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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Dice on Dec 4, 2020 8:53:44 GMT 1, The unsigned on eBay along with the choppers both sold yesterday, either a coincidence or the auction had an influence and made a buyer see them as good investments
The LIITA was ended but not sold (on eBay)
The unsigned on eBay along with the choppers both sold yesterday, either a coincidence or the auction had an influence and made a buyer see them as good investments The LIITA was ended but not sold (on eBay) |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by The Italian One on Dec 4, 2020 8:54:54 GMT 1, The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack?
underrated at the moment (an important story behind this image )
The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack? pulp fiction underrated at the moment (an important story behind this image ) |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Deleted on Dec 4, 2020 10:44:29 GMT 1, The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack? pulp fiction underrated at the moment (an important story behind this image )
The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack? pulp fiction underrated at the moment (an important story behind this image ) What's the story behind it? I've always considered it one of his weaker images, but that was from viewing it just as a Pulp Fiction gag. Would love to know more. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by The Italian One on Dec 4, 2020 10:56:44 GMT 1, pulp fiction underrated at the moment (an important story behind this image ) What's the story behind it? I've always considered it one of his weaker images, but that was from viewing it just as a Pulp Fiction gag. Would love to know more.
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"""""""Find out more about Banksy’s ‘Pulp Fiction’ series, browse prints & editions for sale & view the works wanted by active buyers right now.
Banksy’s Pulp Fiction depicts a famous scene from the eponymous 1994 film by Quentin Tarantino. It was released in 2004 an edition of just 150 official Pulp Fiction signed and 600 unsigned prints. However, it first appeared in 2002 as a stencilled composition in the streets of London, near Old Street tube station. It was visible until 2007, until Transport for London painted over the wall, estimated at £300,000, on the grounds that the work lent an atmosphere of social decay and neglect in the capital, despite the well-known drawing art fans and tourists to the area. When the mural was covered, a local artist sprayed-painted the words “Come Back” in its place, addressed to Banksy. Banksy then re-tagged his original Pulp Fiction in exactly the same place, but this time the characters were holding real pistols and wearing banana costumes instead.
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In January 2007, the late graffiti artist Ozone wrote over the new piece with the words “If it's better next time I'll leave it”. The 19-year-old artist tragically passed away a few days later, along with fellow artist Wants, after both were hit by an underground train in Barking, East London. Banksy created another piece over his original Pulp Fiction mural in tribute to the two young graffiti artists, depicting an angel wearing a bulletproof vest and holding a skull in his right hand. He also posted a note on his website that read “When we lost Ozone we lost a fearless graffiti writer and as it turns out a pretty perceptive art critic. Ozone – rest in peace”. The tribute mural was quickly referred to as “Ozone's Angel”. Subsequently, Banksy's original Pulp Fiction mural also became immediately popular, and was mass-reproduced on commercial merchandise.
The work depicts the two characters played by Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta in the 1994 American film Pulp Fiction. Rendered in white stencilled forms on a black background, Banksy's version presents the protagonists Vincent and Jules, side-by-side and aiming their firearms in synchronisation. However, in a humorous and ironic twist, their pistols have been replaced by bright yellow bananas, the only touch of colour in the otherwise monochrome composition.
WHY IS PULP FICTION IMPORTANT?
Pulp Fiction first appears lighthearted, paying homage to the film and other aspects of popular culture. In fact, Banksy uses humour to subversively undermine ideas of war and violence, transforming the scene into something harmless and even laughable. Pulp Fiction has also been interpreted as a comment by Banksy on America's foreign policy, which he often overtly criticises, as can be seen in the works Have A Nice Day, Applause, Bomb Hugger or Flags.
