jfury
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by jfury on Oct 18, 2007 13:58:23 GMT 1, It seems that they do when they are about to put up a print, but not all the time
....how do you know that...another email or you spoke to Dora? 
It seems that they do when they are about to put up a print, but not all the time ....how do you know that...another email or you spoke to Dora? |
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artcritic
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by artcritic on Oct 18, 2007 14:01:41 GMT 1, I was forwarded an e-mail, then spoke to her, she did not seem to understand the concept, just what she had been told I suppose
I was forwarded an e-mail, then spoke to her, she did not seem to understand the concept, just what she had been told I suppose
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spirit
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by spirit on Oct 18, 2007 14:01:55 GMT 1, I'm a government information security consultant - near impossible and highy improbable, another load of bollocks from POW.
are you really Malcolm from spooks ;D
I'm a government information security consultant - near impossible and highy improbable, another load of bollocks from POW. are you really Malcolm from spooks ;D |
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jfury
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by jfury on Oct 18, 2007 14:04:06 GMT 1, I was forwarded an e-mail, then spoke to her, she did not seem to understand the concept, just what she had been told I suppose
fair enough
I was forwarded an e-mail, then spoke to her, she did not seem to understand the concept, just what she had been told I suppose fair enough |
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dotdot
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by dotdot on Oct 18, 2007 14:04:11 GMT 1, I for one can say this is totally possible.
You have a web page.
You have an impression downloaded to a user. (as updated in the log for http).They're using IIS i think.
You scan for thier ip address - log it.
Then later you run a report on who accessed the page.
You then filter out the big hitters.
Update your config to disallow them from accessing the page.
..review later - notice less traffic to site.
Run report - confirm less 'big hitters'.
Review after a few weeks and possibly - yes possibly - turn off software.
..Not really surprised people - honestly are we ?
We all agree they HAD to do something. This will help make the process fairer. Making those who are lucky - just that.
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I for one can say this is totally possible.
You have a web page.
You have an impression downloaded to a user. (as updated in the log for http).They're using IIS i think.
You scan for thier ip address - log it.
Then later you run a report on who accessed the page.
You then filter out the big hitters.
Update your config to disallow them from accessing the page.
..review later - notice less traffic to site.
Run report - confirm less 'big hitters'.
Review after a few weeks and possibly - yes possibly - turn off software.
..Not really surprised people - honestly are we ?
We all agree they HAD to do something. This will help make the process fairer. Making those who are lucky - just that.
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by paulypaul on Oct 18, 2007 14:07:36 GMT 1, I for one can say this is totally possible. You have a web page. You have an impression downloaded to a user. (as updated in the log for http).They're using IIS i think. You scan for thier ip address - log it. Then later you run a report on who accessed the page. You then filter out the big hitters. Update your config to disallow them from accessing the page. ..review later - notice less traffic to site. Run report - confirm less 'big hitters'. Review after a few weeks and possibly - yes possibly - turn off software. ..Not really surprised people - honestly are we ? We all agree they HAD to do something. This will help make the process fairer. Making those who are lucky - just that. ..
So - the people who don't get the prints are the people that have invested the most time and resource in getting one...? I hear Laz are doing the same sort of thing - if you travel to the gallery and queue in shit conditions you don't get a print.
Oh, they already did that..
I for one can say this is totally possible. You have a web page. You have an impression downloaded to a user. (as updated in the log for http).They're using IIS i think. You scan for thier ip address - log it. Then later you run a report on who accessed the page. You then filter out the big hitters. Update your config to disallow them from accessing the page. ..review later - notice less traffic to site. Run report - confirm less 'big hitters'. Review after a few weeks and possibly - yes possibly - turn off software. ..Not really surprised people - honestly are we ? We all agree they HAD to do something. This will help make the process fairer. Making those who are lucky - just that. .. So - the people who don't get the prints are the people that have invested the most time and resource in getting one...? I hear Laz are doing the same sort of thing - if you travel to the gallery and queue in shit conditions you don't get a print. Oh, they already did that.. |
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ยฎat
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by ยฎat on Oct 18, 2007 14:08:10 GMT 1, By saying this, they have now alerted people using such software to now go via a proxy...
More smoke and mirrors bollocks.
