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- karma, by shine166 on Jun 11, 2007 9:14:23 GMT 1, Ive been posting on here for a while now and seem to have picked up a few enemys along the way. I seem to have lost around 20 karma points over the weekend, which isnt really the thing thats bothering me, its the fact that people dont agree with you but dont have the balls to send you a msg and tell you
Please let me kno how im offending so many people
ps as a lot of you people seem to have a problem with my spelling at times THAT is due to the fact im dislexic
cheers
Ive been posting on here for a while now and seem to have picked up a few enemys along the way. I seem to have lost around 20 karma points over the weekend, which isnt really the thing thats bothering me, its the fact that people dont agree with you but dont have the balls to send you a msg and tell you
Please let me kno how im offending so many people
ps as a lot of you people seem to have a problem with my spelling at times THAT is due to the fact im dislexic
cheers
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- karma, by carl on Jun 11, 2007 9:23:58 GMT 1, Dont worry about your Karma. Its not that important. If people dont like what you are saying then expect your karma to go down. People wont message you if they disagree with you because they probably dont think its worth it! You need to just post your opinion and get on with it. I doubt anyone is knocking your karma because of your spelling its probably what you are saying that they dont like. I dont think creating a thread about it is going to help
Dont worry about your Karma. Its not that important. If people dont like what you are saying then expect your karma to go down. People wont message you if they disagree with you because they probably dont think its worth it! You need to just post your opinion and get on with it. I doubt anyone is knocking your karma because of your spelling its probably what you are saying that they dont like. I dont think creating a thread about it is going to help
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Jun 11, 2007 10:36:11 GMT 1
- karma, by corblimeylimey on Jun 11, 2007 10:36:11 GMT 1, I've seen this quite a few times, once someone gets a few negs they quite often get cought in a 'neg trap' it doesn't help the attitude of the member with the negs so sometimes the member (not saying this about you shine166) starts to 'play up' as there's nothing to lose and more negs get piled on.
Perhaps the best way out is to start over by re-registering on the site thats what Lesbianwednesdays ended up doing (ex Tom Hills) and now look at him!
In the meantime I'll + you shine, and good luck with your art degree show.
I've seen this quite a few times, once someone gets a few negs they quite often get cought in a 'neg trap' it doesn't help the attitude of the member with the negs so sometimes the member (not saying this about you shine166) starts to 'play up' as there's nothing to lose and more negs get piled on.
Perhaps the best way out is to start over by re-registering on the site thats what Lesbianwednesdays ended up doing (ex Tom Hills) and now look at him!
In the meantime I'll + you shine, and good luck with your art degree show.
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Jun 11, 2007 10:39:44 GMT 1
- karma, by discoduster on Jun 11, 2007 10:39:44 GMT 1, I can't leave or see any karma.
What's that about? Not that I'm complaining.
I can't leave or see any karma.
What's that about? Not that I'm complaining.
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Jun 11, 2007 10:40:13 GMT 1
- karma, by artforartssake on Jun 11, 2007 10:40:13 GMT 1, ps as a lot of you people seem to have a problem with my spelling at times THAT is due to the fact im dislexic
Don't insult other people with Dyslexia who work hard to overcome their disability.
Hiding behind it as an excuse for your own f*****g laziness demeans the problems of other sufferers, especially when you as a student are most probably receiving taxpayers money and technological assistance to help overcome it.
There has been a spell check option for everything you have ever posted and choosing not to use it is because YOU are LAZY! not Dyslexic.
ps as a lot of you people seem to have a problem with my spelling at times THAT is due to the fact im dislexic Don't insult other people with Dyslexia who work hard to overcome their disability. Hiding behind it as an excuse for your own f*****g laziness demeans the problems of other sufferers, especially when you as a student are most probably receiving taxpayers money and technological assistance to help overcome it. There has been a spell check option for everything you have ever posted and choosing not to use it is because YOU are LAZY! not Dyslexic.
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Jun 11, 2007 10:49:36 GMT 1
- karma, by corblimeylimey on Jun 11, 2007 10:49:36 GMT 1, That's a bit harsh and presumptuous artforartssake, what's your beef?
