Mike Marcus
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please, don't buy this !, by Mike Marcus on Nov 15, 2008 2:44:20 GMT 1, I have no idea but if you are planning to buy one of his works, you should definitely be asking those questions.
I have no idea but if you are planning to buy one of his works, you should definitely be asking those questions.
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Jef Aerosol
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please, don't buy this !, by Jef Aerosol on Nov 15, 2008 2:55:48 GMT 1, When I don't spraypaint on walls, I paste up stencilled paper. The paper I use is extremely thin and fragile : it's paper table cloth you can buy in cheap rolls in supermarkets. Of course, I never sell those, they are only meant to be pasted up on the street.
When I don't spraypaint on walls, I paste up stencilled paper. The paper I use is extremely thin and fragile : it's paper table cloth you can buy in cheap rolls in supermarkets. Of course, I never sell those, they are only meant to be pasted up on the street.
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Jef Aerosol
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please, don't buy this !, by Jef Aerosol on Nov 15, 2008 2:59:40 GMT 1, I work on canvas a lot, but it's true that I also sell pieces on cardboard and when people ask me how long cardboard can last, I always reply that I honestly don't know ! If you want what you buy to last longer than your own life, I guess you'd rather purchase pieces on canvas or wood, or quality paper... But some people like the "raw" aspect of torn cardboard, let them know it's at their own risk !
I work on canvas a lot, but it's true that I also sell pieces on cardboard and when people ask me how long cardboard can last, I always reply that I honestly don't know ! If you want what you buy to last longer than your own life, I guess you'd rather purchase pieces on canvas or wood, or quality paper... But some people like the "raw" aspect of torn cardboard, let them know it's at their own risk !
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raiden
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April 2008
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please, don't buy this !, by raiden on Nov 15, 2008 3:06:25 GMT 1, Well Jef, now that I have this thread as provenance confirming it was actually done by you and not a forgery, I'm bidding the hell out of it!!! (J/K, that blows)
Well Jef, now that I have this thread as provenance confirming it was actually done by you and not a forgery, I'm bidding the hell out of it!!! (J/K, that blows)
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stickee
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please, don't buy this !, by stickee on Nov 15, 2008 6:32:44 GMT 1, He is using his flickr account as a reference for the photos for ebay at the moment so feel free to add comments there and hopefully potential buyers will see the comments
I was out with Mimi the Clown when he pasted the "reclaimed" one on Ebay and that one inparticular got my blood boiling cos it is personal to me in a way..
grrrr grrr grrr
He is using his flickr account as a reference for the photos for ebay at the moment so feel free to add comments there and hopefully potential buyers will see the comments
I was out with Mimi the Clown when he pasted the "reclaimed" one on Ebay and that one inparticular got my blood boiling cos it is personal to me in a way..
grrrr grrr grrr
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romanywg
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please, don't buy this !, by romanywg on Nov 15, 2008 12:21:26 GMT 1, Received a pleasant reply when I said they weren't reclaimed but stolen. "you sound just like that mouthy northern nob jockey sickboy you boys are well up yourselves with your spastic styles and queer agendas, and uppity little personalities... your just a bunch of out of touch spoiled little girls in OLD boys bodies. Especially you you fat t**t. you deserve a good smack in the mouth. happy sculpting, i hope you find a nice eastern european boy who appreciates your depressingly swag approach.
Received a pleasant reply when I said they weren't reclaimed but stolen. "you sound just like that mouthy northern nob jockey sickboy you boys are well up yourselves with your spastic styles and queer agendas, and uppity little personalities... your just a bunch of out of touch spoiled little girls in OLD boys bodies. Especially you you fat t**t. you deserve a good smack in the mouth. happy sculpting, i hope you find a nice eastern european boy who appreciates your depressingly swag approach.
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please, don't buy this !, by wiz on Nov 15, 2008 12:25:47 GMT 1, The silver tongued charmer is alive and well then Romany!, takes all sorts.
The silver tongued charmer is alive and well then Romany!, takes all sorts.
