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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by insite on Sept 15, 2008 14:56:46 GMT 1, This was just posted on flickr
Be warned these are some very unpleasant views, and pretty stupid, hey let's use an image criticising institutionalised homophobia to illustrate our extreme homophobic views, c**t.
www.godhatestheworld.com/unitedkingdom/government.html
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bmjt
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by bmjt on Sept 15, 2008 15:05:26 GMT 1, That's horrendous. I'm rather glad I have nothing to do with religion any more.
That's horrendous. I'm rather glad I have nothing to do with religion any more.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by iAmCxxx on Sept 15, 2008 15:10:41 GMT 1, Bloody hell....
Bloody hell....
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by Daniel Silk on Sept 15, 2008 15:11:54 GMT 1,
Its scary that we live in a world with people that have views like that
I love wearing my Banksy t-shirt that says "Born Against Christians" ;D
Its scary that we live in a world with people that have views like that I love wearing my Banksy t-shirt that says "Born Against Christians" ;D
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by Dellboyy on Sept 15, 2008 15:14:10 GMT 1, Never fails to surprise me that there are people that messed up still around today!
Never fails to surprise me that there are people that messed up still around today!
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by docmax on Sept 15, 2008 15:15:54 GMT 1, whatever happened to love thy neighbour?
Tis a shame that Dawkins is making a bad name for all us atheists by generally being a pompous tit.
whatever happened to love thy neighbour?
Tis a shame that Dawkins is making a bad name for all us atheists by generally being a pompous tit.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by bmjt on Sept 15, 2008 15:21:32 GMT 1, Haha, no he's not, he's amazing, and never wrong.
Haha, no he's not, he's amazing, and never wrong.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by woodsman on Sept 15, 2008 15:23:24 GMT 1, Dawkins for Prime Minister, never have i heard so much sense!
Dawkins for Prime Minister, never have i heard so much sense!
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by insite on Sept 15, 2008 15:25:05 GMT 1, Never fails to surprise me that there are people that messed up still around today!
Yeah I agree although I was surprised to hear last week that 39% of Britons still believe in creationism, that's a turn out that could get you elected.
Never fails to surprise me that there are people that messed up still around today! Yeah I agree although I was surprised to hear last week that 39% of Britons still believe in creationism, that's a turn out that could get you elected.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by Deleted on Sept 15, 2008 15:27:02 GMT 1, Never fails to surprise me that there are people that messed up still around today! Yeah I agree although I was surprised to hear last week that 39% of Britons still believe in creationism, that's a turn out that could get you elected.
I always reckoned Creationism was just a flash in the pan.
Never fails to surprise me that there are people that messed up still around today! Yeah I agree although I was surprised to hear last week that 39% of Britons still believe in creationism, that's a turn out that could get you elected. I always reckoned Creationism was just a flash in the pan.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by bmjt on Sept 15, 2008 15:35:58 GMT 1, Never fails to surprise me that there are people that messed up still around today! Yeah I agree although I was surprised to hear last week that 39% of Britons still believe in creationism, that's a turn out that could get you elected.
Really? If true, that's appauling. Fact vs fiction, simple as that.
Never fails to surprise me that there are people that messed up still around today! Yeah I agree although I was surprised to hear last week that 39% of Britons still believe in creationism, that's a turn out that could get you elected. Really? If true, that's appauling. Fact vs fiction, simple as that.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by Dellboyy on Sept 15, 2008 15:38:52 GMT 1, Yeah I agree although I was surprised to hear last week that 39% of Britons still believe in creationism, that's a turn out that could get you elected. Really? If true, that's appauling. Fact vs fiction, simple as that.
Yeah i was just reading about that, there's a museum somewhere like portsmouth dedicated to creationism believe it or not!
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7613403.stm
Yeah I agree although I was surprised to hear last week that 39% of Britons still believe in creationism, that's a turn out that could get you elected. Really? If true, that's appauling. Fact vs fiction, simple as that. Yeah i was just reading about that, there's a museum somewhere like portsmouth dedicated to creationism believe it or not! news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7613403.stm
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by saltandiron on Sept 15, 2008 15:39:47 GMT 1, It looks as though that's the Westboro Baptist Church,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
Louis Theroux did a documentary on them which is worth watching.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by bmjt on Sept 15, 2008 15:49:27 GMT 1, Yeah I watched that, brain wash central. Happens all the time, usually one or two key members drip-feed a bunch of kids their tripe under the guise of religion.
