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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Chrisp on Jul 5, 2014 7:39:53 GMT 1, Article in the I paper this morning regarding this.
Article in the I paper this morning regarding this.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Jul 5, 2014 10:19:59 GMT 1, Terrible shame. It's so easy to read and think (no offense intended) how daft...but shows how easy it is to be swindled.
Must say that's why I hate ebay, and the likes of WCP and all these fakes and forgeries really do contribute to these problems. Again warning people about sources and framed Banksy's at very good prices. Also hope this highlights the some of the issues with WCP and them promoting on here.
Walton Fine Arts figures as well.
Good luck and hope you get your money back PE. This should be a lesson to us all on being careful where we source pieces as I would suspect PE has a lot more buying experience than most of us.
Also must commend you on going public with this PE rather than trying to pass them on which happens so often.
Terrible shame. It's so easy to read and think (no offense intended) how daft...but shows how easy it is to be swindled.
Must say that's why I hate ebay, and the likes of WCP and all these fakes and forgeries really do contribute to these problems. Again warning people about sources and framed Banksy's at very good prices. Also hope this highlights the some of the issues with WCP and them promoting on here.
Walton Fine Arts figures as well.
Good luck and hope you get your money back PE. This should be a lesson to us all on being careful where we source pieces as I would suspect PE has a lot more buying experience than most of us.
Also must commend you on going public with this PE rather than trying to pass them on which happens so often.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 11:05:29 GMT 1, better to buy genuine antique oils on ebay by unknown artists or unsigned than buy art by big names on ebay.
better to buy genuine antique oils on ebay by unknown artists or unsigned than buy art by big names on ebay.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Quinnster on Jul 6, 2014 9:23:35 GMT 1,
Am I right in thinking you own a vast Bambi collection?
I did think you were WFA and carpet emporium..
Am I right in thinking you own a vast Bambi collection? I did think you were WFA and carpet emporium..
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Chrisp on Jul 6, 2014 10:22:17 GMT 1, Am I right in thinking you own a vast Bambi collection? I did think you were WFA and carpet emporium..
Am I right in thinking you own a vast Bambi collection? I did think you were WFA and carpet emporium..
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 22:15:01 GMT 1, I need some cash to spend at the GP show next week, so I'm looking to sell this Warhol piece. I have it listed on fleabay for $1K, which is still less than I paid after framing costs. Willing to sell it to my friends on the forum at a big loss, for $500, plus shipping. I can also meet in NYC next weekend. I'm hoping for cash, but maybe you had a trade I just can't resist?
From the original listing:
Signed copy of American Photographer magazine, professionally framed and matted with 2 Tacoma Flower prints. The signature has been authenticated twice and comes with COA's from both RRAuctions and GAI (it's also listed in both of their databases) . No provenance for the prints, but they look amazing!
I need some cash to spend at the GP show next week, so I'm looking to sell this Warhol piece. I have it listed on fleabay for $1K, which is still less than I paid after framing costs. Willing to sell it to my friends on the forum at a big loss, for $500, plus shipping. I can also meet in NYC next weekend. I'm hoping for cash, but maybe you had a trade I just can't resist? From the original listing: Signed copy of American Photographer magazine, professionally framed and matted with 2 Tacoma Flower prints. The signature has been authenticated twice and comes with COA's from both RRAuctions and GAI (it's also listed in both of their databases) . No provenance for the prints, but they look amazing!
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by DREAMERS on Jul 7, 2014 23:48:10 GMT 1, Nice piece.
Nice piece.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 11:59:11 GMT 1, Thanks! Hoping someone else thinks so too
Thanks! Hoping someone else thinks so too
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Unica on Aug 15, 2014 22:25:18 GMT 1, I've been reading many posts regarding the prices of Banksy prints and originals these days.
