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Artists During Recession, by Daniel Silk on Apr 15, 2009 16:44:03 GMT 1, Times are hard, and many of us will be buying less art over the next few months The knock on effect of this could be Galleries may close, and Artists might need to think of other ways to survive.
With prints sometimes being ยฃ300+ what other things could Artists sell that would be more affordable for us?
Could they make stenciled T-Shirts? Smaller prints priced less than ยฃ50?
What other things do you think they could do?
Times are hard, and many of us will be buying less art over the next few months The knock on effect of this could be Galleries may close, and Artists might need to think of other ways to survive. With prints sometimes being ยฃ300+ what other things could Artists sell that would be more affordable for us? Could they make stenciled T-Shirts? Smaller prints priced less than ยฃ50? What other things do you think they could do?
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Artists During Recession, by hero on Apr 15, 2009 16:49:21 GMT 1, small cheap prints are the way forward
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small cheap prints are the way forward H
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Artists During Recession, by Daniel Silk on Apr 15, 2009 16:59:39 GMT 1, I think T-shirts would be a good idea ;D
Imagine if they did hand stenciled T-shirts for between ยฃ15-30 I think they would sell really well, and would bring in much needed sales to some artists.
I think T-shirts would be a good idea ;D
Imagine if they did hand stenciled T-shirts for between ยฃ15-30 I think they would sell really well, and would bring in much needed sales to some artists.
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Artists During Recession, by boatboy on Apr 15, 2009 17:01:39 GMT 1, Maybe get a proper job, 9-5 etc. But seriously yeah t-shirts would be cool and cups.
Maybe get a proper job, 9-5 etc. But seriously yeah t-shirts would be cool and cups.
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Artists During Recession, by Run Pig Run on Apr 15, 2009 17:07:27 GMT 1, a real artist doesn't give a fuck about money.
a real artist doesn't give a fuck about money.
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Artists During Recession, by Daniel Silk on Apr 15, 2009 17:09:36 GMT 1, a real artist doesn't give a f**k about money.
They gotta make a living at it if they dont have another job.
a real artist doesn't give a f**k about money. They gotta make a living at it if they dont have another job.
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Artists During Recession, by hlarmy on Apr 15, 2009 17:11:29 GMT 1, Get a part time job to pay the bills and then concentrate on upping the quality of their work so that what they do produce will sell (and sell at a good price). T-shirts are a rubbish idea Silky
Get a part time job to pay the bills and then concentrate on upping the quality of their work so that what they do produce will sell (and sell at a good price). T-shirts are a rubbish idea Silky
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Artists During Recession, by Run Pig Run on Apr 15, 2009 17:16:41 GMT 1, a real artist doesn't give a f**k about money. They gotta make a living at it if they dont have another job.
no. If you cut a real artist they will bleed paint not money. If you are making art for money then in my tiny mind then you cease to be an artist.
But, in the good old days (2006) a screenprint was no more than ยฃ75...all these so-called artists have got greedy. I hope the arse drops out of the whole thing a few wannabes return to their day jobs
a real artist doesn't give a f**k about money. They gotta make a living at it if they dont have another job. no. If you cut a real artist they will bleed paint not money. If you are making art for money then in my tiny mind then you cease to be an artist. But, in the good old days (2006) a screenprint was no more than ยฃ75...all these so-called artists have got greedy. I hope the arse drops out of the whole thing a few wannabes return to their day jobs
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Artists During Recession, by jones27 on Apr 15, 2009 17:30:42 GMT 1, In addition to their own releases etc, how about an artist starting a club. The club would consist of say 100 members who pay ยฃ25 per month and in return get a new exclusive print every quarter, show invites and maybe even a badge ! The artist would have the luxury of a regular monthly income off 100 or so members.
In addition to their own releases etc, how about an artist starting a club. The club would consist of say 100 members who pay ยฃ25 per month and in return get a new exclusive print every quarter, show invites and maybe even a badge ! The artist would have the luxury of a regular monthly income off 100 or so members.
