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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by john1539 on Oct 11, 2012 9:43:05 GMT 1, I definitely Phillips de Pury and Company is the best auction house to buy Contemporary Art, photographs and design !!! Don't hesitate
I definitely Phillips de Pury and Company is the best auction house to buy Contemporary Art, photographs and design !!! Don't hesitate
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on Oct 11, 2012 16:15:16 GMT 1, >>>at 2-3k you're going to struggle. You might, might be able to get a Ladies and Gentlemen plate if you're lucky.<<<
You would be surprised. Here are a few (there were lots more) form the past 3 months
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TitleFrom 25 Cats Name(d) Sam and One Blue Pussy
Mediumoffset lithograph w/handcoloring
Year of Work1954
SizeHeight 8.9 in.; Width 5.9 in. / Height 22.5 cm.; Width 15 cm.
Editioned.190
Cat. Rais.IV.52A, Feldman and Schellmann
Found./Pub.Seymour, prntr
Sale ofMallet Japan: Friday, September 28, 2012 [Lot 00270]
Modern and Contemporary Art
Estimate200,000 - 250,000 JPY (2,566 - 3,208 USD)
Sold For 277,800 JPY (3,565 USD) PREMIUM Currency Converter
Imo, this is arguably his best print run though the market thinks otherwise (fwiw, i've never seen any of these in a gallery under $7k and more often than not they are $15-50k) :
Andy Warhol
Title Electric Chair
Mediumcolor silkscreen
SizeHeight 90.2 in.; Width 121.9 in. / Height 229.1 cm.; Width 309.6 cm.
Edition AP XIX/L
Cat. Rais. II.76, Feldman & Schellmann
Found./Pub.Bruno Bischofberger, pub.; Silkprint Kettner, prntr
Misc. Signed, Inscribed, Stamped
Sale of Bloomsbury Auctions: Thursday, September 27, 2012 [Lot 00485]Modern & Contemporary Prints
Estimate 3,000 - 4,000 GBP (4,863 - 6,485 USD)
Sold For 2,600 GBP (4,215 USD) HAMMER
You can't get much more iconic than this:
Andy Warhol
Title Flowers (signed)
Medium prints and multiples, offset lithograph
Year of Work 1964
Printing/Casting 1964
Size Height 21.9 in.; Width 21.9 in. / Height 55.6 cm.; Width 55.6 cm.
Cat. Rais. II.6, Feldman & Schellmann
Found./Pub. Total Color, New York; Leo Castelli, New York
Misc. Signed
Sale of artnet Auctions: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 [Lot 70794]
artnet Auctions
Estimate 3,500 - 4,500 USD
Sold For 3,450 USD PREMIUM Currency Converter
Andy Warhol
Title Committee 2000
Medium screenprint
Year of Work 1982
Size Height 30.3 in.; Width 20 in. / Height 77 cm.; Width 50.7 cm.
Edition 1619/2000
Cat. Rais. II.289, Feldman & Schellmann
Found./Pub. Committee 2000, pub.; Rupert Jasen Smith, prntr
Misc. Signed
Sale of Mallet Japan: Friday, July 20, 2012 [Lot 00251]
Modern and Contemporary Art
Estimate 150,000 - 200,000 JPY (1,911 - 2,548 USD)
Sold For 231,500 JPY (2,949 USD) PREMIUM Currency Converter
My artnet search of warhol signed prints up to $5k returned over 2500 entries (all auction) and the first 100 take us back just to November of last year. Most galleries (not all) will suggest these are far more rare and valuable than thier auction prices. And if you have some retail space, who can blame someone from buying at auction and inflating by 5 or 6 fold and willing to cut price by 50% from any would be buyer? No disrespect meant to anyone, but, with rare exception, edition Warhol is far better sourced at auction on your wallet.
edit: For those curious (i'm not giong to copy them all) but a quick scan of the past 100 prints under $5k at auction include many of the above plus brillo, lots of 50s hand colored lithos, 7 or 8 different electric chairs (that would be my target in your shoes), many ladies and gentlemen, many cows, couple space fruit, couple st. apollonia, flash and one nice s&h green stamps which went at the low end of its range for under $2500. good luck
>>>at 2-3k you're going to struggle. You might, might be able to get a Ladies and Gentlemen plate if you're lucky.<<<
You would be surprised. Here are a few (there were lots more) form the past 3 months
Andy Warhol
TitleFrom 25 Cats Name(d) Sam and One Blue Pussy
Mediumoffset lithograph w/handcoloring
Year of Work1954
SizeHeight 8.9 in.; Width 5.9 in. / Height 22.5 cm.; Width 15 cm.