I'm wondering how much an unsigned Warhol print in an edition of 250-500 would be, also how about a signed Warhol print. Are Warhol prints far more expensive or cheaper than buying Banksy. I think I would be correct in thinking that Warhol churned out far more prints and canvases than Banksy has. Fortunately Banksy is still with us and who knows if he will produce more prints or if thats it. Anybody know how many prints Warhol produced and how many Banksy has at this point.
I've been reading many posts regarding the prices of Banksy prints and originals these days.
I'm wondering how much an unsigned Warhol print in an edition of 250-500 would be, also how about a signed Warhol print. Are Warhol prints far more expensive or cheaper than buying Banksy. I think I would be correct in thinking that Warhol churned out far more prints and canvases than Banksy has. Fortunately Banksy is still with us and who knows if he will produce more prints or if thats it. Anybody know how many prints Warhol produced and how many Banksy has at this point.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Aug 15, 2014 23:46:49 GMT 1, Not sure on the numbers of editions etc but Warhol wins hands down on the amount of different prints.
Warhol print prices have a huge variation depending on the piece. I have a signed Mao Warhol print that was quite pricey for me for a print and high end or over Banksy prices at the time but I also have a lovely signed flowers (not the famous flowers piece) that was a real bargain for a signed Warhol and not expensive at all cheaper than or similar to an unsigned Banksy these days.
So think it's quite hard to make direct comparisons with each other but if pushed I would say Banksy is over priced in comparison to Warhol and that's not saying Warhols are under priced.
Note this is an opinion rather than implying fact!!
Not sure on the numbers of editions etc but Warhol wins hands down on the amount of different prints.
Warhol print prices have a huge variation depending on the piece. I have a signed Mao Warhol print that was quite pricey for me for a print and high end or over Banksy prices at the time but I also have a lovely signed flowers (not the famous flowers piece) that was a real bargain for a signed Warhol and not expensive at all cheaper than or similar to an unsigned Banksy these days.
So think it's quite hard to make direct comparisons with each other but if pushed I would say Banksy is over priced in comparison to Warhol and that's not saying Warhols are under priced.
Note this is an opinion rather than implying fact!!
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 23:56:55 GMT 1, Jonny do you have the Castelli flowers? I'm quite find of that piece
Jonny do you have the Castelli flowers? I'm quite find of that piece
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johnnyh
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Aug 16, 2014 0:11:58 GMT 1, Jonny do you have the Castelli flowers? I'm quite find of that piece No no fella wish I had. No mine is from the flowers something or others not the famous flowers Castellini thing
this is the flowers piece I have. As say not expensive at all sorry this only pic I have of it and away at the mo.
Jonny do you have the Castelli flowers? I'm quite find of that piece No no fella wish I had. No mine is from the flowers something or others not the famous flowers Castellini thing this is the flowers piece I have. As say not expensive at all sorry this only pic I have of it and away at the mo.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 0:13:28 GMT 1, Haha yes I know them well. Many of those were finished with watercolor
Haha yes I know them well. Many of those were finished with watercolor
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 0:13:59 GMT 1, The Warhol museum or foundation could tell you. www.warhol.org/
There isn't a Banksy museum yet so thats one up to Warhol.
artprice.com is a good place to see all the sold at auction art by an artist.
Price levels for Andy WARHOL
Auction record(s) (21286) β¦ Ceramic (145) β¦ Drawing-Watercolor (1717) β¦ Furniture (4) β¦ Objects (31) β¦ Painting (3649) β¦ Photography (741) β¦ Print-Multiple (14710) β¦ Sculpture-Volume (246) β¦ Tapestry (43)
Price levels for BANKSY
Auction record(s) (895) β¦ Drawing-Watercolor (3) β¦ Painting (289) β¦ Photography (2) β¦ Print-Multiple (574) β¦ Sculpture-Volume (27)
The Warhol museum or foundation could tell you. www.warhol.org/
There isn't a Banksy museum yet so thats one up to Warhol.
artprice.com is a good place to see all the sold at auction art by an artist.
