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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by manchestermike on Sept 5, 2007 21:10:23 GMT 1, In defence of Dan Baldwin being lambasted and comparing him to doom and gloom, his last print sold out, so is Disney Horror 2... very few Disney Horror 1 remaining.... no new prints in sight for the time being.
This one?
www.harwoodking.com/Dan%20Baldwin/Baldwin%20Current%20Eds/DBFlag/DBFlag.html
Still available matey
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by ABC on Sept 5, 2007 21:14:44 GMT 1, I would buy a poster if Neate did them and they were cheep.
I would buy a poster if Neate did them and they were cheep.
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by scibby on Sept 5, 2007 21:19:44 GMT 1, try to "order" one of the two prints mentioned...
try to "order" one of the two prints mentioned...
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by manchestermike on Sept 5, 2007 21:21:42 GMT 1, try to "order" one of the two prints mentioned...
I'd rather not, not keen on either of them
try to "order" one of the two prints mentioned... I'd rather not, not keen on either of them |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by finsburyparkranger on Sept 5, 2007 22:11:22 GMT 1,
True
False
The medium plays a part in the price depending on how its percieved to compliment that specific piece of art. Different genre's have different expectations. One of the joys of street art is that it is much more liberated from the established traditions and expectations and this includes materials. However, still the old maxim 'The medium definitely plays a part in the price of things', is true even in the street art genre but the effects and expectations are unique and different.
Here we have a few old posters ...
True False The medium plays a part in the price depending on how its percieved to compliment that specific piece of art. Different genre's have different expectations. One of the joys of street art is that it is much more liberated from the established traditions and expectations and this includes materials. However, still the old maxim 'The medium definitely plays a part in the price of things', is true even in the street art genre but the effects and expectations are unique and different. Here we have a few old posters ... |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by biggayal on Sept 5, 2007 22:24:27 GMT 1, Oh boy, yup, keep negging me folks. Show your anger 
No neggin from me old boy - I think that you have a fair point with regards to print prices! It seems like only a few months ago that I thought that ยฃ700 for a print of any kind was super expensive - It seems as if peoples' perception of prices has changed alot in a fairly short space of time....
Oh boy, yup, keep negging me folks. Show your anger No neggin from me old boy - I think that you have a fair point with regards to print prices! It seems like only a few months ago that I thought that ยฃ700 for a print of any kind was super expensive - It seems as if peoples' perception of prices has changed alot in a fairly short space of time.... |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by stuey09 on Sept 5, 2007 22:27:37 GMT 1, Nice buy Al, chuffed for you mate.
Nice buy Al, chuffed for you mate.
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by dgb133 on Sept 5, 2007 22:29:55 GMT 1,
Yeah alright. And of course how iconic the image is very important and also if an artist becomes known for working in a specific medium they can often get top dollar for any medium if that's what they're known for.
The problem with giclee though in my book is as far as archivabillity goes they aren't as good as most other mediums and as far as perception about hand craftsmanship and printmaking goes they're basically a poor mans epson inkjet print with semi archivable inks. Maybe that's a little unfair for me to say and not everyone agrees with me about that but that perception does exist by myself and many. The longevity of a piece of art is definitely one of the factors you should think about whne buying something imo.
Yeah alright. And of course how iconic the image is very important and also if an artist becomes known for working in a specific medium they can often get top dollar for any medium if that's what they're known for.
The problem with giclee though in my book is as far as archivabillity goes they aren't as good as most other mediums and as far as perception about hand craftsmanship and printmaking goes they're basically a poor mans epson inkjet print with semi archivable inks. Maybe that's a little unfair for me to say and not everyone agrees with me about that but that perception does exist by myself and many. The longevity of a piece of art is definitely one of the factors you should think about whne buying something imo.
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by finsburyparkranger on Sept 5, 2007 22:43:39 GMT 1,
Don't dispute it.
Don't dispute it.
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by sausageboonwee on Sept 5, 2007 22:43:57 GMT 1, I think we need a giclee amnesty now. The subject seems to be going round in huge circles.
I think we need a giclee amnesty now. The subject seems to be going round in huge circles.
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by Zippy on Sept 5, 2007 22:44:24 GMT 1, i agree with you. Glicees have a max life of 30 years.
So if you are buying 21st CL at 8k, dont hold onto it for more than 28 years. As the lease will soon be running out!
Z
i agree with you. Glicees have a max life of 30 years.
So if you are buying 21st CL at 8k, dont hold onto it for more than 28 years. As the lease will soon be running out!
Z
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by a4mnt on Sept 5, 2007 22:45:49 GMT 1, I wish i understood the process enough to make a knowledgeable comment. Otherwise all these arguements are over my head. 
