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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by GD303uk on Apr 7, 2008 12:20:52 GMT 1, what did you all think about the Olympic flame run yesterday?
i was proud to see the people of Britain cause a fuss around it and bring to attention the oppression of Tibet and the human rights issues in China,
it was interesting to see Olympic and police spokes men talk of anarchists and trouble causes when it was clearly normal people concerned about Tibet and China,
to see the police tackle people for waving a flag or wearing a tshirt made my blood boil but not as much as seeing some of the idiots caring the flame say sport and politics shouldn't mix,
naive and plays into the hand of our governments and chinas spin,
if politics has nothing to do with sport why was it so important to china that Brown (cunt) had to meet the flame.
a big up to all the people who made the Olympic flame relay a PR disaster and embarrassment for china.
thanks
what did you all think about the Olympic flame run yesterday?
i was proud to see the people of Britain cause a fuss around it and bring to attention the oppression of Tibet and the human rights issues in China,
it was interesting to see Olympic and police spokes men talk of anarchists and trouble causes when it was clearly normal people concerned about Tibet and China,
to see the police tackle people for waving a flag or wearing a tshirt made my blood boil but not as much as seeing some of the idiots caring the flame say sport and politics shouldn't mix,
naive and plays into the hand of our governments and chinas spin,
if politics has nothing to do with sport why was it so important to china that Brown (cunt) had to meet the flame.
a big up to all the people who made the Olympic flame relay a PR disaster and embarrassment for china.
thanks
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by frank11 on Apr 7, 2008 12:25:28 GMT 1, Bottom line i think the Olympics has enabled the World to ask China questions on human rights, that they would never of been able too before
Bottom line i think the Olympics has enabled the World to ask China questions on human rights, that they would never of been able too before
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by Daniel Silk on Apr 7, 2008 12:25:31 GMT 1, It was great for the rest of the world to see that people in this country care so much about the situation in Tibet ;D but also ashamed of the way our Government and Police handled it 
It was great for the rest of the world to see that people in this country care so much about the situation in Tibet ;D but also ashamed of the way our Government and Police handled it |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by mcnuts on Apr 7, 2008 12:33:25 GMT 1, must agree with silky *shock* *horror* london police arent exactly friendly either and glad they got called for it. To be honest, all the talk of "the Olympics isnt about sport its about unity" was doing my head in. The Olympics is all about politics and nationalism, sport is simply a veil. Why do you think during the cold war eastern block countries pumped children full of steroids or countries judge โhow good they areโ based on a medial count?
I agree, the Olympics does provide an opportunity to showcase Chinaโs human rights record but there are issues as to why they got awarded the Olympic sin the first place and I think there should be a proper boycott just like in 1936. Anyway, the Olympics in my mind are, or at least have become a total farce.
must agree with silky *shock* *horror* london police arent exactly friendly either and glad they got called for it. To be honest, all the talk of "the Olympics isnt about sport its about unity" was doing my head in. The Olympics is all about politics and nationalism, sport is simply a veil. Why do you think during the cold war eastern block countries pumped children full of steroids or countries judge โhow good they areโ based on a medial count?
I agree, the Olympics does provide an opportunity to showcase Chinaโs human rights record but there are issues as to why they got awarded the Olympic sin the first place and I think there should be a proper boycott just like in 1936. Anyway, the Olympics in my mind are, or at least have become a total farce.
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by chrisoffbeat on Apr 7, 2008 12:38:15 GMT 1, That was the best afternoon's TV entertainment for a long time. Well done the blokes with the fire extinguisher. And Konnie Huq for inadvertantly providing the best TV moment involving a kids TV presenter since the Five Star/Matt Bianco phone-in incidents on Sat morning TV.
What I'd really have liked though would have been for one of the athletes or pompus celebs carrying the torch to suddenly stop, blow it out, and rip off their tracksuit revealing the words FREE TIBET on a T-Shirt underneath!
Diappointed to see so many sporting heroes joining in though... Paula Radcliffe especially; given her very strong moral stance against drugs in sport (I recall she once protested on a lap of honour) seemed strange that she was unable to take a similar stand when people's lives rather than a medal were at stake.
