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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by Harveyn on Oct 31, 2007 10:38:15 GMT 1, I really have had my fill with the number of dishonest people on Ebay so I thought I would start a thread to allow people to rant about buyers, sellers and or Ebay itself.
I also thought it might be useful for people to warn fellow members of the latest scams.
Within the last 24hrs I have had two infuriating episodes. I am selling a couple of prized prints to make way and fund my increasing collection. For those of you who know me you know I am a serious collector.
Here goes for my rant!!!!
I was selling my Framed Silver Sid yesterday to UK bidders only because of the size and weight. The winning bidder was from the USA. So I contacted them and told them I would be making a 2nd chance offer to the 2nd highest bidder. I then did so. A couple of minutes later I got an email from the 1st placed bidder with a query over payment. It was exactly the same type of mail you get from Ebay. I hit the respond button and it took me into the log in screen on ebay. For some reason I stopped (I still do not know why). I then went onto the web and logged into Ebay the normal way. There was no message in my inbox. I forwarded the email to Ebay as a potential spoof mail and in the interim the 2nd place bidder indicated they would be accepting my offer.
Happy chap I had avoided a potential fraudulent attempt to access my account and I had sold my print.
Then.....Ebay contact me to state the original winner was operating from a stolen account. They canceled the whole auction including my 2nd chance offer. I ask why (because I had dealt with the matter) and I got no response.
Steam coming out of ears for a couple of hours. Fortunately the 2nd chance buyer was able to contact me and he still really wanted the print so I set up a BIN on Ebay and the deal was concluded. Happier now..... ;D ;D
I was also selling my Micallef Minotaur Weapon Ed 50 which had an offer at the starting price from day one. The auction ends today. All of a sudden the bidder cancels his bid this morning with an explanation of "wrong number entered". What and it took him 5 days to realize this....   .
What a complete tw*t. I reported him to Ebay and I am still waiting their response (I can guess what it will be).
Now this person sells a lot of art on the bay and is probably a lurker on this board. I would name them but then I would be lowering myself to their standards.
I do despair with the amount of dishonest people you come across on Ebay. From shill bidding to non-payments.
Rant over and feeling a little bit better....... 
I really have had my fill with the number of dishonest people on Ebay so I thought I would start a thread to allow people to rant about buyers, sellers and or Ebay itself. I also thought it might be useful for people to warn fellow members of the latest scams. Within the last 24hrs I have had two infuriating episodes. I am selling a couple of prized prints to make way and fund my increasing collection. For those of you who know me you know I am a serious collector. Here goes for my rant!!!! I was selling my Framed Silver Sid yesterday to UK bidders only because of the size and weight. The winning bidder was from the USA. So I contacted them and told them I would be making a 2nd chance offer to the 2nd highest bidder. I then did so. A couple of minutes later I got an email from the 1st placed bidder with a query over payment. It was exactly the same type of mail you get from Ebay. I hit the respond button and it took me into the log in screen on ebay. For some reason I stopped (I still do not know why). I then went onto the web and logged into Ebay the normal way. There was no message in my inbox. I forwarded the email to Ebay as a potential spoof mail and in the interim the 2nd place bidder indicated they would be accepting my offer. Happy chap I had avoided a potential fraudulent attempt to access my account and I had sold my print. Then.....Ebay contact me to state the original winner was operating from a stolen account. They canceled the whole auction including my 2nd chance offer. I ask why (because I had dealt with the matter) and I got no response. Steam coming out of ears for a couple of hours. Fortunately the 2nd chance buyer was able to contact me and he still really wanted the print so I set up a BIN on Ebay and the deal was concluded. Happier now..... ;D ;D I was also selling my Micallef Minotaur Weapon Ed 50 which had an offer at the starting price from day one. The auction ends today. All of a sudden the bidder cancels his bid this morning with an explanation of "wrong number entered". What and it took him 5 days to realize this.... . What a complete tw*t. I reported him to Ebay and I am still waiting their response (I can guess what it will be). Now this person sells a lot of art on the bay and is probably a lurker on this board. I would name them but then I would be lowering myself to their standards. I do despair with the amount of dishonest people you come across on Ebay. From shill bidding to non-payments. Rant over and feeling a little bit better....... |
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by pezlow on Oct 31, 2007 10:41:35 GMT 1, It is very frustrating. I recently had a piece of art "bought" on ebay when the buyer, based in cyprus bought something from me on a BIN. He then emailed me to say sorry it was a mistake to buy it. It's very frustrating indeed.
I get quite a few non-payers on ebay.
As for buying, well you will remember the problems I had with my Deep End print a couple of weeks ago...