That's a bit harsh and presumptuous artforartssake, what's your beef?
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Jun 11, 2007 10:51:30 GMT 1
- karma, by discoduster on Jun 11, 2007 10:51:30 GMT 1, Crabby Arse!
Crabby Arse!
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Jun 11, 2007 11:05:21 GMT 1
- karma, by paulah on Jun 11, 2007 11:05:21 GMT 1, DD - you've been 'out' of the respect system for ages. I always wondered what that was about!
DD - you've been 'out' of the respect system for ages. I always wondered what that was about!
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Jun 11, 2007 11:10:59 GMT 1
- karma, by artforartssake on Jun 11, 2007 11:10:59 GMT 1, That's a bit harsh and presumptuous artforartssake, what's your beef? My beef is exactly what it says on the tin.
A lot of kids with genuine difficulties don't get taken as seriously as they should be, because others hide (poorly) their own laziness behind the disorder.
It took along time to get this issue to where it should be in educational circles today, many people struggling with or eschewing education because they suffered without diagnosis.
There has been too much bad press regarding this disorder recently, calling people shirkers etc, unfortunately this gent puts himself forward as a prime candidate to allow others to be tarred with the same brush.
As you may have noticed, it makes me a touch crabby hmm may have to be an early start at the pub today ;D
That's a bit harsh and presumptuous artforartssake, what's your beef? My beef is exactly what it says on the tin. A lot of kids with genuine difficulties don't get taken as seriously as they should be, because others hide (poorly) their own laziness behind the disorder. It took along time to get this issue to where it should be in educational circles today, many people struggling with or eschewing education because they suffered without diagnosis. There has been too much bad press regarding this disorder recently, calling people shirkers etc, unfortunately this gent puts himself forward as a prime candidate to allow others to be tarred with the same brush. As you may have noticed, it makes me a touch crabby hmm may have to be an early start at the pub today ;D
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Jun 11, 2007 11:12:13 GMT 1
- karma, by artforartssake on Jun 11, 2007 11:12:13 GMT 1, As for the Karma system itself, I think I was with Martin on that one.
As for the Karma system itself, I think I was with Martin on that one.
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Jun 11, 2007 11:12:21 GMT 1
- karma, by discoduster on Jun 11, 2007 11:12:21 GMT 1, DD - you've been 'out' of the respect system for ages. I always wondered what that was about!
I think I got into a slanging match with another member and it descended into daily negging each other....possibly.
If it wasn't that then i dunno but to be honest, i like it like this.
Makes me feel "special"
DD - you've been 'out' of the respect system for ages. I always wondered what that was about! I think I got into a slanging match with another member and it descended into daily negging each other....possibly. If it wasn't that then i dunno but to be honest, i like it like this. Makes me feel "special"
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Jun 11, 2007 11:23:21 GMT 1
- karma, by numusic on Jun 11, 2007 11:23:21 GMT 1, ps as a lot of you people seem to have a problem with my spelling at times THAT is due to the fact im dislexic Don't insult other people with Dyslexia who work hard to overcome their disability. Hiding behind it as an excuse for your own f*****g laziness demeans the problems of other sufferers, especially when you as a student are most probably receiving taxpayers money and technological assistance to help overcome it. There has been a spell check option for everything you have ever posted and choosing not to use it is because YOU are LAZY! not Dyslexic.
A lot of the best artists are Dyslexic, and this is an art forum, who gives a toss about spelling and punctuation.. as for receiving taxpayers money being an excuse to lay into someone.. well, Daily Mail springs to mind.
ps as a lot of you people seem to have a problem with my spelling at times THAT is due to the fact im dislexic Don't insult other people with Dyslexia who work hard to overcome their disability. Hiding behind it as an excuse for your own f*****g laziness demeans the problems of other sufferers, especially when you as a student are most probably receiving taxpayers money and technological assistance to help overcome it. There has been a spell check option for everything you have ever posted and choosing not to use it is because YOU are LAZY! not Dyslexic. A lot of the best artists are Dyslexic, and this is an art forum, who gives a toss about spelling and punctuation.. as for receiving taxpayers money being an excuse to lay into someone.. well, Daily Mail springs to mind.
