T*3
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by T*3 on May 12, 2009 0:44:28 GMT 1, i came across today but am unsure what its all about.
can you buy art from them or is the art from people trying to sell?
or is it just a forum and people are just sharing photos?
i just keep getting lost on ther.
cheers
T*3
i came across today but am unsure what its all about.
can you buy art from them or is the art from people trying to sell?
or is it just a forum and people are just sharing photos?
i just keep getting lost on ther.
cheers
T*3
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etched
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by etched on May 12, 2009 0:59:11 GMT 1, i came across today but am unsure what its all about. can you buy art from them or is the art from people trying to sell? or is it just a forum and people are just sharing photos? i just keep getting lost on ther. cheers T*3
thats because its stateside - hang out for a couple of days and see the sunshine
i came across today but am unsure what its all about. can you buy art from them or is the art from people trying to sell? or is it just a forum and people are just sharing photos? i just keep getting lost on ther. cheers T*3 thats because its stateside - hang out for a couple of days and see the sunshine |
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Heavyconsumer
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by Heavyconsumer on May 12, 2009 5:28:29 GMT 1, i came across today but am unsure what its all about. can you buy art from them or is the art from people trying to sell? or is it just a forum and people are just sharing photos? i just keep getting lost on ther. cheers T*3
Gonna be a very long-winded post - sorry in advance!;D
EB is a superb website imo! It has various functions: To me it's a great collector's resource as a reference tool for both art and artists I'm already aware of (for data such as market values and price trends, and trading facility, which I have not yet used properly) and a teriffic source for finding whole new worlds of art at the same time.
Fundamentally, it's a monstrous database and a forum, but whoever built that database is somewhat of a supergeek in their specialist field!!! My good buddy, who's built the databases running behind some very well known websites and ordering systems was in awe when I showed it to him! It offers limited open access (if that's the correct term) for all members to update the system by adding live sales related data (live and old ebay auction numbers or private sale info), submitting new art related information from any source and of any style or genre, including adding photos and specifics, which is then reviewed by mods and added to the system. However 100%complete the information is not, as it relies on the dilligence of individual members to input the pricing information from sales and it's not equipped to auto-access ebay to update with all ebay listings - auction numbers must be manually input in other words and the system will then track it or add the data retrospectively if the sale has ended..
The site is allegedly run on a non-profit basis - registration requires only an email address (much like here). They do have internally organised and promoted product lines including art and I believe some branded merchandise, but it is certainly not pushed on you or in your face, you have to hunt it down. They accept donations and recognise members for donating.
There seems to be a substantial team of mods and admin people there.
For artists who wish to update the database with their own art's images and details, I would guess it makes a pretty decent portfolio site. There are active discussions available for each piece of art, as well as a complete forum feature comparable in format to here. Like here, there are many artists and gallery staff/owners participating in discussions, mostly American I presume. There is some promotion of work, although that is mostly by regular members (or at least so it would seem!!!). I bought a Deuce 7 print from Artminion there just yesterday (couldn't help myself for £24 shipped anywhere!).
However, there are some VERY cool additional tools for the collector too, such as being able to list your collection (publicly or password protected), make pieces available for sale or swap and create an list. In addition it has a "matchmaker" inter-member trading feature and will provide personalised pages of from whom and for how much your ISOs are available, who is seeking any of the pieces you make available for trade, which of your ISOs are in (pre-entered) ebay auctions currently and will alert you by email to any or all of the afformentioned if you select that feature!!! It's a monster of a database and great fun as a collector resource!!!
MANY of it's members are very gig-poster oriented, but there seems to be just as much (or nearly as much) attention given to art prints too. Although there are original paintings and T-shirt designs and painted skateboards and god knows what else listed too! Most (almost all probably) of the artists discussed here do feature there in some way.
I hope that goes some way toward answering your question and I'm sure I've missed some stuff out too, as it's such a massive site, I certainly haven't seen it all yet, so feel free anyone to correct me or add anything I've omitted.
EDIT - I forgot that members vote for "Art of the week" every week and similarly "Art of the year," you just click the nominate button on the detail page for any piece. Some retailers even mention if a piece/edition they're selling has won such an EB award e.g. blkmrktgallery.com/store/?id=5
Last week's award was won by Dan McCarthy's current monthly print offering. In fact Grafter was an award winner there too for his "Splash" image a while back.
