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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Guest on Sept 7, 2009 22:13:21 GMT 1, great collection of art, thanks for the post.
great collection of art, thanks for the post.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hlarmy on Sept 7, 2009 22:23:18 GMT 1, Cheers Silky; 1 down, 4 to go 
Edit: all done, there's a huge Napalm, Toxic Mary and one other Banksy, all in part 4 for those who don't want to watch the whole thing! 
Cheers Silky; 1 down, 4 to go Edit: all done, there's a huge Napalm, Toxic Mary and one other Banksy, all in part 4 for those who don't want to watch the whole thing! |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by crazyarsemother on Sept 8, 2009 8:46:56 GMT 1, Artists keep talking about how much he respects their work. Maybe its a matter of respect that lies at the bottom of all this.
Artists keep talking about how much he respects their work. Maybe its a matter of respect that lies at the bottom of all this.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by galen1 on Sept 8, 2009 9:09:05 GMT 1, No..........but Is it any different to the theft of road signs for example, something which has been done by a few on here without condemnation. Interesting that it's the Tate though, a museum built on the proceeds of sugar plantations and slavery which could be called the biggest theft in history a road sign isnt worth 10 million quid... i would hapily steal a road sign knowing its worth only a few bob, i wouldnt steal part of an art work from a museum knowing its going to be worth millions.. thats high scale + value theft. you should go to jail for that. Like anyone else who has stolen a masterpeice from a museum has done in the past.. i think we are looking at a custodial sentence for this. and he is over 18 so will go to jail. yup, he is over 18, otherwise on his bail form it would have to be signed by an adult if he was a minor. which it isnt. (i have good experience in bail forms  )
Nobody's stolen Β£10million worth of anything though have they ?
The only real difference is that you disapprove of theft from a wealthy individual but think theft from society as a whole is fine, but it's still robbing isn't it ?
I'm sure as the son of a lawyer you must realise that he's not going down for this, in fact by responding you've contributed to the sub-judice, funny hey.
No..........but Is it any different to the theft of road signs for example, something which has been done by a few on here without condemnation. Interesting that it's the Tate though, a museum built on the proceeds of sugar plantations and slavery which could be called the biggest theft in history a road sign isnt worth 10 million quid... i would hapily steal a road sign knowing its worth only a few bob, i wouldnt steal part of an art work from a museum knowing its going to be worth millions.. thats high scale + value theft. you should go to jail for that. Like anyone else who has stolen a masterpeice from a museum has done in the past.. i think we are looking at a custodial sentence for this. and he is over 18 so will go to jail. yup, he is over 18, otherwise on his bail form it would have to be signed by an adult if he was a minor. which it isnt. (i have good experience in bail forms ) Nobody's stolen Β£10million worth of anything though have they ? The only real difference is that you disapprove of theft from a wealthy individual but think theft from society as a whole is fine, but it's still robbing isn't it ? I'm sure as the son of a lawyer you must realise that he's not going down for this, in fact by responding you've contributed to the sub-judice, funny hey. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by richy00 on Sept 8, 2009 11:49:20 GMT 1, cartrain stole part of an installation worth 10 million and the individual item has been valued at 500k.
dad is a lawyer correct, but deals only in contract law and litigation hasnt done criminal law since his days at middle temple.
as for going down for this? who knows. it all depends on what he gets charged with, theft? criminal damage? blackmail? but by the tate valuing the pencils at 500k it makes it all rather serious. Well just have to wait and see. I wouldnt be surprised if we see a short custodial sentence. Its not as if he has good character as a helping hand he has sprayed up half of london.
cartrain stole part of an installation worth 10 million and the individual item has been valued at 500k.
dad is a lawyer correct, but deals only in contract law and litigation hasnt done criminal law since his days at middle temple.
as for going down for this? who knows. it all depends on what he gets charged with, theft? criminal damage? blackmail? but by the tate valuing the pencils at 500k it makes it all rather serious. Well just have to wait and see. I wouldnt be surprised if we see a short custodial sentence. Its not as if he has good character as a helping hand he has sprayed up half of london.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by spencerlee on Sept 8, 2009 12:32:48 GMT 1, Nex, did you delete your post? The answer is yes anyway.
