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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by corblimeylimey on Jan 2, 2007 11:08:25 GMT 1, yeah, he's never liked any of Kubrik's work ;+P
LOL
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by corblimeylimey on Jan 2, 2007 15:14:45 GMT 1, The golden colour of the frame goes well with the yellows in the print, I can't quite figure out if the frame is projecting outward or inward.
The golden colour of the frame goes well with the yellows in the print, I can't quite figure out if the frame is projecting outward or inward.
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by atkuefler on Jan 2, 2007 15:15:53 GMT 1, Outward and along the edges of the frame it is really distressed looking! These pictures dont do it justice at all! I love it!
Outward and along the edges of the frame it is really distressed looking! These pictures dont do it justice at all! I love it!
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by tranceport185 on Jan 2, 2007 15:28:20 GMT 1, I have to take my Applause to get framed I am just curious how much did u spend on this frame. It looks like its unmatted did you do this because the edges arent really even on the print? I must say this print is a tough one to frame and give justice nice work.
I have to take my Applause to get framed I am just curious how much did u spend on this frame. It looks like its unmatted did you do this because the edges arent really even on the print? I must say this print is a tough one to frame and give justice nice work.
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by atkuefler on Jan 2, 2007 15:36:59 GMT 1, I paid $483 US for this. These pictures dont do this frame job justice! I found a couple of issues when framing this piece. 1. How the edges are colored give the impression that the print is not straight so when putting a mat on this it didn't look good. 2. When adding a mat it moves this into an "oversized" print and I would have paid almost $900 US. 3. I also thought on floating the print, but again that would have pushed the price way up! I guess the main issue for me was all to do with the price of framing it! I love this frame because the color goes really well with the print color...
Here are more pics:
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by Curley on Jan 3, 2007 13:37:43 GMT 1, That looks great. Love that frame
Have you gone without a mount at all ?
I would be worried if the print is touching the glass.
That looks great. Love that frame
Have you gone without a mount at all ?
I would be worried if the print is touching the glass.
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by foundation on Jan 3, 2007 13:52:51 GMT 1, That looks great. Love that frame Have you gone without a mount at all ? I would be worried if the print is touching the glass.
What happens if the print is touching the glass? As in does anyone actually KNOW what happens when a print is in contact with UV protective, conservation grade glass, in a professionally framed setup? ( I have heard urban myths about prints sticking to normal glass, but never seen any pics etc..), spoke to my framer about this a few weeks ago, he is adamant that if a print is framed properly there is no need for a mount and the print being in contact with protective glass presents no danger to the print whatsoever. I ask as I am interested to hear from people who know what the score is, I have a very nice print framed with UV/anti reflective glass but unmounted, and am curious.
That looks great. Love that frame Have you gone without a mount at all ? I would be worried if the print is touching the glass. What happens if the print is touching the glass? As in does anyone actually KNOW what happens when a print is in contact with UV protective, conservation grade glass, in a professionally framed setup? ( I have heard urban myths about prints sticking to normal glass, but never seen any pics etc..), spoke to my framer about this a few weeks ago, he is adamant that if a print is framed properly there is no need for a mount and the print being in contact with protective glass presents no danger to the print whatsoever. I ask as I am interested to hear from people who know what the score is, I have a very nice print framed with UV/anti reflective glass but unmounted, and am curious. |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by atkuefler on Jan 3, 2007 14:32:01 GMT 1, There is a spacer between the glass and the print. Probably like 1/4 inch gap.
There is a spacer between the glass and the print. Probably like 1/4 inch gap.
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by andrewd on Jan 3, 2007 14:49:06 GMT 1, That looks great. Love that frame Have you gone without a mount at all ? I would be worried if the print is touching the glass. What happens if the print is touching the glass? As in does anyone actually KNOW what happens when a print is in contact with UV protective, conservation grade glass, in a professionally framed setup? ( I have heard urban myths about prints sticking to normal glass, but never seen any pics etc..), spoke to my framer about this a few weeks ago, he is adamant that if a print is framed properly there is no need for a mount and the print being in contact with protective glass presents no danger to the print whatsoever. I ask as I am interested to hear from people who know what the score is, I have a very nice print framed with UV/anti reflective glass but unmounted, and am curious.
This is part of a '60s pop art print which has spent it's life in a clip frame. Water i.e. condensation has got inside and the ink and paper separates when it dries.
You can even try this at home, i) get a copy of a magazine ii) apply water, iii) place a sheet of picture glass on the magazine allow to dry and marvel at the damage!!
