romanywg
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by romanywg on Apr 20, 2008 12:47:34 GMT 1, Every single 'Life's too short' for sale on ebay is using a photo of mine that not one person has been given permission to use. What can I do about this, if anything? The Gallery Filthymodernart is using many of my photos and it's starting to piss me off! Any advise would be appreciated.
Every single 'Life's too short' for sale on ebay is using a photo of mine that not one person has been given permission to use. What can I do about this, if anything? The Gallery Filthymodernart is using many of my photos and it's starting to piss me off! Any advise would be appreciated.
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by bobbyt23 on Apr 20, 2008 12:49:33 GMT 1, I'm not surprised mate. Like a few others have said I think if you go on each listing there is a report/complain link you can click and report it. Then the listing will be cancelled I think.
I'm not surprised mate. Like a few others have said I think if you go on each listing there is a report/complain link you can click and report it. Then the listing will be cancelled I think.
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cakeboy
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by cakeboy on Apr 20, 2008 12:49:43 GMT 1, you can fill an online form out with e bay and they will remove all of the adds ..they have breached copyrite law .. you will have to provide proof ..
you can fill an online form out with e bay and they will remove all of the adds ..they have breached copyrite law .. you will have to provide proof ..
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chablis
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by chablis on Apr 20, 2008 12:52:05 GMT 1, It would be funny if each and every one of those flipping flippers had to repost...
Go for it Romanywg
It would be funny if each and every one of those flipping flippers had to repost...
Go for it Romanywg
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GD303uk
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by GD303uk on Apr 20, 2008 12:52:11 GMT 1, complain to ebay, and water mark your pics in the future, put you email or name across them , ebay should remove the auctions that use you pics without you permission.
complain to ebay, and water mark your pics in the future, put you email or name across them , ebay should remove the auctions that use you pics without you permission.
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curiousgeorge
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by curiousgeorge on Apr 20, 2008 12:55:22 GMT 1, Agreed report them, i counted 13 (including a completed sale) and also 8 on FMA. 30% ish thus far being flipped. I reckon the same amount also yet to be listed or flipped!
Agreed report them, i counted 13 (including a completed sale) and also 8 on FMA. 30% ish thus far being flipped. I reckon the same amount also yet to be listed or flipped!
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by giiiant on Apr 20, 2008 12:57:53 GMT 1, Agreed report them, i counted 13 (including a completed sale) and also 8 on FMA. 30% ish thus far being flipped. I reckon the same amount also yet to be listed or flipped!
Yup... It's painful to watch.
Agreed report them, i counted 13 (including a completed sale) and also 8 on FMA. 30% ish thus far being flipped. I reckon the same amount also yet to be listed or flipped! Yup... It's painful to watch.
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killerkellah
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by killerkellah on Apr 20, 2008 13:16:31 GMT 1, as stated above, the best thing to do is watermark all your future pictures mate. people will still probably crop them and use them, but you'll cut out some of the thieving.
as stated above, the best thing to do is watermark all your future pictures mate. people will still probably crop them and use them, but you'll cut out some of the thieving.
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romanywg
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by romanywg on Apr 20, 2008 13:27:57 GMT 1, The thing is the photo that they've stolen isn't even of the print it is of a canvas and the print is quite different. Also Fithymodernthieves are selling a NW canvas and the photo of mine they are using isn't of the finished canvas but work in progress! So surely this is false advertising?
The thing is the photo that they've stolen isn't even of the print it is of a canvas and the print is quite different. Also Fithymodernthieves are selling a NW canvas and the photo of mine they are using isn't of the finished canvas but work in progress! So surely this is false advertising?
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by manchestermike on Apr 20, 2008 13:29:41 GMT 1, The thing is the photo that they've stolen isn't even of the print it is of a canvas and the print is quite different. Also Fithymodernthieves are selling a NW canvas and the photo of mine they are using isn't of the finished canvas but work in progress! So surely this is false advertising?
I should imagine so. Point it out to ebay when you complain. I would also email FMA asking them to immediately remove the stolen pictures or you will take it further.
The thing is the photo that they've stolen isn't even of the print it is of a canvas and the print is quite different. Also Fithymodernthieves are selling a NW canvas and the photo of mine they are using isn't of the finished canvas but work in progress! So surely this is false advertising? I should imagine so. Point it out to ebay when you complain. I would also email FMA asking them to immediately remove the stolen pictures or you will take it further.
