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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Oliver Winconek on Dec 16, 2008 16:58:35 GMT 1, That's all very well and good but you still haven't clarified how old you are, typically this wouldn't matter in the slightest but you seem to be very keen to hide behind the poor little 16 year old schoolboy who all the adults keep picking on. Care to de-mystify?
That's all very well and good but you still haven't clarified how old you are, typically this wouldn't matter in the slightest but you seem to be very keen to hide behind the poor little 16 year old schoolboy who all the adults keep picking on. Care to de-mystify?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by loucastel on Dec 16, 2008 17:09:38 GMT 1, That's all very well and good but you still haven't clarified how old you are, typically this wouldn't matter in the slightest but you seem to be very keen to hide behind the poor little 16 year old schoolboy who all the adults keep picking on. Care to de-mystify?
I am no fan of Cartrain's work and I dont know Cartrain, but why this has to be resurected every time, especially by another artist, really does mystyfy me, why give a damn if he is 16 or 116, does it affect you on some personal level? I think your work Oliver, on the whole is passable, but there again mega expensive for what it is, but I dont go on about it.
Why not just concentrate on the art?
That's all very well and good but you still haven't clarified how old you are, typically this wouldn't matter in the slightest but you seem to be very keen to hide behind the poor little 16 year old schoolboy who all the adults keep picking on. Care to de-mystify? I am no fan of Cartrain's work and I dont know Cartrain, but why this has to be resurected every time, especially by another artist, really does mystyfy me, why give a damn if he is 16 or 116, does it affect you on some personal level? I think your work Oliver, on the whole is passable, but there again mega expensive for what it is, but I dont go on about it. Why not just concentrate on the art? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hero on Dec 16, 2008 17:13:10 GMT 1, That's all very well and good but you still haven't clarified how old you are, typically this wouldn't matter in the slightest but you seem to be very keen to hide behind the poor little 16 year old schoolboy who all the adults keep picking on. Care to de-mystify? I am no fan of Cartrain's work and I dont know Cartrain, but why this has to be resurected every time, especially by another artist, really does mystyfy me, why give a damn if he is 16 or 116, does it affect you on some personal level? I think your work Oliver, on the whole is passable, but there again mega expensive for what it is, but I dont go on about it. Why not just concentrate on the art?
perhaps because one of the POS (points of sale) of cartrains work is that he is 15/16/17/18/116 years old...if no-one was going to say
"is that a banksy on your wall, horatio"
"no its a cartrain-he is just like banksy but 16"
"oh yah, rerly interesting"
then it would not matter ;D
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That's all very well and good but you still haven't clarified how old you are, typically this wouldn't matter in the slightest but you seem to be very keen to hide behind the poor little 16 year old schoolboy who all the adults keep picking on. Care to de-mystify? I am no fan of Cartrain's work and I dont know Cartrain, but why this has to be resurected every time, especially by another artist, really does mystyfy me, why give a damn if he is 16 or 116, does it affect you on some personal level? I think your work Oliver, on the whole is passable, but there again mega expensive for what it is, but I dont go on about it. Why not just concentrate on the art? perhaps because one of the POS (points of sale) of cartrains work is that he is 15/16/17/18/116 years old...if no-one was going to say "is that a banksy on your wall, horatio" "no its a cartrain-he is just like banksy but 16" "oh yah, rerly interesting" then it would not matter ;D H |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Existencil on Dec 16, 2008 17:17:03 GMT 1, Cartrain is only 8 years old, but he's a fucking legend.
Cartrain is only 8 years old, but he's a fucking legend.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Oliver Winconek on Dec 16, 2008 17:22:03 GMT 1, That's all very well and good but you still haven't clarified how old you are, typically this wouldn't matter in the slightest but you seem to be very keen to hide behind the poor little 16 year old schoolboy who all the adults keep picking on. Care to de-mystify? I am no fan of Cartrain's work and I dont know Cartrain, but why this has to be resurected every time, especially by another artist, really does mystyfy me, why give a damn if he is 16 or 116, does it affect you on some personal level? I think your work Oliver, on the whole is passable, but there again mega expensive for what it is, but I dont go on about it. Why not just concentrate on the art?
