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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Damien on Apr 27, 2011 22:17:06 GMT 1, think he's about 20 now
think he's about 20 now
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Guest on Apr 27, 2011 22:28:49 GMT 1, BE VERY CAREFUL, COMMENTS ON THIS THREAD COULD RESULT IN A BAN.
Just the usual Cartrain health warning!
BE VERY CAREFUL, COMMENTS ON THIS THREAD COULD RESULT IN A BAN.
Just the usual Cartrain health warning!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alistairkhalil on Apr 27, 2011 22:43:27 GMT 1, ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS.. This is ridiculous.
Have i been unfair to you?
I have replied to every single one of your annoying, confusing multiple emails.
I have met every single one of your crazy requests...
I have been very clear with you from the start..
Its all really simple, YOU misunderstood the email we sent you saying..
β"DAVID!! SINCEREST APOLOGIES FROM ME AND CARTRAIN! ATTACHED IS A PICTURE OF YOUR PACKAGE THAT WILL BE SHIPPED FOR YOU TOMORROW AND WILL DEF BE WITH YOU IN 3 DAYS.PEACE AND LOVE FROM ALI"
When you realized the yellow love bomb canvas wasnβt included you emailed us:
βHi Ali. Ive just written to Cartrain as well about this. I got the package this morning and I love it all but I was under the impression (from Cartrains messages) that todays paintings were extra surprises on top of the 8" X 10" yellow Love Bomb canvas that I paid for on the 19th of Feb. I know this whole thing has been a bit of a mare but I still do love Cartrains work and street work and really hope that I can still get the canvas that I bought of his site.i.e. the small yellow one. (Mon, 04 Apr 2011)
(Completely understandable)..
I WONT BORE YOU ALL WITH THE REALLY CONFUSING EMAILS, REQUEST AND GENREL MOANS (LOADS OF THEM) that where all replied to.. instantly.
All the love bombs where sold so i managed to find a some with a love bomb who was willing to swap for the items i shipped david.. (who wouldnt) HAVE YOU SEEN THE PICTURE.. all 1/1's
like i said (Completely understandable).. davd MISUNDERSTOOD us and wanted the original love bomb he paid for..
So now he doesnt want it..
But before he didnt want the original package but then when the swap was arranged wanted to keep the one of the prints.. Its all very annoying..
Like i said i have tried my hardest to be fair and understanding..
ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS.. This is ridiculous.
Have i been unfair to you?
I have replied to every single one of your annoying, confusing multiple emails.
I have met every single one of your crazy requests...
I have been very clear with you from the start..
Its all really simple, YOU misunderstood the email we sent you saying..
β"DAVID!! SINCEREST APOLOGIES FROM ME AND CARTRAIN! ATTACHED IS A PICTURE OF YOUR PACKAGE THAT WILL BE SHIPPED FOR YOU TOMORROW AND WILL DEF BE WITH YOU IN 3 DAYS.PEACE AND LOVE FROM ALI"
When you realized the yellow love bomb canvas wasnβt included you emailed us:
βHi Ali. Ive just written to Cartrain as well about this. I got the package this morning and I love it all but I was under the impression (from Cartrains messages) that todays paintings were extra surprises on top of the 8" X 10" yellow Love Bomb canvas that I paid for on the 19th of Feb. I know this whole thing has been a bit of a mare but I still do love Cartrains work and street work and really hope that I can still get the canvas that I bought of his site.i.e. the small yellow one. (Mon, 04 Apr 2011)
(Completely understandable)..
I WONT BORE YOU ALL WITH THE REALLY CONFUSING EMAILS, REQUEST AND GENREL MOANS (LOADS OF THEM) that where all replied to.. instantly.
All the love bombs where sold so i managed to find a some with a love bomb who was willing to swap for the items i shipped david.. (who wouldnt) HAVE YOU SEEN THE PICTURE.. all 1/1's
like i said (Completely understandable).. davd MISUNDERSTOOD us and wanted the original love bomb he paid for..