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dmandpenfold
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by dmandpenfold on Apr 20, 2008 13:30:02 GMT 1, another reason for ebay to close the auction romanywg, it's poor form.
another reason for ebay to close the auction romanywg, it's poor form.
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killerkellah
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by killerkellah on Apr 20, 2008 13:32:54 GMT 1, The thing is the photo that they've stolen isn't even of the print it is of a canvas and the print is quite different. Also Fithymodernthieves are selling a NW canvas and the photo of mine they are using isn't of the finished canvas but work in progress! So surely this is false advertising?
Im sure some polite emails would stop the whole thing.
The thing is the photo that they've stolen isn't even of the print it is of a canvas and the print is quite different. Also Fithymodernthieves are selling a NW canvas and the photo of mine they are using isn't of the finished canvas but work in progress! So surely this is false advertising? Im sure some polite emails would stop the whole thing.
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romanywg
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by romanywg on Apr 20, 2008 14:01:59 GMT 1, ALL reported. Thanks for the advice.
ALL reported. Thanks for the advice.
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Bram
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by Bram on Apr 20, 2008 14:22:12 GMT 1, Can't understand this as the flippers have the print in hand so why not just take it out of the tube and take a picture. Lazy Bstds.
Can't understand this as the flippers have the print in hand so why not just take it out of the tube and take a picture. Lazy Bstds.
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romanywg
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by romanywg on Apr 20, 2008 14:30:46 GMT 1, They don't have them in hand yet. They weren't given out at the show.
They don't have them in hand yet. They weren't given out at the show.
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Prescription Art
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by Prescription Art on Apr 20, 2008 15:19:47 GMT 1, The problem with reporting them is that they'll get back their listing fees, which they'd previously have had to stump up (since no-one is going to pay those prices)
The problem with reporting them is that they'll get back their listing fees, which they'd previously have had to stump up (since no-one is going to pay those prices)
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by snakes on Apr 20, 2008 15:23:02 GMT 1, ..on another note you are pretty handy with the camera it has to be said romanywg
..on another note you are pretty handy with the camera it has to be said romanywg
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romanywg
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by romanywg on Apr 20, 2008 16:04:56 GMT 1, I don't mind people using my photos, it's just that you are meant to ask first.
I don't mind people using my photos, it's just that you are meant to ask first.
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Art-el
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by Art-el on Apr 20, 2008 16:19:57 GMT 1, Any response from FMA?
Any response from FMA?
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romanywg
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by romanywg on Apr 20, 2008 16:21:34 GMT 1, Not yet. Probably closed for the weekend.
Not yet. Probably closed for the weekend.
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themightyreds
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by themightyreds on Apr 20, 2008 19:59:19 GMT 1, I've reported 2 people before for selling their items on ebay using my pics from this very forums gallery section... i also email them and tell them exactly what i think of them using my photos without permission.!
I've reported 2 people before for selling their items on ebay using my pics from this very forums gallery section... i also email them and tell them exactly what i think of them using my photos without permission.!
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by alsbabar on Apr 20, 2008 21:04:17 GMT 1, the problem you have also Romanywg is you have no proof to support your assertion that these photos are indeed yours. Not that I dont believe you, to the contrary, I think your photos are superb and I enjoy looking at them.
However copyright law is very complex and as such you also could be liable to infringing these laws. You took pictures of commercial images which you did not seek permission from the artist, so you are violating any copyright that Nick may have imposed on his images, also you were on private property when taking the photos, ie BRP, which you did not seek permission prior to publishing on a public domain such as flickr.
I am not an legal expert, but I have looked at copyright law and rights management in previous jobs, and as such you have to be careful with your assertions of violation
To overcome any future usage of your photos, as GDK suggested watermark them and should someone wish to use your images, they will need your permission and as such you can provide them with non watermarked images, possibly for a fee also
the problem you have also Romanywg is you have no proof to support your assertion that these photos are indeed yours. Not that I dont believe you, to the contrary, I think your photos are superb and I enjoy looking at them.
However copyright law is very complex and as such you also could be liable to infringing these laws. You took pictures of commercial images which you did not seek permission from the artist, so you are violating any copyright that Nick may have imposed on his images, also you were on private property when taking the photos, ie BRP, which you did not seek permission prior to publishing on a public domain such as flickr.
I am not an legal expert, but I have looked at copyright law and rights management in previous jobs, and as such you have to be careful with your assertions of violation
To overcome any future usage of your photos, as GDK suggested watermark them and should someone wish to use your images, they will need your permission and as such you can provide them with non watermarked images, possibly for a fee also
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by bobbyt23 on Apr 20, 2008 21:08:01 GMT 1, I think Romany probably did have permission from Nick as some are from the studio with him in. If he didn't have permission surely Nick would have said no to him taking them in the first place.
