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Bloody hell....

Never fails to surprise me that there are people that messed up still around today!

Haha, no he's not, he's amazing, and never wrong.

Yeah I agree although I was surprised to hear last week that 39% of Britons still believe in creationism, that's a turn out that could get you elected.

Really? If true, that's appauling. Fact vs fiction, simple as that.

It looks as though that's the Westboro Baptist Church,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

Louis Theroux did a documentary on them which is worth watching.

Man thought these creeps where only in the USA, if they also gonna come to the netherlands they can expect some paint on their 'church'

And that fact that one of these religious nuts is potentially going to be the most powerful woman in the planet is really very scary!

No, youre wrong. Being gay, black, a diabled, a woman etc etc etc are things that you cannot change. Belieivng in gibberish is something you can change... That means I can call them morons, as I would anyone who told me the earth was flat or that the Easter Bunny was real...

There's a huge leap from Creationists to the Westboro baptist church!
These guys are hilarious. It's basically just one family in the US. Not really a "church" or even a cult!

Sorry funyoung, but the theory of evolution is backed up by caseloads of scientific evidence whilst creationism has none. It's as simple as that, it's not about "What I believe in" and having respect for it, it's just fact, sadly the internet and it's endless pages of consiracy and the freedom for people to say whatever they want has blurred the lines, with people not truly understanding science and what it represents.

Why believe in something that has no rationality and thrives but on superstition. In fact the church recently released an apology to Darwin for their short-sighted reaction to his theory.

Also, this has nothing to do with normative beliefs, i.e. how one should live their lives, be it sexual preference, how to dress etc. But facts, how things are, how the world is.

This post on the BBC website sums things up pretty well imo -

The media wrongly describes this as a debate between creationism and evolutionary theory. In fact, the debate is between creationism and the whole of science as we know it. If the universe is less than 10,000 years old, then: all of geology and biology are wrong; the speed of light has been wrongly calculated, so Einsteinian physics is wrong; the distance and speed of other galaxies has been wrongly calculated, meaning that all of astronomy and therefore Newtonian physics are also wrong. For informed people to challenge accepted scientific orthodoxy on the basis of proper evidence is always healthy, but to debunk the whole of science on the back of a story passed down by some Iron Age goat-herders is just self-delusion.
Neil Butcher, Brighton

I deplore organised religion of any form, but for me the Creationist's take the biscuit (or maybe the banana)

"I'm no kin to the monkey no no no, The monkey's no kin to me yeah yeah yeah, I don't know much about his ancestors, But mine didn't swing from a tree."

As an ex-Psychiatric Nurse I long ago learned that challenging delusional beliefs was to be done, if at all, by indirect means rather than head on rebuttals, and that is how I dealt with the creationists and evangelists who infested the homeless charities and drug re-habs I used to work in.

However, once I did just lose it completley at a dinner party...interesting bloke throwing party, well travelled, extensive collection of fossils on his shelves...I start talking to nice young lady opposite about the fossils,and a little alarm bell goes off in my head (was that God giving me a 'watchit Jonesy, you're going to talk yourself out of a fuck here'.?.) as I mention them and the beliefs that Evangelicals have about fossils, when she gives me that superior smile that Born-Agains have and says,

' Actually, I am a christian and I do believe that they were planted by the devil to lead us astray from the true belief of creationism...so perhaps we best not talk about it here'....smug dismissall of me..I then ask what she does for a living....she's a scientist working in the Pathology lab of the local hospital doing blood samples, tissue typing etc etc.....and nothing I said made the slightest difference to her views, because she didn't 'know', she 'believed', which is so much better, isn't it?

So yes I do think they all have a mental illness and should be injected forcibly....I think you can guess I dont work in Mental Health anymore.....