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Artists During Recession, by They call me Stephen on Apr 15, 2009 17:31:41 GMT 1, artist cake sale
artist cake sale
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Artists During Recession, by howler on Apr 15, 2009 17:33:20 GMT 1, Maybe get a proper job, 9-5 etc. But seriously yeah t-shirts would be cool and cups.
Why's that not serious ?
Anyone expecting to make a living wage from being an artist and nothing else is living in a fantasy world, recession or not. In fact surely the reality of the situation is that anyone who's serious about their art needs to work in order to generate enough income to buy materials to create with. You can stand the shitiest job if it's just a means to an end and gives you the opportunity to pursue the dream.
So what should they sell ? I don't know, burgers, coffees, shoes ?
Maybe get a proper job, 9-5 etc. But seriously yeah t-shirts would be cool and cups. Why's that not serious ? Anyone expecting to make a living wage from being an artist and nothing else is living in a fantasy world, recession or not. In fact surely the reality of the situation is that anyone who's serious about their art needs to work in order to generate enough income to buy materials to create with. You can stand the shi tiest job if it's just a means to an end and gives you the opportunity to pursue the dream. So what should they sell ? I don't know, burgers, coffees, shoes ?
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Artists During Recession, by European Bob on Apr 15, 2009 17:33:50 GMT 1, stickers are everything at the mo...got another new 2 sets comming this week cant get enough of em!!!
stickers are everything at the mo...got another new 2 sets comming this week cant get enough of em!!!
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Artists During Recession, by Daniel Silk on Apr 15, 2009 17:36:38 GMT 1, stickers are everything at the mo...got another new 2 sets comming this week cant get enough of em!!!
Yeah, thats true!
Not many artists have sticker up for sale at the moment I guess they would make very little out of it, but its great PR
stickers are everything at the mo...got another new 2 sets comming this week cant get enough of em!!! Yeah, thats true! Not many artists have sticker up for sale at the moment I guess they would make very little out of it, but its great PR
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Artists During Recession, by Heavyconsumer on Apr 15, 2009 19:00:16 GMT 1, They gotta make a living at it if they dont have another job. BULLs**t!!! What EARNS them that right is the quality of their work, not their choice to become an artist! They are not owed a living.no. If you cut a real artist they will bleed paint not money. If you are making art for money then in my tiny mind then you cease to be an artist. But, in the good old days (2006) a screenprint was no more than ยฃ75...all these so-called artists have got greedy. I hope the arse drops out of the whole thing a few wannabes return to their day jobs Howler wrote this too: Anyone expecting to make a living wage from being an artist and nothing else is living in a fantasy world, recession or not. In fact surely the reality of the situation is that anyone who's serious about their art needs to work in order to generate enough income to buy materials to create with. You can stand the s**tiest job if it's just a means to an end and gives you the opportunity to pursue the dream. So what should they sell ? I don't know, burgers, coffees, shoes ?
I agree 100% guys!!! OK, maybe I don't want to cut anyone! But the fact is, as collectors/consumers of this product, we're having the piss taken out of us by too many of the people relying on us to earn a crust! Some artists get a little recognition from members of online forums and all of a sudden think they can charge what they like and we will pay it! Gallerists see the next popular image or artist and think it's their next meal ticket, so they sign up the artist for an editioned run at inflated prices. WRONG! We are the market makers, not you! Historically, the vast majority of artists have failed to earn a decent living from it, yet followed their hearts, doing what they loved, toiling away to develop their skills. Selling work is a priviledge not a god given right and it should depend on its' quality, not how well it's hyped up.
I want to raise a subject for which one or two here may dislike me (even more) in a moment, but it's been annoying me and I'm gonna put it out there.... Artists should charge for their work, based on how long a piece has taken them and how much effort went into it. Hence traditionally the larger and more intricate a piece the more one's expected to pay. However, some of the artists in these boards reproducing the same images time and time again and using the same stencils to do it, so I question their creativity (and ability - can they actually even paint?) and moreso their work ethic. How any up and comer especially, thinks they deserve to be earning hundreds of ยฃยฃยฃ/$$$ for something that's taken them a few minutes or even an hour or two to produce, is beyond me. Some of them need to get their feet back on the ground imo and remember who it is that's buying their work - How many of us earn ยฃ100 an hour?!?!. And this isn't just the newer artists either. Some of the "work" by the bigger names in this scene is an absolute joke when you stop to take this into account, along with the prices galleries ask for their canvases and prints imo. Someone's having a laugh at our expense and Banksy's Morons was emphatic on this point, yet things have got worse since then imo.
