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What we always wanted?, by johnas on Oct 30, 2007 20:04:53 GMT 1, This is a Poll: How do you feel about the larger signed edition runs?
The last 2 releases by POW (Banksy & Micallef) have seen pretty large signed runs, 750 & 1000 respectively. Even POW themselves said at the time of the Micallef release "We've printed a thousand of them because Antony wants to flood the market and devalue the print so it's more 'available'."
I think this is a bold but brilliant move. Only a few months ago people were getting stressed and angry at the value of the secondary market, ultimately pricing collectors/buyers/fans (delete as appropriate) out of the market. When tackled on here, suggestions included unlimited editions and larger signed runs to name but a few.
How do people feel now that POW seem to be taking this route? Does it spoil it for you? Are you just happy that finally you get that signed Banksy on your wall? Should it matter at all if it's only the art you're interested in? have you lost some interest in these artists now, as their investment potential from here on isn't what is was?
I'm not interested in starting another debate about flippers or value - I generally want to know how people honestly feel about these larger additions. Good or bad thing?
And let me add people, lets please hold off the negging if someone doesn't agree with you. If you honestly feel that it's ruined the 'kudos' of collecting, then please say so!
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This is a Poll: How do you feel about the larger signed edition runs?
The last 2 releases by POW (Banksy & Micallef) have seen pretty large signed runs, 750 & 1000 respectively. Even POW themselves said at the time of the Micallef release "We've printed a thousand of them because Antony wants to flood the market and devalue the print so it's more 'available'."
I think this is a bold but brilliant move. Only a few months ago people were getting stressed and angry at the value of the secondary market, ultimately pricing collectors/buyers/fans (delete as appropriate) out of the market. When tackled on here, suggestions included unlimited editions and larger signed runs to name but a few.
How do people feel now that POW seem to be taking this route? Does it spoil it for you? Are you just happy that finally you get that signed Banksy on your wall? Should it matter at all if it's only the art you're interested in? have you lost some interest in these artists now, as their investment potential from here on isn't what is was?
I'm not interested in starting another debate about flippers or value - I generally want to know how people honestly feel about these larger additions. Good or bad thing?
And let me add people, lets please hold off the negging if someone doesn't agree with you. If you honestly feel that it's ruined the 'kudos' of collecting, then please say so!
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What we always wanted?, by finsburyparkranger on Oct 30, 2007 20:12:10 GMT 1, Yeah its a good thing. Saying that i have my suspicions that 'sale ends' will be the last of the mass signed editions. This is the sale. I think It will be mass unsigned edition from there on in.
Yeah its a good thing. Saying that i have my suspicions that 'sale ends' will be the last of the mass signed editions. This is the sale. I think It will be mass unsigned edition from there on in.
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What we always wanted?, by daz205 on Oct 30, 2007 20:12:17 GMT 1, i think pow got it right with this release a large edition of coloured trolleys all signed ( as requested on here, remeber the debates about the bw la version and the original ) cheaply as well (they could have charged 1k and had the same response) as we all requested on here, and a small signed edition of 150 for the collectors which is massively collectable
spot on i say shame about protex
i think pow got it right with this release a large edition of coloured trolleys all signed ( as requested on here, remeber the debates about the bw la version and the original ) cheaply as well (they could have charged 1k and had the same response) as we all requested on here, and a small signed edition of 150 for the collectors which is massively collectable
spot on i say shame about protex
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thwaites
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What we always wanted?, by thwaites on Oct 30, 2007 20:25:32 GMT 1, Yeah its a good thing. Saying that i have my suspicions that 'sale ends' will be the last of the mass signed editions. This is the sale. I think It will be mass unsigned edition from there on in.
I agree, although I think we might get an unlimited edition print (unlike soup cans poster) in the future, to enable everyone to own a Banksy
Yeah its a good thing. Saying that i have my suspicions that 'sale ends' will be the last of the mass signed editions. This is the sale. I think It will be mass unsigned edition from there on in. I agree, although I think we might get an unlimited edition print (unlike soup cans poster) in the future, to enable everyone to own a Banksy |
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What we always wanted?, by paulah on Oct 30, 2007 20:28:15 GMT 1, I think it was spot on - just the right way to do it.
I think it was spot on - just the right way to do it.
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What we always wanted?, by absyrd on Oct 30, 2007 20:38:12 GMT 1, I think it is just meeting the needs of an increasing pool of fans.
I think it is just meeting the needs of an increasing pool of fans.
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What we always wanted?, by corblimeylimey on Oct 30, 2007 20:46:02 GMT 1, Yep, good thing.
(still couldn't get one though)
Yep, good thing.
(still couldn't get one though)
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What we always wanted?, by bombshelter on Oct 30, 2007 21:00:37 GMT 1, Yeah i think its a very good thing, this way people who can't afford a signed banksy on ebay , stand a better chance getting one of POW at a lower price 
Yeah i think its a very good thing, this way people who can't afford a signed banksy on ebay , stand a better chance getting one of POW at a lower price |
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What we always wanted?, by RBK on Oct 30, 2007 21:19:07 GMT 1, I think POW did a great job, released a the right number of prints, priced them very favorably (they could have charged much more), and their website didn't crash. You can't blame them for the Protx failing.