How about buying less booze/drugs and buying a decent server, and just releasing the fucking print... its been a year FFS
By saying this, they have now alerted people using such software to now go via a proxy... More smoke and mirrors bollocks. How about buying less booze/drugs and buying a decent server, and just releasing the fucking print... its been a year FFS |
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by Daniel Silk on Oct 18, 2007 14:11:32 GMT 1, This is POW we are talking about!  Its Shoreditch, not Area 51 ;D
This is POW we are talking about! Its Shoreditch, not Area 51 ;D |
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by fasteddie on Oct 18, 2007 14:11:48 GMT 1, I'm on a 100 Mbit line and I get ip numbers within a certain range. I think the range is for the flats in my building. So if I was hammering their site they could ban the ip number range. But if you're on ADSL and connected to a big ISP it would be almost impossible to ban you as you easily could get a new IP from a very big range.
They could also use cookies to track and ban a computer. Not a problem to delete for a user, but a lot of people would'nt know the reason or the solution for the ban.
I'm on a 100 Mbit line and I get ip numbers within a certain range. I think the range is for the flats in my building. So if I was hammering their site they could ban the ip number range. But if you're on ADSL and connected to a big ISP it would be almost impossible to ban you as you easily could get a new IP from a very big range.
They could also use cookies to track and ban a computer. Not a problem to delete for a user, but a lot of people would'nt know the reason or the solution for the ban.
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Michael Jacob
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by Michael Jacob on Oct 18, 2007 14:11:55 GMT 1, i think its crap! if its such an issue, why dont they just do the lottery like they mentioned upteen months ago. that would settle everything.
i think its crap! if its such an issue, why dont they just do the lottery like they mentioned upteen months ago. that would settle everything.
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Cocteau 101
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by Cocteau 101 on Oct 18, 2007 14:12:13 GMT 1, It possible but requires a degree of configuration and anyway if you unplug your router you'll get a new dynamic ip plus a lot of people will be accessing from a proxy with network address translation.
Also if that is so do we really want to fucking about with POW anymore, it's becoming a nonsense all these bizarre tactics.
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It possible but requires a degree of configuration and anyway if you unplug your router you'll get a new dynamic ip plus a lot of people will be accessing from a proxy with network address translation.
Also if that is so do we really want to fucking about with POW anymore, it's becoming a nonsense all these bizarre tactics.
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by carlito on Oct 18, 2007 14:12:38 GMT 1, ? how in practice would this work? How would you decide who has has looked too many times prior to a release? If a release comes out, the server goes down and everyone f5's for a couple of hours till it comes back are they all banned?
call me a cynic but this is just a well crafted ruse to make people think twice about how they check....
? how in practice would this work? How would you decide who has has looked too many times prior to a release? If a release comes out, the server goes down and everyone f5's for a couple of hours till it comes back are they all banned?
call me a cynic but this is just a well crafted ruse to make people think twice about how they check....
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Cocteau 101
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by Cocteau 101 on Oct 18, 2007 14:13:17 GMT 1, I'm on a 100 Mbit line and I get ip numbers within a certain range. I think the range is for the flats in my building. So if I was hammering their site they could ban the ip number range. But if you're on ADSL and connected to a big ISP it would be almost impossible to ban you as you easily could get a new IP from a very big range. They could also use cookies to track and ban a computer. Not a problem to delete for a user, but a lot of people would'nt know the reason or the solution for the ban.
You jammy bastard!
I'm on a 100 Mbit line and I get ip numbers within a certain range. I think the range is for the flats in my building. So if I was hammering their site they could ban the ip number range. But if you're on ADSL and connected to a big ISP it would be almost impossible to ban you as you easily could get a new IP from a very big range. They could also use cookies to track and ban a computer. Not a problem to delete for a user, but a lot of people would'nt know the reason or the solution for the ban. You jammy bastard! |
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by mcnuts on Oct 18, 2007 14:14:39 GMT 1, i think its crap! if its such an issue, why dont they just do the lottery like they mentioned upteen months ago. that would settle everything.