I think Romany probably did have permission from Nick as some are from the studio with him in. If he didn't have permission surely Nick would have said no to him taking them in the first place.
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by alsbabar on Apr 20, 2008 21:13:01 GMT 1, i agree bobby, the burden of proof will have to be with Romanywg, so any shouts of copyright infringement need to be supported with such statements from the artist and gallery.
I myself do not agree with others using Romanywg's images, just stating some of the arguments I had to deal with when discussing/challenging copyright law and infringement
i agree bobby, the burden of proof will have to be with Romanywg, so any shouts of copyright infringement need to be supported with such statements from the artist and gallery.
I myself do not agree with others using Romanywg's images, just stating some of the arguments I had to deal with when discussing/challenging copyright law and infringement
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romanywg
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by romanywg on Apr 20, 2008 21:15:43 GMT 1, The ones we are actually talking about were taken in Nicks studio and not at BRP. Probably not worth all the palava but would have been nice to have been asked before they use them.
The ones we are actually talking about were taken in Nicks studio and not at BRP. Probably not worth all the palava but would have been nice to have been asked before they use them.
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by alsbabar on Apr 20, 2008 21:20:54 GMT 1, hey romanywg, best to report it to ebay then, it would appear then you have good grounds to invoke copyright infringement. You could also on any completed sales, seek compensation, as your images were a critical factor in the sale of any piece by a third party without your approval.
hey romanywg, best to report it to ebay then, it would appear then you have good grounds to invoke copyright infringement. You could also on any completed sales, seek compensation, as your images were a critical factor in the sale of any piece by a third party without your approval.
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romanywg
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by romanywg on Apr 20, 2008 22:07:41 GMT 1, Just heard from filthymodernart who wrote "got the pictures from Flickr, they are in the public domain but if you'd like me to use your name I can" Public domain, he has got to be joking!
Just heard from filthymodernart who wrote "got the pictures from Flickr, they are in the public domain but if you'd like me to use your name I can" Public domain, he has got to be joking!
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by cashman on Apr 20, 2008 22:14:17 GMT 1, Just heard from filthymodernart who wrote "got the pictures from Flickr, they are in the public domain but if you'd like me to use your name I can" Public domain, he has got to be joking!
fucking bastards
Just heard from filthymodernart who wrote "got the pictures from Flickr, they are in the public domain but if you'd like me to use your name I can" Public domain, he has got to be joking! fucking bastards
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GD303uk
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by GD303uk on Apr 20, 2008 22:28:33 GMT 1, its all your fault for taking great pics
really tho it is cheaky, lazy sellers the least they could do to make a $ยฃ or 2 is take their own pics.
water mark in future , i know it spoils your pics , but at least you get recognition for the shots, and it will put the lazymofos off
its all your fault for taking great pics really tho it is cheaky, lazy sellers the least they could do to make a $ยฃ or 2 is take their own pics. water mark in future , i know it spoils your pics , but at least you get recognition for the shots, and it will put the lazymofos off
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froz
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'Life's too short' on ebay., by froz on Apr 20, 2008 22:36:28 GMT 1, Really if you dont want your prints to be spoiled...watermark somewhere thats not obvious. Put it somehwere you would only know where it is...and do not I REPEAT...DO NOT watermark on the edges...any moron could figure out how to use a photo editing program and crop the image off.
They should put up there that:
1. They do not have print in hand yet and that those are photos that give a representation of the print
2. Definitely they should have got your permission if they were stalking the forum and saw that you put it up, they should have the common courtesy to ask if it would be alright to take them.
3. Alot of times when people do this they do not have the print at all and are just trying to screw you (the buyer) over.
i agree with cashman fucking bastards!
Really if you dont want your prints to be spoiled...watermark somewhere thats not obvious. Put it somehwere you would only know where it is...and do not I REPEAT...DO NOT watermark on the edges...any moron could figure out how to use a photo editing program and crop the image off.
They should put up there that:
1. They do not have print in hand yet and that those are photos that give a representation of the print
2. Definitely they should have got your permission if they were stalking the forum and saw that you put it up, they should have the common courtesy to ask if it would be alright to take them.
3. Alot of times when people do this they do not have the print at all and are just trying to screw you (the buyer) over.
i agree with cashman fucking bastards!
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