Why we love Pulp Fiction… ‘There are several references to popular culture in Banksy's Pulp Fiction, in addition to the obvious reference to Tarantino's cult film. The bananas used as guns are also reminiscent of Andy Warhol's iconic 1967 album cover for American band The Velvet Underground, which depicts a banana on a monochrome background. They also recall Monty Python's sketch “Self Defence Against Fresh Fruit”, which appeared in the episode "Owl-Stretching Time" from Monty Python’s Flying Circus in 1969, in which an instructor teaches a class how to defend oneself against an assailant armed with a piece of fruit.’ """""""""
pulp fiction underrated at the moment (an important story behind this image ) What's the story behind it? I've always considered it one of his weaker images, but that was from viewing it just as a Pulp Fiction gag. Would love to know more. first find on google search """""""Find out more about Banksy’s ‘Pulp Fiction’ series, browse prints & editions for sale & view the works wanted by active buyers right now. Banksy’s Pulp Fiction depicts a famous scene from the eponymous 1994 film by Quentin Tarantino. It was released in 2004 an edition of just 150 official Pulp Fiction signed and 600 unsigned prints. However, it first appeared in 2002 as a stencilled composition in the streets of London, near Old Street tube station. It was visible until 2007, until Transport for London painted over the wall, estimated at £300,000, on the grounds that the work lent an atmosphere of social decay and neglect in the capital, despite the well-known drawing art fans and tourists to the area. When the mural was covered, a local artist sprayed-painted the words “Come Back” in its place, addressed to Banksy. Banksy then re-tagged his original Pulp Fiction in exactly the same place, but this time the characters were holding real pistols and wearing banana costumes instead. READ LESS In January 2007, the late graffiti artist Ozone wrote over the new piece with the words “If it's better next time I'll leave it”. The 19-year-old artist tragically passed away a few days later, along with fellow artist Wants, after both were hit by an underground train in Barking, East London. Banksy created another piece over his original Pulp Fiction mural in tribute to the two young graffiti artists, depicting an angel wearing a bulletproof vest and holding a skull in his right hand. He also posted a note on his website that read “When we lost Ozone we lost a fearless graffiti writer and as it turns out a pretty perceptive art critic. Ozone – rest in peace”. The tribute mural was quickly referred to as “Ozone's Angel”. Subsequently, Banksy's original Pulp Fiction mural also became immediately popular, and was mass-reproduced on commercial merchandise. The work depicts the two characters played by Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta in the 1994 American film Pulp Fiction. Rendered in white stencilled forms on a black background, Banksy's version presents the protagonists Vincent and Jules, side-by-side and aiming their firearms in synchronisation. However, in a humorous and ironic twist, their pistols have been replaced by bright yellow bananas, the only touch of colour in the otherwise monochrome composition. WHY IS PULP FICTION IMPORTANT? Pulp Fiction first appears lighthearted, paying homage to the film and other aspects of popular culture. In fact, Banksy uses humour to subversively undermine ideas of war and violence, transforming the scene into something harmless and even laughable. Pulp Fiction has also been interpreted as a comment by Banksy on America's foreign policy, which he often overtly criticises, as can be seen in the works Have A Nice Day, Applause, Bomb Hugger or Flags. Why we love Pulp Fiction… ‘There are several references to popular culture in Banksy's Pulp Fiction, in addition to the obvious reference to Tarantino's cult film. The bananas used as guns are also reminiscent of Andy Warhol's iconic 1967 album cover for American band The Velvet Underground, which depicts a banana on a monochrome background. They also recall Monty Python's sketch “Self Defence Against Fresh Fruit”, which appeared in the episode "Owl-Stretching Time" from Monty Python’s Flying Circus in 1969, in which an instructor teaches a class how to defend oneself against an assailant armed with a piece of fruit.’ """"""""" |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Deleted on Dec 4, 2020 11:01:36 GMT 1, What's the story behind it? I've always considered it one of his weaker images, but that was from viewing it just as a Pulp Fiction gag. Would love to know more. first find on google search """""""Find out more about Banksy’s ‘Pulp Fiction’ series, browse prints & editions for sale & view the works wanted by active buyers right now. Banksy’s Pulp Fiction depicts a famous scene from the eponymous 1994 film by Quentin Tarantino. It was released in 2004 an edition of just 150 official Pulp Fiction signed and 600 unsigned prints. However, it first appeared in 2002 as a stencilled composition in the streets of London, near Old Street tube station. It was visible until 2007, until Transport for London painted over the wall, estimated at £300,000, on the grounds that the work lent an atmosphere of social decay and neglect in the capital, despite the well-known drawing art fans and tourists to the area. When the mural was covered, a local artist sprayed-painted the words “Come Back” in its place, addressed to Banksy. Banksy then re-tagged his original Pulp Fiction in exactly the same place, but this time the characters were holding real pistols and wearing banana costumes instead. READ LESS In January 2007, the late graffiti artist Ozone wrote over the new piece with the words “If it's better next time I'll leave it”. The 19-year-old artist tragically passed away a few days later, along with fellow artist Wants, after both were hit by an underground train in Barking, East London. Banksy created another piece over his original Pulp Fiction mural in tribute to the two young graffiti artists, depicting an angel wearing a bulletproof vest and holding a skull in his right hand. He also posted a note on his website that read “When we lost Ozone we lost a fearless graffiti writer and as it turns out a pretty perceptive art critic. Ozone – rest in peace”. The tribute mural was quickly referred to as “Ozone's Angel”. Subsequently, Banksy's original Pulp Fiction mural also became immediately popular, and was mass-reproduced on commercial merchandise. The work depicts the two characters played by Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta in the 1994 American film Pulp Fiction. Rendered in white stencilled forms on a black background, Banksy's version presents the protagonists Vincent and Jules, side-by-side and aiming their firearms in synchronisation. However, in a humorous and ironic twist, their pistols have been replaced by bright yellow bananas, the only touch of colour in the otherwise monochrome composition. WHY IS PULP FICTION IMPORTANT? Pulp Fiction first appears lighthearted, paying homage to the film and other aspects of popular culture. In fact, Banksy uses humour to subversively undermine ideas of war and violence, transforming the scene into something harmless and even laughable. Pulp Fiction has also been interpreted as a comment by Banksy on America's foreign policy, which he often overtly criticises, as can be seen in the works Have A Nice Day, Applause, Bomb Hugger or Flags. Why we love Pulp Fiction… ‘There are several references to popular culture in Banksy's Pulp Fiction, in addition to the obvious reference to Tarantino's cult film. The bananas used as guns are also reminiscent of Andy Warhol's iconic 1967 album cover for American band The Velvet Underground, which depicts a banana on a monochrome background. They also recall Monty Python's sketch “Self Defence Against Fresh Fruit”, which appeared in the episode "Owl-Stretching Time" from Monty Python’s Flying Circus in 1969, in which an instructor teaches a class how to defend oneself against an assailant armed with a piece of fruit.’ """""""""
What's the story behind it? I've always considered it one of his weaker images, but that was from viewing it just as a Pulp Fiction gag. Would love to know more. first find on google search """""""Find out more about Banksy’s ‘Pulp Fiction’ series, browse prints & editions for sale & view the works wanted by active buyers right now. Banksy’s Pulp Fiction depicts a famous scene from the eponymous 1994 film by Quentin Tarantino. It was released in 2004 an edition of just 150 official Pulp Fiction signed and 600 unsigned prints. However, it first appeared in 2002 as a stencilled composition in the streets of London, near Old Street tube station. It was visible until 2007, until Transport for London painted over the wall, estimated at £300,000, on the grounds that the work lent an atmosphere of social decay and neglect in the capital, despite the well-known drawing art fans and tourists to the area. When the mural was covered, a local artist sprayed-painted the words “Come Back” in its place, addressed to Banksy. Banksy then re-tagged his original Pulp Fiction in exactly the same place, but this time the characters were holding real pistols and wearing banana costumes instead. READ LESS In January 2007, the late graffiti artist Ozone wrote over the new piece with the words “If it's better next time I'll leave it”. The 19-year-old artist tragically passed away a few days later, along with fellow artist Wants, after both were hit by an underground train in Barking, East London. Banksy created another piece over his original Pulp Fiction mural in tribute to the two young graffiti artists, depicting an angel wearing a bulletproof vest and holding a skull in his right hand. He also posted a note on his website that read “When we lost Ozone we lost a fearless graffiti writer and as it turns