How about those after Warhol withdrawal from Sunday B Morning, how can we validate the authenticity or the value of it?

Why don't you just google image, print at home and frame whatever image your wild heart desires, save the $150. Unless you have 6 figures to invest in a warhol from Martin Lawrence Gallery It just to big of a gamble as far as authenticity goes (imo of course) to buy anything off ebay.

Of course, as they say "if its too good to be true..." 

I consider a plate signed print simply to be an unsigned print.
This doesn’t mean it’s worthless though. There are plenty of unsigned prints that have a value.
I have an original Miro print which is plate signed. I’d love one that had been signed by the artist. Whilst not as valuable as a signed one, my print is not worthless. Moreover, it’s beautiful and I’ve enjoyed looking at it for decades.

Totally agree coach but I think we must take into consideration the will of the artist, what is his approach. I imagine that if Warhol took matters out of Sunday B Morning, he had his reasons for doing so. He did everything during his lifetime to produce in bulk but as he wanted, using his circuits.
We see a little the same thing with current artists ... WCP for Banksy or lastly the poster published by the Bristol museum (angel with the pot of paint).
Dali signed blank boards and let his collaborators work even years after his death.
if the impression is unsigned but desired by the artist, it will have a greater value than if it has not been validated, even signed in the plate.

My apologies, I was replying only to the specific question, namely as a general rule of thumb are prints signed in the plate worthless.

When it comes to Warhol, Galleries are are safest route to acquire an authentic Warhol hand signed, numbered silkscreen as shown in the Catalogue Rasionne by Feldman.

Entry Level Warhols start at approximately $4500 for a UN Stamp, $7,000 for a Committee 2000 or Watercolor Paint Kit, but from there prices raise steadily. A Warhol Mickey sold this year for $150,000 all in.

I have been personally Buying, Selling and Trading Warhol for the last 10 years and we maintain about 80 - 100 Warhol's within our Gallery Collection at all times. It is a market that is still continuing to rise and that you can see still major increases in values of curtain works, as it seems every collector wants a Warhol in their collection, the body of available works in excellent condition are becoming ever more elusive.

For Example, When I started working in the industry a Unsigned Sitting Bull could be acquired easily for under $10,000 which now is trading close to or over $30,000. In 2011, I sold the II.360A Turtle for $16,500 which sold All-IN at Sotheby's in 2017 for $62,500. Majority of the works that feature timeless icons have seen similar price increases. That being said, when buying a Warhol, stick to timeless icons.

Mildred Scheel is a great examples of icons of their time that few today even know of their influences and their print market shows that, selling for a high in 2008 at over $18,000 and in today's market can barely achieve $4000 at the show.

Since the Warhol Authentication board no longer Authenticates, the more provenance the better, photos hung over period of time, original purchase receipt, and gallery stickers on the verso of the framed work, especially a Martin Lawrence Gallery Sticker on the Verso. Martin Lawrence Stickers have an Tractable Inventory Number, and they list additional information as in the Framing and the type of conservation materials used to frame the work.

Always ask if a work has had any restoration prior to purchasing, it is something that is typically not disclosed unless asked regarding directly. Acid Free Conservation framing was very expensive at the time, and many works that where framed where badly damaged. Art Print restoration has become big business, it's one thing for a work to be dipped to have the acid stains removed as nothing is being changed from the original print. Re-screening of works in very poor condition is another issue entirely. The industry has not established how much re-screening on a work still designates the work as a attributed to the Artist. With Warhol its a tougher debate as Warhol prints where pulled by other Master Printers at the time. So if a master Restorer is doing the work, does that make all well? As long as the Signature or edition number is un-compromised.

Your Thoughts?

Sunday B Morning has been re-printing the works originals published by them in the 1960's in the true Warholian spirit and wishes of the artist. We have seen many Sunday B Mornings Printed during the artists life that Warhol Signed then, wrote "Not Me" Under the signature. Fun, affordable, time period works.

If you want an original print, just make sure you have provenance dating back to when they were published.

Galleries supplying their own COAs mean jack. Seen plenty, and decided it wasnt worth the risk due to so many fakes.

Good read


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always enjoy Brushstrokes 75 posts ... but as a word of caution, there are a lot of auctions and auction sites, where 'after' xxx artist is used where a piece is in the likeness of xxx artist ... but has nothing to do with that artist ...

nothing beats the original

These new Sunday B are open editions and I believe ship from Spain. They are for decorative purposes. When they hit auction they get blown out for a fraction of purchase price. So they are not for people that collect art as an investment. They look lovely framed, but have little residual.

I picked up a Sunday B. Morning print back in 2004 (for £200 from Belgium, I think) as the first 'proper' piece of art i ever purchased. It sent me on a journey that i'm still on and sparked my interest in buying limited edition prints from artists I love. 

I know they aren't for everyone, but I didn't have the knowledge that I have today and if it weren't for this print, I may not have had the passion I have now for prints.

(I still think it looks great framed).