froz
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To replace or not to replace..., by froz on Apr 9, 2008 23:28:03 GMT 1, I have a question about a print a friend of mine bought. He received it and everything was fine and dandy until he noticed there was a flaw in the print. It looked like a stroke of paint had 2 colors mixed with it and the print was "damaged" if you want to call it that. He contacts the gallery he purchases it from and they tell him that if he would like he can send it back to them and receive a "replacement" print that was saved specificilly for damaged prints, but they only have a handful and its first come first serve basis only and he will have to pay for shipping there but they will pay for it back.
The problem is he has an extremely low edition number of the run and they informed him that he will be getting a "middle of the stack" number. Do you think he should send the print back and get a new edition number, or do you think the print is worth more as it is such a low edition number, the flaw should mean nothing?
I could not help him with his decision as I am new to the art collecting world. Any advice?
froz
I have a question about a print a friend of mine bought. He received it and everything was fine and dandy until he noticed there was a flaw in the print. It looked like a stroke of paint had 2 colors mixed with it and the print was "damaged" if you want to call it that. He contacts the gallery he purchases it from and they tell him that if he would like he can send it back to them and receive a "replacement" print that was saved specificilly for damaged prints, but they only have a handful and its first come first serve basis only and he will have to pay for shipping there but they will pay for it back.
The problem is he has an extremely low edition number of the run and they informed him that he will be getting a "middle of the stack" number. Do you think he should send the print back and get a new edition number, or do you think the print is worth more as it is such a low edition number, the flaw should mean nothing?
I could not help him with his decision as I am new to the art collecting world. Any advice?
froz
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quicksnap
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To replace or not to replace..., by quicksnap on Apr 9, 2008 23:48:17 GMT 1, the edition number does not determine value. some people may prefer low edition numbers, but all of the prints are the same. I would get the replacement, because with the flaw, the print is worth less.
the edition number does not determine value. some people may prefer low edition numbers, but all of the prints are the same. I would get the replacement, because with the flaw, the print is worth less.
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To replace or not to replace..., by top on Apr 9, 2008 23:57:28 GMT 1, ..100% replace, bit naff of the gallery to make your mate pay postage etc when they sent him a 'duff' print in the first place!!
..or just plain ask for the money back..
as for edition numbers, morrisonphoto covered it superbly
..100% replace, bit naff of the gallery to make your mate pay postage etc when they sent him a 'duff' print in the first place!!
..or just plain ask for the money back..
as for edition numbers, morrisonphoto covered it superbly
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dwight
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To replace or not to replace..., by dwight on Apr 10, 2008 0:07:17 GMT 1, I have been in that situation before, but the only thing that puzzles me is that you will get a different edition number. In my experience, they take destroy the flawed print and give that number to an extra un-numbered print that they keep just for that situation.. Why would they lose a number out of the edition? that doesn't make sense
I have been in that situation before, but the only thing that puzzles me is that you will get a different edition number. In my experience, they take destroy the flawed print and give that number to an extra un-numbered print that they keep just for that situation.. Why would they lose a number out of the edition? that doesn't make sense
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froz
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To replace or not to replace..., by froz on Apr 10, 2008 0:11:21 GMT 1, Would that go for same with prints that are hand painted, that the edition number is exactly that a number?
Would that go for same with prints that are hand painted, that the edition number is exactly that a number?
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hillview
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To replace or not to replace..., by hillview on Apr 10, 2008 1:58:44 GMT 1, without seeing the actual flaw (and assuming that it's not nasty which seems to be the case here), another way of looking at it is that what your friend has is a truly 'unique' print.. we have seen these in like misprinted stamps, etc which may become extremely collectible...
without seeing the actual flaw (and assuming that it's not nasty which seems to be the case here), another way of looking at it is that what your friend has is a truly 'unique' print.. we have seen these in like misprinted stamps, etc which may become extremely collectible...
