Fragile
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mcster
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by mcster on Jul 24, 2008 9:53:12 GMT 1, Good read !
It's a shame they commmited such a hideous crime, only if they'd have been out mugging people they'd have got a slap on the wrist. The World is going crazy.
Good read !
It's a shame they commmited such a hideous crime, only if they'd have been out mugging people they'd have got a slap on the wrist. The World is going crazy.
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by howlinhooker on Jul 24, 2008 10:01:48 GMT 1, INTERESTNG READ .......CHEERS!!!!!!!!!
INTERESTNG READ .......CHEERS!!!!!!!!!
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jon11
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by jon11 on Jul 24, 2008 10:57:29 GMT 1, really good read - nice one. sad as... hard to call where you sit on it... certainly shocking though
... wonder how long before these boys are taggin the prisons!?!?
really good read - nice one. sad as... hard to call where you sit on it... certainly shocking though
... wonder how long before these boys are taggin the prisons!?!?
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by orangematt on Jul 24, 2008 11:31:49 GMT 1, thats a bloody outrage ..
these guys have not hurt anyone - no way should they be banged up in prison . Keep prison for criminals ( i thought they were overcrowded anyway !) .this is a blatent example of the thought police crushing individual expression ... its like school teachers telling you not to write on the books magnified 10000 times ....
I hope they appeal and get released as soon as possible -
Or maybe every crew and writer in the country should go out bombing release the DPM 5 everywhere !!!!!  (ps i didnt say that ok )
thats a bloody outrage .. these guys have not hurt anyone - no way should they be banged up in prison . Keep prison for criminals ( i thought they were overcrowded anyway !) .this is a blatent example of the thought police crushing individual expression ... its like school teachers telling you not to write on the books magnified 10000 times .... I hope they appeal and get released as soon as possible - Or maybe every crew and writer in the country should go out bombing release the DPM 5 everywhere !!!!! (ps i didnt say that ok ) |
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moff
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by moff on Jul 24, 2008 11:54:08 GMT 1, good call SPQR power to the people
good call SPQR power to the people
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romanywg
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by romanywg on Jul 24, 2008 12:17:49 GMT 1, I hear you SPQR.
I hear you SPQR.
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stickee
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by stickee on Jul 24, 2008 14:00:14 GMT 1, thats sickening
thats sickening
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BlightSociety
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by BlightSociety on Jul 24, 2008 15:15:59 GMT 1, This is a big step forward. Nice to see some dialog going on in the press about the over criminalization of graffiti. Now we need someone to draft a change in the law.
How about:
- Legalising painting on publicly owned property?
- Vandals caught painting on privet property made to clean up there town (instead of expensive prison time)
Anyone know a judge?
This is a big step forward. Nice to see some dialog going on in the press about the over criminalization of graffiti. Now we need someone to draft a change in the law.
How about:
- Legalising painting on publicly owned property?
- Vandals caught painting on privet property made to clean up there town (instead of expensive prison time)
Anyone know a judge?
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mcster
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by mcster on Jul 24, 2008 16:01:30 GMT 1, I've been thinking about this a lot today. Isn't it strange that Tate Modern is covered in street art and having talks about it, yet at the same time the more traditional (for want of a better word) street artists are being locked up? Whatever your taste, one undeniable fact is that the two things are the same; illegal painting on the streets, trains etc....
Reading the article attached to this, it's obvious that these are not a bad lot. Ok, so they paint trains and sidings (I've seen their stuff), but by the looks of it they also put something back. I reckon we as forum should try and draw a bit of attention to this. You may not like what they do, but if Banksy or any of the artists we follow were to get put away we'd be calling it an outrage.
As blightsociety says, it's time for a change in the law, but we all know how long that would take. Until then I reckon some of the artists earning a good living from this should maybe do something to help. I'm not suggesting yet another forum misadventure into raising cash for an appeal, but how about a few of the more famous artists doing some 'free DPM' street pieces to draw attention to this? Every new Banksy gets on the news after all? It's not just about Banksy though, a lot of the artists that get up could show some solidarity with these guys and maybe it's a way to bridge the divide that's been growing between graffiti and street art. Any thoughts (I have my flame proof jacket on....)
I've been thinking about this a lot today. Isn't it strange that Tate Modern is covered in street art and having talks about it, yet at the same time the more traditional (for want of a better word) street artists are being locked up? Whatever your taste, one undeniable fact is that the two things are the same; illegal painting on the streets, trains etc....