It is very frustrating. I recently had a piece of art "bought" on ebay when the buyer, based in cyprus bought something from me on a BIN. He then emailed me to say sorry it was a mistake to buy it. It's very frustrating indeed.
I get quite a few non-payers on ebay.
As for buying, well you will remember the problems I had with my Deep End print a couple of weeks ago...
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by f5ers on Oct 31, 2007 10:42:43 GMT 1, Ahhh.. the Joys of eGay
Ahhh.. the Joys of eGay
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by dave313perry on Oct 31, 2007 10:43:18 GMT 1, Well im still waiting on a Ps3 - you wait till i happen to be passing through Northampton - or wherever it was!
Well im still waiting on a Ps3 - you wait till i happen to be passing through Northampton - or wherever it was!
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by howlinhooker on Oct 31, 2007 10:47:16 GMT 1, northampton im near there " BUT IT WASNT ME DAVE"
northampton im near there " BUT IT WASNT ME DAVE"
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by dave313perry on Oct 31, 2007 10:50:01 GMT 1, northampton im near there " BUT IT WASNT ME DAVE"
lol - im probably getting my wires crossed, was down south somewhere 
it still winds me up now!!!
northampton im near there " BUT IT WASNT ME DAVE" lol - im probably getting my wires crossed, was down south somewhere it still winds me up now!!! |
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by shogun on Oct 31, 2007 11:35:43 GMT 1, I must also say - look up Banksy on ebay - drill down to limited edition prints and its full of garbage. From A3 pictures to pictures of his stuff on the street (surely I can take a snap on a camera myself) the worst stuff are those dodgy 'repros'. I dont really mind seeing 'banksy stablemate' when people sell other pow stuff, but not when its a newbee artist with no originality in their work at all.
I must also say - look up Banksy on ebay - drill down to limited edition prints and its full of garbage. From A3 pictures to pictures of his stuff on the street (surely I can take a snap on a camera myself) the worst stuff are those dodgy 'repros'. I dont really mind seeing 'banksy stablemate' when people sell other pow stuff, but not when its a newbee artist with no originality in their work at all.
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romanywg
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by romanywg on Oct 31, 2007 11:52:23 GMT 1, It's no better on here sometimes. Recently I've gone to the trouble of emailing detailed pictures of prints to members that say they are really interested in something and I kindly ask that they let me know asap if they are interested and they don't even have the courtesy to reply.
It's no better on here sometimes. Recently I've gone to the trouble of emailing detailed pictures of prints to members that say they are really interested in something and I kindly ask that they let me know asap if they are interested and they don't even have the courtesy to reply.
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by spencerlee on Oct 31, 2007 12:09:27 GMT 1, Selling has been relatively stress free, but mainly because I have sold records and clothes rather than really high value items.
Few idiots though.
Buyer from America won something, all my auctions state clearly that overseas people MUST use Paypal. He contacted me and asked how to pay, and I responded politely telling him I only take Paypal. He was really shitty with me?!
Another who won something, would not respond to invoices or mails for a month, I relisted it, and 3 hours later (obviously he saw 'his' item when browsing) he got back in touch claiming he had been on holiday.
The best one was a non paying bidder, who bid on the exact same item he 'won' when I relisted it 6 weeks later.
I hate sellers who list clothes as brand new with tags, and when you get them seem to have been worn for by someone working in the messiest part of an abbatoir, but the original tags have pinned back on after 6 years.
Selling has been relatively stress free, but mainly because I have sold records and clothes rather than really high value items.
Few idiots though.
Buyer from America won something, all my auctions state clearly that overseas people MUST use Paypal. He contacted me and asked how to pay, and I responded politely telling him I only take Paypal. He was really shitty with me?!
Another who won something, would not respond to invoices or mails for a month, I relisted it, and 3 hours later (obviously he saw 'his' item when browsing) he got back in touch claiming he had been on holiday.
The best one was a non paying bidder, who bid on the exact same item he 'won' when I relisted it 6 weeks later.
I hate sellers who list clothes as brand new with tags, and when you get them seem to have been worn for by someone working in the messiest part of an abbatoir, but the original tags have pinned back on after 6 years.
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Harveyn
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by Harveyn on Oct 31, 2007 12:46:47 GMT 1, Okay
So the buyer who canceled their bid on my MW auction has come back to say
"Not really sure what your problem is, i do not have the money to pay after someone else let me down, it's either retract or not pay!"
My problem is don't bid if you cannot afford to pay for it in the 1st place.!!!!!!! Tw*t. I am so tempted to out this guy.