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Prescription Art
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November 2007
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please, don't buy this !, by Prescription Art on Nov 15, 2008 12:56:01 GMT 1, What a cunt Dicey is
What a cunt Dicey is
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Prescription Art
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November 2007
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Mimi the ClowN
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November 2007
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please, don't buy this !, by Mimi the ClowN on Nov 15, 2008 16:18:39 GMT 1, Thanks to Jef for his quick reaction..... i'm with you for sure
My english isn't good enough to allow me to say what i think about thief art so just a few words : F....K YOU ! I'm very very happy to see all these positives comments and to see everybody isn't destroy by money...
Thanks to Jef for his quick reaction..... i'm with you for sure
My english isn't good enough to allow me to say what i think about thief art so just a few words : F....K YOU ! I'm very very happy to see all these positives comments and to see everybody isn't destroy by money...
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please, don't buy this !, by tomjedimaster on Nov 15, 2008 16:30:13 GMT 1, Received a pleasant reply when I said they weren't reclaimed but stolen. "you sound just like that mouthy northern nob jockey sickboy you boys are well up yourselves with your spastic styles and queer agendas, and uppity little personalities... your just a bunch of out of touch spoiled little girls in OLD boys bodies. Especially you you fat t**t. you deserve a good smack in the mouth. happy sculpting, i hope you find a nice eastern european boy who appreciates your depressingly swag approach.
wow, way to treat a potential customer
btw, my parents and sister are from eastern europe, and i appreciate your approach
Received a pleasant reply when I said they weren't reclaimed but stolen. "you sound just like that mouthy northern nob jockey sickboy you boys are well up yourselves with your spastic styles and queer agendas, and uppity little personalities... your just a bunch of out of touch spoiled little girls in OLD boys bodies. Especially you you fat t**t. you deserve a good smack in the mouth. happy sculpting, i hope you find a nice eastern european boy who appreciates your depressingly swag approach. wow, way to treat a potential customer btw, my parents and sister are from eastern europe, and i appreciate your approach
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please, don't buy this !, by wiz on Nov 15, 2008 16:58:59 GMT 1, Thanks to Jef for his quick reaction..... i'm with you for sure My english isn't good enough to allow me to say what i think about thief art so just a few words : F....K YOU ! I'm very very happy to see all these positives comments and to see everybody isn't destroy by money...
Your English is perfect Mimi.
Thanks to Jef for his quick reaction..... i'm with you for sure My english isn't good enough to allow me to say what i think about thief art so just a few words : F....K YOU ! I'm very very happy to see all these positives comments and to see everybody isn't destroy by money... Your English is perfect Mimi.
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L.E.T.
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May 2007
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please, don't buy this !, by L.E.T. on Nov 16, 2008 3:43:20 GMT 1, i think, when you put your art on the streets, you donยดt have any right to say "hands off it"! itยดs pass into public ownership. and if itยดs gone, cool, space for the next piece of art!
i think, when you put your art on the streets, you donยดt have any right to say "hands off it"! itยดs pass into public ownership. and if itยดs gone, cool, space for the next piece of art!
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Jef Aerosol
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please, don't buy this !, by Jef Aerosol on Nov 16, 2008 14:34:51 GMT 1, agreed, LET, this is not what puzzles us at all... the problem is the way that guy seems to systematically remove street pieces with one goal only : make money...
agreed, LET, this is not what puzzles us at all... the problem is the way that guy seems to systematically remove street pieces with one goal only : make money...
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please, don't buy this !, by Deleted on Nov 16, 2008 14:53:35 GMT 1, JA do you make art to make money? i agree he is a cunny funt
JA do you make art to make money? i agree he is a cunny funt
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Jef Aerosol
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please, don't buy this !, by Jef Aerosol on Nov 16, 2008 15:04:40 GMT 1, JA do you make art to make money?
What do you mean ? I do make money with my art, but I certainly don't make art to make money !
JA do you make art to make money? What do you mean ? I do make money with my art, but I certainly don't make art to make money !