That being said... I didn't get one and I'm still very sad 
I think POW did a great job, released a the right number of prints, priced them very favorably (they could have charged much more), and their website didn't crash. You can't blame them for the Protx failing. That being said... I didn't get one and I'm still very sad |
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What we always wanted?, by tokyojeff on Oct 31, 2007 3:53:26 GMT 1, I missed this one as well, but with the recent print runs, it's much more affordable on the secondary market where unfortunatley I usually have to buy from (and my friendly forum members). Seems artisits are recognizing that many of the true fans are missing out and are trying to do something about it. Don't cross D Choe, he'll find you
I missed this one as well, but with the recent print runs, it's much more affordable on the secondary market where unfortunatley I usually have to buy from (and my friendly forum members). Seems artisits are recognizing that many of the true fans are missing out and are trying to do something about it. Don't cross D Choe, he'll find you |
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What we always wanted?, by BK83 on Oct 31, 2007 4:19:03 GMT 1, Yes. Truly a great idea. And what's more is that it doesn't effect their staying power in the slightest. It may have a small effect on the prices in the short term, but the long term wont be affected. Picasso and Warhol's body of work is massive -- MASSIVE! and they're work is no less valuable because so.
SO yeh. I definately think this is a good idea for the artists to reach their fans.
Yes. Truly a great idea. And what's more is that it doesn't effect their staying power in the slightest. It may have a small effect on the prices in the short term, but the long term wont be affected. Picasso and Warhol's body of work is massive -- MASSIVE! and they're work is no less valuable because so.
SO yeh. I definately think this is a good idea for the artists to reach their fans.
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What we always wanted?, by Filipino Box Spring Hog on Oct 31, 2007 4:21:42 GMT 1, Audrey Kawasaki is doing an interesting thing with her new print release - $100 u.s. - have a window of one hour to email her for the print - when the hour is up - all prints will be spoken for - so, it's a limited edition but, hopefully, everyone who wants one will get one and yes, the edition size will be large but, many many folks will be satisfied.
Large print editions are great for the new collectors and for the old collectors alike -
Audrey Kawasaki is doing an interesting thing with her new print release - $100 u.s. - have a window of one hour to email her for the print - when the hour is up - all prints will be spoken for - so, it's a limited edition but, hopefully, everyone who wants one will get one and yes, the edition size will be large but, many many folks will be satisfied.
Large print editions are great for the new collectors and for the old collectors alike -
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What we always wanted?, by wlsp4657 on Oct 31, 2007 4:49:15 GMT 1, I think it is a good this as it allows the fans to finally get a signed Banksy. But I don't know if it was the right move for the future. I think Banksy needs to look into the future, if he really wants the be the icon he is capable of becoming, then these large editions are going to hurt him, and devalue his work. And trust me all the gallerys and collectors are concerned about this as well. I think he either needs to stop making prints and stick to the streets, or he needs to come out and flip the art world on its head, with massive expensive sales, just like Hirst and Jeff Koons have done. I think if he continues to produce these large runs people will slowly lose interest.. its sad, but I really fear this might happen.
I think it is a good this as it allows the fans to finally get a signed Banksy. But I don't know if it was the right move for the future. I think Banksy needs to look into the future, if he really wants the be the icon he is capable of becoming, then these large editions are going to hurt him, and devalue his work. And trust me all the gallerys and collectors are concerned about this as well. I think he either needs to stop making prints and stick to the streets, or he needs to come out and flip the art world on its head, with massive expensive sales, just like Hirst and Jeff Koons have done. I think if he continues to produce these large runs people will slowly lose interest.. its sad, but I really fear this might happen.
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What we always wanted?, by stuey09 on Oct 31, 2007 8:58:18 GMT 1, I think it is a good this as it allows the fans to finally get a signed Banksy. But I don't know if it was the right move for the future. I think Banksy needs to look into the future, if he really wants the be the icon he is capable of becoming, then these large editions are going to hurt him, and devalue his work. And trust me all the gallerys and collectors are concerned about this as well. I think he either needs to stop making prints and stick to the streets, or he needs to come out and flip the art world on its head, with massive expensive sales, just like Hirst and Jeff Koons have done. I think if he continues to produce these large runs people will slowly lose interest.. its sad, but I really fear this might happen.
Have you ever concidered that Banksy's aim is not to become an 'icon' especially through commercial sales? I'm sure the sale of his art is great as it gives him financial security, but it is Banksy's street art that gives him his status.
I think it is a good this as it allows the fans to finally get a signed Banksy. But I don't know if it was the right move for the future. I think Banksy needs to look into the future, if he really wants the be the icon he is capable of becoming, then these large editions are going to hurt him, and devalue his work. And trust me all the gallerys and collectors are concerned about this as well. I think he either needs to stop making prints and stick to the streets, or he needs to come out and flip the art world on its head, with massive expensive sales, just like Hirst and Jeff Koons have done. I think if he continues to produce these large runs people will slowly lose interest.. its sad, but I really fear this might happen. Have you ever concidered that Banksy's aim is not to become an 'icon' especially through commercial sales? I'm sure the sale of his art is great as it gives him financial security, but it is Banksy's street art that gives him his status. |
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