That looks great. Love that frame Have you gone without a mount at all ? I would be worried if the print is touching the glass. What happens if the print is touching the glass? As in does anyone actually KNOW what happens when a print is in contact with UV protective, conservation grade glass, in a professionally framed setup? ( I have heard urban myths about prints sticking to normal glass, but never seen any pics etc..), spoke to my framer about this a few weeks ago, he is adamant that if a print is framed properly there is no need for a mount and the print being in contact with protective glass presents no danger to the print whatsoever. I ask as I am interested to hear from people who know what the score is, I have a very nice print framed with UV/anti reflective glass but unmounted, and am curious. This is part of a '60s pop art print which has spent it's life in a clip frame. Water i.e. condensation has got inside and the ink and paper separates when it dries. You can even try this at home, i) get a copy of a magazine ii) apply water, iii) place a sheet of picture glass on the magazine allow to dry and marvel at the damage!! |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by foundation on Jan 3, 2007 14:55:05 GMT 1, Thats why I stressed that the print should be propperly framed, andrew, any print left in an environment that can get that wet will be damaged, I am asking about ink to conservation glass contact in a regular carefull houshold situation. I have seen that type of moisture damage before, with mounted prints rippling quite badly in similar conditions.
Thats why I stressed that the print should be propperly framed, andrew, any print left in an environment that can get that wet will be damaged, I am asking about ink to conservation glass contact in a regular carefull houshold situation. I have seen that type of moisture damage before, with mounted prints rippling quite badly in similar conditions.
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by thetongue on Jan 3, 2007 15:43:17 GMT 1, Point well raised, I'm a bit of a novice in this area and have a couple of prints in (cheap) Habitat jobs.
From a 'protection' view will these do (not too bothered about look at the moment, can do them properly later, just wanted to get them seen)?
Also assume not a good idea for Flags to be touching the glass?
Ta,
Point well raised, I'm a bit of a novice in this area and have a couple of prints in (cheap) Habitat jobs. From a 'protection' view will these do (not too bothered about look at the moment, can do them properly later, just wanted to get them seen)? Also assume not a good idea for Flags to be touching the glass? Ta, |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by bristolmassive on Jan 3, 2007 16:09:01 GMT 1, If you're willing and prepared to hang your expensive artwork in a 'cheap' type frame, i.e. non conservation glass, no mount or fillet spacer between glass and print, masking tape usage etc then unfortunately you'll always run the risk of something going horribly wrong.
Things do happen, just look at the number of damaged prints that come up for sale on the bay.
Cheapy Nielsen / habitat / Athena frames are probably around £25 where as a proper framed up job (700x500) shouldn't really cost anymore than £75 - I for one am far happier paying the extra!
If you're willing and prepared to hang your expensive artwork in a 'cheap' type frame, i.e. non conservation glass, no mount or fillet spacer between glass and print, masking tape usage etc then unfortunately you'll always run the risk of something going horribly wrong.
Things do happen, just look at the number of damaged prints that come up for sale on the bay.
Cheapy Nielsen / habitat / Athena frames are probably around £25 where as a proper framed up job (700x500) shouldn't really cost anymore than £75 - I for one am far happier paying the extra!
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by andrewd on Jan 3, 2007 16:19:33 GMT 1, Thats why I stressed that the print should be propperly framed, andrew, any print left in an environment that can get that wet will be damaged, I am asking about ink to conservation glass contact in a regular carefull houshold situation. I have seen that type of moisture damage before, with mounted prints rippling quite badly in similar conditions.
I would have thought that water would lift ink even if it was in conservation glass although I must say I don't know! I'd try ringing a couple of local framers for their views.
I've just made a few visits to Chelsea and Westminster hospital and they have a large collection of modern art, mainly prints, none of which have mounts and are right up to the glass ( Caufield, Paolozzi, Hoyland, Calder, Blow etc ) None appeared damaged.
Thats why I stressed that the print should be propperly framed, andrew, any print left in an environment that can get that wet will be damaged, I am asking about ink to conservation glass contact in a regular carefull houshold situation. I have seen that type of moisture damage before, with mounted prints rippling quite badly in similar conditions. I would have thought that water would lift ink even if it was in conservation glass although I must say I don't know! I'd try ringing a couple of local framers for their views. I've just made a few visits to Chelsea and Westminster hospital and they have a large collection of modern art, mainly prints, none of which have mounts and are right up to the glass ( Caufield, Paolozzi, Hoyland, Calder, Blow etc ) None appeared damaged. |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by foundation on Jan 3, 2007 16:26:40 GMT 1, If you're willing and prepared to hang your expensive artwork in a 'cheap' type frame, i.e. non conservation glass, no mount or fillet spacer between glass and print, masking tape usage etc then unfortunately you'll always run the risk of something going horribly wrong. Things do happen, just look at the number of damaged prints that come up for sale on the bay. Cheapy Nielsen / habitat / Athena frames are probably around £25 where as a proper framed up job (700x500) shouldn't really cost anymore than £75 - I for one am far happier paying the extra!