That was the best afternoon's TV entertainment for a long time. Well done the blokes with the fire extinguisher. And Konnie Huq for inadvertantly providing the best TV moment involving a kids TV presenter since the Five Star/Matt Bianco phone-in incidents on Sat morning TV.
What I'd really have liked though would have been for one of the athletes or pompus celebs carrying the torch to suddenly stop, blow it out, and rip off their tracksuit revealing the words FREE TIBET on a T-Shirt underneath!
Diappointed to see so many sporting heroes joining in though... Paula Radcliffe especially; given her very strong moral stance against drugs in sport (I recall she once protested on a lap of honour) seemed strange that she was unable to take a similar stand when people's lives rather than a medal were at stake.
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by mcnuts on Apr 7, 2008 12:40:21 GMT 1, What I'd really have liked though would have been for one of the athletes or pompus celebs carrying the torch to suddenly stop, blow it out, and rip off their tracksuit revealing the words FREE TIBET on a T-Shirt underneath!
EXACTLY!!!!! Would have been a very bold subversive move. Why pull out when ya could have done that. Why not have just chucked it in the Thames 
What I'd really have liked though would have been for one of the athletes or pompus celebs carrying the torch to suddenly stop, blow it out, and rip off their tracksuit revealing the words FREE TIBET on a T-Shirt underneath! EXACTLY!!!!! Would have been a very bold subversive move. Why pull out when ya could have done that. Why not have just chucked it in the Thames |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by Daniel Silk on Apr 7, 2008 12:41:31 GMT 1, I think ALL the British athlete's should wear special Tibet tops at the medal ceremonies ;D
Does Tibet have a national anthem? could they get the crowds to all sing the Tibet anthem whenever the china one gets played ;D
I think ALL the British athlete's should wear special Tibet tops at the medal ceremonies ;D
Does Tibet have a national anthem? could they get the crowds to all sing the Tibet anthem whenever the china one gets played ;D
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by Daniel Silk on Apr 7, 2008 12:44:18 GMT 1, What I'd really have liked though would have been for one of the athletes or pompus celebs carrying the torch to suddenly stop, blow it out, and rip off their tracksuit revealing the words FREE TIBET on a T-Shirt underneath! EXACTLY!!!!! Would have been a very bold subversive move. Why pull out when ya could have done that. Why not have just chucked it in the Thames
I loved the bit when the person interviewing Connie asked her if she was wearing anything under her track suit!  She said NO 
What I'd really have liked though would have been for one of the athletes or pompus celebs carrying the torch to suddenly stop, blow it out, and rip off their tracksuit revealing the words FREE TIBET on a T-Shirt underneath! EXACTLY!!!!! Would have been a very bold subversive move. Why pull out when ya could have done that. Why not have just chucked it in the Thames I loved the bit when the person interviewing Connie asked her if she was wearing anything under her track suit! She said NO |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by GD303uk on Apr 7, 2008 12:47:20 GMT 1, What I'd really have liked though would have been for one of the athletes or pompus celebs carrying the torch to suddenly stop, blow it out, and rip off their tracksuit revealing the words FREE TIBET on a T-Shirt underneath! EXACTLY!!!!! Would have been a very bold subversive move. Why pull out when ya could have done that. Why not have just chucked it in the Thames
i was thinking the same thing, a great opertunity to make a huge point "throw the flame in the Thames " i was shouting at the TV,
you could have killed 2 birds with one stone, a massive news oppertuntiy bringing attention to the veiws on china and the olympics and could have given their flagging carrer a boost,
it would have been a great stunt,
it did make great tv though i was watching the flame instead of footy
What I'd really have liked though would have been for one of the athletes or pompus celebs carrying the torch to suddenly stop, blow it out, and rip off their tracksuit revealing the words FREE TIBET on a T-Shirt underneath! EXACTLY!!!!! Would have been a very bold subversive move. Why pull out when ya could have done that. Why not have just chucked it in the Thames i was thinking the same thing, a great opertunity to make a huge point "throw the flame in the Thames " i was shouting at the TV, you could have killed 2 birds with one stone, a massive news oppertuntiy bringing attention to the veiws on china and the olympics and could have given their flagging carrer a boost, it would have been a great stunt, it did make great tv though i was watching the flame instead of footy |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by BONGO on Apr 7, 2008 13:16:36 GMT 1, BONGO INTRIGUED WITH PROTEST AND REACTION TO PROTEST
BONGO IS ALWAYS AWARE THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE VIEWPOINT TO ANY STORY. BONGO GLAD TO SEE ACTIVISM WITHOUT INJURY, BUT BONGO ALSO CONSIDERS THE PERSPECTIVE THAT WE ALL TACITLY OR NOT SUPPORT BY CHINESE REGIME BY OUR WESTERN FETISHMENT OF CONSUMER ITEMS AND ELECTRONIC GOODS.