Editioned.190
Cat. Rais.IV.52A, Feldman and Schellmann
Found./Pub.Seymour, prntr
Sale ofMallet Japan: Friday, September 28, 2012 [Lot 00270]
Modern and Contemporary Art
Estimate200,000 - 250,000 JPY (2,566 - 3,208 USD)
Sold For 277,800 JPY (3,565 USD) PREMIUM Currency Converter
Imo, this is arguably his best print run though the market thinks otherwise (fwiw, i've never seen any of these in a gallery under $7k and more often than not they are $15-50k) :
Andy Warhol
Title Electric Chair
Mediumcolor silkscreen
SizeHeight 90.2 in.; Width 121.9 in. / Height 229.1 cm.; Width 309.6 cm.
Edition AP XIX/L
Cat. Rais. II.76, Feldman & Schellmann
Found./Pub.Bruno Bischofberger, pub.; Silkprint Kettner, prntr
Misc. Signed, Inscribed, Stamped
Sale of Bloomsbury Auctions: Thursday, September 27, 2012 [Lot 00485]Modern & Contemporary Prints
Estimate 3,000 - 4,000 GBP (4,863 - 6,485 USD)
Sold For 2,600 GBP (4,215 USD) HAMMER
You can't get much more iconic than this:
Andy Warhol
Title Flowers (signed)
Medium prints and multiples, offset lithograph
Year of Work 1964
Printing/Casting 1964
Size Height 21.9 in.; Width 21.9 in. / Height 55.6 cm.; Width 55.6 cm.
Cat. Rais. II.6, Feldman & Schellmann
Found./Pub. Total Color, New York; Leo Castelli, New York
Misc. Signed
Sale of artnet Auctions: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 [Lot 70794]
artnet Auctions
Estimate 3,500 - 4,500 USD
Sold For 3,450 USD PREMIUM Currency Converter
Andy Warhol
Title Committee 2000
Medium screenprint
Year of Work 1982
Size Height 30.3 in.; Width 20 in. / Height 77 cm.; Width 50.7 cm.
Edition 1619/2000
Cat. Rais. II.289, Feldman & Schellmann
Found./Pub. Committee 2000, pub.; Rupert Jasen Smith, prntr
Misc. Signed
Sale of Mallet Japan: Friday, July 20, 2012 [Lot 00251]
Modern and Contemporary Art
Estimate 150,000 - 200,000 JPY (1,911 - 2,548 USD)
Sold For 231,500 JPY (2,949 USD) PREMIUM Currency Converter
My artnet search of warhol signed prints up to $5k returned over 2500 entries (all auction) and the first 100 take us back just to November of last year. Most galleries (not all) will suggest these are far more rare and valuable than thier auction prices. And if you have some retail space, who can blame someone from buying at auction and inflating by 5 or 6 fold and willing to cut price by 50% from any would be buyer? No disrespect meant to anyone, but, with rare exception, edition Warhol is far better sourced at auction on your wallet.
edit: For those curious (i'm not giong to copy them all) but a quick scan of the past 100 prints under $5k at auction include many of the above plus brillo, lots of 50s hand colored lithos, 7 or 8 different electric chairs (that would be my target in your shoes), many ladies and gentlemen, many cows, couple space fruit, couple st. apollonia, flash and one nice s&h green stamps which went at the low end of its range for under $2500. good luck
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 22:17:40 GMT 1, wow, those prices seem very low to me, but I know you do your research well! brings my hoops high to have a real warhol one day
wow, those prices seem very low to me, but I know you do your research well! brings my hoops high to have a real warhol one day
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Pattycakes on Oct 12, 2012 0:55:39 GMT 1, Lee you know your stuff, but also you know it's all about condition. The Chair at BA was an absolute ruin hence the Β£. Kitty's yes they are fine but few people see 50's Warhol and think Warhol. The guy on here obviously want's something that looks like a Warhol, of rhis budget he'll struggle to find anything that's really worth the dosh. However, if he looks to other artist's he will find something worthwhile and interesting for the money.