Price levels for Andy WARHOL
Auction record(s) (21286) β¦ Ceramic (145) β¦ Drawing-Watercolor (1717) β¦ Furniture (4) β¦ Objects (31) β¦ Painting (3649) β¦ Photography (741) β¦ Print-Multiple (14710) β¦ Sculpture-Volume (246) β¦ Tapestry (43)
Price levels for BANKSY
Auction record(s) (895) β¦ Drawing-Watercolor (3) β¦ Painting (289) β¦ Photography (2) β¦ Print-Multiple (574) β¦ Sculpture-Volume (27)
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johnnyh
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Aug 16, 2014 0:18:10 GMT 1, Haha yes I know them well. Many of those were finished with watercolor Yep it's one of those with the water colour. Very simple
Haha yes I know them well. Many of those were finished with watercolor Yep it's one of those with the water colour. Very simple
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 5:14:37 GMT 1, I only got to page 23 of this catalogue (less than halfway through, only cataloguing 'iconic' prints), and I'm already at 25,142 signed Warhol prints.
Banksy has around 8,000 signed prints.
www.coskunfineart.com/Andy-Warhol-Screenprints.pdf
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Aug 16, 2014 6:10:42 GMT 1, Cheers that's actually a really nice concise breakdown of the major prints.
Cheers that's actually a really nice concise breakdown of the major prints.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by South Bound on Aug 16, 2014 16:04:05 GMT 1, Heard a very interesting interview with a major art dealer... Will post link next time I am at my computer that really does a nice job at breaking down why Warhol is so $ and sought after. Long story made very short is that he was a phenomenal businessman and is the father of the Hand Embellished print... Not to mention the influence he has had on Pop / Modern / Urban art.
Without him would we even know who Basquiat or Haring are? Their influence bleeds down into a large portion of what we now call street art.
Heard a very interesting interview with a major art dealer... Will post link next time I am at my computer that really does a nice job at breaking down why Warhol is so $ and sought after. Long story made very short is that he was a phenomenal businessman and is the father of the Hand Embellished print... Not to mention the influence he has had on Pop / Modern / Urban art.
Without him would we even know who Basquiat or Haring are? Their influence bleeds down into a large portion of what we now call street art.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Aug 16, 2014 16:48:31 GMT 1, Heard a very interesting interview with a major art dealer... Will post link next time I am at my computer that really does a nice job at breaking down why Warhol is so $ and sought after. Long story made very short is that he was a phenomenal businessman and is the father of the Hand Embellished print... Not to mention the influence he has had on Pop / Modern / Urban art. Without him would we even know who Basquiat or Haring are? Their influence bleeds down into a large portion of what we now call street art.
Would like to see that. He really was something else. His vision of art and consumerism is phenomenal for the time a true visionary regardless of what people think his influence on the art world and music is amazing
Heard a very interesting interview with a major art dealer... Will post link next time I am at my computer that really does a nice job at breaking down why Warhol is so $ and sought after. Long story made very short is that he was a phenomenal businessman and is the father of the Hand Embellished print... Not to mention the influence he has had on Pop / Modern / Urban art. Without him would we even know who Basquiat or Haring are? Their influence bleeds down into a large portion of what we now call street art. Would like to see that. He really was something else. His vision of art and consumerism is phenomenal for the time a true visionary regardless of what people think his influence on the art world and music is amazing
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by natstan on Aug 16, 2014 16:53:48 GMT 1, "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art." Few artists know that rule...
"Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art." Few artists know that rule...
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by DrWhite on Aug 16, 2014 17:00:49 GMT 1, I love Warhols prints, these were some of my favourite.
I love Warhols prints, these were some of my favourite.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by South Bound on Aug 16, 2014 17:01:13 GMT 1, To get a little more detailed, he spoke about how Warhol realized he could take his test prints which he was doing work on by hand which most artist just destroyed and release them as unique prints at incredibly jacked up prices. This allowed him to sell the plain multiple prints at a more accessible price which really helped promote his work and made collectors want the Unique version rather then the large edition that the masses had... Which in turn jacked the prices up further.