out a pretty perceptive art critic. Ozone – rest in peace”. The tribute mural was quickly referred to as “Ozone's Angel”. Subsequently, Banksy's original Pulp Fiction mural also became immediately popular, and was mass-reproduced on commercial merchandise. The work depicts the two characters played by Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta in the 1994 American film Pulp Fiction. Rendered in white stencilled forms on a black background, Banksy's version presents the protagonists Vincent and Jules, side-by-side and aiming their firearms in synchronisation. However, in a humorous and ironic twist, their pistols have been replaced by bright yellow bananas, the only touch of colour in the otherwise monochrome composition. WHY IS PULP FICTION IMPORTANT? Pulp Fiction first appears lighthearted, paying homage to the film and other aspects of popular culture. In fact, Banksy uses humour to subversively undermine ideas of war and violence, transforming the scene into something harmless and even laughable. Pulp Fiction has also been interpreted as a comment by Banksy on America's foreign policy, which he often overtly criticises, as can be seen in the works Have A Nice Day, Applause, Bomb Hugger or Flags. Why we love Pulp Fiction… ‘There are several references to popular culture in Banksy's Pulp Fiction, in addition to the obvious reference to Tarantino's cult film. The bananas used as guns are also reminiscent of Andy Warhol's iconic 1967 album cover for American band The Velvet Underground, which depicts a banana on a monochrome background. They also recall Monty Python's sketch “Self Defence Against Fresh Fruit”, which appeared in the episode "Owl-Stretching Time" from Monty Python’s Flying Circus in 1969, in which an instructor teaches a class how to defend oneself against an assailant armed with a piece of fruit.’ """"""""" Ah, sorry, I thought you meant more story behind the print image, rather than what happened to the original later. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by The Italian One on Dec 4, 2020 11:06:42 GMT 1, molotov become a flower bouquet
guns become a banana's fruit
very similar
one painted in bethlem where riot are frequent
one painted in London in a dangerous area (I think back in the day that area had a record number for gun's deaths)
molotov become a flower bouquet
guns become a banana's fruit
very similar
one painted in bethlem where riot are frequent
one painted in London in a dangerous area (I think back in the day that area had a record number for gun's deaths)
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Dexter Bulldog on Dec 4, 2020 12:25:31 GMT 1, The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack? Choose your weapon I think is about to have a huge moment after this yellow in half a day or whatever.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by begs on Dec 4, 2020 13:04:52 GMT 1, Gob smacked , more than a Girl With Balloon
Gob smacked , more than a Girl With Balloon
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by begs on Dec 4, 2020 13:08:11 GMT 1, The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack? Choose Your Weapon would be my guess. Amazing image and each color(apart from the two greys)is a run of only 25.
yes totally think your right on the Choose your weapon
The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack? Choose Your Weapon would be my guess. Amazing image and each color(apart from the two greys)is a run of only 25. yes totally think your right on the Choose your weapon |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Hubble Bubble on Dec 4, 2020 13:14:01 GMT 1, The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack?
The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack? Cue thirty pages of folk suggesting prints they own... |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by The Italian One on Dec 4, 2020 14:15:08 GMT 1, The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack? Cue thirty pages of folk suggesting prints they own... 
The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack? Cue thirty pages of folk suggesting prints they own... nothing wrong to like the art you own |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by 18921892 on Dec 4, 2020 14:29:12 GMT 1, Gob smacked , more than a Girl With Balloon
Gob smacked , more than a Girl With Balloon The GWB was trimmed in both directions, odd size. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by gimmeabreak on Dec 4, 2020 15:00:10 GMT 1, The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack?
Something like CYW will clearly fetch a premium. That said, I expect the entire edition is in pristine condition, so in theory there is decent supply.
Based on the above, my eyes are on: Barcode, Laugh Now, Happy Choppers, Monkey Queen, HMV, Flying Copper, Pulp Fiction, Radar Rat, Placard Rats, CND, and J&J. Particularly signed versions of these, which I expect are in short supply by now.