So now he doesnt want it..
But before he didnt want the original package but then when the swap was arranged wanted to keep the one of the prints.. Its all very annoying..
Like i said i have tried my hardest to be fair and understanding..
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alistairkhalil on Apr 27, 2011 22:47:15 GMT 1, Please keep the art you have, leave me alone.. what more can i say. i have spent hours trying to reply to your emails.. i have them all in my sent items. Its very frustrating, confusing and annoying.
Please keep the art you have, leave me alone.. what more can i say. i have spent hours trying to reply to your emails.. i have them all in my sent items. Its very frustrating, confusing and annoying.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by theleveller on Apr 27, 2011 22:53:25 GMT 1, When where you his agent?
Far to much PR on here.
You didn't give the guy what he wanted! So give him his money back.
When where you his agent?
Far to much PR on here.
You didn't give the guy what he wanted! So give him his money back.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by theleveller on Apr 27, 2011 22:56:07 GMT 1, You've spent lots off time sending art out? I guess thats not cartrians... who are you the super agent for?
You've spent lots off time sending art out? I guess thats not cartrians... who are you the super agent for?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by connecta1 on Apr 27, 2011 22:57:48 GMT 1, ...so, a little more than just a "fan, collector and a friend" then?
...so, a little more than just a "fan, collector and a friend" then?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 22:58:45 GMT 1, Ok I'm not here to Pick fights or take sides... However Some people are getting a lot of things twisted. As far as I know David received A Larger Original 1/1 canvas as a way of saying sorry for messing up the order. However he still wanted his 1/5 that he paid for not the larger 1/1 original which is a much better deal. On top of that he received an extra three free originals.. Ali has done a great job in trying to rectify this problem and this discussion should not have to take place on a public forum.
Ok I'm not here to Pick fights or take sides... However Some people are getting a lot of things twisted. As far as I know David received A Larger Original 1/1 canvas as a way of saying sorry for messing up the order. However he still wanted his 1/5 that he paid for not the larger 1/1 original which is a much better deal. On top of that he received an extra three free originals.. Ali has done a great job in trying to rectify this problem and this discussion should not have to take place on a public forum.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Guest on Apr 27, 2011 23:01:53 GMT 1, Please keep the art you have, leave me alone.. what more can i say. i have spent hours trying to reply to your emails.. i have them all in my sent items. Its very frustrating, confusing and annoying.
You also mentioned you are a friend & a fan, not once did you mention you are Cartrains agent despite me asking for any connections you had with the artist. Did you not think that could come across a little underhand?
Please keep the art you have, leave me alone.. what more can i say. i have spent hours trying to reply to your emails.. i have them all in my sent items. Its very frustrating, confusing and annoying. You also mentioned you are a friend & a fan, not once did you mention you are Cartrains agent despite me asking for any connections you had with the artist. Did you not think that could come across a little underhand? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Damien on Apr 27, 2011 23:01:11 GMT 1, Ok I'm not here to Pick fights or take sides... However Some people are getting a lot of things twisted. As far as I know David received A Larger Original 1/1 canvas as a way of saying sorry for messing up the order. However he still wanted his 1/5 that he paid for not the larger 1/1 original which is a much better deal. On top of that he received an extra three free originals.. Ali has done a great job in trying to rectify this problem and this discussion should not have to take place on a public forum.
sounds fair, not sure why he would expect to keep it all
Ok I'm not here to Pick fights or take sides... However Some people are getting a lot of things twisted. As far as I know David received A Larger Original 1/1 canvas as a way of saying sorry for messing up the order. However he still wanted his 1/5 that he paid for not the larger 1/1 original which is a much better deal. On top of that he received an extra three free originals.. Ali has done a great job in trying to rectify this problem and this discussion should not have to take place on a public forum. sounds fair, not sure why he would expect to keep it all |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by danmuppet on Apr 27, 2011 23:04:01 GMT 1, If you pay for something in particular but don't get it- then u surly must get your money back if you want it SIMPLES!