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Jun 11, 2007 11:42:15 GMT 1
- karma, by carlito on Jun 11, 2007 11:42:15 GMT 1, 'negging' really should only be used for being genuinely out of order, rude and offensive behaviour. Using because someone says they don't like a piece of art or a particular artist is ridiculous, surely art of all things is about a difference of opinion I think the forum needs have a drive on 'neg' awareness and how to use it....
if someone is using it because you're spelling is bad..that's pretty much insane
if you're trying to get a point across quickly I'm sure spelling isn't that important and i really don't see how calling someone lazy helps anyone
'negging' really should only be used for being genuinely out of order, rude and offensive behaviour. Using because someone says they don't like a piece of art or a particular artist is ridiculous, surely art of all things is about a difference of opinion I think the forum needs have a drive on 'neg' awareness and how to use it.... if someone is using it because you're spelling is bad..that's pretty much insane if you're trying to get a point across quickly I'm sure spelling isn't that important and i really don't see how calling someone lazy helps anyone
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Jun 11, 2007 11:43:12 GMT 1
- karma, by artforartssake on Jun 11, 2007 11:43:12 GMT 1, A lot of the best artists are Dyslexic, and this is an art forum, who gives a toss about spelling and punctuation.. as for receiving taxpayers money being an excuse to lay into someone.. well, Daily Mail springs to mind.
No one gives a real toss about the finer points of syntax, but some people get very passionate about those who demean the effect that this disorder has on people who often can't stick up for themselves.
As for the Daily Mail. doesn't Thugs get his butler to read that for him?
A lot of the best artists are Dyslexic, and this is an art forum, who gives a toss about spelling and punctuation.. as for receiving taxpayers money being an excuse to lay into someone.. well, Daily Mail springs to mind. No one gives a real toss about the finer points of syntax, but some people get very passionate about those who demean the effect that this disorder has on people who often can't stick up for themselves. As for the Daily Mail. doesn't Thugs get his butler to read that for him?
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Jun 11, 2007 11:47:25 GMT 1
- karma, by shine166 on Jun 11, 2007 11:47:25 GMT 1, the only reason i mentioned it is because a few people have had personal digs at me over the last few days and artforartsake seems to have got pissed since i haggled on a swap the comment was something like " i hope your arts better than your english". I finish my degree in 2 days time and im gonna start completely fresh on here ill be posting pics of my work and going under my real name Carl Cashman so speak 2u all soon ;D
the only reason i mentioned it is because a few people have had personal digs at me over the last few days and artforartsake seems to have got pissed since i haggled on a swap the comment was something like " i hope your arts better than your english". I finish my degree in 2 days time and im gonna start completely fresh on here ill be posting pics of my work and going under my real name Carl Cashman so speak 2u all soon ;D
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Jun 11, 2007 11:51:08 GMT 1
- karma, by carlito on Jun 11, 2007 11:51:08 GMT 1, cool Carl c u soon
cool Carl c u soon
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Jun 11, 2007 11:57:00 GMT 1
- karma, by bobbyt23 on Jun 11, 2007 11:57:00 GMT 1, I definately agree with you Carlito. I think it's far too easy to just neg someone if you disagree with what they're saying. It seems a lot of people care strongly what level they have and in some respects it does matter because if someone has a lot of negatives it looks badly on themm, even if they haven't really done anything apart from express their opinion.
WooHoo 50th post and by far my most serious.
I definately agree with you Carlito. I think it's far too easy to just neg someone if you disagree with what they're saying. It seems a lot of people care strongly what level they have and in some respects it does matter because if someone has a lot of negatives it looks badly on themm, even if they haven't really done anything apart from express their opinion.
WooHoo 50th post and by far my most serious.
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Jun 11, 2007 14:27:26 GMT 1
- karma, by alderevans2007 on Jun 11, 2007 14:27:26 GMT 1, After reading this thread, I decided to re-register. I had minus repect and it didn't look like I was going to get it back.