Yeah I watched that, brain wash central. Happens all the time, usually one or two key members drip-feed a bunch of kids their tripe under the guise of religion.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by GVD on Sept 15, 2008 15:56:45 GMT 1, Man thought these creeps where only in the USA, if they also gonna come to the netherlands they can expect some paint on their 'church'
Man thought these creeps where only in the USA, if they also gonna come to the netherlands they can expect some paint on their 'church'
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by Michael Jacob on Sept 15, 2008 16:40:12 GMT 1, thats some crazy shit!
thats some crazy shit!
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by woodsman on Sept 15, 2008 17:08:08 GMT 1, And that fact that one of these religious nuts is potentially going to be the most powerful woman in the planet is really very scary!
And that fact that one of these religious nuts is potentially going to be the most powerful woman in the planet is really very scary!
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by funyoung on Sept 15, 2008 20:53:51 GMT 1, Careful people. Some of you are putting people down as a result of their strong religious beliefs. Makes you look as though you are on the road to being as bad as the homophobes in my eyes. Creationists are entitled to their beliefs, be they right or wrong in your eyes, unless they try to force their beliefs upon you. If they have then please direct me to that thread and ignore the above ....
Careful people. Some of you are putting people down as a result of their strong religious beliefs. Makes you look as though you are on the road to being as bad as the homophobes in my eyes. Creationists are entitled to their beliefs, be they right or wrong in your eyes, unless they try to force their beliefs upon you. If they have then please direct me to that thread and ignore the above ....
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by paulypaul on Sept 15, 2008 21:01:52 GMT 1, Careful people. Some of you are putting people down as a result of their strong religious beliefs. Makes you look as though you are on the road to being as bad as the homophobes in my eyes. Creationists are entitled to their beliefs, .
No, youre wrong. Being gay, black, a diabled, a woman etc etc etc are things that you cannot change. Belieivng in gibberish is something you can change... That means I can call them morons, as I would anyone who told me the earth was flat or that the Easter Bunny was real...
Careful people. Some of you are putting people down as a result of their strong religious beliefs. Makes you look as though you are on the road to being as bad as the homophobes in my eyes. Creationists are entitled to their beliefs, . No, youre wrong. Being gay, black, a diabled, a woman etc etc etc are things that you cannot change. Belieivng in gibberish is something you can change... That means I can call them morons, as I would anyone who told me the earth was flat or that the Easter Bunny was real...
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by funyoung on Sept 15, 2008 21:28:35 GMT 1, Careful people. Some of you are putting people down as a result of their strong religious beliefs. Makes you look as though you are on the road to being as bad as the homophobes in my eyes. Creationists are entitled to their beliefs, . No, youre wrong. Being gay, black, a diabled, a woman etc etc etc are things that you cannot change. Belieivng in gibberish is something you can change... That means I can call them morons, as I would anyone who told me the earth was flat or that the Easter Bunny was real...
In that case. You, sir, are a moron. Have a nice day.
Careful people. Some of you are putting people down as a result of their strong religious beliefs. Makes you look as though you are on the road to being as bad as the homophobes in my eyes. Creationists are entitled to their beliefs, . No, youre wrong. Being gay, black, a diabled, a woman etc etc etc are things that you cannot change. Belieivng in gibberish is something you can change... That means I can call them morons, as I would anyone who told me the earth was flat or that the Easter Bunny was real... In that case. You, sir, are a moron. Have a nice day.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by Happy Shopper on Sept 15, 2008 22:43:40 GMT 1, There's a huge leap from Creationists to the Westboro baptist church! These guys are hilarious. It's basically just one family in the US. Not really a "church" or even a cult!
There's a huge leap from Creationists to the Westboro baptist church! These guys are hilarious. It's basically just one family in the US. Not really a "church" or even a cult!
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by goffy on Sept 15, 2008 23:58:31 GMT 1, Careful people. Some of you are putting people down as a result of their strong religious beliefs. Makes you look as though you are on the road to being as bad as the homophobes in my eyes. Creationists are entitled to their beliefs, be they right or wrong in your eyes, unless they try to force their beliefs upon you. If they have then please direct me to that thread and ignore the above ....
I think you are the moron. These idiot creationists are in the fucking White House trying to force their beliefs around the world. Can you get voted president if you said that you don't believe in a god, no fucking way. All the bollox about one nation under god was actually added to the Constitution later on therefore forcing their beliefs on you then and now. There is no god, and the creationists belief of the Ta Da! theory of the beginning of the world is nonsense.