i came across today but am unsure what its all about. can you buy art from them or is the art from people trying to sell? or is it just a forum and people are just sharing photos? i just keep getting lost on ther. cheers T*3 Gonna be a very long-winded post - sorry in advance!;D EB is a superb website imo! It has various functions: To me it's a great collector's resource as a reference tool for both art and artists I'm already aware of (for data such as market values and price trends, and trading facility, which I have not yet used properly) and a teriffic source for finding whole new worlds of art at the same time. Fundamentally, it's a monstrous database and a forum, but whoever built that database is somewhat of a supergeek in their specialist field!!! My good buddy, who's built the databases running behind some very well known websites and ordering systems was in awe when I showed it to him! It offers limited open access (if that's the correct term) for all members to update the system by adding live sales related data (live and old ebay auction numbers or private sale info), submitting new art related information from any source and of any style or genre, including adding photos and specifics, which is then reviewed by mods and added to the system. However 100%complete the information is not, as it relies on the dilligence of individual members to input the pricing information from sales and it's not equipped to auto-access ebay to update with all ebay listings - auction numbers must be manually input in other words and the system will then track it or add the data retrospectively if the sale has ended.. The site is allegedly run on a non-profit basis - registration requires only an email address (much like here). They do have internally organised and promoted product lines including art and I believe some branded merchandise, but it is certainly not pushed on you or in your face, you have to hunt it down. They accept donations and recognise members for donating. There seems to be a substantial team of mods and admin people there. For artists who wish to update the database with their own art's images and details, I would guess it makes a pretty decent portfolio site. There are active discussions available for each piece of art, as well as a complete forum feature comparable in format to here. Like here, there are many artists and gallery staff/owners participating in discussions, mostly American I presume. There is some promotion of work, although that is mostly by regular members (or at least so it would seem!!!). I bought a Deuce 7 print from Artminion there just yesterday (couldn't help myself for £24 shipped anywhere!). However, there are some VERY cool additional tools for the collector too, such as being able to list your collection (publicly or password protected), make pieces available for sale or swap and create an list. In addition it has a "matchmaker" inter-member trading feature and will provide personalised pages of from whom and for how much your ISOs are available, who is seeking any of the pieces you make available for trade, which of your ISOs are in (pre-entered) ebay auctions currently and will alert you by email to any or all of the afformentioned if you select that feature!!! It's a monster of a database and great fun as a collector resource!!! MANY of it's members are very gig-poster oriented, but there seems to be just as much (or nearly as much) attention given to art prints too. Although there are original paintings and T-shirt designs and painted skateboards and god knows what else listed too! Most (almost all probably) of the artists discussed here do feature there in some way. I hope that goes some way toward answering your question and I'm sure I've missed some stuff out too, as it's such a massive site, I certainly haven't seen it all yet, so feel free anyone to correct me or add anything I've omitted. EDIT - I forgot that members vote for "Art of the week" every week and similarly "Art of the year," you just click the nominate button on the detail page for any piece. Some retailers even mention if a piece/edition they're selling has won such an EB award e.g. blkmrktgallery.com/store/?id=5Last week's award was won by Dan McCarthy's current monthly print offering. In fact Grafter was an award winner there too for his "Splash" image a while back. |
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Billy Sport
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February 2008
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by Billy Sport on May 12, 2009 9:19:58 GMT 1, nice post HC thanks for info
nice post HC thanks for info
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T*3
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by T*3 on May 12, 2009 9:47:55 GMT 1, cheers heavy i just signed up and im going to try and find my way around.
seems like they got it all going on!
cheers heavy i just signed up and im going to try and find my way around.
seems like they got it all going on!
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stylus
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by stylus on May 12, 2009 9:54:39 GMT 1, I like the EB site - it's really useful for looking at eBay sales history etc, but my only issue with that feature (and I'm hoping someone can tell me a simple fix!) is that I think the historical data is difficult to correctly interpret.
Taking Banksy as an example, most of the historical sales tend to be UK eBay sales, priced in GBP. But being a US site, it records the value in USD (I presume taking the eBay spot rate on the day of the sale). At the time of the transaction, this is fine, but the issue comes when there's a significant change in the exchange rates over time as we have recently seen. I think that this means that the data plotted on their graph is misleading in terms of the overall pricing trends.
For example (in round figures). A print that sold for £1000 a year ago would be plotted at something like $2000.
The same print could have sold today for the same value: £1000, but it would be plotted at about $1500, so the chart would show a 25% decline in sales prices over 12 months. In USD terms, it's sort of correct, but in local currency terms, it makes the historical data difficult to use because for every transaction in the past, I'd have to go back and figure out the spot rate on that day to get a true sense of the GBP value of the sale.
It's kind of an academic point, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a different perspective on this, or indeed a fix! If I'm wrong btw, feel free to tell me to shut up. 
