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Turned off by Giclée, by ThursdayFeeling on Jun 8, 2007 11:38:57 GMT 1, Possible over reaction but it sends shudders down my spine when is see the word.
Feels too processed...........I supposed I should lighten up and look to the future.
Possible over reaction but it sends shudders down my spine when is see the word.
Feels too processed...........I supposed I should lighten up and look to the future.
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Adamski
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Turned off by Giclée, by Adamski on Jun 8, 2007 11:41:43 GMT 1, Nope, I've not bought any giclees for the same reason. No feeling of handmade quality about them for me. That's probably purely psychological though, I'm sure some on here will disagree.
Nope, I've not bought any giclees for the same reason. No feeling of handmade quality about them for me. That's probably purely psychological though, I'm sure some on here will disagree.
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Turned off by Giclée, by Copyright on Jun 8, 2007 12:06:11 GMT 1, Be intrested to hear what other methods people prefer for reproducing paintings with unlimited colour.
Be intrested to hear what other methods people prefer for reproducing paintings with unlimited colour.
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romanywg
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Turned off by Giclée, by romanywg on Jun 8, 2007 12:06:18 GMT 1, I'm with you on this debate. Passed by on the recent Ian Francis prints because they were G*****s. Thats one reason I love D*Faces prints you can see the depth of the paint on the paper.
I'm with you on this debate. Passed by on the recent Ian Francis prints because they were G*****s. Thats one reason I love D*Faces prints you can see the depth of the paint on the paper.
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Turned off by Giclée, by Dellboyy on Jun 8, 2007 12:33:57 GMT 1, I wonder what you'd say if banksy released a signed limited Giclée run of one of his oil paintings! :-)
I wonder what you'd say if banksy released a signed limited Giclée run of one of his oil paintings! :-)
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Montubu7
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Turned off by Giclée, by Montubu7 on Jun 8, 2007 12:36:26 GMT 1, Adam neates giclee & its amazing.
I dont usually go for them but if the image is good the image is good...
+1 For the Banksy ref 
Adam neates giclee & its amazing. I dont usually go for them but if the image is good the image is good... +1 For the Banksy ref |
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Dellboyy
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Turned off by Giclée, by Dellboyy on Jun 8, 2007 12:44:27 GMT 1, Yeah i've never actually seen a Giclée in the flesh before, but i've just bought myself an Ian Francis so i'll soon see first hand!
Yeah i've never actually seen a Giclée in the flesh before, but i've just bought myself an Ian Francis so i'll soon see first hand!
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Turned off by Giclée, by ThursdayFeeling on Jun 8, 2007 12:46:03 GMT 1, I wonder what you'd say if banksy released a signed limited Giclée run of one of his oil paintings! :-)
Wouldn't be able to get one anyway, they'd be sold out in seconds and the website would crash.
I'd just have to get one from his website and print it on photographic paper.........or is the signiture we'd be chasing
I wonder what you'd say if banksy released a signed limited Giclée run of one of his oil paintings! :-) Wouldn't be able to get one anyway, they'd be sold out in seconds and the website would crash. I'd just have to get one from his website and print it on photographic paper.........or is the signiture we'd be chasing |
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Turned off by Giclée, by funster on Jun 8, 2007 12:50:18 GMT 1, Adam neates giclee & its amazing. I dont usually go for them but if the image is good the image is good... quote] I agree. I never liked them until I saw the Neates, now I'd go for one if I knew it was the same quality as Elms I'd almost urge anyone who doesn't like them to find a Neate to look at... you may be switched!
Adam neates giclee & its amazing. I dont usually go for them but if the image is good the image is good... quote] I agree. I never liked them until I saw the Neates, now I'd go for one if I knew it was the same quality as Elms I'd almost urge anyone who doesn't like them to find a Neate to look at... you may be switched! |
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Turned off by Giclée, by Dellboyy on Jun 8, 2007 12:52:53 GMT 1, Obviously the signed version would be an investment so would be preferable, but i've always quite liked his oil paintings. I was toying with the idea of getting one recreated at one point.