I don't really care about the negative repect thing, its just that I'm a bit Obsessive Compulsive!
After reading this thread, I decided to re-register. I had minus repect and it didn't look like I was going to get it back.
I don't really care about the negative repect thing, its just that I'm a bit Obsessive Compulsive!
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Jun 11, 2007 15:45:21 GMT 1
- karma, by finsburyparkranger on Jun 11, 2007 15:45:21 GMT 1, The Karma system needs fine tuning. At the moment respect points are too often eroded by obsessive snipers. People are given too much ammunition to damage a reputation. I would prefer it if everyone was given one respect point a WEEK to add and one to minus. Then the respect system would not be manipulated by the odd nutter and instead would reflect more truly the feelings off all forum users.
The Karma system needs fine tuning. At the moment respect points are too often eroded by obsessive snipers. People are given too much ammunition to damage a reputation. I would prefer it if everyone was given one respect point a WEEK to add and one to minus. Then the respect system would not be manipulated by the odd nutter and instead would reflect more truly the feelings off all forum users.
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Jun 11, 2007 18:09:24 GMT 1
- karma, by ell on Jun 11, 2007 18:09:24 GMT 1, artforartssake - i think thats a bit harsh. im dyslexic too and i try my best to spell right and make sense when i type but it shouldnt have to be a chore to write a message. if you can understand what someone is saying then why get angry about it? i dont understand why you think its degradeing if someone spells something wrong. to me its the similar as saying 'people who can't walk are degradeing to people who cant walk because they dont walk' (to be fair its probably not the best example but you get my point) its stupid
respect to shine166, its rediulous to have - respect because you are dyslexic.
artforartssake - i think thats a bit harsh. im dyslexic too and i try my best to spell right and make sense when i type but it shouldnt have to be a chore to write a message. if you can understand what someone is saying then why get angry about it? i dont understand why you think its degradeing if someone spells something wrong. to me its the similar as saying 'people who can't walk are degradeing to people who cant walk because they dont walk' (to be fair its probably not the best example but you get my point) its stupid
respect to shine166, its rediulous to have - respect because you are dyslexic.
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Jun 11, 2007 19:11:05 GMT 1
- karma, by finsburyparkranger on Jun 11, 2007 19:11:05 GMT 1, Hey ell,
I was diagnosed with dyslexia at an early age. However I'm not sure whether that label is helpful. No one can actually describe what dyslexia is and the British education authorities no longer use the terminology because of this precise reason. I personally don't find it helpful to be labeled in that way. The current use of the word dyslexia is often used as an umbrella term for a group of symptoms. We know however, these related symptoms can be dramatically overcome through hard work and perseverance. Its not like being disabled, when there is nothing you can do apart from make the best of a very difficult situation. Far from it.
I think you might find, like I did, that if you consider your self as just being currently very poor at spelling and/or reading and writing, you might find your self overcoming the problem quicker.
Also one other tip.. don't smoke marijuana. For most people smoking it on a moderate basis will not dramatically effect their ability to live a normal life. However for someone thats trying to overcome reading and writing problems it really is the worst thing you can do.
If you want to chat feel free to PM.
Hey ell,
I was diagnosed with dyslexia at an early age. However I'm not sure whether that label is helpful. No one can actually describe what dyslexia is and the British education authorities no longer use the terminology because of this precise reason. I personally don't find it helpful to be labeled in that way. The current use of the word dyslexia is often used as an umbrella term for a group of symptoms. We know however, these related symptoms can be dramatically overcome through hard work and perseverance. Its not like being disabled, when there is nothing you can do apart from make the best of a very difficult situation. Far from it.
I think you might find, like I did, that if you consider your self as just being currently very poor at spelling and/or reading and writing, you might find your self overcoming the problem quicker.
Also one other tip.. don't smoke marijuana. For most people smoking it on a moderate basis will not dramatically effect their ability to live a normal life. However for someone thats trying to overcome reading and writing problems it really is the worst thing you can do.
If you want to chat feel free to PM.