Or.....as wild alternative to site monitoring software and a way of preventing it, they could just give a date for big releases. A date and the correct time (god help them if they do the release after the clocks go back). I know, I know, a radical idea and perhaps too 20th century. But it may catch on.
i think its crap! if its such an issue, why dont they just do the lottery like they mentioned upteen months ago. that would settle everything. Or.....as wild alternative to site monitoring software and a way of preventing it, they could just give a date for big releases. A date and the correct time (god help them if they do the release after the clocks go back). I know, I know, a radical idea and perhaps too 20th century. But it may catch on. |
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cloudnine
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by cloudnine on Oct 18, 2007 14:14:58 GMT 1, I'm on a 100 Mbit line and I get ip numbers within a certain range. I think the range is for the flats in my building. So if I was hammering their site they could ban the ip number range. But if you're on ADSL and connected to a big ISP it would be almost impossible to ban you as you easily could get a new IP from a very big range. They could also use cookies to track and ban a computer. Not a problem to delete for a user, but a lot of people would'nt know the reason or the solution for the ban.
Holy shitto.. i thought you only got speeds like that in japan
I'm on a 100 Mbit line and I get ip numbers within a certain range. I think the range is for the flats in my building. So if I was hammering their site they could ban the ip number range. But if you're on ADSL and connected to a big ISP it would be almost impossible to ban you as you easily could get a new IP from a very big range. They could also use cookies to track and ban a computer. Not a problem to delete for a user, but a lot of people would'nt know the reason or the solution for the ban. Holy shitto.. i thought you only got speeds like that in japan |
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by themightyreds on Oct 18, 2007 14:16:03 GMT 1, This all sounds like a bunch of baloney to me...
If its true then why not put it on the homepage?
This all sounds like a bunch of baloney to me...
If its true then why not put it on the homepage?
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dmandpenfold
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by dmandpenfold on Oct 18, 2007 14:16:27 GMT 1, where's artcritic gone, new member today, puts the cat amongst the pidgeons and then buggers off....
where's artcritic gone, new member today, puts the cat amongst the pidgeons and then buggers off....
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dotdot
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by dotdot on Oct 18, 2007 14:16:37 GMT 1, By saying this, they have now alerted people using such software to now go via a proxy... More smoke and mirrors bollocks. How about buying less booze/drugs and buying a decent server, and just releasing the f**king print... its been a year FFS
The software at this stage if it's worth it's salt will - yes spot this as well.
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- check this out toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.picturesonwalls.com
By saying this, they have now alerted people using such software to now go via a proxy... More smoke and mirrors bollocks. How about buying less booze/drugs and buying a decent server, and just releasing the f**king print... its been a year FFS The software at this stage if it's worth it's salt will - yes spot this as well. .. - check this out toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.picturesonwalls.com |
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spencerlee
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by spencerlee on Oct 18, 2007 14:17:53 GMT 1, This all sounds like a bunch of baloney to me... If its true then why not put it on the homepage?
Because everyone rushing to see the message would probably bring the server down......
This all sounds like a bunch of baloney to me... If its true then why not put it on the homepage? Because everyone rushing to see the message would probably bring the server down...... |
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artcritic
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by artcritic on Oct 18, 2007 14:18:04 GMT 1, Sorry been for a cuppa, as for 100Mbps that will only be the internal network speed, gigabit technology is used in many networks nowadays, his external bandwidth will be less. Most new routers/switches are gigabit, it just means using duplex cabling (all the canbles strands in a standard network cable instead of just two pair)
Sorry been for a cuppa, as for 100Mbps that will only be the internal network speed, gigabit technology is used in many networks nowadays, his external bandwidth will be less. Most new routers/switches are gigabit, it just means using duplex cabling (all the canbles strands in a standard network cable instead of just two pair)
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frank11
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by frank11 on Oct 18, 2007 14:20:36 GMT 1, i think its crap! if its such an issue, why dont they just do the lottery like they mentioned upteen months ago. that would settle everything. Or.....as wild alternative to site monitoring software and a way of preventing it, they could just give a date for big releases. A date and the correct time (god help them if they do the release after the clocks go back). I know, I know, a radical idea and perhaps too 20th century. But it may catch on.