Obviously the signed version would be an investment so would be preferable, but i've always quite liked his oil paintings. I was toying with the idea of getting one recreated at one point.
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Turned off by Giclée, by dave313perry on Jun 8, 2007 12:58:26 GMT 1, I dont disagree with the use of giclee prints but i have a passionate hate for the way galleries and artists brand them around in additions of 3-400 as fine art prints on archival bla bla bla! its aoad of coblers! working in the industry you know exactly what is involved in processes such as giclee, silkscreen, litho etc and giclee is a nice easy way to get an image onto a wall but there is no art in the print process in itself, there is however skill involved with screenprint and similar.
like i said i have no problem with giclee prins but not when they are over inflated in price and branded around as a unique fine art edition amazingly printed!!!
just my thought
I dont disagree with the use of giclee prints but i have a passionate hate for the way galleries and artists brand them around in additions of 3-400 as fine art prints on archival bla bla bla! its aoad of coblers! working in the industry you know exactly what is involved in processes such as giclee, silkscreen, litho etc and giclee is a nice easy way to get an image onto a wall but there is no art in the print process in itself, there is however skill involved with screenprint and similar. like i said i have no problem with giclee prins but not when they are over inflated in price and branded around as a unique fine art edition amazingly printed!!! just my thought |
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Turned off by Giclée, by rolyateel on Jun 8, 2007 13:24:57 GMT 1, is giclee french for "ink-jet" 
don't care who the artist is, or what the image is there's no way I'd pay more than about £50 for one
is giclee french for "ink-jet" don't care who the artist is, or what the image is there's no way I'd pay more than about £50 for one |
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romanywg
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Turned off by Giclée, by romanywg on Jun 8, 2007 13:54:12 GMT 1, Giclée
Gicler, a French verb meaning ‘to spurt’, is another industry term for inkjet printing. See inkjet.
Giclée
Gicler, a French verb meaning ‘to spurt’, is another industry term for inkjet printing. See inkjet.
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Turned off by Giclée, by corblimeylimey on Jun 8, 2007 14:05:40 GMT 1, IMO they're fine at under £100, but I wouldn't want to pay any more for one.
Screen printing does have it's limitations and it's not possible to reproduce full colour via sreen print.
The alternatives are litho printing, giclee printing (posh art speak for ink jet) or photographic.
Photographic technique can be traditional printing to paper via enlarger (getting pretty rare these days), or the more common method which is what you get in the highstreet in which digital photos are exposed to photopaper which is similar to Lambda (google it for lots of info) but Lambda prints can be huge and it's a continuous tone digital method that uses photographic paper.
What you are getting with giclee, litho etc is a photograph of the art, printed or if the art is digital in the first place you're getting a print out of it, it'll be made of dots of ink, personally I'd prefer Lambda as it's continuous tone.
These techniques are 'automatic' though, no real skill required 'press print' unlike screen printing which really is 'hands on', but as I said not all art can be reproduced via screen printing.
IMO they're fine at under £100, but I wouldn't want to pay any more for one.
Screen printing does have it's limitations and it's not possible to reproduce full colour via sreen print.
The alternatives are litho printing, giclee printing (posh art speak for ink jet) or photographic.
Photographic technique can be traditional printing to paper via enlarger (getting pretty rare these days), or the more common method which is what you get in the highstreet in which digital photos are exposed to photopaper which is similar to Lambda (google it for lots of info) but Lambda prints can be huge and it's a continuous tone digital method that uses photographic paper.
What you are getting with giclee, litho etc is a photograph of the art, printed or if the art is digital in the first place you're getting a print out of it, it'll be made of dots of ink, personally I'd prefer Lambda as it's continuous tone.
These techniques are 'automatic' though, no real skill required 'press print' unlike screen printing which really is 'hands on', but as I said not all art can be reproduced via screen printing.
