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Wheatpaste poster creation, by woozie on Sept 30, 2008 2:17:27 GMT 1, Hello all,
I'm new on the forum. Though I don't really practice it, I really admire and enjoy street art - in fact, I've been studying it in depth quite recently.
I made a post in the OBEY subforum, but in a week nobody replied to it; so I'm making one here in the hopes I'll get an answer. The reason I chose OBEY in particular is because it is his posters I am interested in the most, but I suppose my questions can relate to any street poster really.
I've been studying Fairey lately (I have a sort of love/hate relationship with him) and I've been wondering - how the hell does he make all those posters? I guess you could extend the question to wheatpaste posters from any street artist really. I know how you go about actually wheatpasting a poster on a wall, but there's no real guide out there on how people do the posters themselves.
The question has two parts:
1. How does he (Shepard Fairey) make his actual designs (I know he rips off images from other sources, but how does he edit them? I'm assuming it's a photo - editing or design program of some sort, but does anyone have any idea what exactly it might be and what you have to do to produce the 'propaganda' effect?')?
2. How do you print the images, as in: what printers can you go to that can produce a poster the size of a wall (or several hundred of a smaller poster) and how can you afforded it all if you don't have much money? (All that ink must be expensive, right?) Yeah, I know you can steal it, but surely it would be difficult in the long run to consistently make and print posters at a store of some sort and then run out the door with them?
Sorry if the question seems a bit stupid, but I've searched and searched and for the life of me I can't find the answer. Any ideas?
Hello all,
I'm new on the forum. Though I don't really practice it, I really admire and enjoy street art - in fact, I've been studying it in depth quite recently.
I made a post in the OBEY subforum, but in a week nobody replied to it; so I'm making one here in the hopes I'll get an answer. The reason I chose OBEY in particular is because it is his posters I am interested in the most, but I suppose my questions can relate to any street poster really.
I've been studying Fairey lately (I have a sort of love/hate relationship with him) and I've been wondering - how the hell does he make all those posters? I guess you could extend the question to wheatpaste posters from any street artist really. I know how you go about actually wheatpasting a poster on a wall, but there's no real guide out there on how people do the posters themselves.
The question has two parts:
1. How does he (Shepard Fairey) make his actual designs (I know he rips off images from other sources, but how does he edit them? I'm assuming it's a photo - editing or design program of some sort, but does anyone have any idea what exactly it might be and what you have to do to produce the 'propaganda' effect?')?
2. How do you print the images, as in: what printers can you go to that can produce a poster the size of a wall (or several hundred of a smaller poster) and how can you afforded it all if you don't have much money? (All that ink must be expensive, right?) Yeah, I know you can steal it, but surely it would be difficult in the long run to consistently make and print posters at a store of some sort and then run out the door with them?
Sorry if the question seems a bit stupid, but I've searched and searched and for the life of me I can't find the answer. Any ideas?
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by PRO on Sept 30, 2008 2:55:29 GMT 1, It's top secret infomation your require... no answers here
It's top secret infomation your require... no answers here
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woozie
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by woozie on Sept 30, 2008 3:25:41 GMT 1, Any serious answers?
Any serious answers?
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by stillborncrisps on Sept 30, 2008 9:49:28 GMT 1, He's a trained illustrator, so I would bet he uses the usual combination of Photoshop/Illustrator. Illustrator is where you'd achieve the 'propaganda' look, with flat colours/gradients and smooth lines.
He's a trained illustrator, so I would bet he uses the usual combination of Photoshop/Illustrator. Illustrator is where you'd achieve the 'propaganda' look, with flat colours/gradients and smooth lines.
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by stickee on Sept 30, 2008 10:28:04 GMT 1, Hello all, I'm new on the forum. I made a post in the OBEY subforum, but in a week nobody replied to it I've been studying Fairey lately (I have a sort of love/hate relationship with him)The question has two parts: 1. How does he (Shepard Fairey) make his actual designs (I know he rips off images from other sources, but how does he edit them?
I wonder why you didnt get a reply 
Hello all, I'm new on the forum. I made a post in the OBEY subforum, but in a week nobody replied to it I've been studying Fairey lately (I have a sort of love/hate relationship with him)The question has two parts: 1. How does he (Shepard Fairey) make his actual designs (I know he rips off images from other sources, but how does he edit them? I wonder why you didnt get a reply |
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woozie
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by woozie on Sept 30, 2008 16:30:53 GMT 1, Thanks stillborn. I suspected as such.
Stickee, I'm not entirely sure what you're implying; that I shouldn't have mentioned Obey rips off his images? Sorry guys and gals, it's true:
www.art-for-a-change.com/Obey/index.htm
If that wasn't what you meant then I don't really know what to say. Any other answers?
Thanks stillborn. I suspected as such. Stickee, I'm not entirely sure what you're implying; that I shouldn't have mentioned Obey rips off his images? Sorry guys and gals, it's true: www.art-for-a-change.com/Obey/index.htmIf that wasn't what you meant then I don't really know what to say. Any other answers? |
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stickee
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by stickee on Oct 5, 2008 1:01:19 GMT 1, another low post count member bringing up the same art for a change article....oh god, we have all read it. I cant be bothered with the same arguement every week......sigh.
Stillborn is right partly but he is also skilled in doing this stuff freehand as he has been around since before illustrator and photoshop existed.
Why don't you email him??
another low post count member bringing up the same art for a change article....oh god, we have all read it. I cant be bothered with the same arguement every week......sigh.
Stillborn is right partly but he is also skilled in doing this stuff freehand as he has been around since before illustrator and photoshop existed.
Why don't you email him??
