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Ebay V Auction House, by Daniel Silk on Oct 23, 2008 18:02:05 GMT 1, Dunt it seem like more and more people are selling pieces at the big Auction Houses now rather than ebay.
What do you think is the reason for this?
Do you think the Auction Houses are getting higher prices compared to ebay?
Dunt it seem like more and more people are selling pieces at the big Auction Houses now rather than ebay.
What do you think is the reason for this?
Do you think the Auction Houses are getting higher prices compared to ebay?
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Ebay V Auction House, by giiiant on Oct 23, 2008 18:05:46 GMT 1, it sucks but what can you do, at least when the urban art gallery scene collapses i get to say "you brought this upon yourselves" and other wise-sounding s**t for e-respect
but really i think putting anything less than 5 years old into auction without prior permission from the artist is a pretty rude thing to do
it sucks but what can you do, at least when the urban art gallery scene collapses i get to say "you brought this upon yourselves" and other wise-sounding s**t for e-respect
but really i think putting anything less than 5 years old into auction without prior permission from the artist is a pretty rude thing to do
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G-Man
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Ebay V Auction House, by G-Man on Oct 24, 2008 15:11:13 GMT 1, This is interesting Silky
It seems that once you've paid your fees etc you can still get more on Ebay but some people like the transparency of an auction house even though you end up paying more
Following Ebay and auction results it seems a bit random at the moment though as some sell for higher in each
This is interesting Silky
It seems that once you've paid your fees etc you can still get more on Ebay but some people like the transparency of an auction house even though you end up paying more
Following Ebay and auction results it seems a bit random at the moment though as some sell for higher in each
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silvermyn
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Ebay V Auction House, by silvermyn on Oct 24, 2008 15:21:33 GMT 1, An auction house will also verify authenticity as it is their name on-the-line at the end of the day. That would be a huge plus when buying from a respectable auction house.
If you buy off eBay you've got to do all the checking yourself. Definately a lot less certainty in that respect but in return you could get a better deal.
An auction house will also verify authenticity as it is their name on-the-line at the end of the day. That would be a huge plus when buying from a respectable auction house.
If you buy off eBay you've got to do all the checking yourself. Definately a lot less certainty in that respect but in return you could get a better deal.
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greeneny
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Ebay V Auction House, by greeneny on Oct 24, 2008 15:39:42 GMT 1, There's bragging rights when buying at auction. Makes you feel like "you've arrived" and you pay for that cachet. The auction is often an event to go to see and be seen.
As for authenticity and the responsibility of the auction house, all I can say is Sotheby's here in NY often got caught selling fakes. Perhaps they've changed things but recently the NY Police needed to authenticate and evaluate a Warhol that I bought there years ago - and they refused.
Didn't want any responsibility.
Even after a call from the District Attorney's office, they still refused.
And Ebay has its own set of pluses and minuses for sure. I think you can find interesting items on eBay up to a price point. And shipping is a concern with ebay unless you're buying from a gallery. Tubes, especially during holiday time can get crushed - as happened to me with a Bast print, but a gallery or auction house has the packing expertise to take all of that into consideration when deciding how to pack. For example had that print been shipped in a tube made of some of the newer synthetic plumbing material, it probably would have prevented the damage. It also would have cost a bit more for the postage, but thats a lot cheaper then causing the crease that occurred.
Ebay also drives the auction houses to continue to push their tech envelope with streaming and live auctions and all sorts of innovation that I suspect they never would have bothered with.
So to sum it up for me we need them both and they both serve a purpose. Its sort of a symbiotic relationship in my opinion.
Viva la ebay, viva la auction houses ...
lol
There's bragging rights when buying at auction. Makes you feel like "you've arrived" and you pay for that cachet. The auction is often an event to go to see and be seen.
As for authenticity and the responsibility of the auction house, all I can say is Sotheby's here in NY often got caught selling fakes. Perhaps they've changed things but recently the NY Police needed to authenticate and evaluate a Warhol that I bought there years ago - and they refused.
Didn't want any responsibility.
Even after a call from the District Attorney's office, they still refused.
And Ebay has its own set of pluses and minuses for sure. I think you can find interesting items on eBay up to a price point. And shipping is a concern with ebay unless you're buying from a gallery. Tubes, especially during holiday time can get crushed - as happened to me with a Bast print, but a gallery or auction house has the packing expertise to take all of that into consideration when deciding how to pack. For example had that print been shipped in a tube made of some of the newer synthetic plumbing material, it probably would have prevented the damage. It also would have cost a bit more for the postage, but thats a lot cheaper then causing the crease that occurred.
Ebay also drives the auction houses to continue to push their tech envelope with streaming and live auctions and all sorts of innovation that I suspect they never would have bothered with.
So to sum it up for me we need them both and they both serve a purpose. Its sort of a symbiotic relationship in my opinion.
Viva la ebay, viva la auction houses ...
lol
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Ebay V Auction House, by Daniel Silk on Oct 24, 2008 15:44:57 GMT 1, Yeah, I guess if you pay thousands of a piece of Art your gonna be much happier dealing with Sotheby's rather than someone on ebay who you might know nothing about.
Yeah, I guess if you pay thousands of a piece of Art your gonna be much happier dealing with Sotheby's rather than someone on ebay who you might know nothing about.
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Heavyconsumer
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Ebay V Auction House, by Heavyconsumer on Oct 24, 2008 16:14:26 GMT 1, This is interesting Silky It seems that once you've paid your fees etc you can still get more on Ebay but some people like the transparency of an auction house even though you end up paying more Following Ebay and auction results it seems a bit random at the moment though as some sell for higher in each
So long as ebay listings aren't "private" I'm not sure they're less transparent than auction houses. Less fashionable and less prestigious yes, but less transparent? Not imo. There seem to frequently be questions of who bought what or bid it up and why, not to mention that the auction house themselves have the ability and at times inclination to effect bidding in various ways. I'm not knocking the houses at all, I just don't agree that they're very transparent, as you have no ide who's online or on the phones or how legit the starting bids taking the price close to the reserve level are. Of course there are advantages of houses, such as knowing you'll get the item in the promised condition and that you should be looked after properly if that's not the case.
I do agree that there seems little rhyme or reason in comparing price trends between the two selling platforms at the moment though. Clearly many sellers saw strong results at the beginning of the year and were only too happy to indulge the auction houses will to cater to the latest fad, in the hope that results would remain much stronger than ebay sales. I think buyers have wised up a bit though where prints are concerned (except for Morons of course ;D).
This is interesting Silky It seems that once you've paid your fees etc you can still get more on Ebay but some people like the transparency of an auction house even though you end up paying more Following Ebay and auction results it seems a bit random at the moment though as some sell for higher in each So long as ebay listings aren't "private" I'm not sure they're less transparent than auction houses. Less fashionable and less prestigious yes, but less transparent? Not imo. There seem to frequently be questions of who bought what or bid it up and why, not to mention that the auction house themselves have the ability and at times inclination to effect bidding in various ways. I'm not knocking the houses at all, I just don't agree that they're very transparent, as you have no ide who's online or on the phones or how legit the starting bids taking the price close to the reserve level are. Of course there are advantages of houses, such as knowing you'll get the item in the promised condition and that you should be looked after properly if that's not the case. I do agree that there seems little rhyme or reason in comparing price trends between the two selling platforms at the moment though. Clearly many sellers saw strong results at the beginning of the year and were only too happy to indulge the auction houses will to cater to the latest fad, in the hope that results would remain much stronger than ebay sales. I think buyers have wised up a bit though where prints are concerned (except for Morons of course ;D). |
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