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Turned off by Giclée, by themightyreds on Jun 8, 2007 14:38:05 GMT 1, i have a couple of giclee prints and have to say i was sceptical of the quality at first but after you see them in the flesh they take on a different quality. Very different to any process litho job or inkjet/laser print i have ever seen, more like printing with unlimited spot colours. Gives a very flat colour that even looks continuous under a glass and certainly looks brilliant colour wise.
Not as much a piece of art as a hand pulled screen print is though, but still looks great framed up.
Will be interesting to see if the ones i've got lose any of thier impact over time...
i have a couple of giclee prints and have to say i was sceptical of the quality at first but after you see them in the flesh they take on a different quality. Very different to any process litho job or inkjet/laser print i have ever seen, more like printing with unlimited spot colours. Gives a very flat colour that even looks continuous under a glass and certainly looks brilliant colour wise.
Not as much a piece of art as a hand pulled screen print is though, but still looks great framed up.
Will be interesting to see if the ones i've got lose any of thier impact over time...
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Turned off by Giclée, by manchestermike on Jun 8, 2007 14:46:36 GMT 1, Just received my first Adam Neate today... it's fantastic, really really impressive. I'm now on a mission to get hold of the rest of them (I imagine they'll be a for sale thread up later as I try to raise the funds)
The quality of my Paved with Gold, combined with the quality of Divine Revelations 1 & 2 has converted me. Of course they've not got the same qualities as screen prints, but they've got other qualities that more than makes up for them being "ink-jets"
Just received my first Adam Neate today... it's fantastic, really really impressive. I'm now on a mission to get hold of the rest of them (I imagine they'll be a for sale thread up later as I try to raise the funds)
The quality of my Paved with Gold, combined with the quality of Divine Revelations 1 & 2 has converted me. Of course they've not got the same qualities as screen prints, but they've got other qualities that more than makes up for them being "ink-jets"
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Turned off by Giclée, by Montubu7 on Jun 8, 2007 14:47:47 GMT 1, Calm fears good mate.........
Calm fears good mate.........
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Turned off by Giclée, by manchestermike on Jun 8, 2007 14:48:28 GMT 1, It's next on my list
It's next on my list |
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Montubu7
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Turned off by Giclée, by Montubu7 on Jun 8, 2007 14:52:46 GMT 1, Paved with golds next on mine...
Paved with golds next on mine... |
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Turned off by Giclée, by lardy on Jun 8, 2007 15:08:27 GMT 1, I bought a ray smith simmians Giclee a few months ago. Good image but felt a bit of a fool paying £150 for what is essentially an inkjet. Alsmost worth it though to here the guy in the gallery trying to rationalise paying the cash...... "yeah but it gives a true and vivid rendering of the artists intentions" Ho ho.
Prefer screenprints.
Comparing a giclee to say a faile screenprint is like comparing chalk and cheese.
I bought a ray smith simmians Giclee a few months ago. Good image but felt a bit of a fool paying £150 for what is essentially an inkjet. Alsmost worth it though to here the guy in the gallery trying to rationalise paying the cash...... "yeah but it gives a true and vivid rendering of the artists intentions" Ho ho.
Prefer screenprints.
Comparing a giclee to say a faile screenprint is like comparing chalk and cheese.
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Turned off by Giclée, by carl on Jun 8, 2007 15:18:11 GMT 1, Giclee prints are fine. If you like the artist and the edition is fairly limited then you should pay what you think the piece is worth or find another artist that you like. I had this problem with peter Kennard and Cat Pinton Philips work. The originals are huge and the prints are Giclee. But with a bit of luck we will be seeing quite a few silkscreens and etchings of some of their best work later in the year. (heads up! www.amilasart.com )
Giclee prints are fine. If you like the artist and the edition is fairly limited then you should pay what you think the piece is worth or find another artist that you like. I had this problem with peter Kennard and Cat Pinton Philips work. The originals are huge and the prints are Giclee. But with a bit of luck we will be seeing quite a few silkscreens and etchings of some of their best work later in the year. (heads up! www.amilasart.com ) |
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Turned off by Giclée, by weeble on Jun 8, 2007 15:39:06 GMT 1, like i said i have no problem with giclee prins but not when they are over inflated in price and branded around as a unique fine art edition amazingly printed!!!
