talking specifically about forums and / or members now Silky or in the wider market?. I reckon those Beejoir Blurry Mary's should be worth a small fortune by now btw.. just saying. The wider market, the whole scene. Perfect example |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Daniel Silk on Aug 31, 2010 12:41:45 GMT 1, hahaha, nice one Schlo! So Robert Langdon is one of the forum members on here.. what Silky describes is more or less what happened with the Warhol works by those immense rich father and son.. forgot their name..
I seem to remember a youtube video about that  I will see if I can find it.
hahaha, nice one Schlo! So Robert Langdon is one of the forum members on here.. what Silky describes is more or less what happened with the Warhol works by those immense rich father and son.. forgot their name.. I seem to remember a youtube video about that I will see if I can find it. |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by wizzy on Aug 31, 2010 12:43:05 GMT 1, I agree Silky and i think i know what you are saying? if i understand it correctly what you mean is that Beejoirs Blurry Mary is the next big thing? yet work from other Artists is widely available of course.
I agree Silky and i think i know what you are saying? if i understand it correctly what you mean is that Beejoirs Blurry Mary is the next big thing? yet work from other Artists is widely available of course. |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by bullet on Aug 31, 2010 12:48:25 GMT 1, But if they try to limit what we all collect by rubbishing other Artists work, and only allowing discussion about who they choose. What my main job here is to encourage constructive discussion about ALL artists work, but I don't think its the same across all forums.
hence a forum somewhere online thats called the banksy forum.
get with the times. no one just wants to talk about banksy.
But if they try to limit what we all collect by rubbishing other Artists work, and only allowing discussion about who they choose. What my main job here is to encourage constructive discussion about ALL artists work, but I don't think its the same across all forums. hence a forum somewhere online thats called the banksy forum. get with the times. no one just wants to talk about banksy. |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by walshy on Aug 31, 2010 12:51:02 GMT 1, What my main job here is to encourage constructive discussion about ALL artists work, but I don't think its the same across all forums.
To say that all artists are promoted here on the same level is wrong. Your star system is a prime example of that.... Its obvious different forums are more into different artist, as its mostly different people contributing.
...Although to collect art based on certain peoples opinions on a certain forum is insane from the start
What my main job here is to encourage constructive discussion about ALL artists work, but I don't think its the same across all forums. To say that all artists are promoted here on the same level is wrong. Your star system is a prime example of that.... Its obvious different forums are more into different artist, as its mostly different people contributing. ...Although to collect art based on certain peoples opinions on a certain forum is insane from the start |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by willywonka on Aug 31, 2010 12:53:06 GMT 1, But if they try to limit what we all collect by rubbishing other Artists work, and only allowing discussion about who they choose. What my main job here is to encourage constructive discussion about ALL artists work, but I don't think its the same across all forums. hence a forum somewhere online thats called the banksy forum. get with the times. no one just wants to talk about banksy.
Why even make this comment.
But if they try to limit what we all collect by rubbishing other Artists work, and only allowing discussion about who they choose. What my main job here is to encourage constructive discussion about ALL artists work, but I don't think its the same across all forums. hence a forum somewhere online thats called the banksy forum. get with the times. no one just wants to talk about banksy. Why even make this comment. |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by bullet on Aug 31, 2010 12:53:46 GMT 1, because its my opinion. hence why this forum works for a wider audience.
its the reason why this place changed its name. it makes sense with the amount of discussion that goes on.
because its my opinion. hence why this forum works for a wider audience.
its the reason why this place changed its name. it makes sense with the amount of discussion that goes on.
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Daniel Silk on Aug 31, 2010 12:54:01 GMT 1, The sad thing is that it appears some people do buy art just by the opinions of others on internet forums 
I guess thats partly why we see so much work for up for resale at bellow cost so soon after it was received.
The sad thing is that it appears some people do buy art just by the opinions of others on internet forums I guess thats partly why we see so much work for up for resale at bellow cost so soon after it was received. |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by wizzy on Aug 31, 2010 13:01:51 GMT 1, Could be i suppose. People will always be influenced by others and their opinions to some extent though i suppose?.
Could be i suppose. People will always be influenced by others and their opinions to some extent though i suppose?.
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Brushstrokes 75 on Aug 31, 2010 13:04:17 GMT 1, @ Silky : are you talking about the mughrabi family ,and the video that pure evil posted?
@ Silky : are you talking about the mughrabi family ,and the video that pure evil posted?
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Daniel Silk on Aug 31, 2010 13:06:10 GMT 1, @ Silky : are you talking about the mughrabi family ,and the video that pure evil posted?
ahhhh! thats the one  thanks!
@ Silky : are you talking about the mughrabi family ,and the video that pure evil posted? ahhhh! thats the one thanks! |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by rowan on Aug 31, 2010 13:12:05 GMT 1, I think it’s amazing how far down the rabbit hole this forum goes... Some forum topics come right out of the blue and bring up allot more than just art discussion! Some valid and some not so!...
