Urban Art Association

oh i dunno, its only had a few crap people nominated:

gilbert & george
Lucian Freud
Damien Hirst
Antony Gormley
Tracey Emin
Steve McQueen
Jake and Dinos Chapman

worthless... not so sure.

I do find it amusing though that even these threads dont exist on here now days, at least there used to be a hint, now its all about what flights to book to get where to stand in line for no reason to be first to get a balloon and then get drawn with 3,000 other people trying to win the chance of getting a banksy or micallef but will choose the banksy over the micallef. Why? You tell me.

weird

Because you can't buy a Mark Leckey in an edition size and flip it on eBay.
Because you can't commodify an installation...at least not in this case.
Because the Turner Prize, for the most part, is art wank and bears no relation to its original purpose of highlighting a person who offered the 'greatest contribution to art in Britain in the previous twelve months'.

But mainly because something called intelligent debate on these boards is a non-entity.


When I first saw the show I told someone I was convinced Leckey would win it because it 'looked the sort of thing the judges would like' although I was personally more taken with Runa Islam's video art (if anyone knows me, they will know I abhor video art). The other entrants, were, at best, meh.

I didn't see the show at the Tate, but the shortlist seemed shockingly poor to me, and reinforced for me just why it is that so many people have fallen for street art in recent years. Regardless of what some might say, it's not the money, but the fact that street art at least attempts to connect directly to people, and due to the medium it usually appears on (the street), is forced to communicate its message sharply & directly.

The awards this year seemed completely irrelevant to me. Many great artists have won in the past, but this lot seemed to have nothing to say & no idea about how to say it.

Scousers rule the world even though he's from Birkenhead!

I think people should stop worrying about what 'the art world' thinks of street art. If they want to hang around in sterile galleries staring at incomprehensible bullshit then that's fine by me. I'd really rather not have those kind of people invading my Thursday nights out.

Incidentally, my dad reckons Bortusk Leer should have won!

nice interview

www.tate.org.uk/britain/turnerprize/turnerprize2008/artists/leckey_video.shtm

to be honest he does come across as being a fruit loop short of a box of cheerios but its interesting all the same

typical artist eh...

at the time they are seem to be extreme and not really understood by the mainstream. Look at Hirst, Emin, Gormley and Gilbert & George now though. They have progressed.

Problem is with the turner prize is that its a bit like the mercury music prize in the respect that its always a WTF?? but a few years later that artist will bring something out which everyone is talking about

You have read Warhol quotes before right?

Because all the passionate people here who cared more about the art then the value of the flip have been banned?

Because of or despite the funding/publicity gained from being shortlisted?

You can't expect something earth-shattering every year but you should be able to expect something directional. I see very little of that this year. Leckey's saving grace is his occaisional reversion to artistic craft. I like the devices he's used but not his execution. Homer Simpson was clever but the point made wasn't mind blowing.

But hey...I like John Heartfield. I love Dada. I enjoy Situationist art. My subjective self views the institution of the Turner Prize with suspicion.