BONGO NOTE THAT THE SHOES WORN BY PROTESTORS LIKELY TO BE CHINESE MADE, DITTO MOBILE PHONES AND SUCHLIKE.
BONGO DOES NOT WISH TO DERIDE PROTESTORS AND DOES ACCEPT THAT IN TERMS OF PUBLICITY , THE PROTESTS ACHIEVED THEIR AIM, IF NOT ANY LASTING EFFECT ON CHINESE REGIME
BUT BONGO THINKS A WIDER VIEW NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED - AN JOLLY AFTERNOON IN THE OPEN AIR IS AN EASY DAY OUT AND MAY EASE ONES GUILT ABOUT NOT BEING INVOLVED, BUT IS A DIVERSIONARY IRRELEVANCE SOME OF CYNICAL OUTLOOK MIGHT SAY.
TIBET IS NOT THE ISSUE , DESPITE THE HEADLINES
CHINA COULD BE CONSIDERED AN EASY TARGET, BUT ITS POWER GROWS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF OUR SOCIETY IN MANY WAYS.
IT IS AN INTRUIGING QUANDRY
BONGO INTRIGUED WITH PROTEST AND REACTION TO PROTEST
BONGO IS ALWAYS AWARE THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE VIEWPOINT TO ANY STORY. BONGO GLAD TO SEE ACTIVISM WITHOUT INJURY, BUT BONGO ALSO CONSIDERS THE PERSPECTIVE THAT WE ALL TACITLY OR NOT SUPPORT BY CHINESE REGIME BY OUR WESTERN FETISHMENT OF CONSUMER ITEMS AND ELECTRONIC GOODS.
BONGO NOTE THAT THE SHOES WORN BY PROTESTORS LIKELY TO BE CHINESE MADE, DITTO MOBILE PHONES AND SUCHLIKE.
BONGO DOES NOT WISH TO DERIDE PROTESTORS AND DOES ACCEPT THAT IN TERMS OF PUBLICITY , THE PROTESTS ACHIEVED THEIR AIM, IF NOT ANY LASTING EFFECT ON CHINESE REGIME
BUT BONGO THINKS A WIDER VIEW NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED - AN JOLLY AFTERNOON IN THE OPEN AIR IS AN EASY DAY OUT AND MAY EASE ONES GUILT ABOUT NOT BEING INVOLVED, BUT IS A DIVERSIONARY IRRELEVANCE SOME OF CYNICAL OUTLOOK MIGHT SAY.
TIBET IS NOT THE ISSUE , DESPITE THE HEADLINES
CHINA COULD BE CONSIDERED AN EASY TARGET, BUT ITS POWER GROWS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF OUR SOCIETY IN MANY WAYS.
IT IS AN INTRUIGING QUANDRY
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by Gentle Mental on Apr 7, 2008 14:17:44 GMT 1, Despite what you guys think, China is still one of the poorest country in the world. And her children live under what I'd think is the most polluted skies and rivers in the world, whilst most of their parents work in the assembly lines inside toxic-fumed factory for less a cup of starbuck per 12 hour shift, just so developed nations can have their blue skies, apple pies and ipods and plastic happy meal toys.
I really don't know... to me, it feels like bullying. Another act of arm twisting, making the poor beg, bend over etc.
It's like a group of rich kids kicking a poor kid for one mistake he made 5 years ago on his a once-in-lifetime birthday party to be attended by his rich western parents.