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please, don't buy this !, by Deleted on Nov 16, 2008 15:11:32 GMT 1, JA do you make art to make money? What do you mean ? I do make money with my art, but I certainly don't make art to make money !
so on that basis I'll have a 50 x 70 canvas at cost then
JA do you make art to make money? What do you mean ? I do make money with my art, but I certainly don't make art to make money ! so on that basis I'll have a 50 x 70 canvas at cost then
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Gurn
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August 2007
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please, don't buy this !, by Gurn on Nov 16, 2008 15:21:44 GMT 1, What do you mean ? I do make money with my art, but I certainly don't make art to make money ! so on that basis I'll have a 50 x 70 canvas at cost then
Jef is entitled to make money from his art because he produced it,If he puts it on a wall you(and everyone else) get to enjoy it for free.Until some selfish idiot claims it as their own.
What do you mean ? I do make money with my art, but I certainly don't make art to make money ! so on that basis I'll have a 50 x 70 canvas at cost then Jef is entitled to make money from his art because he produced it,If he puts it on a wall you(and everyone else) get to enjoy it for free.Until some selfish idiot claims it as their own.
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stickee
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please, don't buy this !, by stickee on Nov 16, 2008 15:24:13 GMT 1, looks like the auctions have been cancelled by ebay
looks like the auctions have been cancelled by ebay
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please, don't buy this !, by Deleted on Nov 16, 2008 15:27:17 GMT 1, it was a joke
it was a joke
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Mike Marcus
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please, don't buy this !, by Mike Marcus on Nov 16, 2008 15:45:26 GMT 1, I trawled through Ebay's complaints menu looking for anything that I could report him on. Finally got him on keyword spamming and linking to an external chat site.
I assume that others did the same.
I trawled through Ebay's complaints menu looking for anything that I could report him on. Finally got him on keyword spamming and linking to an external chat site.
I assume that others did the same.
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darhart
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please, don't buy this !, by darhart on Nov 16, 2008 16:43:15 GMT 1, I think as soon as a street artist decides to sell his art to the public he puts value to his work and must expect that things of value left on the street will be taken. Plus I firmly believe that anything put on the street after an artist makes the jump to selling his or her work is just advertising. All this faux disgust of removing street pieces is to me nieve at best, im sure (though he'll never admit it) Jeff was a little excited that someone recognised his work and deamed it worth selling, and did he attempt to quietly contact the seller or Ebay to try and get the listing removed or did he post on here with great fanfare (and further advertising) that someone dare sell one of his street pieces (Look my work is being recognised and its worth selling!).
Sorry Jeff im not trying to have a dig at you personaly (and maybe im wide of the mark), this kind of thing just gets on my nerves. And just to make it clear before I no doubt get (Removed)s of abuse the listing has nothing to do with me and I have never removed any art from the street, its just my thoughts on it.
I think as soon as a street artist decides to sell his art to the public he puts value to his work and must expect that things of value left on the street will be taken. Plus I firmly believe that anything put on the street after an artist makes the jump to selling his or her work is just advertising. All this faux disgust of removing street pieces is to me nieve at best, im sure (though he'll never admit it) Jeff was a little excited that someone recognised his work and deamed it worth selling, and did he attempt to quietly contact the seller or Ebay to try and get the listing removed or did he post on here with great fanfare (and further advertising) that someone dare sell one of his street pieces (Look my work is being recognised and its worth selling!). Sorry Jeff im not trying to have a dig at you personaly (and maybe im wide of the mark), this kind of thing just gets on my nerves. And just to make it clear before I no doubt get (Removed)s of abuse the listing has nothing to do with me and I have never removed any art from the street, its just my thoughts on it.