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To replace or not to replace..., by craigf on Apr 10, 2008 2:13:20 GMT 1, Even if there is a flaw the statement it makes the piece worthless is a bit over the top. It may detract a buyer in the future or it may as it says above add character to the piece. Without seeing the piece I can not comment whether I'd send it back, but if your friend is unhappy it will only bug him over time and he should get it replaced (hopefully he doesn't find the flaw is meant to be there!!!)
Even if there is a flaw the statement it makes the piece worthless is a bit over the top. It may detract a buyer in the future or it may as it says above add character to the piece. Without seeing the piece I can not comment whether I'd send it back, but if your friend is unhappy it will only bug him over time and he should get it replaced (hopefully he doesn't find the flaw is meant to be there!!!)
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hillview
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To replace or not to replace..., by hillview on Apr 10, 2008 2:34:39 GMT 1, maybe it would help if we knew what the piece was to begin with and with pictures of the flaw! the board's reaction thereafter will probably be fairly good indication as to whether your friend should send the print back, assuming he's still not sure what to do
maybe it would help if we knew what the piece was to begin with and with pictures of the flaw! the board's reaction thereafter will probably be fairly good indication as to whether your friend should send the print back, assuming he's still not sure what to do
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quicksnap
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To replace or not to replace..., by quicksnap on Apr 10, 2008 2:57:14 GMT 1, Even if there is a flaw the statement it makes the piece worthless is a bit over the top. It may detract a buyer in the future or it may as it says above add character to the piece. Without seeing the piece I can not comment whether I'd send it back, but if your friend is unhappy it will only bug him over time and he should get it replaced (hopefully he doesn't find the flaw is meant to be there!!!)
i didn't say the print would be worthless. i said it would be worth less (than if it didn't have a flaw).
Even if there is a flaw the statement it makes the piece worthless is a bit over the top. It may detract a buyer in the future or it may as it says above add character to the piece. Without seeing the piece I can not comment whether I'd send it back, but if your friend is unhappy it will only bug him over time and he should get it replaced (hopefully he doesn't find the flaw is meant to be there!!!) i didn't say the print would be worthless. i said it would be worth less (than if it didn't have a flaw). |
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To replace or not to replace..., by tmccarthy41 on Apr 10, 2008 3:40:36 GMT 1, replace... unless you have number one
replace... unless you have number one
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froz
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To replace or not to replace..., by froz on Apr 10, 2008 6:31:49 GMT 1, Thanks everyone for the feedback. It is Faile- My Confessions
Thanks everyone for the feedback. It is Faile- My Confessions |
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s-editions
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To replace or not to replace..., by s-editions on Apr 10, 2008 8:15:20 GMT 1, If it is a signed print that is an indication that the artist has approved the print. It is therefore not a flaw but is instead a part of the artist's vision for the print. Of course, this does not apply to unsigned numbered prints unless it is the artist themself who has numbered it.
If it is a signed print that is an indication that the artist has approved the print. It is therefore not a flaw but is instead a part of the artist's vision for the print. Of course, this does not apply to unsigned numbered prints unless it is the artist themself who has numbered it.
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To replace or not to replace..., by craigf on Apr 10, 2008 21:16:49 GMT 1, Even if there is a flaw the statement it makes the piece worthless is a bit over the top. It may detract a buyer in the future or it may as it says above add character to the piece. Without seeing the piece I can not comment whether I'd send it back, but if your friend is unhappy it will only bug him over time and he should get it replaced (hopefully he doesn't find the flaw is meant to be there!!!) i didn't say the print would be worthless. i said it would be worth less (than if it didn't have a flaw).