Whilst I have sold a few pieces lately to fund and facilitate my collection (mainly framed having been hung in my house) this guy in last month has sold GIWTBB, DOLK Teddy Girl X 2, Swoon Helena and Beejoir LV X2. I doubt they even got out of the tubes.....
Okay So the buyer who canceled their bid on my MW auction has come back to say "Not really sure what your problem is, i do not have the money to pay after someone else let me down, it's either retract or not pay!" My problem is don't bid if you cannot afford to pay for it in the 1st place.!!!!!!! Tw*t. I am so tempted to out this guy. Whilst I have sold a few pieces lately to fund and facilitate my collection (mainly framed having been hung in my house) this guy in last month has sold GIWTBB, DOLK Teddy Girl X 2, Swoon Helena and Beejoir LV X2. I doubt they even got out of the tubes..... |
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by jonpud on Oct 31, 2007 12:49:20 GMT 1, Nightmare!!!! Shame there are no takers on the forum Neil! 
Nightmare!!!! Shame there are no takers on the forum Neil! |
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by Harveyn on Oct 31, 2007 13:14:59 GMT 1, Hi Jon - Yeah I tried that 1st.
Anyway I would like to make one thing clear whilst I am not happy with this guy I do not want anybody taking any action. I did not give any of his details yet someone has just ruined one of his auctions.
I am not sure whether that was someone on this forum, and whilst the intentions might have been good I did not ask for this to be done and I would appreciate this not happening again.
Hi Jon - Yeah I tried that 1st.
Anyway I would like to make one thing clear whilst I am not happy with this guy I do not want anybody taking any action. I did not give any of his details yet someone has just ruined one of his auctions.
I am not sure whether that was someone on this forum, and whilst the intentions might have been good I did not ask for this to be done and I would appreciate this not happening again.
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by Run Pig Run on Oct 31, 2007 18:30:55 GMT 1, Hi Jon - Yeah I tried that 1st. Anyway I would like to make one thing clear whilst I am not happy with this guy I do not want anybody taking any action. I did not give any of his details yet someone has just ruined one of his auctions. I am not sure whether that was someone on this forum, and whilst the intentions might have been good I did not ask for this to be done and I would appreciate this not happening again.
too late i've just stabbed the t**t in the face with pickaxe. sorry.
Hi Jon - Yeah I tried that 1st. Anyway I would like to make one thing clear whilst I am not happy with this guy I do not want anybody taking any action. I did not give any of his details yet someone has just ruined one of his auctions. I am not sure whether that was someone on this forum, and whilst the intentions might have been good I did not ask for this to be done and I would appreciate this not happening again. too late i've just stabbed the t**t in the face with pickaxe. sorry. |
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by manty on Oct 31, 2007 18:51:43 GMT 1, Is this how wars start LOL :-)
Is this how wars start LOL :-)
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Philippe
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by Philippe on Nov 1, 2007 10:52:17 GMT 1, That Mintaur Weapon is really a stunning print in person! I would have to say that its the cleanest of the 3 runs of 50. The shades of red in the dress and the blue in the sneakers are a really appealing contrast to the eye. My favorite part are the shades from the charcoal in the face and the weapons! Good luck with your sale its sad you have to let her go.
From personal experience I despise bidders who cant afford what they bid on, makes no sense to me. It's like what you really think your gonna get a better price somewhere else if you retract your bid and try again...then why would you bid in the first place.
That Mintaur Weapon is really a stunning print in person! I would have to say that its the cleanest of the 3 runs of 50. The shades of red in the dress and the blue in the sneakers are a really appealing contrast to the eye. My favorite part are the shades from the charcoal in the face and the weapons! Good luck with your sale its sad you have to let her go.
From personal experience I despise bidders who cant afford what they bid on, makes no sense to me. It's like what you really think your gonna get a better price somewhere else if you retract your bid and try again...then why would you bid in the first place.
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by Harveyn on Nov 1, 2007 12:42:39 GMT 1, Thanks Dank One - Yeah I have decided to keep it for the mean time. I have moved most of my collection to originals and this is the only piece I do not have framed. It might just make the walls.
Thanks for the neg by the way. Usual lurker with no b*lls. As this and the Charidee threads are the only ones I have posted in lately I am guessing its this. Although maybe somebody has a problem with raising money of a Children Hospice (it would not surprise me!!!)
Thanks Dank One - Yeah I have decided to keep it for the mean time. I have moved most of my collection to originals and this is the only piece I do not have framed. It might just make the walls.
Thanks for the neg by the way. Usual lurker with no b*lls. As this and the Charidee threads are the only ones I have posted in lately I am guessing its this. Although maybe somebody has a problem with raising money of a Children Hospice (it would not surprise me!!!)