I agree. Like Micallef's 21st Century Love, a giclee print on hanhemuhle photorag 308gsm paper!?!? Well, ooookay, but 6-7k for a digi print?!? I bet it looks stunning and I would love one but it just puts me off. 
Well, that and the fact I haven't got a bottomless wallet
like i said i have no problem with giclee prins but not when they are over inflated in price and branded around as a unique fine art edition amazingly printed!!! I agree. Like Micallef's 21st Century Love, a giclee print on hanhemuhle photorag 308gsm paper!?!? Well, ooookay, but 6-7k for a digi print?!? I bet it looks stunning and I would love one but it just puts me off. Well, that and the fact I haven't got a bottomless wallet |
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Turned off by Giclée, by Imoy-San on Jun 8, 2007 16:03:59 GMT 1, I am about to take delivery of 2 Dan Baldwin pieces. These will be my first foray into the giclee prints.
I'll reserve judgment, but I am not too sure about the prices commanded by these glorified photocopies...
I am about to take delivery of 2 Dan Baldwin pieces. These will be my first foray into the giclee prints.
I'll reserve judgment, but I am not too sure about the prices commanded by these glorified photocopies...
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Turned off by Giclée, by Montubu7 on Jun 8, 2007 16:10:52 GMT 1, Dan baldwins Holy f**k is brilliant!
Dan baldwins Holy f**k is brilliant!
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Turned off by Giclée, by corblimeylimey on Jun 8, 2007 16:18:30 GMT 1, A friend of mine has his own Giclee (large format inkjet) business, I went to see him yesterday for him to do a couple of jobs for me.
I want two 50cm square prints on high quality cotton rich paper (aka rag) he's doing one for me as a return of favour and the other is unlikely to cost more than £10 (friend price although he'll still cover his materials & time for that) I asked him about the possibility of printing on canvas he can buy enough canvas to print 6 x 50cm square canvasses for only £18!!!! obviously I'll need to add the cost of the inks, his time, and the wood for making the stretchers, but I can clearly see the massive profit businesses like Habitat make by selling giclee canvasses for around £90.
That makes the profit on churning out 100 or so giclee's on paper for £500 - £1000 each astronomical.
In the next week or so I'll be posting my results on the forum with his commercial price for doing the same for anyone else here that would also like copies, I think you're going to be gobsmacked.
A friend of mine has his own Giclee (large format inkjet) business, I went to see him yesterday for him to do a couple of jobs for me.
I want two 50cm square prints on high quality cotton rich paper (aka rag) he's doing one for me as a return of favour and the other is unlikely to cost more than £10 (friend price although he'll still cover his materials & time for that) I asked him about the possibility of printing on canvas he can buy enough canvas to print 6 x 50cm square canvasses for only £18!!!! obviously I'll need to add the cost of the inks, his time, and the wood for making the stretchers, but I can clearly see the massive profit businesses like Habitat make by selling giclee canvasses for around £90.
That makes the profit on churning out 100 or so giclee's on paper for £500 - £1000 each astronomical.
In the next week or so I'll be posting my results on the forum with his commercial price for doing the same for anyone else here that would also like copies, I think you're going to be gobsmacked.
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Turned off by Giclée, by ell on Jun 8, 2007 17:13:16 GMT 1, i prefer the idea of screen prints but if i like the image then i dont mind. i recently bought a Jamie Reid print for £150 that is giclee (how do you pronounce it?) but i love the image so i dont mind. if i had the option though i would choose screen print
i prefer the idea of screen prints but if i like the image then i dont mind. i recently bought a Jamie Reid print for £150 that is giclee (how do you pronounce it?) but i love the image so i dont mind. if i had the option though i would choose screen print
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Turned off by Giclée, by jtk on Jun 8, 2007 17:24:57 GMT 1, My Miss Van giclee fianlly arrived in the States, and it's stunning!! It's my first giclee, and wasn't sure what to expect. Lot's a texture to the print, and it feels like I can almost wipe the charcoal off the paper. Will post pics this weekend!