That's how it feels over here. Everyone has worked so hard to make this event a success, despite the poverty, the pride is clearly evident, they've cleaned up the streets, the locals learned English, the farmers, street cleaners, the out-of-town villagers, learned to be "civilized" to welcome you.
precious you.
I'm in China now, but I'm not Chinese, and iit's me humble opinion is all. peace.
Despite what you guys think, China is still one of the poorest country in the world. And her children live under what I'd think is the most polluted skies and rivers in the world, whilst most of their parents work in the assembly lines inside toxic-fumed factory for less a cup of starbuck per 12 hour shift, just so developed nations can have their blue skies, apple pies and ipods and plastic happy meal toys.
I really don't know... to me, it feels like bullying. Another act of arm twisting, making the poor beg, bend over etc.
It's like a group of rich kids kicking a poor kid for one mistake he made 5 years ago on his a once-in-lifetime birthday party to be attended by his rich western parents.
That's how it feels over here. Everyone has worked so hard to make this event a success, despite the poverty, the pride is clearly evident, they've cleaned up the streets, the locals learned English, the farmers, street cleaners, the out-of-town villagers, learned to be "civilized" to welcome you.
precious you.
I'm in China now, but I'm not Chinese, and iit's me humble opinion is all. peace.
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by sahoria on Apr 7, 2008 15:03:46 GMT 1, ive lived in northern china ji lin province and travelled around, no one here i can see is saying the chinese people are bad in anyway at all... i loved everyone that i met there... people here aswell as there get upset when people are forcefully evicted from there homes to build new roads / stadiums and even a nature reserve park... its been documented far to many times before too... dalai lama called it cultural genocide what was going on in tibet and think in a way he was right but could have used better choice of words... im happy that people do protest here and in paris as it shows the chinese government that the whole world is watching them....just my thoughts though and sure people will disagree but atleast we can over here!...s
ive lived in northern china ji lin province and travelled around, no one here i can see is saying the chinese people are bad in anyway at all... i loved everyone that i met there... people here aswell as there get upset when people are forcefully evicted from there homes to build new roads / stadiums and even a nature reserve park... its been documented far to many times before too... dalai lama called it cultural genocide what was going on in tibet and think in a way he was right but could have used better choice of words... im happy that people do protest here and in paris as it shows the chinese government that the whole world is watching them....just my thoughts though and sure people will disagree but atleast we can over here!...s
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by curiousgeorge on Apr 7, 2008 15:52:40 GMT 1, This grates me tbh, i'm sure i don't speak for all those in power making noise about China.But where were these people during the troubles in Rwanda??
This grates me tbh, i'm sure i don't speak for all those in power making noise about China.But where were these people during the troubles in Rwanda??
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by sahoria on Apr 7, 2008 15:56:36 GMT 1, and why didnt the uk government send someone to represent them for the 10 years after the horrible incidents that happened in rwanda...question i cant answer and alot of things happen around the world which no one protests about but im proud that people are doing it now for tibet....s
and why didnt the uk government send someone to represent them for the 10 years after the horrible incidents that happened in rwanda...question i cant answer and alot of things happen around the world which no one protests about but im proud that people are doing it now for tibet....s
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by Gentle Mental on Apr 7, 2008 16:05:36 GMT 1, cuz it's fashionable.
like adopting an African kid was.
cuz it's fashionable.
like adopting an African kid was.
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by Gentle Mental on Apr 7, 2008 16:39:35 GMT 1, As you should mr lurker. as you should.
But do consider all sides prior, is all i ask.
I know it's nearly impossible to convince people on the outside to see what's inside, but do explore a tad more, and not join something because a popular person said so.
This kind of reminds me of that Damien Hirst's Shark installation.
As you should mr lurker. as you should.
But do consider all sides prior, is all i ask.
I know it's nearly impossible to convince people on the outside to see what's inside, but do explore a tad more, and not join something because a popular person said so.
This kind of reminds me of that Damien Hirst's Shark installation.
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by saltandiron on Apr 7, 2008 16:48:55 GMT 1, This kind of reminds me of that Damien Hirst's Shark installation.
How so?