Reading the article attached to this, it's obvious that these are not a bad lot. Ok, so they paint trains and sidings (I've seen their stuff), but by the looks of it they also put something back. I reckon we as forum should try and draw a bit of attention to this. You may not like what they do, but if Banksy or any of the artists we follow were to get put away we'd be calling it an outrage.
As blightsociety says, it's time for a change in the law, but we all know how long that would take. Until then I reckon some of the artists earning a good living from this should maybe do something to help. I'm not suggesting yet another forum misadventure into raising cash for an appeal, but how about a few of the more famous artists doing some 'free DPM' street pieces to draw attention to this? Every new Banksy gets on the news after all? It's not just about Banksy though, a lot of the artists that get up could show some solidarity with these guys and maybe it's a way to bridge the divide that's been growing between graffiti and street art. Any thoughts (I have my flame proof jacket on....)
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shaunyboy
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by bankruptcreative on Jul 24, 2008 19:56:12 GMT 1, I suggest that anyone who is interested in helping joins the facebook group where they should get updates and can sign the petition linked to already. It recently worked for another writer jailed who was later freed on appeal.
Hopefully things will come to a sensible conclusion sooner rather than later...
I suggest that anyone who is interested in helping joins the facebook group where they should get updates and can sign the petition linked to already. It recently worked for another writer jailed who was later freed on appeal.
Hopefully things will come to a sensible conclusion sooner rather than later...
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Harveyn
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by Harveyn on Jul 24, 2008 20:16:45 GMT 1, Disgraceful to hand out custodial sentences when real criminals are treated so leniently. Ever member of this forum should sign up to this petition.
Disgraceful to hand out custodial sentences when real criminals are treated so leniently. Ever member of this forum should sign up to this petition.
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Ged
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by Ged on Jul 24, 2008 20:59:05 GMT 1, The whole justice system in this country is fucked!!! There is no consistency with sentences handed out. Paedophiles and murderers have received more lenient punishment in comparison to their crimes than these 5. It's a complete joke!
Fair enough, the government sees it as a crime, so treat in relation to the act. Give them 100 hours community service, not lock them up with real criminals. It certainly won't help to 'rehabilitate' them which is what prison is meant to do.
Signed: No. 963
The whole justice system in this country is fucked!!! There is no consistency with sentences handed out. Paedophiles and murderers have received more lenient punishment in comparison to their crimes than these 5. It's a complete joke!
Fair enough, the government sees it as a crime, so treat in relation to the act. Give them 100 hours community service, not lock them up with real criminals. It certainly won't help to 'rehabilitate' them which is what prison is meant to do.
Signed: No. 963
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by victorwilliams on Jul 24, 2008 22:10:07 GMT 1, Cool everyone should sign, if your any real fan of this movement. I signed it a few days back and was 500 odd so its getting there.
Cool everyone should sign, if your any real fan of this movement. I signed it a few days back and was 500 odd so its getting there.
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mcster
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by mcster on Jul 24, 2008 22:21:18 GMT 1, Signed the petition, approaching the thousand point now,,,,
Signed the petition, approaching the thousand point now,,,,
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Pure Evil
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by Pure Evil on Jul 24, 2008 22:29:21 GMT 1, the rail networks are hardcore bastards im really glad im a pu**y street artist and i dont paint on trains...
the rail networks are hardcore bastards im really glad im a pu**y street artist and i dont paint on trains...
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by bobbyt23 on Jul 24, 2008 22:33:43 GMT 1, Prison is a bit harsh for graffiti but doing it on trains is just asking for trouble. If someone tagged your car you would be prettty pissed!
Prison is a bit harsh for graffiti but doing it on trains is just asking for trouble. If someone tagged your car you would be prettty pissed!
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thesewalls
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by thesewalls on Jul 24, 2008 23:04:06 GMT 1, damn, well said in regards to painting trains. one of the biggest payoffs for a writer, but one of the greatest risks. these are the people the city/state/government make examples of. you f*ck with us, we f*ck with you, simple action/reaction.
damn, well said in regards to painting trains. one of the biggest payoffs for a writer, but one of the greatest risks. these are the people the city/state/government make examples of. you f*ck with us, we f*ck with you, simple action/reaction.
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by snowflake8888 on Jul 25, 2008 8:57:50 GMT 1, This is why Banksy's protective circle is so strong. The police must have an incredible file collated after so many years. What do you think Banksy's estimated damage (or value added) to property would be?
This is why Banksy's protective circle is so strong. The police must have an incredible file collated after so many years. What do you think Banksy's estimated damage (or value added) to property would be?