Lee you know your stuff, but also you know it's all about condition. The Chair at BA was an absolute ruin hence the Β£. Kitty's yes they are fine but few people see 50's Warhol and think Warhol. The guy on here obviously want's something that looks like a Warhol, of rhis budget he'll struggle to find anything that's really worth the dosh. However, if he looks to other artist's he will find something worthwhile and interesting for the money.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on Oct 12, 2012 3:39:19 GMT 1, >>>The Chair at BA was an absolute ruin hence the Β£.<<<
Fair point and I'm definitely not looking at condition on all of these BUT there were 8 different electric chairs in that first 100 search of warhol sub $5k. To me that is one of his finest images but it can be a very tough sell for obvious reasons. The orange brush one notwithstanding which commands multiples of the rest of the edition of 10. I believe there were 5 different colors between the 8 chairs auctioned over the past year below $5k.
Condition plays as big a role as image but electric chairs (apart from orange brush or whatever it's properly called) have traded at or below $5k at auction for as long as Ive been watching. As far as I'm concerned, you pay big money for marilyn, mao, tomato soup, jagger or self portraits but just about everything else is fair game at prices that look cheap by comparison simply because of volume. I think there is a very common misconception that because of the numbers his paintings command that his prints are out of reach and that is just not true for 95%+ of the signed prints he released.
>>>The Chair at BA was an absolute ruin hence the Β£.<<<
Fair point and I'm definitely not looking at condition on all of these BUT there were 8 different electric chairs in that first 100 search of warhol sub $5k. To me that is one of his finest images but it can be a very tough sell for obvious reasons. The orange brush one notwithstanding which commands multiples of the rest of the edition of 10. I believe there were 5 different colors between the 8 chairs auctioned over the past year below $5k.
Condition plays as big a role as image but electric chairs (apart from orange brush or whatever it's properly called) have traded at or below $5k at auction for as long as Ive been watching. As far as I'm concerned, you pay big money for marilyn, mao, tomato soup, jagger or self portraits but just about everything else is fair game at prices that look cheap by comparison simply because of volume. I think there is a very common misconception that because of the numbers his paintings command that his prints are out of reach and that is just not true for 95%+ of the signed prints he released.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Deleted on Oct 12, 2012 7:10:47 GMT 1, I agree with Printguru, if i were looking for what i thought was a typical Warhol to throw on the wall i would be looking for marilyn, mao, tomato soup, jagger or self portrait.
I agree with Printguru, if i were looking for what i thought was a typical Warhol to throw on the wall i would be looking for marilyn, mao, tomato soup, jagger or self portrait.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on Oct 12, 2012 16:32:02 GMT 1, >>>if i were looking for what i thought was a typical Warhol to throw on the wall i would be looking for marilyn, mao, tomato soup, jagger or self portrait.<<<
Then you'll spend $20k-250k to get that look which is fine. Personally, I'd prefer to allocate that money towards hand drawn commercial shoes or portraits from the 50s but that's just my preference. As far as prints, I think you would have just as iconic of a Warhol on the wall spending $3-8k and choosing any of the flowers, Jackie, 9 of the 10 electric charis or every other soup but Tomato.
If i were spending/investing money (and I'm not) I'd target the unique prints on HMP paper like electric chairs ~$15k, Mao ~$30k or Marilyn Reversal ~$100k. Those are the exact same screens used on their canvas counterparts. The market clearly doesn't value them as I think it should but I don't make the rules. Still, unique mao for one half/one third of the edition 2000 mao minus a warhol signature but you still get V. Freemont on the reverse if that floats your boat. I do expect to see a lot of those unique HMP prints in the multi year Christie's partnership exhausting the remaining Foundation work. Anyway, I've said my peace, good luck.