Indeed, never really seen the point in buying a grands worth of print and chucking it into a cheap and nasty frame, sort of like keeping caviare in a shoe box. On the other side though top marks tongue for buying to hang em, as long as they are out of direct sunlight, away from heaters and damp areas, the cheap frames shouldn't damage your prints, just not protect them as well as they could do and its a damn site better than sticking them to a wall with blutak. 
If you're willing and prepared to hang your expensive artwork in a 'cheap' type frame, i.e. non conservation glass, no mount or fillet spacer between glass and print, masking tape usage etc then unfortunately you'll always run the risk of something going horribly wrong. Things do happen, just look at the number of damaged prints that come up for sale on the bay. Cheapy Nielsen / habitat / Athena frames are probably around £25 where as a proper framed up job (700x500) shouldn't really cost anymore than £75 - I for one am far happier paying the extra! Indeed, never really seen the point in buying a grands worth of print and chucking it into a cheap and nasty frame, sort of like keeping caviare in a shoe box. On the other side though top marks tongue for buying to hang em, as long as they are out of direct sunlight, away from heaters and damp areas, the cheap frames shouldn't damage your prints, just not protect them as well as they could do and its a damn site better than sticking them to a wall with blutak. |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by jellya on Jan 3, 2007 17:06:35 GMT 1,
What will heaters do? (Sharp intake of breath as I look at the position of 2 prints above a radiator)
What will heaters do? (Sharp intake of breath as I look at the position of 2 prints above a radiator)
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by corblimeylimey on Jan 3, 2007 17:12:36 GMT 1, I too have two prints above radiators and will shortly be hanging a third above one as well.
No harm done yet.
I too have two prints above radiators and will shortly be hanging a third above one as well.
No harm done yet.
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by thetongue on Jan 3, 2007 17:12:39 GMT 1, Cheers ;D I do intend to get most done properly but haven't got the wall space at the moment and can't really justify until have my own place. Would rather have them framed than stuck in tubes!
Think may get the love rat done nicely as small, will trawl through the posts for some inspiration!
Cheers ;D I do intend to get most done properly but haven't got the wall space at the moment and can't really justify until have my own place. Would rather have them framed than stuck in tubes!
Think may get the love rat done nicely as small, will trawl through the posts for some inspiration!
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by foundation on Jan 3, 2007 17:13:40 GMT 1, What will heaters do? (Sharp intake of breath as I look at the position of 2 prints above a radiator)
Dont think paper likes getting roasted continuously, dries the paper and breaks down ink if heater on too much. Never knew about it until somone on the ebay forum posted a pic of a rude copper hung above a radiator, several of the people who knew what they were talking about expressed their concerns and pointed out the possible damage, think its more of a look after your prints rather than burn in print hell type of advice though.
What will heaters do? (Sharp intake of breath as I look at the position of 2 prints above a radiator) Dont think paper likes getting roasted continuously, dries the paper and breaks down ink if heater on too much. Never knew about it until somone on the ebay forum posted a pic of a rude copper hung above a radiator, several of the people who knew what they were talking about expressed their concerns and pointed out the possible damage, think its more of a look after your prints rather than burn in print hell type of advice though. |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by bristolmassive on Jan 3, 2007 17:14:41 GMT 1, not advisable to hang prints above any heat source!!!
Personally I'd move them asap.
It's the basics of convection.... any moisture dried and released by your radiators could rise up the wall and settle as condensation on the cold surface of your frame / glass!
Especially bad if you ever hang wet clothes over it  .
not advisable to hang prints above any heat source!!! Personally I'd move them asap. It's the basics of convection.... any moisture dried and released by your radiators could rise up the wall and settle as condensation on the cold surface of your frame / glass! Especially bad if you ever hang wet clothes over it . |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by bristolmassive on Jan 3, 2007 17:19:58 GMT 1, Cheers ;D I do intend to get most done properly but haven't got the wall space at the moment and can't really justify until have my own place. Would rather have them framed than stuck in tubes! Think may get the love rat done nicely as small, will trawl through the posts for some inspiration!
Again rant ;D..... prints that aren't hanging on the wall should ideally be stored in acid free sleeves in a portfolio.
I flattened all of mine that weren't hung on the kitchen table for a few days then placed them into sleeves.