Nex, did you delete your post? The answer is yes anyway.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by nex on Sept 8, 2009 12:34:47 GMT 1, thought it maybe a bit too controversial! well seeing as the answer is yes - all my sympathy (which I had 1ml of ) has dried in the heat on the midday Sun and it's pretty hot today!
thought it maybe a bit too controversial! well seeing as the answer is yes - all my sympathy (which I had 1ml of ) has dried in the heat on the midday Sun and it's pretty hot today!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by randys on Sept 8, 2009 12:36:16 GMT 1, I'm pretty sure all posts on the subject were deleted aswell to cover his back!
I'm pretty sure all posts on the subject were deleted aswell to cover his back!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bazzj04 on Sept 8, 2009 13:14:25 GMT 1, hmmm allot of coverage there
hmmm allot of coverage there
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by G-Man on Sept 8, 2009 13:27:03 GMT 1, We have to wait until the 11th then for the conclusion to this thread!!!! ??
We have to wait until the 11th then for the conclusion to this thread!!!! ?? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by richy00 on Sept 8, 2009 13:35:45 GMT 1, nah, thats just when they decide if to charge him with anything, set new bail conditions if so and set a court date..
this one if it goes ahead will take a while.
nah, thats just when they decide if to charge him with anything, set new bail conditions if so and set a court date..
this one if it goes ahead will take a while.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alsbabar on Sept 8, 2009 13:45:31 GMT 1, getting publicity for pulling a stunt like this or going to jail doesnt make an artist an overnight hit does it - look at Borf, he served a custodial sentence, but still hasn't broken the big time. In my opinion Borf is far more talented and is being represented by better people/galleries. This stunt just goes to show how talentless some artist are, where they have to do battle with another to gain notoriety, jumping on the back of another artist to build up their rep.
Hirst's reputation will go unblemished, perhaps with the exception of a few people on here, but Cartrain's has been damaged beyond repair imo. The people like a Robin Hood character, the underdog, the antiestablishment, but they already have one. All they will see is that this is another wannabe, and will soon get bored of him as he has used up his 5 mins of fame. You also know that he and his gallerist will milk this to the max, and when it has run its course, another pathetic stunt will be attempted, because the art isnt any good, so try other methods
getting publicity for pulling a stunt like this or going to jail doesnt make an artist an overnight hit does it - look at Borf, he served a custodial sentence, but still hasn't broken the big time. In my opinion Borf is far more talented and is being represented by better people/galleries. This stunt just goes to show how talentless some artist are, where they have to do battle with another to gain notoriety, jumping on the back of another artist to build up their rep.
Hirst's reputation will go unblemished, perhaps with the exception of a few people on here, but Cartrain's has been damaged beyond repair imo. The people like a Robin Hood character, the underdog, the antiestablishment, but they already have one. All they will see is that this is another wannabe, and will soon get bored of him as he has used up his 5 mins of fame. You also know that he and his gallerist will milk this to the max, and when it has run its course, another pathetic stunt will be attempted, because the art isnt any good, so try other methods
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hlarmy on Sept 8, 2009 13:51:06 GMT 1, getting publicity for pulling a stunt like this or going to jail doesnt make an artist an overnight hit does it - look at Borf, he served a custodial sentence, but still hasn't broken the big time.
No, but it certainly helps do you not think?
What did Borf do?
getting publicity for pulling a stunt like this or going to jail doesnt make an artist an overnight hit does it - look at Borf, he served a custodial sentence, but still hasn't broken the big time. No, but it certainly helps do you not think? What did Borf do? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Daniel Silk on Sept 8, 2009 14:04:59 GMT 1, This stunt just goes to show how talentless some artist are, where they have to do battle with another to gain notoriety, jumping on the back of another artist to build up their rep.