People (us) continue to accept over-pricing and pay it, for mediocre art (at best) much of the time! And that's what they're banking on. It's up to us to lay down the gauntlet. Stop buying any old crap because of the name in the bottom right hand corner and start demanding that if we're to spend out money on it, especially $500/ยฃ500 a pop , it better damned well demonstrate a little graft and ability on the artist's part! We're allowing them to treat us like the brand-junkee TV addicts many of our generation are, and they're getting rich from it! It's not their fault for being greedy, it's ours for giving them our cash. If I want a brand, I'll go shopping on Bond Street thanks, I'm interested in the ability of an artist being demonstrated in their work, not how successfully they can milk money from a cash-cow market! Did these artists go to art school or business school?! Because gadammit, I'm thinking of cutting some stencils and getting a few different screen-names lined up! Looks like easy money from a captive audience!!!
Rant over.
They gotta make a living at it if they dont have another job. BULLs**t!!! What EARNS them that right is the quality of their work, not their choice to become an artist! They are not owed a living.no. If you cut a real artist they will bleed paint not money. If you are making art for money then in my tiny mind then you cease to be an artist. But, in the good old days (2006) a screenprint was no more than ยฃ75...all these so-called artists have got greedy. I hope the arse drops out of the whole thing a few wannabes return to their day jobs Howler wrote this too: Anyone expecting to make a living wage from being an artist and nothing else is living in a fantasy world, recession or not. In fact surely the reality of the situation is that anyone who's serious about their art needs to work in order to generate enough income to buy materials to create with. You can stand the s**tiest job if it's just a means to an end and gives you the opportunity to pursue the dream. So what should they sell ? I don't know, burgers, coffees, shoes ? I agree 100% guys!!! OK, maybe I don't want to cut anyone! But the fact is, as collectors/consumers of this product, we're having the piss taken out of us by too many of the people relying on us to earn a crust! Some artists get a little recognition from members of online forums and all of a sudden think they can charge what they like and we will pay it! Gallerists see the next popular image or artist and think it's their next meal ticket, so they sign up the artist for an editioned run at inflated prices. WRONG! We are the market makers, not you! Historically, the vast majority of artists have failed to earn a decent living from it, yet followed their hearts, doing what they loved, toiling away to develop their skills. Selling work is a priviledge not a god given right and it should depend on its' quality, not how well it's hyped up. I want to raise a subject for which one or two here may dislike me (even more) in a moment, but it's been annoying me and I'm gonna put it out there.... Artists should charge for their work, based on how long a piece has taken them and how much effort went into it. Hence traditionally the larger and more intricate a piece the more one's expected to pay. However, some of the artists in these boards reproducing the same images time and time again and using the same stencils to do it, so I question their creativity (and ability - can they actually even paint?) and moreso their work ethic. How any up and comer especially, thinks they deserve to be earning hundreds of ยฃยฃยฃ/$$$ for something that's taken them a few minutes or even an hour or two to produce, is beyond me. Some of them need to get their feet back on the ground imo and remember who it is that's buying their work - How many of us earn ยฃ100 an hour?!?!. And this isn't just the newer artists either. Some of the "work" by the bigger names in this scene is an absolute joke when you stop to take this into account, along with the prices galleries ask for their canvases and prints imo. Someone's having a laugh at our expense and Banksy's Morons was emphatic on this point, yet things have got worse since then imo. People (us) continue to accept over-pricing and pay it, for mediocre art (at best) much of the time! And that's what they're banking on. It's up to us to lay down the gauntlet. Stop buying any old crap because of the name in the bottom right hand corner and start demanding that if we're to spend out money on it, especially $500/ยฃ500 a pop , it better damned well demonstrate a little graft and ability on the artist's part! We're allowing them to treat us like the brand-junkee TV addicts many of our generation are, and they're getting rich from it! It's not their fault for being greedy, it's ours for giving them our cash. If I want a brand, I'll go shopping on Bond Street thanks, I'm interested in the ability of an artist being demonstrated in their work, not how successfully they can milk money from a cash-cow market! Did these artists go to art school or business school?! Because gadammit, I'm thinking of cutting some stencils and getting a few different screen-names lined up! Looks like easy money from a captive audience!!! Rant over.