Careful people. Some of you are putting people down as a result of their strong religious beliefs. Makes you look as though you are on the road to being as bad as the homophobes in my eyes. Creationists are entitled to their beliefs, be they right or wrong in your eyes, unless they try to force their beliefs upon you. If they have then please direct me to that thread and ignore the above .... I think you are the moron. These idiot creationists are in the fucking White House trying to force their beliefs around the world. Can you get voted president if you said that you don't believe in a god, no fucking way. All the bollox about one nation under god was actually added to the Constitution later on therefore forcing their beliefs on you then and now. There is no god, and the creationists belief of the Ta Da! theory of the beginning of the world is nonsense.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by bmjt on Sept 16, 2008 0:25:55 GMT 1, Sorry funyoung, but the theory of evolution is backed up by caseloads of scientific evidence whilst creationism has none. It's as simple as that, it's not about "What I believe in" and having respect for it, it's just fact, sadly the internet and it's endless pages of consiracy and the freedom for people to say whatever they want has blurred the lines, with people not truly understanding science and what it represents.
Why believe in something that has no rationality and thrives but on superstition. In fact the church recently released an apology to Darwin for their short-sighted reaction to his theory.
Also, this has nothing to do with normative beliefs, i.e. how one should live their lives, be it sexual preference, how to dress etc. But facts, how things are, how the world is.
Sorry funyoung, but the theory of evolution is backed up by caseloads of scientific evidence whilst creationism has none. It's as simple as that, it's not about "What I believe in" and having respect for it, it's just fact, sadly the internet and it's endless pages of consiracy and the freedom for people to say whatever they want has blurred the lines, with people not truly understanding science and what it represents.
Why believe in something that has no rationality and thrives but on superstition. In fact the church recently released an apology to Darwin for their short-sighted reaction to his theory.
Also, this has nothing to do with normative beliefs, i.e. how one should live their lives, be it sexual preference, how to dress etc. But facts, how things are, how the world is.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by woodsman on Sept 16, 2008 7:43:37 GMT 1, bmjt, welll stated! i was going to start name calling and swearing but yours is a much more grown up response.
bmjt, welll stated! i was going to start name calling and swearing but yours is a much more grown up response.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by klyde on Sept 16, 2008 8:15:52 GMT 1, This post on the BBC website sums things up pretty well imo -
The media wrongly describes this as a debate between creationism and evolutionary theory. In fact, the debate is between creationism and the whole of science as we know it. If the universe is less than 10,000 years old, then: all of geology and biology are wrong; the speed of light has been wrongly calculated, so Einsteinian physics is wrong; the distance and speed of other galaxies has been wrongly calculated, meaning that all of astronomy and therefore Newtonian physics are also wrong. For informed people to challenge accepted scientific orthodoxy on the basis of proper evidence is always healthy, but to debunk the whole of science on the back of a story passed down by some Iron Age goat-herders is just self-delusion. Neil Butcher, Brighton
This post on the BBC website sums things up pretty well imo -
The media wrongly describes this as a debate between creationism and evolutionary theory. In fact, the debate is between creationism and the whole of science as we know it. If the universe is less than 10,000 years old, then: all of geology and biology are wrong; the speed of light has been wrongly calculated, so Einsteinian physics is wrong; the distance and speed of other galaxies has been wrongly calculated, meaning that all of astronomy and therefore Newtonian physics are also wrong. For informed people to challenge accepted scientific orthodoxy on the basis of proper evidence is always healthy, but to debunk the whole of science on the back of a story passed down by some Iron Age goat-herders is just self-delusion. Neil Butcher, Brighton
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by bmjt on Sept 16, 2008 9:39:03 GMT 1, Precisely.
Precisely.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by manchestermike on Sept 16, 2008 9:42:15 GMT 1, I deplore organised religion of any form, but for me the Creationist's take the biscuit (or maybe the banana)
"I'm no kin to the monkey no no no, The monkey's no kin to me yeah yeah yeah, I don't know much about his ancestors, But mine didn't swing from a tree."
I deplore organised religion of any form, but for me the Creationist's take the biscuit (or maybe the banana)
"I'm no kin to the monkey no no no, The monkey's no kin to me yeah yeah yeah, I don't know much about his ancestors, But mine didn't swing from a tree."