The big question is which image will be next to pull away from the pack? I think most of the prints made before Barely Legal will reach this point, since people did not treat these "pre-fame" editions with due care. I am confident that almost half of each edition ended up in a bin, or stapled to a wall, or worse. This mainly applies to the editions that sold out as of 2005; many created pre-2005 stayed in stock until Banksy picked up fame, and then people scooped them up, so this would not apply to those. Something like CYW will clearly fetch a premium. That said, I expect the entire edition is in pristine condition, so in theory there is decent supply. Based on the above, my eyes are on: Barcode, Laugh Now, Happy Choppers, Monkey Queen, HMV, Flying Copper, Pulp Fiction, Radar Rat, Placard Rats, CND, and J&J. Particularly signed versions of these, which I expect are in short supply by now. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Sundowner on Dec 4, 2020 15:08:51 GMT 1, Clearly the market is now very image dependent and signed vs unsigned and edition size has become less of a consideration for new buyers. That said I think there are some classic and well-known early images (Happy Choppers, Laugh Now and Flying Copper particularly) that I think have mileage and the rarer/smaller editions (Kate, Radar Rat) will continue to rise due to scarcity.
It will be interesting to see how things pan out at the rest of the auctions before Christmas and into 2021.
Clearly the market is now very image dependent and signed vs unsigned and edition size has become less of a consideration for new buyers. That said I think there are some classic and well-known early images (Happy Choppers, Laugh Now and Flying Copper particularly) that I think have mileage and the rarer/smaller editions (Kate, Radar Rat) will continue to rise due to scarcity.
It will be interesting to see how things pan out at the rest of the auctions before Christmas and into 2021.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by vandamme on Dec 4, 2020 21:33:08 GMT 1, Was there any other banksys for sale at this auction
Was there any other banksys for sale at this auction
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by robo on Dec 4, 2020 23:37:23 GMT 1, Was there any other banksys for sale at this auction
One original. Che on skates. Details above.
Was there any other banksys for sale at this auction One original. Che on skates. Details above. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by vandamme on Dec 5, 2020 2:32:42 GMT 1, thanks
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by jimmyjam on Dec 18, 2020 8:09:13 GMT 1, I like how the seller posted how he/she/a gallery bids up auction prices / sets prices only to sell his/hers/ the gallery’s one for more. Classic way how people/galleries try and manipulated auction prices and art values.
“You have lost this lost”...
I like how the seller posted how he/she/a gallery bids up auction prices / sets prices only to sell his/hers/ the gallery’s one for more. Classic way how people/galleries try and manipulated auction prices and art values. “You have lost this lost”... |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by stencilope on Dec 18, 2020 9:34:04 GMT 1, This has got to be a put-on.
What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
This has got to be a put-on.
What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by PS on Dec 18, 2020 9:36:24 GMT 1, I very much hope that you have one, you may be pleasantly surprised.
This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
I very much hope that you have one, you may be pleasantly surprised. This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by PS on Dec 18, 2020 9:38:24 GMT 1, This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by stencilope on Dec 18, 2020 9:48:13 GMT 1, Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable.
I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now.
Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable.
I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by ajr on Dec 18, 2020 10:02:54 GMT 1, This is what happens when hedge funds etc get involved. Been doing it in small caps and other asset classes for ages, now playing the art market. Look at bitcoin as another example. These guys have billions to splash around
This is what happens when hedge funds etc get involved. Been doing it in small caps and other asset classes for ages, now playing the art market. Look at bitcoin as another example. These guys have billions to splash around
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Pawel on Dec 18, 2020 10:03:46 GMT 1, This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
Don't tell them how much the signed went for the other day.
This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values. Don't tell them how much the signed went for the other day. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by apprint on Dec 18, 2020 10:32:05 GMT 1, Signed sold for close to 600k
More than Girl With Red Balloon
Signed sold for close to 600k
More than Girl With Red Balloon
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by longshanks on Dec 18, 2020 11:04:12 GMT 1, I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions...
I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions...
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by JFCC on Dec 18, 2020 11:06:14 GMT 1, An AP sold for £541k, signed seem to be around £335-375K apparently. Unsigned GWB sold at Bonhams at £321k this week.
An AP sold for £541k, signed seem to be around £335-375K apparently. Unsigned GWB sold at Bonhams at £321k this week.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Pawel on Dec 18, 2020 11:22:37 GMT 1, I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions...
Scary part is that you might be right 
I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions... SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by longshanks on Dec 18, 2020 11:47:08 GMT 1, I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions... SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right
what's even more crazy is that sotheby's one was fooked; dry-mounted, scratches.... madness
I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions... SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right what's even more crazy is that sotheby's one was fooked; dry-mounted, scratches.... madness |
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