I wish i understood the process enough to make a knowledgeable comment. Otherwise all these arguements are over my head. |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by finsburyparkranger on Sept 5, 2007 22:49:51 GMT 1,
Thats not true...
" Giclee prints are printed on acid free watercolor paper with archival inks. Life-span estimates of Giclee's by third-party testing indicate over 75 years with no noticeable fade. When museum quality lighting is used, this time span increases to 175 years+, this is more than most original watercolours".
Thats not true...
" Giclee prints are printed on acid free watercolor paper with archival inks. Life-span estimates of Giclee's by third-party testing indicate over 75 years with no noticeable fade. When museum quality lighting is used, this time span increases to 175 years+, this is more than most original watercolours".
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by Zippy on Sept 5, 2007 23:03:27 GMT 1, FPR i still disagree!
where is your info from?
I work in the print industry and that is where my info is from ie one of the manufacturers!!
but neither of us will know exactly, well not for a few more years!
Z
FPR i still disagree!
where is your info from?
I work in the print industry and that is where my info is from ie one of the manufacturers!!
but neither of us will know exactly, well not for a few more years!
Z
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by dgb133 on Sept 5, 2007 23:04:17 GMT 1, Sorry I've missed any and all giclee threads. I'll let it go from now on. To each his own.
But it appears there is discrepancy about the archivability and call me old fashioned I like a hand pulled litho printed with like 10 or more colors over a giclee any day. If we were talking prints that cost a couple hundred I wouldn't complain about it being a giclee.
Sorry I've missed any and all giclee threads. I'll let it go from now on. To each his own.
But it appears there is discrepancy about the archivability and call me old fashioned I like a hand pulled litho printed with like 10 or more colors over a giclee any day. If we were talking prints that cost a couple hundred I wouldn't complain about it being a giclee.
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by finsburyparkranger on Sept 5, 2007 23:10:50 GMT 1, FPR i still disagree! where is your info from? I work in the print industry and that is where my info is from ie one of the manufacturers!! but neither of us will know exactly, well not for a few more years! Z
So how you can you be putting a 30 year max's on if you can't know? Can you find one article speculating that modern day archival quality giclee prints will only last 30 years?
FPR i still disagree! where is your info from? I work in the print industry and that is where my info is from ie one of the manufacturers!! but neither of us will know exactly, well not for a few more years! Z So how you can you be putting a 30 year max's on if you can't know? Can you find one article speculating that modern day archival quality giclee prints will only last 30 years? |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by manty on Sept 5, 2007 23:15:15 GMT 1, Al, Well done on getting the print at that price, wanna swap for a nothing on tv? :-)
Zippy, just google 'giclee lifespan'
Al, Well done on getting the print at that price, wanna swap for a nothing on tv? :-)
Zippy, just google 'giclee lifespan'
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by carlito on Sept 5, 2007 23:25:15 GMT 1, what an absolute bollox thread this turned into..if u don't like Neate plain simple don't buy a print..end of
what an absolute bollox thread this turned into..if u don't like Neate plain simple don't buy a print..end of
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by skanky on Sept 5, 2007 23:28:23 GMT 1, Nice one Carlito, someone buy this man a drink !
Nice one Carlito, someone buy this man a drink !
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by carlito on Sept 5, 2007 23:30:22 GMT 1, Cheeeers i'll have a double jd an coke 
Cheeeers i'll have a double jd an coke |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by JD on Sept 5, 2007 23:55:36 GMT 1, Longest thread ever?
One thing's for certain
Now everybody knows how much the last Cold War went for !
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
And trust me Im really interested, or was 
Longest thread ever? One thing's for certain Now everybody knows how much the last Cold War went for ! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz And trust me Im really interested, or was |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by dgb133 on Sept 6, 2007 4:25:10 GMT 1,
Problem around here is if you get critical on ANYTHING people get pissed. It's not about whether you "like Neate" it's about whether or not it's worth 1.5k or 3k. But people round here seem to suggest that if you like the "image" who cares about the price or the product. You should sacrifice any amount. Whatever.
Yet another wonderful contribution to the forum. 
Problem around here is if you get critical on ANYTHING people get pissed. It's not about whether you "like Neate" it's about whether or not it's worth 1.5k or 3k. But people round here seem to suggest that if you like the "image" who cares about the price or the product. You should sacrifice any amount. Whatever. Yet another wonderful contribution to the forum. |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by biggayal on Sept 6, 2007 8:26:09 GMT 1, Nice buy Al, chuffed for you mate.
Cheers Stuey - I'm well chuffed...Don't think I will be when I've paid for the framing though... 
Manty - cheers for the offer - think I'll hold onto it though!
Anyways, the ensuing Giclee V Screenprint debate goes on and on....