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by insite on Sept 16, 2008 10:49:21 GMT 1, Careful people. Some of you are putting people down as a result of their strong religious beliefs. Makes you look as though you are on the road to being as bad as the homophobes in my eyes. Creationists are entitled to their beliefs, be they right or wrong in your eyes, unless they try to force their beliefs upon you. If they have then please direct me to that thread and ignore the above ....
It's being taught in some schools so maybe it's not being forced on me but there is a desire to force it on kids, maybe mine. These are nothing more than myths and unless taught alongside all world myths can not be considered in their true context.
Careful people. Some of you are putting people down as a result of their strong religious beliefs. Makes you look as though you are on the road to being as bad as the homophobes in my eyes. Creationists are entitled to their beliefs, be they right or wrong in your eyes, unless they try to force their beliefs upon you. If they have then please direct me to that thread and ignore the above .... It's being taught in some schools so maybe it's not being forced on me but there is a desire to force it on kids, maybe mine. These are nothing more than myths and unless taught alongside all world myths can not be considered in their true context.
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by jonesy on Sept 16, 2008 12:05:48 GMT 1, As an ex-Psychiatric Nurse I long ago learned that challenging delusional beliefs was to be done, if at all, by indirect means rather than head on rebuttals, and that is how I dealt with the creationists and evangelists who infested the homeless charities and drug re-habs I used to work in.
However, once I did just lose it completley at a dinner party...interesting bloke throwing party, well travelled, extensive collection of fossils on his shelves...I start talking to nice young lady opposite about the fossils,and a little alarm bell goes off in my head (was that God giving me a 'watchit Jonesy, you're going to talk yourself out of a fuck here'.?.) as I mention them and the beliefs that Evangelicals have about fossils, when she gives me that superior smile that Born-Agains have and says,
' Actually, I am a christian and I do believe that they were planted by the devil to lead us astray from the true belief of creationism...so perhaps we best not talk about it here'....smug dismissall of me..I then ask what she does for a living....she's a scientist working in the Pathology lab of the local hospital doing blood samples, tissue typing etc etc.....and nothing I said made the slightest difference to her views, because she didn't 'know', she 'believed', which is so much better, isn't it?
So yes I do think they all have a mental illness and should be injected forcibly....I think you can guess I dont work in Mental Health anymore.....
As an ex-Psychiatric Nurse I long ago learned that challenging delusional beliefs was to be done, if at all, by indirect means rather than head on rebuttals, and that is how I dealt with the creationists and evangelists who infested the homeless charities and drug re-habs I used to work in.
However, once I did just lose it completley at a dinner party...interesting bloke throwing party, well travelled, extensive collection of fossils on his shelves...I start talking to nice young lady opposite about the fossils,and a little alarm bell goes off in my head (was that God giving me a 'watchit Jonesy, you're going to talk yourself out of a fuck here'.?.) as I mention them and the beliefs that Evangelicals have about fossils, when she gives me that superior smile that Born-Agains have and says,
' Actually, I am a christian and I do believe that they were planted by the devil to lead us astray from the true belief of creationism...so perhaps we best not talk about it here'....smug dismissall of me..I then ask what she does for a living....she's a scientist working in the Pathology lab of the local hospital doing blood samples, tissue typing etc etc.....and nothing I said made the slightest difference to her views, because she didn't 'know', she 'believed', which is so much better, isn't it?
So yes I do think they all have a mental illness and should be injected forcibly....I think you can guess I dont work in Mental Health anymore.....
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Most innapropriate use of a Banksy ever ?, by funyoung on Sept 16, 2008 22:44:22 GMT 1, Now I don't like the idea of teaching Creationism to children any more than Insite. I don't see why grown, free thinking adults should be sought out and abused because they choose to believe in Creationism however. I didn't know too much about them so have done some reading. The question I can't seem to answer is this: "Why is Creationism bad?" And I mean bad enough to start abusing them. Now I can find plenty of evidence as to why Evolution is right but I can't seem to understand why Creationism is bad (whether it is right or wrong is not the question). Can someone please tell me why Creationism is bad enough to start calling people morons?
Now I don't like the idea of teaching Creationism to children any more than Insite. I don't see why grown, free thinking adults should be sought out and abused because they choose to believe in Creationism however. I didn't know too much about them so have done some reading. The question I can't seem to answer is this: "Why is Creationism bad?" And I mean bad enough to start abusing them. Now I can find plenty of evidence as to why Evolution is right but I can't seem to understand why Creationism is bad (whether it is right or wrong is not the question). Can someone please tell me why Creationism is bad enough to start calling people morons?
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