I agree 100% ;D Its really sad to see an artist like Damien Hirst pulling a stunt like this funny that it seems to have backfired on him ;D
This stunt just goes to show how talentless some artist are, where they have to do battle with another to gain notoriety, jumping on the back of another artist to build up their rep. I agree 100% ;D Its really sad to see an artist like Damien Hirst pulling a stunt like this funny that it seems to have backfired on him ;D |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bazzj04 on Sept 8, 2009 14:22:37 GMT 1, Why did someone retract the last comment ?. You sounded like you felt very strongly regaurding the utcome , and that it was not a laughing matter?.
Why did someone retract the last comment ?. You sounded like you felt very strongly regaurding the utcome , and that it was not a laughing matter?.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by randys on Sept 8, 2009 14:27:25 GMT 1, This stunt just goes to show how talentless some artist are, where they have to do battle with another to gain notoriety, jumping on the back of another artist to build up their rep. I agree 100% ;D Its really sad to see an artist like Damien Hirst pulling a stunt like this funny that it seems to have backfired on him ;D
This stunt just goes to show how talentless some artist are, where they have to do battle with another to gain notoriety, jumping on the back of another artist to build up their rep. I agree 100% ;D Its really sad to see an artist like Damien Hirst pulling a stunt like this funny that it seems to have backfired on him ;D |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by richy00 on Sept 8, 2009 14:35:30 GMT 1, i know cartrain is your little pet but does this mean you condone theft?
whats your view on it silky?
i know cartrain is your little pet but does this mean you condone theft?
whats your view on it silky?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by richy00 on Sept 8, 2009 14:38:00 GMT 1, he could also be hit with a charge of concealing or converting criminal property (max sentence 12months custodial) as he was selling the prints on the back of the theft..
he could also be hit with a charge of concealing or converting criminal property (max sentence 12months custodial) as he was selling the prints on the back of the theft..
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Daniel Silk on Sept 8, 2009 14:38:25 GMT 1, i know cartrain is your little pet but does this mean you condone theft? whats your view on it silky?
I think it was a stupid thing for Cartrain to do, but I also think Damien Hirst has handled the situation really badly.
i know cartrain is your little pet but does this mean you condone theft? whats your view on it silky? I think it was a stupid thing for Cartrain to do, but I also think Damien Hirst has handled the situation really badly. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by nah on Sept 8, 2009 14:41:57 GMT 1, Wouldn't surprise me if throughout this entire ''feud'' Hirst hasn't even known of Cartrain's existence
Wouldn't surprise me if throughout this entire ''feud'' Hirst hasn't even known of Cartrain's existence
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alsbabar on Sept 8, 2009 14:45:12 GMT 1, but you are just as culpable silky, firstly for encouraging him to do so, by alllowing him to post his intentions and actions on here, and secondly for allowing his gallerist to promote and cash in on it here also. So you could potentially be cited as an accessory before, during and after the fact
but you are just as culpable silky, firstly for encouraging him to do so, by alllowing him to post his intentions and actions on here, and secondly for allowing his gallerist to promote and cash in on it here also. So you could potentially be cited as an accessory before, during and after the fact
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Daniel Silk on Sept 8, 2009 14:54:58 GMT 1, but you are just as culpable silky, firstly for encouraging him to do so, by alllowing him to post his intentions and actions on here, and secondly for allowing his gallerist to promote and cash in on it here also. So you could potentially be cited as an accessory before, during and after the fact
Completely Ridiculous! 
but you are just as culpable silky, firstly for encouraging him to do so, by alllowing him to post his intentions and actions on here, and secondly for allowing his gallerist to promote and cash in on it here also. So you could potentially be cited as an accessory before, during and after the fact Completely Ridiculous! |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bazzj04 on Sept 8, 2009 14:59:41 GMT 1, but you are just as culpable silky, firstly for encouraging him to do so, by alllowing him to post his intentions and actions on here, and secondly for allowing his gallerist to promote and cash in on it here also. So you could potentially be cited as an accessory before, during and after the fact
Thats just silly, its a forum , Silky cant be held responsable for all posts otherwise it be pointless having opinions , its like saying because you are responding here now you are promoting cartrain for bringing up the issue again, Which is madness, just see what happens yeah . I think its Stupid of Hirst to press this charges , its a pack of pencils, Jeezz.