To get a little more detailed, he spoke about how Warhol realized he could take his test prints which he was doing work on by hand which most artist just destroyed and release them as unique prints at incredibly jacked up prices. This allowed him to sell the plain multiple prints at a more accessible price which really helped promote his work and made collectors want the Unique version rather then the large edition that the masses had... Which in turn jacked the prices up further.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by DrWhite on Aug 16, 2014 17:05:05 GMT 1, To get a little more detailed, he spoke about how Warhol realized he could take his test prints which he was doing work on by hand which most artist just destroyed and release them as unique prints at incredibly jacked up prices. This allowed him to sell the plain multiple prints at a more accessible price which really helped promote his work and made collectors want the Unique version rather then the large edition that the masses had... Which in turn jacked the prices up further.
Like this Trial Proof John Wayne ?
To get a little more detailed, he spoke about how Warhol realized he could take his test prints which he was doing work on by hand which most artist just destroyed and release them as unique prints at incredibly jacked up prices. This allowed him to sell the plain multiple prints at a more accessible price which really helped promote his work and made collectors want the Unique version rather then the large edition that the masses had... Which in turn jacked the prices up further. Like this Trial Proof John Wayne ?
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by South Bound on Aug 16, 2014 17:07:09 GMT 1, He also spoke about his first Warhol, which I love.
He lived in a run down basement apartment, had no car, ate Romaine noodles every meal, had crappy clothes. His friends had nice pads, porsches, and dressed to the nines... But he had a Warhol and he felt f**king cooler than all of them combined.
He also spoke about his first Warhol, which I love.
He lived in a run down basement apartment, had no car, ate Romaine noodles every meal, had crappy clothes. His friends had nice pads, porsches, and dressed to the nines... But he had a Warhol and he felt f**king cooler than all of them combined.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by DrWhite on Aug 16, 2014 17:08:59 GMT 1, The lenins with my William Scott I'm selling in the FS section in the background
The lenins with my William Scott I'm selling in the FS section in the background
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by South Bound on Aug 16, 2014 17:09:11 GMT 1, To get a little more detailed, he spoke about how Warhol realized he could take his test prints which he was doing work on by hand which most artist just destroyed and release them as unique prints at incredibly jacked up prices. This allowed him to sell the plain multiple prints at a more accessible price which really helped promote his work and made collectors want the Unique version rather then the large edition that the masses had... Which in turn jacked the prices up further. Like this Trial Proof John Wayne ?
Nice!! I assume you are correct.
To get a little more detailed, he spoke about how Warhol realized he could take his test prints which he was doing work on by hand which most artist just destroyed and release them as unique prints at incredibly jacked up prices. This allowed him to sell the plain multiple prints at a more accessible price which really helped promote his work and made collectors want the Unique version rather then the large edition that the masses had... Which in turn jacked the prices up further. Like this Trial Proof John Wayne ? Nice!! I assume you are correct.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by South Bound on Aug 16, 2014 17:14:30 GMT 1, The lenins with my William Scott I'm selling in the FS section in the background
Not that I can afford, but cannot find post. Love the Lenin.
The lenins with my William Scott I'm selling in the FS section in the background Not that I can afford, but cannot find post. Love the Lenin.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by DrWhite on Aug 16, 2014 17:19:55 GMT 1, Ingrid Bergman was a beauty
Ingrid Bergman was a beauty
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johnnyh
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by johnnyh on Aug 16, 2014 17:21:48 GMT 1, The lenins with my William Scott I'm selling in the FS section in the background
Nice what edition are those Lenins? Lovely pieces
The lenins with my William Scott I'm selling in the FS section in the background Nice what edition are those Lenins? Lovely pieces
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by DrWhite on Aug 16, 2014 17:22:31 GMT 1, Trial proof edition numbers
Trial proof edition numbers
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