My Miss Van giclee fianlly arrived in the States, and it's stunning!! It's my first giclee, and wasn't sure what to expect. Lot's a texture to the print, and it feels like I can almost wipe the charcoal off the paper. Will post pics this weekend!
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Turned off by Giclée, by taco on Jun 8, 2007 17:55:44 GMT 1, A friend of mine has his own Giclee (large format inkjet) business, I went to see him yesterday for him to do a couple of jobs for me. I want two 50cm square prints on high quality cotton rich paper (aka rag) he's doing one for me as a return of favour and the other is unlikely to cost more than £10 (friend price although he'll still cover his materials & time for that) I asked him about the possibility of printing on canvas he can buy enough canvas to print 6 x 50cm square canvasses for only £18!!!! obviously I'll need to add the cost of the inks, his time, and the wood for making the stretchers, but I can clearly see the massive profit businesses like Habitat make by selling giclee canvasses for around £90. That makes the profit on churning out 100 or so giclee's on paper for £500 - £1000 each astronomical. In the next week or so I'll be posting my results on the forum with his commercial price for doing the same for anyone else here that would also like copies, I think you're going to be gobsmacked.
Lookin forward to seeing your results... what are the prints, or would that ruin the surprise?
A friend of mine has his own Giclee (large format inkjet) business, I went to see him yesterday for him to do a couple of jobs for me. I want two 50cm square prints on high quality cotton rich paper (aka rag) he's doing one for me as a return of favour and the other is unlikely to cost more than £10 (friend price although he'll still cover his materials & time for that) I asked him about the possibility of printing on canvas he can buy enough canvas to print 6 x 50cm square canvasses for only £18!!!! obviously I'll need to add the cost of the inks, his time, and the wood for making the stretchers, but I can clearly see the massive profit businesses like Habitat make by selling giclee canvasses for around £90. That makes the profit on churning out 100 or so giclee's on paper for £500 - £1000 each astronomical. In the next week or so I'll be posting my results on the forum with his commercial price for doing the same for anyone else here that would also like copies, I think you're going to be gobsmacked. Lookin forward to seeing your results... what are the prints, or would that ruin the surprise? |
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Turned off by Giclée, by manchestermike on Jun 8, 2007 18:00:53 GMT 1, i prefer the idea of screen prints but if i like the image then i dont mind. i recently bought a Jamie Reid print for £150 that is giclee (how do you pronounce it?) but i love the image so i dont mind. if i had the option though i would choose screen print
Apparently it's pronounced zee-clay
i prefer the idea of screen prints but if i like the image then i dont mind. i recently bought a Jamie Reid print for £150 that is giclee (how do you pronounce it?) but i love the image so i dont mind. if i had the option though i would choose screen print Apparently it's pronounced zee-clay |
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Turned off by Giclée, by BlackRatPress on Jun 8, 2007 18:05:15 GMT 1, I think giclee is a bit lazy printing. It is possible to screenprint any image that you can giclee. Screenprinting does not have limitations in this sense at all. It is difficult but worthwhile. We are currently working on a a print by kennard which is based in a Constable Oil painting. By comparison it would be very easy to do a Banksy Crude Oil screenprint and I for one would love to see it done.
I think giclee is a bit lazy printing. It is possible to screenprint any image that you can giclee. Screenprinting does not have limitations in this sense at all. It is difficult but worthwhile. We are currently working on a a print by kennard which is based in a Constable Oil painting. By comparison it would be very easy to do a Banksy Crude Oil screenprint and I for one would love to see it done.
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