If you pay for something in particular but don't get it- then u surly must get your money back if you want it SIMPLES!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by theleveller on Apr 27, 2011 23:06:25 GMT 1, If your agent gets confused by sending 5 parcels out you need a new agent... plus the guys gets stressed, fucking hell 5 tubes in six months Ali you need a lie down.... now traincars side... nope not much better!
You both sound so lazy, Ali your agents got stressed over 1 mail, and you haven't completed with an appropriate artwork....
Cartrain, why don't you just offer this guy a refund? Ali your a joke imo.... this is bad beyond...
If your agent gets confused by sending 5 parcels out you need a new agent... plus the guys gets stressed, fucking hell 5 tubes in six months Ali you need a lie down.... now traincars side... nope not much better!
You both sound so lazy, Ali your agents got stressed over 1 mail, and you haven't completed with an appropriate artwork....
Cartrain, why don't you just offer this guy a refund? Ali your a joke imo.... this is bad beyond...
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Damien on Apr 27, 2011 23:06:36 GMT 1, he hasn't asked for refund, he wants two canvasses instead of one
he hasn't asked for refund, he wants two canvasses instead of one
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by stringer64 on Apr 27, 2011 23:07:35 GMT 1, I have to say that if I received a larger 1/1 and three extra free originals I would have been very happy.
I have to say that if I received a larger 1/1 and three extra free originals I would have been very happy.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 23:09:13 GMT 1, I have to say that if I received a larger 1/1 and three extra free originals I would have been very happy.
Me too.
I have to say that if I received a larger 1/1 and three extra free originals I would have been very happy. Me too. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alistairkhalil on Apr 27, 2011 23:10:26 GMT 1, Your all getting confused.. Being disrespectful and completely misunderstanding the situation...
He has received what he paid for! He received more that what he paid for. He made multiple confusing requests that where all met.
So please stop being rude and commenting for the sake of commenting...
I have been very clear with David from the start, He has been very confusing.
This is all very rude..
Your all getting confused.. Being disrespectful and completely misunderstanding the situation...
He has received what he paid for! He received more that what he paid for. He made multiple confusing requests that where all met.
So please stop being rude and commenting for the sake of commenting...
I have been very clear with David from the start, He has been very confusing.
This is all very rude..
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Yervi on Apr 27, 2011 23:10:52 GMT 1, I have to say that if I received a larger 1/1 and three extra free originals I would have been very happy.
agreed
I have to say that if I received a larger 1/1 and three extra free originals I would have been very happy. agreed |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by theleveller on Apr 27, 2011 23:12:53 GMT 1, If thats the case, then just give him the canvas he brought... re do it exactly how he wanted it!
He's paid you after all.... the client is always right!
If thats the case, then just give him the canvas he brought... re do it exactly how he wanted it!
He's paid you after all.... the client is always right!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Guest on Apr 27, 2011 23:12:56 GMT 1, You still haven't answered my question re the connection though, that's not rude. Just unprofessional practices.
You still haven't answered my question re the connection though, that's not rude. Just unprofessional practices.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by skem on Apr 27, 2011 23:15:55 GMT 1, Since when did Cartrain get a (secret) agent?
Since when did Cartrain get a (secret) agent?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by curiousgeorge on Apr 27, 2011 23:17:14 GMT 1, Fortunate for Cartrain he and his agent have come here and explained everything clearly, else this could have turned into a right pr disaster
Quick on the ball lads,well done
Phew multi-page thread full of untruths avoided
Fortunate for Cartrain he and his agent have come here and explained everything clearly, else this could have turned into a right pr disaster
Quick on the ball lads,well done
Phew multi-page thread full of untruths avoided
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hlarmy on Apr 27, 2011 23:25:40 GMT 1, I'm not sure of the full story here but for the sake of preserving the integrity of Ali, I have had some very good dealings with him in the past and know him to be very up front and honest. Hopefully this will all be resolved in a way that everyone is happy...