I think we tend to see people being slagged off from time to time on here but when it involves people being ripped off or taken for a ride then I think we are talking about something completely different.
I think if there is a known problem then it should be openly discussed and hopefully resolved!
I think it’s amazing how far down the rabbit hole this forum goes... Some forum topics come right out of the blue and bring up allot more than just art discussion! Some valid and some not so!...
I think we tend to see people being slagged off from time to time on here but when it involves people being ripped off or taken for a ride then I think we are talking about something completely different.
I think if there is a known problem then it should be openly discussed and hopefully resolved!
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Daniel Silk on Aug 31, 2010 13:14:45 GMT 1, Yeah, people buying art just because they think its the in thing is totally impossible to stop, its just the way those people live their lives, and what they enjoy doing.
Yeah, people buying art just because they think its the in thing is totally impossible to stop, its just the way those people live their lives, and what they enjoy doing.
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Sohoria on Aug 31, 2010 17:27:46 GMT 1, @ Walshy - not accusing you mate meant in general.
Did post about the documentary but see already been mentioned so edited...s
@ Walshy - not accusing you mate meant in general.
Did post about the documentary but see already been mentioned so edited...s
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by walshy on Aug 31, 2010 17:30:57 GMT 1, @ Walshy - not accusing you mate meant in general. Did post about the documentary but see already been mentioned so edited...s
no worries, just wanted to clear that up for others reading mainly
@ Walshy - not accusing you mate meant in general. Did post about the documentary but see already been mentioned so edited...s no worries, just wanted to clear that up for others reading mainly |
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Zippy on Aug 31, 2010 17:51:39 GMT 1, Maybe the person making the accusations of 'price fixing' is the real ringleader?
By starting off these accusations he has cleverly managed to deflect the attention away from himself whilst pointing the spotlight at others.
very clever.
Maybe the person making the accusations of 'price fixing' is the real ringleader?
By starting off these accusations he has cleverly managed to deflect the attention away from himself whilst pointing the spotlight at others.
very clever.
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Zippy on Aug 31, 2010 17:53:21 GMT 1, Smoke and mirrors 
Meaning
Trickery or deception, often in a political context.
Origin
This expression alludes to the performances of stage conjurers who use actual smoke and mirrors to deceive the audience. The figurative use that is now more common refers to the obscuring or embellishing of the truth that is employed by spin doctors and the like in order to deceive the general public.
Smoke and mirrors Meaning Trickery or deception, often in a political context. Origin This expression alludes to the performances of stage conjurers who use actual smoke and mirrors to deceive the audience. The figurative use that is now more common refers to the obscuring or embellishing of the truth that is employed by spin doctors and the like in order to deceive the general public.
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by They call me Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 18:07:29 GMT 1,
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by wizzy on Aug 31, 2010 18:20:36 GMT 1, Is this actually for real then? i thought it was a sort of jokey funny thread but reading through i suspect its for real!. Who are the fixers then please?.
Is this actually for real then? i thought it was a sort of jokey funny thread but reading through i suspect its for real!. Who are the fixers then please?.
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by walshy on Aug 31, 2010 18:26:11 GMT 1, 100% real in the art world, but impossible to pull off on a single forum. Its just people who dont get offered what they think there prints are worth, kicking off
100% real in the art world, but impossible to pull off on a single forum. Its just people who dont get offered what they think there prints are worth, kicking off
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by Zippy on Aug 31, 2010 18:36:07 GMT 1, One name that keeps coming up is 'Wizbong Mugrabe' who privately owns up to 800 Cartrain pieces.
One name that keeps coming up is 'Wizbong Mugrabe' who privately owns up to 800 Cartrain pieces.
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by wizzy on Aug 31, 2010 18:44:26 GMT 1, Thats it then innit, the games up ha!. I do have some Cartrains though.
Thats it then innit, the games up ha!. I do have some Cartrains though.
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Price Fixing Syndicate?, by curiousgeorge on Aug 31, 2010 18:54:32 GMT 1, 100% real in the art world, but impossible to pull off on a single forum. Its just people who dont get offered what they think there prints are worth, kicking off
Not impossible imho
IF you owned 10 NOLA prints right now you could easily manipulate prices
I'm aware of a few people who talk down the prices of signed banksy prints (mostly) though i won't name them as I've only come by this info by reading the forum
I think it does happen but perhaps not to the extent of the when the market peaked.People openly flipping prints for 2/3 times cost price within days of buying the print all with virtual pats on the back from forum friends
ahhh the good old days....
100% real in the art world, but impossible to pull off on a single forum. Its just people who dont get offered what they think there prints are worth, kicking off Not impossible imho IF you owned 10 NOLA prints right now you could easily manipulate prices I'm aware of a few people who talk down the prices of signed banksy prints (mostly) though i won't name them as I've only come by this info by reading the forum I think it does happen but perhaps not to the extent of the when the market peaked.People openly flipping prints for 2/3 times cost price within days of buying the print all with virtual pats on the back from forum friends ahhh the good old days.... |
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I will see if I can find it.
thanks!