As far as I am concerned, if Cartrain is 15,16,17 then what he has achieved in a short space of time is pretty impressive, might not be the biggest fan of his work but when I think of what I was doing at that age i would never have had the balls to pull off some of the stunts that Cartrain has. I was simply saying that it would be good if he would just say once and for all to clear up the confusion so that people know the truth for once and for all
That's all very well and good but you still haven't clarified how old you are, typically this wouldn't matter in the slightest but you seem to be very keen to hide behind the poor little 16 year old schoolboy who all the adults keep picking on. Care to de-mystify? I am no fan of Cartrain's work and I dont know Cartrain, but why this has to be resurected every time, especially by another artist, really does mystyfy me, why give a damn if he is 16 or 116, does it affect you on some personal level? I think your work Oliver, on the whole is passable, but there again mega expensive for what it is, but I dont go on about it. Why not just concentrate on the art? As far as I am concerned, if Cartrain is 15,16,17 then what he has achieved in a short space of time is pretty impressive, might not be the biggest fan of his work but when I think of what I was doing at that age i would never have had the balls to pull off some of the stunts that Cartrain has. I was simply saying that it would be good if he would just say once and for all to clear up the confusion so that people know the truth for once and for all |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Daniel Silk on Dec 16, 2008 17:26:56 GMT 1, As far as I know he's 17.
But his ages goes up one ever year  so at some point what I have said will be wrong and he will be 18 ;D
As far as I know he's 17. But his ages goes up one ever year so at some point what I have said will be wrong and he will be 18 ;D |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hero on Dec 16, 2008 17:29:20 GMT 1, isnt monky art prints younger than him :/
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isnt monky art prints younger than him :/
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by schlomo on Dec 16, 2008 17:32:19 GMT 1, Ah, the old he is 17 but will be 18 either in the next few weeks, or next year ploy eh silky??
I cant see why it matters. If he's 16 or 17 then fair play to have so much balls, if he's not then fair play to be making art and enjoying himself.
Ah, the old he is 17 but will be 18 either in the next few weeks, or next year ploy eh silky??
I cant see why it matters. If he's 16 or 17 then fair play to have so much balls, if he's not then fair play to be making art and enjoying himself.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by funster on Dec 16, 2008 18:24:56 GMT 1, This is my first comment ever on a Cartrain thread, despite reading them all. For what it's worth I've communicated with Cartrain a couple of times via pm and found him friendly and helpful. As for his age I believe he's probably fairly young - but who cares. This is where Banksy has been clever, we don't know him, his mother, his age, his opinions etc etc. Maybe Cartrain will learn to shut up a bit, but it's (imo) not for us to judge. Judge the art, if you still don't like it thats fine, just move along.
This is my first comment ever on a Cartrain thread, despite reading them all. For what it's worth I've communicated with Cartrain a couple of times via pm and found him friendly and helpful. As for his age I believe he's probably fairly young - but who cares. This is where Banksy has been clever, we don't know him, his mother, his age, his opinions etc etc. Maybe Cartrain will learn to shut up a bit, but it's (imo) not for us to judge. Judge the art, if you still don't like it thats fine, just move along.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by gozgoz on Dec 16, 2008 20:14:27 GMT 1, That's all very well and good but you still haven't clarified how old you are, typically this wouldn't matter in the slightest but you seem to be very keen to hide behind the poor little 16 year old schoolboy who all the adults keep picking on. Care to de-mystify?
im very stunned and disappointed this came from another artist especially one I happen to like.
Does it really matter?
Ive no idea what your age is, nor who your parents are or what they eat for breakfast. But i enjoy your art and thats that.
No one has any idea who banksy is or his parents are. He didnt care to de-mystify. Why shld Cartrain?
And if you do bother reading Cartrain's threads, he doesnt actually hide behind it nor intentionally want to confuse people. Its just something he thinks isnt very relevant. And i totally agree with him.
Im not gonna judge your art cos ive no idea what your granny eats for lunch.