I'm not sure of the full story here but for the sake of preserving the integrity of Ali, I have had some very good dealings with him in the past and know him to be very up front and honest. Hopefully this will all be resolved in a way that everyone is happy... |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by illu on Apr 27, 2011 23:30:25 GMT 1, I'm not sure of the full story here but for the sake of preserving the integrity of Ali, I have had some very good dealings with him in the past and know him to be very up front and honest. Hopefully this will all be resolved in a way that everyone is happy...
also had some very friendly contact with ali and at the end of the day I would be happy with a 1/1 canvas plus freebies, no matter who did it
I'm not sure of the full story here but for the sake of preserving the integrity of Ali, I have had some very good dealings with him in the past and know him to be very up front and honest. Hopefully this will all be resolved in a way that everyone is happy... also had some very friendly contact with ali and at the end of the day I would be happy with a 1/1 canvas plus freebies, no matter who did it |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Guest on Apr 27, 2011 23:33:00 GMT 1, He's not been up front and honest with regards to his connection with cartrain though!
He's not been up front and honest with regards to his connection with cartrain though!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by illu on Apr 27, 2011 23:37:01 GMT 1, He's not been up front and honest with regards to his connection with cartrain though!
you are right about that , but for me that isn't a problem
He's not been up front and honest with regards to his connection with cartrain though! you are right about that , but for me that isn't a problem |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by des77 on Apr 27, 2011 23:37:29 GMT 1, I'm not sure of the full story here but for the sake of preserving the integrity of Ali, I have had some very good dealings with him in the past and know him to be very up front and honest.
What happened the day he denied being anything other than a friend of cartrain and a fan of his work ?
I'm not sure of the full story here but for the sake of preserving the integrity of Ali, I have had some very good dealings with him in the past and know him to be very up front and honest. What happened the day he denied being anything other than a friend of cartrain and a fan of his work ? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by skitchy on Apr 27, 2011 23:41:55 GMT 1, alistairkhalil came on here as a new member giving it the biguns about cartrains 'new website' and denying any involvement claiming to be 'a fan, collector and a friend.
Now this alistairkhalil kid is the new steve laz. (can't wait for the gallery).
this whole thing is just f***ing stupid and such an obvious scam, completely degrades this forum and is yet more PR for cartrain.
why anyone would spend hard earned cash for this stuff is beyond me.
alistairkhalil came on here as a new member giving it the biguns about cartrains 'new website' and denying any involvement claiming to be 'a fan, collector and a friend.
Now this alistairkhalil kid is the new steve laz. (can't wait for the gallery).
this whole thing is just f***ing stupid and such an obvious scam, completely degrades this forum and is yet more PR for cartrain.
why anyone would spend hard earned cash for this stuff is beyond me.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Warm Gun on Apr 27, 2011 23:48:50 GMT 1, What a strange turn of events.
What a strange turn of events.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Guest on Apr 27, 2011 23:51:33 GMT 1, He's not been up front and honest with regards to his connection with cartrain though! you are right about that , but for me that isn't a problem
If you have a financial interest in the artist then clarity is always key. it's not professional to big up any artist, then claim to be a fan/friend when really you are making money on the back of what you are posting as an independent member. IMO
He's not been up front and honest with regards to his connection with cartrain though! you are right about that , but for me that isn't a problem If you have a financial interest in the artist then clarity is always key. it's not professional to big up any artist, then claim to be a fan/friend when really you are making money on the back of what you are posting as an independent member. IMO |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by illu on Apr 27, 2011 23:57:33 GMT 1, you are right about that , but for me that isn't a problem If you have a financial interest in the artist then clarity is always key. it's not professional to big up any artist, then claim to be a fan/friend when really you are making money on the back of what you are posting as an independent member. IMO
good argument!
you are right about that , but for me that isn't a problem If you have a financial interest in the artist then clarity is always key. it's not professional to big up any artist, then claim to be a fan/friend when really you are making money on the back of what you are posting as an independent member. IMO good argument! |
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