Commence comments about you wouldnt steal from a gallery etc etc , pencils people its pencils off the shelf pencils , ,,
but you are just as culpable silky, firstly for encouraging him to do so, by alllowing him to post his intentions and actions on here, and secondly for allowing his gallerist to promote and cash in on it here also. So you could potentially be cited as an accessory before, during and after the fact Thats just silly, its a forum , Silky cant be held responsable for all posts otherwise it be pointless having opinions , its like saying because you are responding here now you are promoting cartrain for bringing up the issue again, Which is madness, just see what happens yeah . I think its Stupid of Hirst to press this charges , its a pack of pencils, Jeezz. Commence comments about you wouldnt steal from a gallery etc etc , pencils people its pencils off the shelf pencils , ,, |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by dudebro17 on Sept 8, 2009 15:02:35 GMT 1, As a lawyer, Ali has a point. Just sayin, be careful Dan.
I think the greatest finale for this stunt would be if that kid winds up spending a year in jail for this. Now that would impress me. Going to jail for art. Now that is art.
As a lawyer, Ali has a point. Just sayin, be careful Dan.
I think the greatest finale for this stunt would be if that kid winds up spending a year in jail for this. Now that would impress me. Going to jail for art. Now that is art.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alsbabar on Sept 8, 2009 15:05:13 GMT 1, You would like to think wouldn't you Silky that you cannot be made accountable. However, given that Hirst's lawyers have imposed a ban on Cartrain from posting on forums (which i would presume means this one), then you can be sure they are aware of this forum, and are aware of you owning it, after all, all you need to do is a little research and you can find out who the owner of this site is.
Trust me, you can be cited as an acccessory - there is enough evidence on this thread alone to support (not taking in to account the other threads) any possible action against you.
You would like to think wouldn't you Silky that you cannot be made accountable. However, given that Hirst's lawyers have imposed a ban on Cartrain from posting on forums (which i would presume means this one), then you can be sure they are aware of this forum, and are aware of you owning it, after all, all you need to do is a little research and you can find out who the owner of this site is.
Trust me, you can be cited as an acccessory - there is enough evidence on this thread alone to support (not taking in to account the other threads) any possible action against you.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by They call me Stephen on Sept 8, 2009 15:05:59 GMT 1, I think the greatest finale for this stunt would be if that kid winds up spending a year in jail for this. Now that would impress me. Going to jail for art. Now that is art.
just as long as 100artworks go as well so i don't have to read or hear about their self hyped shit
I think the greatest finale for this stunt would be if that kid winds up spending a year in jail for this. Now that would impress me. Going to jail for art. Now that is art. just as long as 100artworks go as well so i don't have to read or hear about their self hyped shit |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bazzj04 on Sept 8, 2009 15:11:39 GMT 1, what for owning something that info has been posted on , I cant see that happening ,,, madness, unless police have notified you saying dont let this person post on your forum and suspend his account then i can see a probklem , and im a police man.
ello ello ello
what for owning something that info has been posted on , I cant see that happening ,,, madness, unless police have notified you saying dont let this person post on your forum and suspend his account then i can see a probklem , and im a police man.
ello ello ello
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by denzil on Sept 8, 2009 15:14:57 GMT 1, remeber cartrains idol and the rest
remeber cartrains idol and the rest
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alsbabar on Sept 8, 2009 15:17:21 GMT 1, what for owning something that info has been posted on , I cant see that happening ,,, madness, unless police have notified you saying dont let this person post on your forum and suspend his account then i can see a probklem , and im a police man. ello ello ello
what do the police know about the law? 
what for owning something that info has been posted on , I cant see that happening ,,, madness, unless police have notified you saying dont let this person post on your forum and suspend his account then i can see a probklem , and im a police man. ello ello ello what do the police know about the law? |
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