That's all very well and good but you still haven't clarified how old you are, typically this wouldn't matter in the slightest but you seem to be very keen to hide behind the poor little 16 year old schoolboy who all the adults keep picking on. Care to de-mystify? im very stunned and disappointed this came from another artist especially one I happen to like. Does it really matter? Ive no idea what your age is, nor who your parents are or what they eat for breakfast. But i enjoy your art and thats that. No one has any idea who banksy is or his parents are. He didnt care to de-mystify. Why shld Cartrain? And if you do bother reading Cartrain's threads, he doesnt actually hide behind it nor intentionally want to confuse people. Its just something he thinks isnt very relevant. And i totally agree with him. Im not gonna judge your art cos ive no idea what your granny eats for lunch. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by They call me Stephen on Dec 16, 2008 20:26:00 GMT 1, ^^hear hear....i don't see why cartrain gets such a rough ride on here when the talents of many of the red starred members (not aimed at you oliver) is questionable at best.
not all art needs to be painstakingly obvious as to what it is about, in fact many of my favourite pieces are ones where the user can give it their own meaning and it is not as simple as 1+1=2
cartrain is doing work and getting it out there and for that gets my respect.
now how old are you you young bastard! ;D
^^hear hear....i don't see why cartrain gets such a rough ride on here when the talents of many of the red starred members (not aimed at you oliver) is questionable at best.
not all art needs to be painstakingly obvious as to what it is about, in fact many of my favourite pieces are ones where the user can give it their own meaning and it is not as simple as 1+1=2
cartrain is doing work and getting it out there and for that gets my respect.
now how old are you you young bastard! ;D
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by afroken on Dec 16, 2008 20:37:16 GMT 1, Judging by Cartrain's little rampage on WK the other day, I'd be surprised if he is as old as 16. I've never had a bad word to say about him, but any respect I had has been spent.
Judging by Cartrain's little rampage on WK the other day, I'd be surprised if he is as old as 16. I've never had a bad word to say about him, but any respect I had has been spent.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hero on Dec 16, 2008 20:44:34 GMT 1, Judging by Cartrain's little rampage on WK the other day, I'd be surprised if he is as old as 16. I've never had a bad word to say about him, but any respect I had has been spent.
WK?
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Judging by Cartrain's little rampage on WK the other day, I'd be surprised if he is as old as 16. I've never had a bad word to say about him, but any respect I had has been spent. WK? H |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by prole on Dec 16, 2008 20:50:06 GMT 1, Judging by Cartrain's little rampage on WK the other day, I'd be surprised if he is as old as 16. I've never had a bad word to say about him, but any respect I had has been spent. WK? H
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Judging by Cartrain's little rampage on WK the other day, I'd be surprised if he is as old as 16. I've never had a bad word to say about him, but any respect I had has been spent. WK? H wallK andy |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by rosstierney on Dec 16, 2008 20:53:18 GMT 1, i'd be very surprised if cartrain composed his original post judging by previous posts i've read
gozgoz, whether you like ow's work or not, to say you're dissapointed with something he said . . .
artist are human too & you'll find many don't post because it's like walking on thin ice in the sense that their views might contradict those of a fan, potentially losing them
i'd be very surprised if cartrain composed his original post judging by previous posts i've read
gozgoz, whether you like ow's work or not, to say you're dissapointed with something he said . . .
artist are human too & you'll find many don't post because it's like walking on thin ice in the sense that their views might contradict those of a fan, potentially losing them
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by uksnowman on Dec 16, 2008 20:55:46 GMT 1, Cartrain is only 8 years old, but he's a f**king legend.
Cartrain has fairly impressive pyschology knowledge for an 8 year old. I reckon he had some help on that post
Cartrain is only 8 years old, but he's a f**king legend. Cartrain has fairly impressive pyschology knowledge for an 8 year old. I reckon he had some help on that post |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hero on Dec 16, 2008 20:55:50 GMT 1, WK? H wallK andy
what did he do?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Oliver Winconek on Dec 16, 2008 21:04:39 GMT 1, Hi everyone, guess I'd just like to apologise for my post mentioning Cartrains age, I'd had a bit to drink and don't think my mind was fully functioning! My reason for mentioning Cartrains age was I am sick of hearing people asking so just wanted to get the definitive answer so we could move on. Shame I didn't think about it or I would have realised I was just fuelling the fire. It doesn't really matter how old Cartrain is, despite the fact that if he is as young as mid-teens then he deserves a lot of respect for what he is doing, whether you like his work or not the guy has got guts and and puts a fair amount up on the street, hasn't really sold out by producing huge print runs or tying himself in with a slew of galleries, producing an abundance of 'street work' on canvas. He is obviously very passionate about what he does so I guess it's time to move on.....