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Artists During Recession, by Winter on Apr 15, 2009 19:06:57 GMT 1, Skateboards. Everyone needs skateboards.
Skateboards. Everyone needs skateboards.
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Artists During Recession, by They call me Stephen on Apr 15, 2009 19:10:49 GMT 1, HC...nail on the head, great post
HC...nail on the head, great post
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Artists During Recession, by Photoxtc on Apr 15, 2009 19:50:21 GMT 1, Love the Rant HC and a very good one at that, well said...
Love the Rant HC and a very good one at that, well said...
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Artists During Recession, by Gurn on Apr 15, 2009 20:13:03 GMT 1, BULLs**t!!! What EARNS them that right is the quality of their work, not their choice to become an artist! They are not owed a living.no. If you cut a real artist they will bleed paint not money. If you are making art for money then in my tiny mind then you cease to be an artist. But, in the good old days (2006) a screenprint was no more than ยฃ75...all these so-called artists have got greedy. I hope the arse drops out of the whole thing a few wannabes return to their day jobs Howler wrote this too: Anyone expecting to make a living wage from being an artist and nothing else is living in a fantasy world, recession or not. In fact surely the reality of the situation is that anyone who's serious about their art needs to work in order to generate enough income to buy materials to create with. You can stand the s**tiest job if it's just a means to an end and gives you the opportunity to pursue the dream. So what should they sell ? I don't know, burgers, coffees, shoes ? I agree 100% guys!!! OK, maybe I don't want to cut anyone! But the fact is, as collectors/consumers of this product, we're having the piss taken out of us by too many of the people relying on us to earn a crust! Some artists get a little recognition from members of online forums and all of a sudden think they can charge what they like and we will pay it! Gallerists see the next popular image or artist and think it's their next meal ticket, so they sign up the artist for an editioned run at inflated prices. WRONG! We are the market makers, not you! Historically, the vast majority of artists have failed to earn a decent living from it, yet followed their hearts, doing what they loved, toiling away to develop their skills. Selling work is a priviledge not a god given right and it should depend on its' quality, not how well it's hyped up. I want to raise a subject for which one or two here may dislike me (even more) in a moment, but it's been annoying me and I'm gonna put it out there.... Artists should charge for their work, based on how long a piece has taken them and how much effort went into it. Hence traditionally the larger and more intricate a piece the more one's expected to pay. However, some of the artists in these boards reproducing the same images time and time again and using the same stencils to do it, so I question their creativity (and ability - can they actually even paint?) and moreso their work ethic. How any up and comer especially, thinks they deserve to be earning hundreds of ยฃยฃยฃ/$$$ for something that's taken them a few minutes or even an hour or two to produce, is beyond me. Some of them need to get their feet back on the ground imo and remember who it is that's buying their work - How many of us earn ยฃ100 an hour?!?!. And this isn't just the newer artists either. Some of the "work" by the bigger names in this scene is an absolute joke when you stop to take this into account, along with the prices galleries ask for their canvases and prints imo. Someone's having a laugh at our expense and Banksy's Morons was emphatic on this point, yet things have got worse since then imo. People (us) continue to accept over-pricing and pay it, for mediocre art (at best) much of the time! And that's what they're banking on. It's up to us to lay down the gauntlet. Stop buying any old crap because of the name in the bottom right hand corner and start demanding that if we're to spend out money on it, especially $500/ยฃ500 a pop , it better damned well demonstrate a little graft and ability on the artist's part! We're allowing them to treat us like the brand-junkee TV addicts many of our generation are, and they're getting rich from it! It's not their fault for being greedy, it's ours for giving them our cash. If I want a brand, I'll go shopping on Bond Street thanks, I'm interested in the ability of an artist being demonstrated in their work, not how successfully they can milk money from a cash-cow market! Did these artists go to art school or business school?! Because gadammit, I'm thinking of cutting some stencils and getting a few different screen-names lined up! Looks like easy money from a captive audience!!! Rant over.