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by rolyateel on Nov 1, 2007 12:56:59 GMT 1, my latest episode on ebay is totally unrelated to art, but really pissed me off
been looking to buy a laptop.
found one i liked in pc world for ยฃ720
thought I'd check ebay.
One listed for ยฃ599 +ยฃ9 shipping.
thought - "excellent"
bought it with buy-it-now
then I go to pay...upon which i find that the prices were excl VAT
so the price is now ยฃ714.40
then I go read the auction again, and find in small print that the auction is excl VAT.
how can this be acceptable?
surely the price you bid, is the price you pay???
Grrrrr!
anyway, he can stick his laptop up his hole, I'll risk the negative feedback.
my latest episode on ebay is totally unrelated to art, but really pis sed me off been looking to buy a laptop. found one i liked in pc world for ยฃ720 thought I'd check ebay. One listed for ยฃ599 +ยฃ9 shipping. thought - "excellent" bought it with buy-it-now then I go to pay...upon which i find that the prices were excl VAT so the price is now ยฃ714.40 then I go read the auction again, and find in small print that the auction is excl VAT. how can this be acceptable? surely the price you bid, is the price you pay??? Grrrrr! anyway, he can stick his laptop up his hole, I'll risk the negative feedback. |
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by arcam on Nov 1, 2007 13:09:24 GMT 1, I'd report it to ebay I am pretty sure that's not allowed as he's circumventing fees. So you'll have every right to back out.
I'd report it to ebay I am pretty sure that's not allowed as he's circumventing fees. So you'll have every right to back out.
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by dumpsuk on Nov 1, 2007 16:48:12 GMT 1, ebay is full of fu*king criminals. (thats a full stop)
ebay is full of fu*king criminals. (thats a full stop)
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by trebor on Nov 1, 2007 16:50:42 GMT 1, Flipping your Micallef already?
Flipping your Micallef already?
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Run Pig Run
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by Run Pig Run on Nov 1, 2007 17:12:11 GMT 1, my latest episode on ebay is totally unrelated to art, but really pis sed me off been looking to buy a laptop. found one i liked in pc world for ยฃ720 thought I'd check ebay. One listed for ยฃ599 +ยฃ9 shipping. thought - "excellent" bought it with buy-it-now then I go to pay...upon which i find that the prices were excl VAT so the price is now ยฃ714.40 then I go read the auction again, and find in small print that the auction is excl VAT. how can this be acceptable? surely the price you bid, is the price you pay??? Grrrrr! anyway, he can stick his laptop up his hole, I'll risk the negative feedback.
you'd still save ยฃ5.60 though.
my latest episode on ebay is totally unrelated to art, but really pis sed me off been looking to buy a laptop. found one i liked in pc world for ยฃ720 thought I'd check ebay. One listed for ยฃ599 +ยฃ9 shipping. thought - "excellent" bought it with buy-it-now then I go to pay...upon which i find that the prices were excl VAT so the price is now ยฃ714.40 then I go read the auction again, and find in small print that the auction is excl VAT. how can this be acceptable? surely the price you bid, is the price you pay??? Grrrrr! anyway, he can stick his laptop up his hole, I'll risk the negative feedback. you'd still save ยฃ5.60 though. |
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by Imoy-San on Nov 3, 2007 10:37:16 GMT 1, Someone has just pulled out of my auction, leaving me with a ยฃ45 Ebay fee!
Someone has just pulled out of my auction, leaving me with a ยฃ45 Ebay fee!
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by Richard on Nov 3, 2007 12:33:55 GMT 1, eBay is not full of Crooks at all - most eBayers are just normal honest people.
To protect yourself list items with Immediate Payment Required - this means the auction won't end until the buyer has paid with PayPal. Also block sellers from other countries from bidding - this should stop you getting Nigerian scammers etc.
Also, if someone wins then doesn't pay you should get all your fees back from eBay - or you can relist it and you will get your previous fees credited (I think!)
Hope this helps!
eBay is not full of Crooks at all - most eBayers are just normal honest people.
To protect yourself list items with Immediate Payment Required - this means the auction won't end until the buyer has paid with PayPal. Also block sellers from other countries from bidding - this should stop you getting Nigerian scammers etc.
Also, if someone wins then doesn't pay you should get all your fees back from eBay - or you can relist it and you will get your previous fees credited (I think!)
Hope this helps!
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by snakes on Nov 3, 2007 13:00:34 GMT 1, Someone has just pulled out of my auction, leaving me with a ยฃ45 Ebay fee!