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Jef Aerosol
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please, don't buy this !, by Jef Aerosol on Nov 16, 2008 22:57:43 GMT 1, Hi Darhart Thanks for your message I see what you mean and I agree on the fact that it's sometimes hard nowadays to make the difference between street art and advertising. I suppose that as soon as you sign your street works, you sort of advertize your work. This can be said of today's street art, but things were very different in the 80s, the spirit has changed a lot. About my being "excited that someone recognised my work", I'm afraid you are totally mistaken ! After all that time, being "recognised" on the street by some stupid guy who wants to take my work off the wall to sell it is far from exciting me, I swear ! And the disgust isn't "faux" : I didn't even want to talk to that person. If you could ask my wife and daughter about my reaction when I saw that thing for sale on ebay, you'd know how really disgusted i was ! My starting a thread was a way of warning people and avoid their buying those pieces. As for your "Look my work is being recognised and its worth selling!", I'm very sorry you might think such a thing : my work has been recognized and worth selling for more than 25 years now and I don't need such a sad event to be aware of it... That may have been true when I was still young, and before i started exhibiting seriously and selling my works, that is to say between 1982 and 1985, but not any longer ! I also think that my feelings and way of seeing things is certainly different from someone who was born when street art already existed (can't find the words to express this properly, sorry!)... I'm not saying that about you (don't know your age), but it seems to be the case of many people, obviously (all people who were born in the 80s or later) I mean : when i spraypainted my first stencil on the walls of Tour (Central france) on a night of 1982, I had never seen any street stencil art before ! (because there wasn't any ! Except in Paris where Blek had started a year earlier, but I didn't know him then)... And the very idea of "street art" just didn't exist... By the way, this term ("street art") is quite new, we didn't use it before. So, to put it in a nutshell : yes, I'm excited when people who like my work come and talk to me at shows or send me letters or buy pieces or take photos etc... No, I'm not excited when my street works are taken off the wall to be sold on ebay... and yes, today's situation means that there's always some advertizing in any street piece (even when not meant to be advertizing) except if you don't sign them and know people won't know who did them...
Hi Darhart Thanks for your message I see what you mean and I agree on the fact that it's sometimes hard nowadays to make the difference between street art and advertising. I suppose that as soon as you sign your street works, you sort of advertize your work. This can be said of today's street art, but things were very different in the 80s, the spirit has changed a lot. About my being "excited that someone recognised my work", I'm afraid you are totally mistaken ! After all that time, being "recognised" on the street by some stupid guy who wants to take my work off the wall to sell it is far from exciting me, I swear ! And the disgust isn't "faux" : I didn't even want to talk to that person. If you could ask my wife and daughter about my reaction when I saw that thing for sale on ebay, you'd know how really disgusted i was ! My starting a thread was a way of warning people and avoid their buying those pieces. As for your "Look my work is being recognised and its worth selling!", I'm very sorry you might think such a thing : my work has been recognized and worth selling for more than 25 years now and I don't need such a sad event to be aware of it... That may have been true when I was still young, and before i started exhibiting seriously and selling my works, that is to say between 1982 and 1985, but not any longer ! I also think that my feelings and way of seeing things is certainly different from someone who was born when street art already existed (can't find the words to express this properly, sorry!)... I'm not saying that about you (don't know your age), but it seems to be the case of many people, obviously (all people who were born in the 80s or later) I mean : when i spraypainted my first stencil on the walls of Tour (Central france) on a night of 1982, I had never seen any street stencil art before ! (because there wasn't any ! Except in Paris where Blek had started a year earlier, but I didn't know him then)... And the very idea of "street art" just didn't exist... By the way, this term ("street art") is quite new, we didn't use it before. So, to put it in a nutshell : yes, I'm excited when people who like my work come and talk to me at shows or send me letters or buy pieces or take photos etc... No, I'm not excited when my street works are taken off the wall to be sold on ebay... and yes, today's situation means that there's always some advertizing in any street piece (even when not meant to be advertizing) except if you don't sign them and know people won't know who did them...
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fuzzed
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April 2008
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please, don't buy this !, by fuzzed on Nov 16, 2008 23:00:31 GMT 1, Received a pleasant reply when I said they weren't reclaimed but stolen. "you sound just like that mouthy northern nob jockey sickboy you boys are well up yourselves with your spastic styles and queer agendas, and uppity little personalities... your just a bunch of out of touch spoiled little girls in OLD boys bodies. Especially you you fat t**t. you deserve a good smack in the mouth. happy sculpting, i hope you find a nice eastern european boy who appreciates your depressingly swag approach.
Fucking hell, he sounds a nice bloke.
Received a pleasant reply when I said they weren't reclaimed but stolen. "you sound just like that mouthy northern nob jockey sickboy you boys are well up yourselves with your spastic styles and queer agendas, and uppity little personalities... your just a bunch of out of touch spoiled little girls in OLD boys bodies. Especially you you fat t**t. you deserve a good smack in the mouth. happy sculpting, i hope you find a nice eastern european boy who appreciates your depressingly swag approach. Fucking hell, he sounds a nice bloke.