Best post on here for a long time.
BULLs**t!!! What EARNS them that right is the quality of their work, not their choice to become an artist! They are not owed a living.no. If you cut a real artist they will bleed paint not money. If you are making art for money then in my tiny mind then you cease to be an artist. But, in the good old days (2006) a screenprint was no more than ยฃ75...all these so-called artists have got greedy. I hope the arse drops out of the whole thing a few wannabes return to their day jobs Howler wrote this too: Anyone expecting to make a living wage from being an artist and nothing else is living in a fantasy world, recession or not. In fact surely the reality of the situation is that anyone who's serious about their art needs to work in order to generate enough income to buy materials to create with. You can stand the s**tiest job if it's just a means to an end and gives you the opportunity to pursue the dream. So what should they sell ? I don't know, burgers, coffees, shoes ? I agree 100% guys!!! OK, maybe I don't want to cut anyone! But the fact is, as collectors/consumers of this product, we're having the piss taken out of us by too many of the people relying on us to earn a crust! Some artists get a little recognition from members of online forums and all of a sudden think they can charge what they like and we will pay it! Gallerists see the next popular image or artist and think it's their next meal ticket, so they sign up the artist for an editioned run at inflated prices. WRONG! We are the market makers, not you! Historically, the vast majority of artists have failed to earn a decent living from it, yet followed their hearts, doing what they loved, toiling away to develop their skills. Selling work is a priviledge not a god given right and it should depend on its' quality, not how well it's hyped up. I want to raise a subject for which one or two here may dislike me (even more) in a moment, but it's been annoying me and I'm gonna put it out there.... Artists should charge for their work, based on how long a piece has taken them and how much effort went into it. Hence traditionally the larger and more intricate a piece the more one's expected to pay. However, some of the artists in these boards reproducing the same images time and time again and using the same stencils to do it, so I question their creativity (and ability - can they actually even paint?) and moreso their work ethic. How any up and comer especially, thinks they deserve to be earning hundreds of ยฃยฃยฃ/$$$ for something that's taken them a few minutes or even an hour or two to produce, is beyond me. Some of them need to get their feet back on the ground imo and remember who it is that's buying their work - How many of us earn ยฃ100 an hour?!?!. And this isn't just the newer artists either. Some of the "work" by the bigger names in this scene is an absolute joke when you stop to take this into account, along with the prices galleries ask for their canvases and prints imo. Someone's having a laugh at our expense and Banksy's Morons was emphatic on this point, yet things have got worse since then imo. People (us) continue to accept over-pricing and pay it, for mediocre art (at best) much of the time! And that's what they're banking on. It's up to us to lay down the gauntlet. Stop buying any old crap because of the name in the bottom right hand corner and start demanding that if we're to spend out money on it, especially $500/ยฃ500 a pop , it better damned well demonstrate a little graft and ability on the artist's part! We're allowing them to treat us like the brand-junkee TV addicts many of our generation are, and they're getting rich from it! It's not their fault for being greedy, it's ours for giving them our cash. If I want a brand, I'll go shopping on Bond Street thanks, I'm interested in the ability of an artist being demonstrated in their work, not how successfully they can milk money from a cash-cow market! Did these artists go to art school or business school?! Because gadammit, I'm thinking of cutting some stencils and getting a few different screen-names lined up! Looks like easy money from a captive audience!!! Rant over. Best post on here for a long time.
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Artists During Recession, by gbh on Apr 17, 2009 5:29:15 GMT 1, artists are a bit like actors, the good one's earn a crust and ply their trade. The struggling ones need to either make it big or continue pulling shifts as waiters, etc/work just like the rest of us sad bastards...
artists are a bit like actors, the good one's earn a crust and ply their trade. The struggling ones need to either make it big or continue pulling shifts as waiters, etc/work just like the rest of us sad bastards...
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Artists During Recession, by kay7four on Apr 17, 2009 9:56:29 GMT 1, HC..Great post.