Sorry, I must learn how to read properly! maybe I shouldn't post when jetlagged, the eyes must have been blurry 
Even if there is a flaw the statement it makes the piece worthless is a bit over the top. It may detract a buyer in the future or it may as it says above add character to the piece. Without seeing the piece I can not comment whether I'd send it back, but if your friend is unhappy it will only bug him over time and he should get it replaced (hopefully he doesn't find the flaw is meant to be there!!!) i didn't say the print would be worthless. i said it would be worth less (than if it didn't have a flaw). Sorry, I must learn how to read properly! maybe I shouldn't post when jetlagged, the eyes must have been blurry |
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To replace or not to replace..., by craigf on Apr 10, 2008 21:18:03 GMT 1, If it's Faile it is meant to look like that / is intentional. I just opened mine and there are bits partially painted, coffee spots etc. all over it ;D
If it's Faile it is meant to look like that / is intentional. I just opened mine and there are bits partially painted, coffee spots etc. all over it ;D
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To replace or not to replace..., by curiousgeorge on Apr 10, 2008 21:41:55 GMT 1, Lol, Hand finished 
Lol, Hand finished |
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froz
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To replace or not to replace..., by froz on Apr 10, 2008 22:33:17 GMT 1, So what you guys are saying is from the image it doesnt look like a big deal? 
So what you guys are saying is from the image it doesnt look like a big deal? |
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To replace or not to replace..., by Deleted on Apr 11, 2008 7:13:45 GMT 1, the more that faile prints look like they have been dragged through a hedge backwards the better for faile fans. takes a bit of getting used to, but i reckon its a keeper.
the more that faile prints look like they have been dragged through a hedge backwards the better for faile fans. takes a bit of getting used to, but i reckon its a keeper.
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To replace or not to replace..., by streetgirl on Apr 11, 2008 8:08:48 GMT 1,
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To replace or not to replace..., by spencerlee on Apr 11, 2008 8:55:41 GMT 1, So what you guys are saying is from the image it doesnt look like a big deal?
Does it bother you\your friend when you look at it, or are you worried about much you can sell it for?
What I mean is, if it bothers you change it, if you are worried about the value, change it, but bear in mind -as many have people pointed out- it's probably hand finishing which is the finishing process of prints from Faile.
So what you guys are saying is from the image it doesnt look like a big deal? Does it bother you\your friend when you look at it, or are you worried about much you can sell it for? What I mean is, if it bothers you change it, if you are worried about the value, change it, but bear in mind -as many have people pointed out- it's probably hand finishing which is the finishing process of prints from Faile. |
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To replace or not to replace..., by Danger Mouse on Apr 11, 2008 9:43:44 GMT 1, I have been in that situation before, but the only thing that puzzles me is that you will get a different edition number. In my experience, they take destroy the flawed print and give that number to an extra un-numbered print that they keep just for that situation.. Why would they lose a number out of the edition? that doesn't make sense
I agree with Dwight. I had the same thing happen to me. Sent the print back and got a new print back but with the same number. You should not get a different number otherwise they are not selling the complete run.
I have been in that situation before, but the only thing that puzzles me is that you will get a different edition number. In my experience, they take destroy the flawed print and give that number to an extra un-numbered print that they keep just for that situation.. Why would they lose a number out of the edition? that doesn't make sense I agree with Dwight. I had the same thing happen to me. Sent the print back and got a new print back but with the same number. You should not get a different number otherwise they are not selling the complete run. |
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To replace or not to replace..., by Danger Mouse on Apr 11, 2008 9:45:21 GMT 1, I just read the rest of the post. If its a Faile then its fine. You should see the Faile I have. It looks like Patrick spilt a few cups of coffee over it. Its wicked!! :-)
I just read the rest of the post. If its a Faile then its fine. You should see the Faile I have. It looks like Patrick spilt a few cups of coffee over it. Its wicked!! :-)
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froz
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To replace or not to replace..., by froz on Apr 11, 2008 15:22:09 GMT 1, Ok I will let him know what everyone has said, Now he needs to get it out of the tube and find a big enough frame for it ;D
Thank you everyone for your responses and more than helpful opinions.
froz
Ok I will let him know what everyone has said, Now he needs to get it out of the tube and find a big enough frame for it ;D
Thank you everyone for your responses and more than helpful opinions.
froz
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