>>>if i were looking for what i thought was a typical Warhol to throw on the wall i would be looking for marilyn, mao, tomato soup, jagger or self portrait.<<<
Then you'll spend $20k-250k to get that look which is fine. Personally, I'd prefer to allocate that money towards hand drawn commercial shoes or portraits from the 50s but that's just my preference. As far as prints, I think you would have just as iconic of a Warhol on the wall spending $3-8k and choosing any of the flowers, Jackie, 9 of the 10 electric charis or every other soup but Tomato.
If i were spending/investing money (and I'm not) I'd target the unique prints on HMP paper like electric chairs ~$15k, Mao ~$30k or Marilyn Reversal ~$100k. Those are the exact same screens used on their canvas counterparts. The market clearly doesn't value them as I think it should but I don't make the rules. Still, unique mao for one half/one third of the edition 2000 mao minus a warhol signature but you still get V. Freemont on the reverse if that floats your boat. I do expect to see a lot of those unique HMP prints in the multi year Christie's partnership exhausting the remaining Foundation work. Anyway, I've said my peace, good luck.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by howlinhooker on Oct 12, 2012 16:38:40 GMT 1, lee whats a rough guide price for a jagger then ? cheers hh
lee whats a rough guide price for a jagger then ? cheers hh
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on Oct 12, 2012 16:47:13 GMT 1, lee whats a rough guide price for a jagger then ? cheers hh
i saw one on the secondary market asking $30k about a month ago with both Warhol and Mick's signatures on the front. Figure $25k for that one. I'm looking at artnet and the past 20 sold at auction go back to April of this year with with a high of $55k and a low of $22k with 3 buy ins. Average looks to be the mid 20s US. There is one for sale at Christie's (signed by both Mick and Andy) on the 31st of this month with a $20-30k range. Anyway, if that was the image one wanted, I'd say you did just fine if you got it at $25k.
lee whats a rough guide price for a jagger then ? cheers hh i saw one on the secondary market asking $30k about a month ago with both Warhol and Mick's signatures on the front. Figure $25k for that one. I'm looking at artnet and the past 20 sold at auction go back to April of this year with with a high of $55k and a low of $22k with 3 buy ins. Average looks to be the mid 20s US. There is one for sale at Christie's (signed by both Mick and Andy) on the 31st of this month with a $20-30k range. Anyway, if that was the image one wanted, I'd say you did just fine if you got it at $25k. |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by hnkpnk on Oct 12, 2012 16:51:22 GMT 1, I'm not in the market for a Warhol, but as always your knowledge and will to share it amazes me, Lee3. You deserve a lot more respect than what is visible in the sidebar.
I'm not in the market for a Warhol, but as always your knowledge and will to share it amazes me, Lee3. You deserve a lot more respect than what is visible in the sidebar.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on Oct 12, 2012 17:00:05 GMT 1, thanks hank; appreciate that though i pay no attention to that metric with anyone.
thanks hank; appreciate that though i pay no attention to that metric with anyone.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by howlinhooker on Oct 12, 2012 17:03:19 GMT 1, thanks for the info lee3
thanks for the info lee3
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Oct 12, 2012 17:52:33 GMT 1, As AW Mao is mentioned a couple of times this is my signed Castellii of 250. Before get any comments A/c switched off and we have moved since this pic
Andy Warhol Mao & Banksy Flying Copper by John Hassett, on Flickr
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by howlinhooker on Oct 12, 2012 17:58:52 GMT 1, nice pear or pair !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nice pear or pair !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Coach on Oct 12, 2012 20:12:43 GMT 1, Shit the bed!
Is this some sort of testosterone fuelled competition?!
First origo's Morgan.
Then the rude copper.
Then harveyn's trilogy
And now this gorgeous Warhol.
Anyone wanna see a pic of my death tarot card?
Only kiddin chaps. All wonderful pieces. Loving the Mao johnny.
Real quality there, that most of us can only dream of.
The piece it's next to aint to tardy either!
Shit the bed!