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please, don't buy this !, by mcnuts on Nov 16, 2008 23:03:04 GMT 1, a great piece to buy if it can be picked up in person
a great piece to buy if it can be picked up in person
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please, don't buy this !, by hero on Nov 16, 2008 23:06:34 GMT 1, Received a pleasant reply when I said they weren't reclaimed but stolen. "you sound just like that mouthy northern nob jockey sickboy you boys are well up yourselves with your spastic styles and queer agendas, and uppity little personalities... your just a bunch of out of touch spoiled little girls in OLD boys bodies. Especially you you fat t**t. you deserve a good smack in the mouth. happy sculpting, i hope you find a nice eastern european boy who appreciates your depressingly swag approach. I EAT BABIES AND PUPPIES WHEN IM HUNGRY....I SPEND THE MONEY I GOT FROM OTHER PEOPLES ART ON THEM
is there any minority he hasnt offended in that sentance
(just try and find my amazing alteration)
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Received a pleasant reply when I said they weren't reclaimed but stolen. "you sound just like that mouthy northern nob jockey sickboy you boys are well up yourselves with your spastic styles and queer agendas, and uppity little personalities... your just a bunch of out of touch spoiled little girls in OLD boys bodies. Especially you you fat t**t. you deserve a good smack in the mouth. happy sculpting, i hope you find a nice eastern european boy who appreciates your depressingly swag approach. I EAT BABIES AND PUPPIES WHEN IM HUNGRY....I SPEND THE MONEY I GOT FROM OTHER PEOPLES ART ON THEM is there any minority he hasnt offended in that sentance (just try and find my amazing alteration) H
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darhart
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please, don't buy this !, by darhart on Nov 16, 2008 23:37:05 GMT 1, Great reply Jeff, thanks. I guess I look at things like this with a some what cynical eye. I can totaly see the point of art being put on the street purely for the sake of art/fun/expression etc, but can't help feel (especially these days where anyone it seems can stick so called "art" on a wall and be signed up to produce the editioned print) there are very few commercial artists that don't see it as great advertising first and art second. It dosn't help that you seem to find most paste ups in the areas around galleries showing that kind of work rather than a dowdy street that could do with brightening up (the true spirit of street art). I still firmly believe that work left on the street has been handed over to the street and people on it to do as they wish. If artists would prefer their art not to be taken down and sold why not remove the value and offer un-editioned un signed paste ups for a nominal fee, say ยฃ5, leaving the signed better quality work to the galleries?
Great reply Jeff, thanks. I guess I look at things like this with a some what cynical eye. I can totaly see the point of art being put on the street purely for the sake of art/fun/expression etc, but can't help feel (especially these days where anyone it seems can stick so called "art" on a wall and be signed up to produce the editioned print) there are very few commercial artists that don't see it as great advertising first and art second. It dosn't help that you seem to find most paste ups in the areas around galleries showing that kind of work rather than a dowdy street that could do with brightening up (the true spirit of street art). I still firmly believe that work left on the street has been handed over to the street and people on it to do as they wish. If artists would prefer their art not to be taken down and sold why not remove the value and offer un-editioned un signed paste ups for a nominal fee, say ยฃ5, leaving the signed better quality work to the galleries?
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linkd95
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July 2008
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please, don't buy this !, by linkd95 on Nov 16, 2008 23:39:31 GMT 1, he probably used some type of steamer.
he probably used some type of steamer.
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dmandpenfold
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please, don't buy this !, by dmandpenfold on Nov 17, 2008 10:49:06 GMT 1, use better glue Jef, something that'll proper knacker the paste up if someone tries to remove it
use better glue Jef, something that'll proper knacker the paste up if someone tries to remove it
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Mike Marcus
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August 2008
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please, don't buy this !, by Mike Marcus on Nov 17, 2008 22:48:53 GMT 1, Darhart: Don't you think that artists deserve to be able to pay their rent the same as everyone else?
Darhart: Don't you think that artists deserve to be able to pay their rent the same as everyone else?
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