Stop it with these crazy ideas!!
i think its crap! if its such an issue, why dont they just do the lottery like they mentioned upteen months ago. that would settle everything. Or.....as wild alternative to site monitoring software and a way of preventing it, they could just give a date for big releases. A date and the correct time (god help them if they do the release after the clocks go back). I know, I know, a radical idea and perhaps too 20th century. But it may catch on. Stop it with these crazy ideas!! |
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by insite on Oct 18, 2007 14:22:19 GMT 1, So in a nutshell, a "new member" who knows the way we talk here and that we're all here today for trollies has enough of an in to not only talk to POW in person but to be the only one to get a mail so we all panic and stop checking the site 
I smell fish
So in a nutshell, a "new member" who knows the way we talk here and that we're all here today for trollies has enough of an in to not only talk to POW in person but to be the only one to get a mail so we all panic and stop checking the site I smell fish |
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cloudnine
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by cloudnine on Oct 18, 2007 14:22:52 GMT 1, I just pressed F5 100 times in a row.. I haven't been sent to the headmsters office yet
I just pressed F5 100 times in a row.. I haven't been sent to the headmsters office yet
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njr911
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by njr911 on Oct 18, 2007 14:25:06 GMT 1,
Sorry, I had kippers for breakfast 
Sorry, I had kippers for breakfast |
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by speebe on Oct 18, 2007 14:25:11 GMT 1, It seems absurd to block people that just want to invest in something you're selling, and have advertised the sale in such a vague fashion.
They can't start blocking people that F5 in desperation because they want one print... and who all know that the site does crash, the only sure fire tactic to obtaining a print is to keep refreshing.
It's ridiculous notion.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you POW.
It seems absurd to block people that just want to invest in something you're selling, and have advertised the sale in such a vague fashion.
They can't start blocking people that F5 in desperation because they want one print... and who all know that the site does crash, the only sure fire tactic to obtaining a print is to keep refreshing.
It's ridiculous notion.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you POW.
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peasant
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by peasant on Oct 18, 2007 14:26:23 GMT 1, so EVERYONE who wants a print is banned from getting one. they're asking us all to pop on the site when we've received the email? hmm.... I'll take my chances with a little bit of refreshing.
Me too...not least because the last two releases were notified by email after they had sold out.
Why don't POW just say when they are going to release a print, then we'll all leave them alone until the time....dead simple...no need for secret squirrel tactics. If they were better organised they wouldn't have these problems.IMO
so EVERYONE who wants a print is banned from getting one. they're asking us all to pop on the site when we've received the email? hmm.... I'll take my chances with a little bit of refreshing. Me too...not least because the last two releases were notified by email after they had sold out. Why don't POW just say when they are going to release a print, then we'll all leave them alone until the time....dead simple...no need for secret squirrel tactics. If they were better organised they wouldn't have these problems.IMO |
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artcritic
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by artcritic on Oct 18, 2007 14:26:28 GMT 1, You have been given the info, its up to you what you do with it or whether you believe it? you have been warned!
You have been given the info, its up to you what you do with it or whether you believe it? you have been warned!
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by fasteddie on Oct 18, 2007 14:33:15 GMT 1, Holy s**tto.. i thought you only got speeds like that in japan
...and Sweden
Holy s**tto.. i thought you only got speeds like that in japan ...and Sweden |
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IP Tracking and Server spamming, by corblimeylimey on Oct 18, 2007 14:33:20 GMT 1, so EVERYONE who wants a print is banned from getting one. they're asking us all to pop on the site when we've received the email? hmm.... I'll take my chances with a little bit of refreshing. Me too...not least because the last two releases were notified by email after they had sold out. Why don't POW just say when they are going to release a print, then we'll all leave them alone until the time....dead simple...no need for secret squirrel tactics. If they were better organised they wouldn't have these problems.IMO
Exactly!
They give us no idea when a release will happen and THEY ASK US to keep checking the site, their email is useless cos they've sold out by time it arrives.
If they gave an exact time and date for all the releases that month at the beginning of the month (perhaps with pics of the prints and prices) and actually released at those times they'd be no need for all this F5ing and site monitoring etc.
so EVERYONE who wants a print is banned from getting one. they're asking us all to pop on the site when we've received the email? hmm.... I'll take my chances with a little bit of refreshing. Me too...not least because the last two releases were notified by email after they had sold out. Why don't POW just say when they are going to release a print, then we'll all leave them alone until the time....dead simple...no need for secret squirrel tactics. If they were better organised they wouldn't have these problems.IMO Exactly! They give us no idea when a release will happen and THEY ASK US to keep checking the site, their email is useless cos they've sold out by time it arrives. If they gave an exact time and date for all the releases that month at the beginning of the month (perhaps with pics of the prints and prices) and actually released at those times they'd be no need for all this F5ing and site monitoring etc. |
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I dont think so 
Its Shoreditch, not Area 51 ;D