This kind of reminds me of that Damien Hirst's Shark installation. How so? |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by otomi on Apr 7, 2008 16:51:56 GMT 1, I think having the Olympics in China show the government there it is right what they are doing. The same happened in 1936 with the German nazi government it was the biggest boost they ever got from the international community. I can feel with the people in Tibet I grew up in East Germany and Russia was our China. I hope that a boycott will happen somehow because the politicians are certainly not doing anything.
I think having the Olympics in China show the government there it is right what they are doing. The same happened in 1936 with the German nazi government it was the biggest boost they ever got from the international community. I can feel with the people in Tibet I grew up in East Germany and Russia was our China. I hope that a boycott will happen somehow because the politicians are certainly not doing anything.
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by Gentle Mental on Apr 7, 2008 16:53:03 GMT 1, This kind of reminds me of that Damien Hirst's Shark installation. How so?
you won't understand how it really feels to be dead when you're alive. all you see is a beautifully shark in all its glory (albeit it's lack of movement).
This kind of reminds me of that Damien Hirst's Shark installation. How so? you won't understand how it really feels to be dead when you're alive. all you see is a beautifully shark in all its glory (albeit it's lack of movement). |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by otomi on Apr 7, 2008 16:53:55 GMT 1, Despite what you guys think, China is still one of the poorest country in the world. And her children live under what I'd think is the most polluted skies and rivers in the world, whilst most of their parents work in the assembly lines inside toxic-fumed factory for less a cup of starbuck per 12 hour shift, just so developed nations can have their blue skies, apple pies and ipods and plastic happy meal toys. I really don't know... to me, it feels like bullying. Another act of arm twisting, making the poor beg, bend over etc. It's like a group of rich kids kicking a poor kid for one mistake he made 5 years ago on his a once-in-lifetime birthday party to be attended by his rich western parents. That's how it feels over here. Everyone has worked so hard to make this event a success, despite the poverty, the pride is clearly evident, they've cleaned up the streets, the locals learned English, the farmers, street cleaners, the out-of-town villagers, learned to be "civilized" to welcome you. precious you. I'm in China now, but I'm not Chinese, and iit's me humble opinion is all. peace.
The Olympics will not help the poor people in any way. They will not be able to go to any events and they probably can't even see it on TV because they have to work 20h in some sweatshop.
Despite what you guys think, China is still one of the poorest country in the world. And her children live under what I'd think is the most polluted skies and rivers in the world, whilst most of their parents work in the assembly lines inside toxic-fumed factory for less a cup of starbuck per 12 hour shift, just so developed nations can have their blue skies, apple pies and ipods and plastic happy meal toys. I really don't know... to me, it feels like bullying. Another act of arm twisting, making the poor beg, bend over etc. It's like a group of rich kids kicking a poor kid for one mistake he made 5 years ago on his a once-in-lifetime birthday party to be attended by his rich western parents. That's how it feels over here. Everyone has worked so hard to make this event a success, despite the poverty, the pride is clearly evident, they've cleaned up the streets, the locals learned English, the farmers, street cleaners, the out-of-town villagers, learned to be "civilized" to welcome you. precious you. I'm in China now, but I'm not Chinese, and iit's me humble opinion is all. peace. The Olympics will not help the poor people in any way. They will not be able to go to any events and they probably can't even see it on TV because they have to work 20h in some sweatshop. |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by Gentle Mental on Apr 7, 2008 17:02:41 GMT 1, It makes them feel proud. It's hope for their children.
It makes them feel proud. It's hope for their children.
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by otomi on Apr 7, 2008 17:11:15 GMT 1, It makes them feel proud. It's hope for their children.
If you live in a country like that nothing the government does makes you feel proud the only hope for their children is to get rid of their corrupt leaders. The communist party shot thousands of their own people.