I like the EB site - it's really useful for looking at eBay sales history etc, but my only issue with that feature (and I'm hoping someone can tell me a simple fix!) is that I think the historical data is difficult to correctly interpret. Taking Banksy as an example, most of the historical sales tend to be UK eBay sales, priced in GBP. But being a US site, it records the value in USD (I presume taking the eBay spot rate on the day of the sale). At the time of the transaction, this is fine, but the issue comes when there's a significant change in the exchange rates over time as we have recently seen. I think that this means that the data plotted on their graph is misleading in terms of the overall pricing trends. For example (in round figures). A print that sold for £1000 a year ago would be plotted at something like $2000. The same print could have sold today for the same value: £1000, but it would be plotted at about $1500, so the chart would show a 25% decline in sales prices over 12 months. In USD terms, it's sort of correct, but in local currency terms, it makes the historical data difficult to use because for every transaction in the past, I'd have to go back and figure out the spot rate on that day to get a true sense of the GBP value of the sale. It's kind of an academic point, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a different perspective on this, or indeed a fix! If I'm wrong btw, feel free to tell me to shut up. |
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bonesy
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by bonesy on May 12, 2009 10:14:39 GMT 1, thats because its stateside -
Though folks in the UK could easily start contributing ebay tracking info too and it could become even more well-rounded.
thats because its stateside -Though folks in the UK could easily start contributing ebay tracking info too and it could become even more well-rounded.
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cpo
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by cpo on May 12, 2009 11:28:52 GMT 1, great idea/question HardCanvas and great review HC.
EB was started in 2003. While it began as a way to track gig prints of bands, namely phish, over the years it grew and evolved into a huge art of all types datebase. The guys that run it and the ones who have since stepped down after giving much of their time to the project are really good people and they strive to improve the not-for-profit everyday.
As far as I know, all donations and money made from clicks and what not, go to the huge amount of uptake the site requires. The Admins and team completely donate their time.
It is a site which is truely improved my those that visit and it is VERY easy to add art and auctions for the trackers. While the UK art is well represented on there, it is admittedly behind that of the US. I think a few of you guys from overseas would be instrumental in adding art to the database, and tracking certain artists for the datebase. Personally, I think that adding art and pictures of the art is more beneficial than adding auctions, but I like both features. I really like how you can then add the images to a 'collection' creat an list, a tradable list and lots more.
The site started gig heavy, but with the street art explosion in Banksy, Shep and others- you can see that it is more well rounded nowadays. EB used to give out a single print of the year award, and now I believe there is a gig print and an art print voted on.
anyway, feel free to take a look over there. I use the datebase way more than the forums, but they are always looking for people to add more art!
great idea/question HardCanvas and great review HC.
EB was started in 2003. While it began as a way to track gig prints of bands, namely phish, over the years it grew and evolved into a huge art of all types datebase. The guys that run it and the ones who have since stepped down after giving much of their time to the project are really good people and they strive to improve the not-for-profit everyday.
As far as I know, all donations and money made from clicks and what not, go to the huge amount of uptake the site requires. The Admins and team completely donate their time.
It is a site which is truely improved my those that visit and it is VERY easy to add art and auctions for the trackers. While the UK art is well represented on there, it is admittedly behind that of the US. I think a few of you guys from overseas would be instrumental in adding art to the database, and tracking certain artists for the datebase. Personally, I think that adding art and pictures of the art is more beneficial than adding auctions, but I like both features. I really like how you can then add the images to a 'collection' creat an list, a tradable list and lots more.
The site started gig heavy, but with the street art explosion in Banksy, Shep and others- you can see that it is more well rounded nowadays. EB used to give out a single print of the year award, and now I believe there is a gig print and an art print voted on.
anyway, feel free to take a look over there. I use the datebase way more than the forums, but they are always looking for people to add more art!
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cpo
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by cpo on May 12, 2009 11:32:54 GMT 1, oh and HardCanvas.. that's a great idea.. Not sure how to implement it, but if you are familar with how that place is run/ and how it looks, I wouldn't put anything past them in improving things...
At the minimum, the site would need to be connected with a historical currency tracker by day. I hope one could do that as easily as this site www.oanda.com/convert/classic?user=onlineconversion&lang=en and hopefully nobody would have to manually imput the data...
great idea though.. that would really help bridge the US with the UK...
oh and HardCanvas.. that's a great idea.. Not sure how to implement it, but if you are familar with how that place is run/ and how it looks, I wouldn't put anything past them in improving things... At the minimum, the site would need to be connected with a historical currency tracker by day. I hope one could do that as easily as this site www.oanda.com/convert/classic?user=onlineconversion&lang=en and hopefully nobody would have to manually imput the data... great idea though.. that would really help bridge the US with the UK... |
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stylus
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by stylus on May 12, 2009 11:47:58 GMT 1, Thanks for the comments, cpo. Interesting stuff.
Thanks for the comments, cpo. Interesting stuff.
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Grubster
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what is www.Expressobeans?, by Grubster on May 12, 2009 16:30:22 GMT 1, yea good luck to all trying to get to EB. It is a great site and we need more people from the UK to share their collection that way we can all share art. its awesome
yea good luck to all trying to get to EB. It is a great site and we need more people from the UK to share their collection that way we can all share art. its awesome
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