Cheers ;D I do intend to get most done properly but haven't got the wall space at the moment and can't really justify until have my own place. Would rather have them framed than stuck in tubes! Think may get the love rat done nicely as small, will trawl through the posts for some inspiration! Again rant ;D..... prints that aren't hanging on the wall should ideally be stored in acid free sleeves in a portfolio. I flattened all of mine that weren't hung on the kitchen table for a few days then placed them into sleeves. |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by chickentw8 on Jan 3, 2007 17:24:31 GMT 1, have a few prints in habitat frames, but have purchased acid free mounts and back boards and then sealed with tape at the back....no problems
have a few prints in habitat frames, but have purchased acid free mounts and back boards and then sealed with tape at the back....no problems
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by corblimeylimey on Jan 3, 2007 17:28:39 GMT 1, As I said before, no problems with my prints above radiators, but of course I don't put damp clothes on the ones below the the frames, also they are brand new radiators (the sort with a case around so it's more hot air than direct radiation of heat)
As I said before, no problems with my prints above radiators, but of course I don't put damp clothes on the ones below the the frames, also they are brand new radiators (the sort with a case around so it's more hot air than direct radiation of heat)
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by lesroy on Jan 4, 2007 9:26:46 GMT 1, hehe
It seems the best place for prints is in acid free sleeves in an art folder under your bed in a dark room that is constantly 23.c
Strangely, that is the ideal conditions for growng Magic Mushrooms aswell I can now go under my bed weekly, have a look at my prints and harvest my mushrooms at the same time 
hehe It seems the best place for prints is in acid free sleeves in an art folder under your bed in a dark room that is constantly 23.c Strangely, that is the ideal conditions for growng Magic Mushrooms aswell I can now go under my bed weekly, have a look at my prints and harvest my mushrooms at the same time |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by foundation on Jan 4, 2007 10:10:28 GMT 1, hehe It seems the best place for prints is in acid free sleeves in an art folder under your bed in a dark room that is constantly 23.c Strangely, that is the ideal conditions for growng Magic Mushrooms aswell I can now go under my bed weekly, have a look at my prints and harvest my mushrooms at the same time
hehe It seems the best place for prints is in acid free sleeves in an art folder under your bed in a dark room that is constantly 23.c Strangely, that is the ideal conditions for growng Magic Mushrooms aswell I can now go under my bed weekly, have a look at my prints and harvest my mushrooms at the same time Les you are a chuffin genius... |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by ABC on Jan 4, 2007 21:40:52 GMT 1, There is nothing wrong with cheap frames as long as the mount board is acid free or the print is not against the glass (Clip frames are a no no though).
There is nothing wrong with cheap frames as long as the mount board is acid free or the print is not against the glass (Clip frames are a no no though).
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by bristolmassive on Jan 4, 2007 21:49:25 GMT 1, There is nothing wrong with cheap frames as long as the mount board is acid free or the print is not against the glass (Clip frames are a no no though).
sorry but I don't agree. Most 'cheap' frames are not designed to display 'expensive' artwork safely. It's a risk I'm not prepared to take.
PS - I'm not in the framing business ;D
There is nothing wrong with cheap frames as long as the mount board is acid free or the print is not against the glass (Clip frames are a no no though). sorry but I don't agree. Most 'cheap' frames are not designed to display 'expensive' artwork safely. It's a risk I'm not prepared to take. PS - I'm not in the framing business ;D |
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by ABC on Jan 4, 2007 21:55:18 GMT 1, Thats your opinion, I never use cheap frames myself but its nothing to do with the "frame" its to do with How its mounted - Thats fact
Thats your opinion, I never use cheap frames myself but its nothing to do with the "frame" its to do with How its mounted - Thats fact
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by bristolmassive on Jan 9, 2007 18:52:58 GMT 1, taken from the framers john jones......
" Never keep works of art in areas where there is the potential for high humidity or water leakage. Obviously, you should steer well clear of hanging them in such places as the bathroom and the basement, but beware also of uninsulated exterior walls, the areas above radiators, and the immediate vicinity of humidifiers, vaporisers or air vents."
Worth thinking about at least.
taken from the framers john jones......
" Never keep works of art in areas where there is the potential for high humidity or water leakage. Obviously, you should steer well clear of hanging them in such places as the bathroom and the basement, but beware also of uninsulated exterior walls, the areas above radiators, and the immediate vicinity of humidifiers, vaporisers or air vents."
Worth thinking about at least.
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by atkuefler on Jan 9, 2007 19:17:10 GMT 1, Shoot! Those damn vaporisers!
Shoot! Those damn vaporisers! |
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