What I want to know is, how do you pronounce 'Giclee'...? Is it Gick'lee' ..or Gice'lee.....I wanna know as I asked a mate and he didn't know.......?
Nice buy Al, chuffed for you mate. Cheers Stuey - I'm well chuffed...Don't think I will be when I've paid for the framing though... Manty - cheers for the offer - think I'll hold onto it though! Anyways, the ensuing Giclee V Screenprint debate goes on and on.... What I want to know is, how do you pronounce 'Giclee'...? Is it Gick'lee' ..or Gice'lee.....I wanna know as I asked a mate and he didn't know.......? |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by ABC on Sept 6, 2007 8:28:39 GMT 1, i agree with you. Glicees have a max life of 30 years. So if you are buying 21st CL at 8k, don't hold onto it for more than 28 years. As the lease will soon be running out! Z
LOL, Anyone want to buy a slightly faded but nice 21C (2036 prices I'm afraid) offers around ยฃ1.2 million
i agree with you. Glicees have a max life of 30 years. So if you are buying 21st CL at 8k, don't hold onto it for more than 28 years. As the lease will soon be running out! Z LOL, Anyone want to buy a slightly faded but nice 21C (2036 prices I'm afraid) offers around ยฃ1.2 million |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by paulah on Sept 6, 2007 11:21:53 GMT 1, Nice buy Al, chuffed for you mate. Cheers Stuey - I'm well chuffed...Don't think I will be when I've paid for the framing though... Manty - cheers for the offer - think I'll hold onto it though! Anyways, the ensuing Giclee V Screenprint debate goes on and on.... What I want to know is, how do you pronounce 'Giclee'...? Is it Gick'lee' ..or Gice'lee.....I wanna know as I asked a mate and he didn't know.......?
It's pronounced zhee-clay
Nice buy Al, chuffed for you mate. Cheers Stuey - I'm well chuffed...Don't think I will be when I've paid for the framing though... Manty - cheers for the offer - think I'll hold onto it though! Anyways, the ensuing Giclee V Screenprint debate goes on and on.... What I want to know is, how do you pronounce 'Giclee'...? Is it Gick'lee' ..or Gice'lee.....I wanna know as I asked a mate and he didn't know.......? It's pronounced zhee-clay |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by carlito on Sept 6, 2007 11:25:43 GMT 1, Problem around here is if you get critical on ANYTHING people get pissed.
amazingly enough I was pissed when i wrote my statement lol
(I was tired of the whole giclee debate ..that whenever Neate is discussed it always turns into...)
Problem around here is if you get critical on ANYTHING people get pissed. amazingly enough I was pissed when i wrote my statement lol (I was tired of the whole giclee debate ..that whenever Neate is discussed it always turns into...) |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by manchestermike on Sept 6, 2007 11:28:36 GMT 1, Problem around here is if you get critical on ANYTHING people get pissed. amazingly enough I was pissed when i wrote my statement lol
You'll just confuse him now mate ;D
Problem around here is if you get critical on ANYTHING people get pissed. amazingly enough I was pissed when i wrote my statement lol You'll just confuse him now mate ;D |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by JD on Sept 6, 2007 11:29:25 GMT 1, Problem around here is if you get critical on ANYTHING people get pissed. amazingly enough I was pissed when i wrote my statement lol (I was tired of the whole giclee debate ..that whenever Neate is discussed it always turns into...)
ha ha me too, in fact all my evening stuff is when im pissed everytime
Problem around here is if you get critical on ANYTHING people get pissed. amazingly enough I was pissed when i wrote my statement lol (I was tired of the whole giclee debate ..that whenever Neate is discussed it always turns into...) ha ha me too, in fact all my evening stuff is when im pissed everytime |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by carlito on Sept 6, 2007 11:30:17 GMT 1, amazingly enough I was pissed when i wrote my statement lol You'll just confuse him now mate ;D
good point ...pissed = ratted = mashed = mullered
amazingly enough I was pissed when i wrote my statement lol You'll just confuse him now mate ;D good point ...pissed = ratted = mashed = mullered |
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Neate's Cold War for ยฃ1400!!, by Zippy on Sept 6, 2007 12:08:44 GMT 1,
amazingly enough I was pissed when i wrote my statement lol
(I was tired of the whole giclee debate ..that whenever Neate is discussed it always turns into...)[/quote]
you were pissed? you wrote it at 9.30 a.m.
what do you have on your weetabix?
Z
amazingly enough I was pissed when i wrote my statement lol
(I was tired of the whole giclee debate ..that whenever Neate is discussed it always turns into...)[/quote]
you were pissed? you wrote it at 9.30 a.m.
what do you have on your weetabix?
Z
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