It makes them feel proud. It's hope for their children. If you live in a country like that nothing the government does makes you feel proud the only hope for their children is to get rid of their corrupt leaders. The communist party shot thousands of their own people. |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by sahoria on Apr 7, 2008 17:16:18 GMT 1, its an honour for any country to host the olympics... and i am sure the children there will be getting up each day excited when the olympics are on... the shaolin movement stalled in the early 80`s until film came out called shaolin temple... it was one of the films that most people there say contributed to the new birth of the shaolin movement which was fantastic news... but if you go and actually study there you will find most places teach wu shu as the government thought it looked more pleasing to the eye...there are still some schools around that teach original gongfu but not to many...
im not saying who is right and wrong in this thread think everyone has made valid points but to not talk about what is going on in tibet i think would be wrong... its a shame that there will be time delay in showing live events in china also just incase there is protests at the main events...
i was there when SARS first came about also and as much as it was documented around the world the villages i went to no one knew about it at all... it took the government a long time to actually say they had a problem... again because they are proud nation but eventually they asked for help... i am hoping they do hold discussions with dalai lama representatives but in truth do not think that is going to happen....
not to many said anything about what happened in nanking neither... we all make mistakes and think it is the generations after that will pick up the pieces... it is great for the chinese people to accept people into there country to show how beautiful china can be but like wise it is important to show people the struggles they face also... lets just hope things get better for everyone...s
its an honour for any country to host the olympics... and i am sure the children there will be getting up each day excited when the olympics are on... the shaolin movement stalled in the early 80`s until film came out called shaolin temple... it was one of the films that most people there say contributed to the new birth of the shaolin movement which was fantastic news... but if you go and actually study there you will find most places teach wu shu as the government thought it looked more pleasing to the eye...there are still some schools around that teach original gongfu but not to many...
im not saying who is right and wrong in this thread think everyone has made valid points but to not talk about what is going on in tibet i think would be wrong... its a shame that there will be time delay in showing live events in china also just incase there is protests at the main events...
i was there when SARS first came about also and as much as it was documented around the world the villages i went to no one knew about it at all... it took the government a long time to actually say they had a problem... again because they are proud nation but eventually they asked for help... i am hoping they do hold discussions with dalai lama representatives but in truth do not think that is going to happen....
not to many said anything about what happened in nanking neither... we all make mistakes and think it is the generations after that will pick up the pieces... it is great for the chinese people to accept people into there country to show how beautiful china can be but like wise it is important to show people the struggles they face also... lets just hope things get better for everyone...s
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by s-editions on Apr 7, 2008 17:17:56 GMT 1, Maybe these say all that needs to be said:
Maybe these say all that needs to be said: |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by s-editions on Apr 7, 2008 17:26:32 GMT 1, S-editions. the youtube link says something. The print says "i'm gonna make some money out of a cause to line my pocket" imho like, unless you're donating all profits to a pro-Tibet cause?
There are no profits. Posters don't print themselves, and 500 of these these went up along the torch route. We are doing what we are able. You?
S-editions. the youtube link says something. The print says "i'm gonna make some money out of a cause to line my pocket" imho like, unless you're donating all profits to a pro-Tibet cause? There are no profits. Posters don't print themselves, and 500 of these these went up along the torch route. We are doing what we are able. You? |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by sahoria on Apr 7, 2008 17:38:47 GMT 1, just small suggestion but maybe put disclaimer of the youtube post that they are upsetting images... s
just small suggestion but maybe put disclaimer of the youtube post that they are upsetting images... s
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by s-editions on Apr 7, 2008 17:39:45 GMT 1, There are no profits. Posters don't print themselves, and 500 of these these went up along the torch route. We are doing what we are able. You? Fair enough, I thought it was a print you were selling. Good on you for putting them along the route.
We kept a few back to sell to defray dr.d's expenses so she can do her next one. There isn't a snowball's chance of even breaking even though. It wasn't the point of doing it.
There are no profits. Posters don't print themselves, and 500 of these these went up along the torch route. We are doing what we are able. You? Fair enough, I thought it was a print you were selling. Good on you for putting them along the route. We kept a few back to sell to defray dr.d's expenses so she can do her next one. There isn't a snowball's chance of even breaking even though. It wasn't the point of doing it. |
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Tibet, Olympics, china,, by Daniel Silk on Apr 7, 2008 17:44:37 GMT 1, S-editions. the youtube link says something. The print says "i'm gonna make some money out of a cause to line my pocket" imho like, unless you're donating all profits to a pro-Tibet cause?
S-editions. the youtube link says something. The print says "i'm gonna make some money out of a cause to line my pocket" imho like, unless you're donating all profits to a pro-Tibet cause? |
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She said NO 