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Jun 11, 2007 19:12:21 GMT 1
- karma, by wildbill on Jun 11, 2007 19:12:21 GMT 1, I mispell and mispunctuate constantly, thank god for spellcheck. Does anyone know how to spell "mispell" or "mispunctuate"?
seriously, I forgot what I was gonna write next because I can't even spell a word to describe that I can't spell. Its cool though, I could care less about the punctuation. I try to get it right and sometimes invent my own rules......... I can't imagine someone would actually take respect points away for mispelling. that person must have some serious issues with there anal retentiveness.
I prefer a little entropy. Order gets boring. there are to many rules as it is.
As far as dyslexia is concerned, I've always heard positive things about people with dyslexia . A friend of mine prefers to date dislexic women and his girlfriends always have amazing personalities and are a pleasure to be around.
Anytime a person has to overcome major obstacles in there life it makes them a better person so I see that as a positive.
My name is Bill and I have ADD, Its been ten minutes so now I must move on to the next task
I mispell and mispunctuate constantly, thank god for spellcheck. Does anyone know how to spell "mispell" or "mispunctuate" ? seriously, I forgot what I was gonna write next because I can't even spell a word to describe that I can't spell. Its cool though, I could care less about the punctuation. I try to get it right and sometimes invent my own rules......... I can't imagine someone would actually take respect points away for mispelling. that person must have some serious issues with there anal retentiveness. I prefer a little entropy. Order gets boring. there are to many rules as it is. As far as dyslexia is concerned, I've always heard positive things about people with dyslexia . A friend of mine prefers to date dislexic women and his girlfriends always have amazing personalities and are a pleasure to be around. Anytime a person has to overcome major obstacles in there life it makes them a better person so I see that as a positive. My name is Bill and I have ADD, Its been ten minutes so now I must move on to the next task
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Jun 11, 2007 19:51:21 GMT 1
- karma, by Run Pig Run on Jun 11, 2007 19:51:21 GMT 1, I think this respect system holds people back from saying what they really think sometimes......which could be a good thing I suppose.
My spelling is crap and my sentences get muddled, but I do smoke shit loads of weed.
I think this respect system holds people back from saying what they really think sometimes......which could be a good thing I suppose.
My spelling is crap and my sentences get muddled, but I do smoke shit loads of weed.
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Jun 11, 2007 20:03:18 GMT 1
- karma, by streetgirl on Jun 11, 2007 20:03:18 GMT 1, I get the original reason for setting up the respect system, I think it's just gotten lost on either friendly banter or not so friendly banter. Problem is, I'm definitely more hesitant when I'm purchasing from someone with a lot of neg points. That said, with the infrastructure of who knows what and who, it's never been a problem to figure out why someone has any neg points and it's usually been something silly.
I get the original reason for setting up the respect system, I think it's just gotten lost on either friendly banter or not so friendly banter. Problem is, I'm definitely more hesitant when I'm purchasing from someone with a lot of neg points. That said, with the infrastructure of who knows what and who, it's never been a problem to figure out why someone has any neg points and it's usually been something silly.
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Jun 11, 2007 20:03:44 GMT 1
- karma, by carlito on Jun 11, 2007 20:03:44 GMT 1, blimey its for swaps etc nice one DM
blimey its for swaps etc nice one DM
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Jun 11, 2007 20:14:38 GMT 1
- karma, by artforartssake on Jun 11, 2007 20:14:38 GMT 1, artforartssake - i think thats a bit harsh. im dyslexic too and i try my best to spell right and make sense when i type but it shouldnt have to be a chore to write a message. if you can understand what someone is saying then why get angry about it? i dont understand why you think its degradeing if someone spells something wrong. to me its the similar as saying 'people who can't walk are degradeing to people who cant walk because they dont walk' (to be fair its probably not the best example but you get my point) its stupid respect to shine166, its rediulous to have - respect because you are dyslexic.
ell, please read more carefully what I've said. I'm not having a go at shine166s spelling (despite his somewhat misunderstood 'quotes' which actually had nothing to do with his spelling).
I'm upset at someone using the disorder as an excuse for laziness.