I agree with all of your points and let me tell you I am certain you pissed off a few people or at least bruised a few egos. I most agreed with the point about the time and effort it takes to make a piece in comparison to the price. I have been blessed enough to make a meager living selling my art and yes I have raised my prices gradually over the past two years. When I cut a stencil, I really do it with the intent to hit the streets with it and if I like it, I will cut a new one to fit a canvas. I spend anywhere between 5 to 72 hours cutting the multiple layers. My biggest expense however is not time because my time is essentially free, my biggest expense is materials and paint. Any given piece that has more than 2 layers costs me anywhere between $100 - $250 that includes stencil board,printing costs,canvas,scalpels,blades, paint and any issues I have with the authorities... I also, in most cases, only produce one or two canveses using that stencil as opposed to mass producing it. So put that together with the hours cutting I feel I have to charge the prices I have been charging. Believe me I never got into this to make money, and If I never sell another piece, I will be just as happy but with a garage full of canvases. I feel a need to express myself and this is my outlet. If people enjoy the end product then so be it, if not I still got it off my chest, not to mention got a good meditation session. I do feel that with the current economy I do need to work more efficiently and save on all expenses inorder to produce at a lower cost so that I can at least break even. I know this sounds like business school as opposed to art school but I think any good artist needs to have a good businees sense if he/she expects to be taken seriously and survive. With that I want to say that I will be lowering most of my prices very shortly and in many cases sell at a loss just to make things more affordable to anyone interested(not a sales pitch)because after all this is street art and street art should always be made availabe to everyday street people. Sorry for the rant........ K
HC..Great post.
I agree with all of your points and let me tell you I am certain you pissed off a few people or at least bruised a few egos. I most agreed with the point about the time and effort it takes to make a piece in comparison to the price. I have been blessed enough to make a meager living selling my art and yes I have raised my prices gradually over the past two years. When I cut a stencil, I really do it with the intent to hit the streets with it and if I like it, I will cut a new one to fit a canvas. I spend anywhere between 5 to 72 hours cutting the multiple layers. My biggest expense however is not time because my time is essentially free, my biggest expense is materials and paint. Any given piece that has more than 2 layers costs me anywhere between $100 - $250 that includes stencil board,printing costs,canvas,scalpels,blades, paint and any issues I have with the authorities... I also, in most cases, only produce one or two canveses using that stencil as opposed to mass producing it. So put that together with the hours cutting I feel I have to charge the prices I have been charging. Believe me I never got into this to make money, and If I never sell another piece, I will be just as happy but with a garage full of canvases. I feel a need to express myself and this is my outlet. If people enjoy the end product then so be it, if not I still got it off my chest, not to mention got a good meditation session. I do feel that with the current economy I do need to work more efficiently and save on all expenses inorder to produce at a lower cost so that I can at least break even. I know this sounds like business school as opposed to art school but I think any good artist needs to have a good businees sense if he/she expects to be taken seriously and survive. With that I want to say that I will be lowering most of my prices very shortly and in many cases sell at a loss just to make things more affordable to anyone interested(not a sales pitch)because after all this is street art and street art should always be made availabe to everyday street people. Sorry for the rant........ K
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Artists During Recession, by thegreatarchitect on Apr 17, 2009 15:01:12 GMT 1, Maybe get a proper job, 9-5 etc. But seriously yeah t-shirts would be cool and cups. Why's that not serious ? Anyone expecting to make a living wage from being an artist and nothing else is living in a fantasy world, recession or not. In fact surely the reality of the situation is that anyone who's serious about their art needs to work in order to generate enough income to buy materials to create with. You can stand the shi tiest job if it's just a means to an end and gives you the opportunity to pursue the dream. So what should they sell ? I don't know, burgers, coffees, shoes ? Fully agree with you - Into each reign a little life must fall
Maybe get a proper job, 9-5 etc. But seriously yeah t-shirts would be cool and cups. Why's that not serious ? Anyone expecting to make a living wage from being an artist and nothing else is living in a fantasy world, recession or not. In fact surely the reality of the situation is that anyone who's serious about their art needs to work in order to generate enough income to buy materials to create with. You can stand the shi tiest job if it's just a means to an end and gives you the opportunity to pursue the dream. So what should they sell ? I don't know, burgers, coffees, shoes ? Fully agree with you - Into each reign a little life must fall
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Artists During Recession, by wiz on Apr 17, 2009 15:03:51 GMT 1, Thats v good, never heard that saying done that way, apt. I would suppose some may need larger umberellas than others?.