Is this some sort of testosterone fuelled competition?!
First origo's Morgan.
Then the rude copper.
Then harveyn's trilogy
And now this gorgeous Warhol.
Anyone wanna see a pic of my death tarot card?
Only kiddin chaps. All wonderful pieces. Loving the Mao johnny.
Real quality there, that most of us can only dream of.
The piece it's next to aint to tardy either!
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by jaimesl on Oct 15, 2012 17:38:39 GMT 1, Hi All,
I've got the following framed Sunday B Marilyn for sale.
It's in MINT condition, and framed by Pauli Frames.
Let me know if you're interested?
Cheers,
Jaimes
Hi All, I've got the following framed Sunday B Marilyn for sale. It's in MINT condition, and framed by Pauli Frames. Let me know if you're interested? Cheers, Jaimes |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Shoot Again on Oct 15, 2012 19:34:14 GMT 1, How much ?
How much ?
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Feral Things on Oct 29, 2012 22:18:03 GMT 1, There's some lovely pieces in there and I know Warhol is one of the seminal artists of the twentieth century... but those drawings of dogs are just hilariously bad. Or perhaps that it just me?
There's some lovely pieces in there and I know Warhol is one of the seminal artists of the twentieth century... but those drawings of dogs are just hilariously bad. Or perhaps that it just me?
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Oct 29, 2012 22:53:04 GMT 1, No def mate there is some exspensive crap definitely
No def mate there is some exspensive crap definitely
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Shoot Again on Oct 29, 2012 23:05:57 GMT 1, One print there that my wife has always wanted though, might have a cheeky go at it ;-)
One print there that my wife has always wanted though, might have a cheeky go at it ;-)
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Oct 30, 2012 6:20:31 GMT 1, Shootagain. Probably gonna be at that sale with a bit of luck so will give the piece a view for you a day or two before if it helps
Shootagain. Probably gonna be at that sale with a bit of luck so will give the piece a view for you a day or two before if it helps
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Shoot Again on Oct 30, 2012 9:55:12 GMT 1, Shootagain. Probably gonna be at that sale with a bit of luck so will give the piece a view for you a day or two before if it helps
Thanks for offering Johnny, +1 from me ... I've asked for a condition report so will let you know if I can use your help... appreciate it ;-)
Shootagain. Probably gonna be at that sale with a bit of luck so will give the piece a view for you a day or two before if it helps Thanks for offering Johnny, +1 from me ... I've asked for a condition report so will let you know if I can use your help... appreciate it ;-) |
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Warhol taking the piss... literally. ;D |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Oct 30, 2012 13:31:01 GMT 1, Shootagain. Probably gonna be at that sale with a bit of luck so will give the piece a view for you a day or two before if it helps Thanks for offering Johnny, +1 from me ... I've asked for a condition report so will let you know if I can use your help... appreciate it ;-)
No worries at all mate as pretty much def will be there and will go to view prior to sale
Shootagain. Probably gonna be at that sale with a bit of luck so will give the piece a view for you a day or two before if it helps Thanks for offering Johnny, +1 from me ... I've asked for a condition report so will let you know if I can use your help... appreciate it ;-) No worries at all mate as pretty much def will be there and will go to view prior to sale |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by kfroms on Oct 30, 2012 13:45:43 GMT 1, I was really looking forward to that sale but boy that's a proper collection of 'leftovers'
Anyway, two of the pieces I am after are in the sale so will try my luck.
I was really looking forward to that sale but boy that's a proper collection of 'leftovers'
Anyway, two of the pieces I am after are in the sale so will try my luck.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by plush on Oct 30, 2012 17:44:15 GMT 1, Some of this is really nice. If only the funds were there.
Some of this is really nice. If only the funds were there.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by anodyne13 on Oct 30, 2012 21:20:24 GMT 1, I was looking at several prints that are test pressings or the such, but many of them are not signed and only have estate/foundation stamps, so be carefully of that if a signature matters to you.
I was looking at several prints that are test pressings or the such, but many of them are not signed and only have estate/foundation stamps, so be carefully of that if a signature matters to you.
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