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by scoote on Oct 6, 2008 18:36:30 GMT 1, Thought that I might try and answer your question on how he print his posters. I guess he is fairly loaded but to print different size posters you need to approach the right size printer. I guess for one off's he is probably running inkjets out on a wide format machine. For small run posters under A3 or under for a low run of say under 200 he is probably running it digital as it is more cost effective. Between 200-400 A3 posters he may be using a B3 size printer, printing on a 4-5 colour Heidleberg GTO or similar. Anything bigger in run then it would probably be B2. For bigger run A1 posters then he is probably running it on a B1 press. Of course these may also be screenprinted if you are going for a certain look this can vary in size but doesn't suit large runs as it is all pulled by hand and gets expensive. This is of course all circumstantial but nevertheless an answer of sorts.
Thought that I might try and answer your question on how he print his posters. I guess he is fairly loaded but to print different size posters you need to approach the right size printer. I guess for one off's he is probably running inkjets out on a wide format machine. For small run posters under A3 or under for a low run of say under 200 he is probably running it digital as it is more cost effective. Between 200-400 A3 posters he may be using a B3 size printer, printing on a 4-5 colour Heidleberg GTO or similar. Anything bigger in run then it would probably be B2. For bigger run A1 posters then he is probably running it on a B1 press. Of course these may also be screenprinted if you are going for a certain look this can vary in size but doesn't suit large runs as it is all pulled by hand and gets expensive. This is of course all circumstantial but nevertheless an answer of sorts.
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by data on Oct 7, 2008 21:35:23 GMT 1, Ive seen some of his stuff on the street which has been hand colored
Ive seen some of his stuff on the street which has been hand colored
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stickee
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by stickee on Oct 7, 2008 23:31:44 GMT 1, most of it is hand coloured , and have you tried pasting up inkjet prints??
his smaller pasters can be either screen printed or Litho or photocopies dependent on the run size and the image
as for the bigger stuff see the post below!
most of it is hand coloured , and have you tried pasting up inkjet prints?? his smaller pasters can be either screen printed or Litho or photocopies dependent on the run size and the image as for the bigger stuff see the post below! |
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by stickee on Oct 7, 2008 23:49:36 GMT 1, Definitive answer for you!.................................
Are these silkscreen printings too ?
JASON JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.. how much does a poster like that cost to get printed? or is that screenprinted by shep?
Those are just oversized black and white copies made at the local copy center (36" wide strips) and painted. It costs about 75 cents a square foot in LA, so that 4' x 12' paster would cost about $40....
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by Avian Security on Oct 10, 2008 14:47:51 GMT 1,
Excellent work Stickee my boy. That's round the corner from me, he put it up exactly how I guessed!
Excellent work Stickee my boy. That's round the corner from me, he put it up exactly how I guessed! |
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by m@san on Nov 1, 2008 14:25:15 GMT 1, For B&W 30% coverage prints for hand colouring , try Blow Up in Brighon - about the cheapest I've found
www.blowup-printing.com/Large-Format.xhtm
Screenprinting large format up to A1 needn't be expensive .. I bought a couple of secondhand A1 screens for ยฃ20 on ebay and made some cheap ink from wallpaper paste and powder paint. CAS or Seawhite do a cheap A1 paper for about ยฃ25 for a ream of 250 sheets.
For B&W 30% coverage prints for hand colouring , try Blow Up in Brighon - about the cheapest I've found www.blowup-printing.com/Large-Format.xhtm Screenprinting large format up to A1 needn't be expensive .. I bought a couple of secondhand A1 screens for ยฃ20 on ebay and made some cheap ink from wallpaper paste and powder paint. CAS or Seawhite do a cheap A1 paper for about ยฃ25 for a ream of 250 sheets. |
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by valerio on Nov 2, 2008 13:37:45 GMT 1, yeah ive been asking myself the same questions woozie. after sometimes here is my guesses:
the designs are made in photoshop and illustrator using source images from books, newspapers, web, whatsoever..
the giant posters are made through largescale xerox machines. where i live an A1 photocopy b/w costs around 5$ (3โฌ). if you glue togheter more of these, you get a giant one. im guessing the colored one are mostly colored xeroxes again. some handpainted.
about the costs, it's pretty obvious mr fairey is making enough money weekly to afford the costs of this.
yeah ive been asking myself the same questions woozie. after sometimes here is my guesses:
the designs are made in photoshop and illustrator using source images from books, newspapers, web, whatsoever..
the giant posters are made through largescale xerox machines. where i live an A1 photocopy b/w costs around 5$ (3โฌ). if you glue togheter more of these, you get a giant one. im guessing the colored one are mostly colored xeroxes again. some handpainted.
about the costs, it's pretty obvious mr fairey is making enough money weekly to afford the costs of this.
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Wheatpaste poster creation, by raiden on Dec 1, 2008 11:16:36 GMT 1, Yeah, Shepard has basically a small factory in LA. Nice offices. He makes plenty off his print releases to finance his street work - which I applaud.
The real amazing thing is that he used to have LA pretty well covered back in 1998/99. I remember a huge Obey paster on a billboard that was there for at least two years.
I've been looking into buying a large format printer for just this reason - not cheap. You might be able to pick one up at a business liquidation auction or 1/10th the cost.
Yeah, Shepard has basically a small factory in LA. Nice offices. He makes plenty off his print releases to finance his street work - which I applaud.
The real amazing thing is that he used to have LA pretty well covered back in 1998/99. I remember a huge Obey paster on a billboard that was there for at least two years.
I've been looking into buying a large format printer for just this reason - not cheap. You might be able to pick one up at a business liquidation auction or 1/10th the cost.
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