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seidbereit
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by seidbereit on Jul 25, 2008 11:47:24 GMT 1, Great read, but a truly unbelievable situation. They sound like completely upstanding lads IMO what with their commitment to various youth projects and their manner of expressing themselves. It really is unfathomable that they should have been given any sort of custodial sentence at all!
Makes me think about cases such as Joey Barton (for the benefit of our American cousins, he's a professional footballer [of sorts]) who got off practically scot-free after giving a battering to some stranger in the street and then beating a fellow professional footballer unconcious on the training ground within two or three months of each other. Not to mention him stubbing a cigar out in the eye of a youth player at the MCFC Xmas party a few years ago and then punching a 13 year old boy in the face at the team hotel on a preseason tour the following year and breaking the team captain's foot when he tried to calm him down in the ensuing scuffle. Seems to be one rule for people with a clear history of violence abd another for people who aren't doing anyone any real physical harm. The difference being one is a highly paid "celebrity" the where the others are obviously just seen as worthless street trolls.
Absolutely ridiculous. 
Great read, but a truly unbelievable situation. They sound like completely upstanding lads IMO what with their commitment to various youth projects and their manner of expressing themselves. It really is unfathomable that they should have been given any sort of custodial sentence at all! Makes me think about cases such as Joey Barton (for the benefit of our American cousins, he's a professional footballer [of sorts]) who got off practically scot-free after giving a battering to some stranger in the street and then beating a fellow professional footballer unconcious on the training ground within two or three months of each other. Not to mention him stubbing a cigar out in the eye of a youth player at the MCFC Xmas party a few years ago and then punching a 13 year old boy in the face at the team hotel on a preseason tour the following year and breaking the team captain's foot when he tried to calm him down in the ensuing scuffle. Seems to be one rule for people with a clear history of violence abd another for people who aren't doing anyone any real physical harm. The difference being one is a highly paid "celebrity" the where the others are obviously just seen as worthless street trolls. Absolutely ridiculous. |
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by ihate69 on Jul 25, 2008 11:55:02 GMT 1, ... these are the same guys that got caught bombing the east enders set.
totally ridiculous that was what got them caught but come on
initially they were facing 10 years ---
----- thats insane.
... these are the same guys that got caught bombing the east enders set.
totally ridiculous that was what got them caught but come on
initially they were facing 10 years ---
----- thats insane.
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seidbereit
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by seidbereit on Jul 25, 2008 11:56:48 GMT 1, ... these are the same guys that got caught bombing the east enders set. totally ridiculous that was what got them caught but come on initially they were facing 10 years --- ----- thats insane.
Caught bombing the set? The way I understood the article one of the crew was commissioned by the BBC to paint the set.
... these are the same guys that got caught bombing the east enders set. totally ridiculous that was what got them caught but come on initially they were facing 10 years --- ----- thats insane. Caught bombing the set? The way I understood the article one of the crew was commissioned by the BBC to paint the set. |
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by ihate69 on Jul 25, 2008 12:21:53 GMT 1, its irrelevant really the point is the punishment.
JUST STUPID.....
its irrelevant really the point is the punishment.
JUST STUPID.....
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by grantb on Jul 25, 2008 15:03:31 GMT 1, "How come you can wear it and buy it, use it in advertising, marketing, music and every album cover and as soon as you do it you're f***ed, so where's the message? If they don't want people to be involved, don't popularise it."
so true
"How come you can wear it and buy it, use it in advertising, marketing, music and every album cover and as soon as you do it you're f***ed, so where's the message? If they don't want people to be involved, don't popularise it."
so true
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by baileymontana on Jul 25, 2008 15:17:42 GMT 1, Prison is a bit harsh for graffiti but doing it on trains is just asking for trouble. If someone tagged your car you would be prettty pissed!
Part of the reason Laugh Now is a favourite of mine is because I saw it sprayed on the train. Trains are seen as public property like walls are for many writers (you just have to have bigger balls to graf a train).
Prison is a bit harsh for graffiti but doing it on trains is just asking for trouble. If someone tagged your car you would be prettty pissed! Part of the reason Laugh Now is a favourite of mine is because I saw it sprayed on the train. Trains are seen as public property like walls are for many writers (you just have to have bigger balls to graf a train). |
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Fragile
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Graffiti Artists jailed - newspaper article , by Fragile on Jul 29, 2008 10:51:14 GMT 1, bump
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(ps i didnt say that ok )