Thats v good, never heard that saying done that way, apt. I would suppose some may need larger umberellas than others?.
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Artists During Recession, by thegreatarchitect on Apr 17, 2009 15:09:19 GMT 1, thanks wiz
Ludvig II of Bavaria when he had to iron his own shirt one day
thanks wiz
Ludvig II of Bavaria when he had to iron his own shirt one day
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linkd95
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July 2008
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Artists During Recession, by linkd95 on Apr 17, 2009 22:27:44 GMT 1, My opinion, most artists do need a side job unless you do art because you obviously love it and maybe your parents or grandparents were rich people and you have about 4 million in your bank account .But like now there's a recession and a lot of artists work is decreasing in value quite fast. If they cant get a side job, like Silky said T-Shirts and smaller less priced prints could be available. They can try and put their art onto other things we ALL NEED i.e clothes, wallpaper (if necessary), trainers, bags, mugs e.t.c
My opinion, most artists do need a side job unless you do art because you obviously love it and maybe your parents or grandparents were rich people and you have about 4 million in your bank account .But like now there's a recession and a lot of artists work is decreasing in value quite fast. If they cant get a side job, like Silky said T-Shirts and smaller less priced prints could be available. They can try and put their art onto other things we ALL NEED i.e clothes, wallpaper (if necessary), trainers, bags, mugs e.t.c
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Artists During Recession, by wiz on Apr 17, 2009 22:55:13 GMT 1, HELLO LINKD, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THEN?.
HELLO LINKD, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THEN?.
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Artists During Recession, by manchestermike on Apr 17, 2009 23:24:54 GMT 1,
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Artists During Recession, by cashman on Apr 17, 2009 23:35:55 GMT 1, HELLO LINKD, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THEN?.
My guess would be easter holidays
Oh and Wiz, turn the gramophone down..theres no need to shout
HELLO LINKD, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THEN?. My guess would be easter holidays Oh and Wiz, turn the gramophone down..theres no need to shout
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Artists During Recession, by wiz on Apr 17, 2009 23:40:53 GMT 1, OK Cashman will do. Ah yes! Easter holidays, i went to a garden party down the lane and we all had an egg and spoon race around the field, i was a judge and cheated like mad to let my team win but we came in third even though i time penalised the other teams heavily for no stlyle and being drab. Good tip, dont eat Simnel cake right after chocolate cake unless you want to go to upchuck city for the night!.
OK Cashman will do. Ah yes! Easter holidays, i went to a garden party down the lane and we all had an egg and spoon race around the field, i was a judge and cheated like mad to let my team win but we came in third even though i time penalised the other teams heavily for no stlyle and being drab. Good tip, dont eat Simnel cake right after chocolate cake unless you want to go to upchuck city for the night!.
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Bram
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November 2007
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Artists During Recession, by Bram on Apr 17, 2009 23:45:03 GMT 1, OK Cashman will do. Ah yes! Easter holidays, i went to a garden party down the lane and we all had an egg and spoon race around the field, i was a judge and cheated like mad to let my team win but we came in third even though i time penalised the other teams heavily for no stlyle and being drab. Good tip, dont eat Simnel cake right after chocolate cake unless you want to go to upchuck city for the night!.
Garden parties with Simnel cake and chocolate cake? The recession is really taking hold then ;D
OK Cashman will do. Ah yes! Easter holidays, i went to a garden party down the lane and we all had an egg and spoon race around the field, i was a judge and cheated like mad to let my team win but we came in third even though i time penalised the other teams heavily for no stlyle and being drab. Good tip, dont eat Simnel cake right after chocolate cake unless you want to go to upchuck city for the night!. Garden parties with Simnel cake and chocolate cake? The recession is really taking hold then ;D
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