Hi everyone, guess I'd just like to apologise for my post mentioning Cartrains age, I'd had a bit to drink and don't think my mind was fully functioning! My reason for mentioning Cartrains age was I am sick of hearing people asking so just wanted to get the definitive answer so we could move on. Shame I didn't think about it or I would have realised I was just fuelling the fire. It doesn't really matter how old Cartrain is, despite the fact that if he is as young as mid-teens then he deserves a lot of respect for what he is doing, whether you like his work or not the guy has got guts and and puts a fair amount up on the street, hasn't really sold out by producing huge print runs or tying himself in with a slew of galleries, producing an abundance of 'street work' on canvas. He is obviously very passionate about what he does so I guess it's time to move on.....
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Guy Denning on Dec 16, 2008 21:05:03 GMT 1, I'm sixteen - and so's my wife.
I just look worn out.
I'm sixteen - and so's my wife.
I just look worn out.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by afroken on Dec 16, 2008 22:30:42 GMT 1,
Go read it yourself. I believe his username over there niartrac.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by digitalkid on Dec 16, 2008 23:12:33 GMT 1, I'm sixteen - and so's my wife. I just look worn out.
You had a tough paper round...
I'm sixteen - and so's my wife. I just look worn out. You had a tough paper round... |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hero on Dec 16, 2008 23:16:17 GMT 1, cant find it
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by afroken on Dec 16, 2008 23:23:40 GMT 1, scroll down to:
The Day Cartrain decided to do Stand Up
/index.cgi?board=test&action=display&thread=2603&page=15
scroll down to:
The Day Cartrain decided to do Stand Up
/index.cgi?board=test&action=display&thread=2603&page=15
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by afroken on Dec 16, 2008 23:24:30 GMT 1, let me try that again:
[a href="veart.proboards53.com/index.cgi?board=test&action=display&thread=2603&page=15"]veart.proboards53.com/index.cgi?board=test&action=display&thread=2603&page=15[/a]
let me try that again: [a href=" veart.prob oards53.com/index.cgi?board=test&action=display&thread=2603&page=15"] veart.prob oards53.com/index.cgi?board=test&action=display&thread=2603&page=15[/a] |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hero on Dec 16, 2008 23:25:49 GMT 1, account pending aproval 
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coppy and paste in a pm ;D
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by underpaidartist on Dec 16, 2008 23:43:34 GMT 1, i have been reading about cartrain with interest both on here and on some press sites. it is clear that his gallery are employing PR tactics to garner news surface. One thing I have noticed is his age seems to be a key point in pretty much all articles and what has struck me is the age isn't consistent so I too am curious of age and don't see why some people here seem to get so defensive about the question being asked. If age is deemed to be relevant in the the PR press by the artist and gallery then its relevant here.
what is wallkandy ?
i have been reading about cartrain with interest both on here and on some press sites. it is clear that his gallery are employing PR tactics to garner news surface. One thing I have noticed is his age seems to be a key point in pretty much all articles and what has struck me is the age isn't consistent so I too am curious of age and don't see why some people here seem to get so defensive about the question being asked. If age is deemed to be relevant in the the PR press by the artist and gallery then its relevant here.
what is wallkandy ?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by afroken on Dec 16, 2008 23:50:04 GMT 1,
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by sfdoddsy on Dec 17, 2008 0:47:51 GMT 1, None of this changes the fact that the collage that opened this thread is amateurish rubbish. The explanation actually makes it even more rubbishy by asking us to take it seriously.
None of this changes the fact that the collage that opened this thread is amateurish rubbish. The explanation actually makes it even more rubbishy by asking us to take it seriously.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hero on Dec 17, 2008 0:56:33 GMT 1, that is basically my view, if they are going to use it as his USP then why should they never state his age
wallkandy is another forum-its less busy but apparently is much more opinionated
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that is basically my view, if they are going to use it as his USP then why should they never state his age
wallkandy is another forum-its less busy but apparently is much more opinionated
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so at some point what I have said will be wrong and he will be 18 ;D