This rubbish's other peoples hard efforts to overcome their problems. As finsburyparkranger says, it's a problem that can be countered by hard work and perseverance, training your brain by doing crosswords and using stuff like 'spell check' allows sufferers to spot feck ups more easily as they happen. It's almost the equivalent of muscle memory in physical sport.
There is also a fascinating 'new' approach to the subject which actually reinforces the principle of 'training the brain' to overcome these disorders:
www.dore.co.uk
In short, effort equals results with most (but not all) and that's why I get upset when someone uses Dyslexia as an excuse, with blatently no effort.
Best wishes Rich
artforartssake - i think thats a bit harsh. im dyslexic too and i try my best to spell right and make sense when i type but it shouldnt have to be a chore to write a message. if you can understand what someone is saying then why get angry about it? i dont understand why you think its degradeing if someone spells something wrong. to me its the similar as saying 'people who can't walk are degradeing to people who cant walk because they dont walk' (to be fair its probably not the best example but you get my point) its stupid respect to shine166, its rediulous to have - respect because you are dyslexic. ell, please read more carefully what I've said. I'm not having a go at shine166s spelling (despite his somewhat misunderstood 'quotes' which actually had nothing to do with his spelling). I'm upset at someone using the disorder as an excuse for laziness. This rubbish's other peoples hard efforts to overcome their problems. As finsburyparkranger says, it's a problem that can be countered by hard work and perseverance, training your brain by doing crosswords and using stuff like 'spell check' allows sufferers to spot feck ups more easily as they happen. It's almost the equivalent of muscle memory in physical sport. There is also a fascinating 'new' approach to the subject which actually reinforces the principle of 'training the brain' to overcome these disorders: www.dore.co.ukIn short, effort equals results with most (but not all) and that's why I get upset when someone uses Dyslexia as an excuse, with blatently no effort. Best wishes Rich
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Jun 11, 2007 20:21:22 GMT 1
- karma, by Run Pig Run on Jun 11, 2007 20:21:22 GMT 1, I think you have made you point very well several times.
I think you have made you point very well several times.
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Jun 11, 2007 20:23:58 GMT 1
- karma, by teatwosugars on Jun 11, 2007 20:23:58 GMT 1, The Karma system needs fine tuning. At the moment respect points are too often eroded by obsessive snipers. People are given too much ammunition to damage a reputation. I would prefer it if everyone was given one respect point a WEEK to add and one to minus. Then the respect system would not be manipulated by the odd nutter and instead would reflect more truly the feelings off all forum users.
Good point. I like the idea of one negative a week to stop the people on a power trip. Personally I think I've only ever given one negative in my time on here (what a saint! ).
However, IMO one positive a week might be a bit extreme. I tend to find that I give quite a few positives a week due to the fact that I think there's so much good advice on here. It also makes it difficult if someone has started a thread with a question and been given answers/opinions from quite a few people (Thwaites and Notitle's recent holiday questions/suggestions might be a good example of this). To spend 5 weeks rewarding 5 people for their advice might get a bit much.
It's a good starting idea though finsburyparkranger. Have a + from me! ;D
The Karma system needs fine tuning. At the moment respect points are too often eroded by obsessive snipers. People are given too much ammunition to damage a reputation. I would prefer it if everyone was given one respect point a WEEK to add and one to minus. Then the respect system would not be manipulated by the odd nutter and instead would reflect more truly the feelings off all forum users. Good point. I like the idea of one negative a week to stop the people on a power trip. Personally I think I've only ever given one negative in my time on here (what a saint! ). However, IMO one positive a week might be a bit extreme. I tend to find that I give quite a few positives a week due to the fact that I think there's so much good advice on here. It also makes it difficult if someone has started a thread with a question and been given answers/opinions from quite a few people (Thwaites and Notitle's recent holiday questions/suggestions might be a good example of this). To spend 5 weeks rewarding 5 people for their advice might get a bit much. It's a good starting idea though finsburyparkranger. Have a + from me! ;D
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Jun 11, 2007 20:33:41 GMT 1
- karma, by carlito on Jun 11, 2007 20:33:41 GMT 1, can i use laziness as an excuse for my poor spelling?
can i use laziness as an excuse for my poor spelling?
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