Yomster,
this may or may not help in getting your fees back, but could benefit someone
(my scenario was with the buyer deciding after they paid that they had bought the wrong item, likely story eh!:-
Hello gorgeous snakes,
Thank you for writing back to us regarding "t**t features" who is asking for
a refund for the 'amazing item' you sold (item 1801722123456) as they don't need the it. I
appreciate the chance to assist you with this.
As the buyer paid for the item, you are eligible for a Final Value Fee
credit as long as you refund your buyer's entire payment using the
"Refund Payment" option in PayPal. Here's how to do that:
1. Sign in to My eBay and find the item you sold.
2. In the "Action" drop-down menu next to the item, select "View PayPal
Payment".
3. Log in to PayPal.
4. Scroll down to the bottom of the next page and click the "Refund
Payment" link. Follow the onscreen instructions to complete the refund.
If you didn't refund the buyer exactly as above, you're not eligible for
a Final Value Fee Credit.
You can apply for a Final Value Fee credit once you have refunded the
buyer's PayPal payment, you can apply for a Final Value Fee credit by
filing an Unpaid Item dispute. To file a dispute, click on "Dispute
Console" in My eBay then follow the on-screen instructions.
Filing the dispute triggers an email to the buyer to ask them to confirm
that you have both agreed to withdraw from the sale. Please note that if
the buyer rejects the mutual withdrawal, you won't get a Final Value Fee
credit.
As soon as the buyer confirms the mutual withdrawal, you can close the
dispute and claim a credit for your Final Value Fee. You must do this
within 60 days of the end of the listing. Open disputes close
automatically 60 days after the end of the listing without a credit.
If the buyer doesn't respond within seven days, you can close the
dispute and claim a credit, and the buyer will receive an Unpaid Item
Strike.
For more detailed information on Unpaid Item Disputes, and for links to
the Dispute Console, please copy the following link into a new browser
window:
pages.ebay.co.uk/help/tp/unpaid-item-process.html
Most gorgeous snakes, I'm sorry your eBay sale hasn't been successful this time. I wish
you luck with buying and selling on eBay in the future.
Kind regards,
Albert Saunders
eBay Trust & Safety
Someone has just pulled out of my auction, leaving me with a ยฃ45 Ebay fee! Yomster, this may or may not help in getting your fees back, but could benefit someone (my scenario was with the buyer deciding after they paid that they had bought the wrong item, likely story eh!:- Hello gorgeous snakes, Thank you for writing back to us regarding "t**t features" who is asking for a refund for the 'amazing item' you sold (item 1801722123456) as they don't need the it. I appreciate the chance to assist you with this. As the buyer paid for the item, you are eligible for a Final Value Fee credit as long as you refund your buyer's entire payment using the "Refund Payment" option in PayPal. Here's how to do that: 1. Sign in to My eBay and find the item you sold. 2. In the "Action" drop-down menu next to the item, select "View PayPal Payment". 3. Log in to PayPal. 4. Scroll down to the bottom of the next page and click the "Refund Payment" link. Follow the onscreen instructions to complete the refund. If you didn't refund the buyer exactly as above, you're not eligible for a Final Value Fee Credit. You can apply for a Final Value Fee credit once you have refunded the buyer's PayPal payment, you can apply for a Final Value Fee credit by filing an Unpaid Item dispute. To file a dispute, click on "Dispute Console" in My eBay then follow the on-screen instructions. Filing the dispute triggers an email to the buyer to ask them to confirm that you have both agreed to withdraw from the sale. Please note that if the buyer rejects the mutual withdrawal, you won't get a Final Value Fee credit. As soon as the buyer confirms the mutual withdrawal, you can close the dispute and claim a credit for your Final Value Fee. You must do this within 60 days of the end of the listing. Open disputes close automatically 60 days after the end of the listing without a credit. If the buyer doesn't respond within seven days, you can close the dispute and claim a credit, and the buyer will receive an Unpaid Item Strike. For more detailed information on Unpaid Item Disputes, and for links to the Dispute Console, please copy the following link into a new browser window: pages.ebay.co.uk/help/tp/unpaid-item-process.html Most gorgeous snakes, I'm sorry your eBay sale hasn't been successful this time. I wish you luck with buying and selling on eBay in the future. Kind regards, Albert Saunders eBay Trust & Safety |
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Ebay Ranttttttttttttttttttt, by Dead Elvis on Nov 3, 2007 16:45:58 GMT 1, My problem isn't necessarily with ebay, it's with paypal. I've been scammed 3 different ways this year, which has cost me around $400...
My problem isn't necessarily with ebay, it's with paypal. I've been scammed 3 different ways this year, which has cost me around $400...
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