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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Dice on Apr 17, 2012 11:51:52 GMT 1, A purely hypothetical question Ive been pondering for a while would be Good to hear some other opinions!
Let's say you were a fan of pre LA banksy prints.
Let's also say you had ยฃ12k to spend and wanted some nice banksy art but you also wanted to make a good investment.
For that money you could get a signed barcode, signed Love is in the air, or maybe a signed rude copper, three of the most highly sought after signed prints.
Or you could get unsigned Flower Thrower (2.5k), barcode (2k), Girl with balloon (4k), bomb hugger (2k) and have change or throw an unsigned rude copper in (5k) with LIITA and GWB for example.
I would rather have more unsigned prints than one signed but which investment would be worth more in say 10 years time?
A purely hypothetical question Ive been pondering for a while would be Good to hear some other opinions!
Let's say you were a fan of pre LA banksy prints.
Let's also say you had ยฃ12k to spend and wanted some nice banksy art but you also wanted to make a good investment.
For that money you could get a signed barcode, signed Love is in the air, or maybe a signed rude copper, three of the most highly sought after signed prints.
Or you could get unsigned Flower Thrower (2.5k), barcode (2k), Girl with balloon (4k), bomb hugger (2k) and have change or throw an unsigned rude copper in (5k) with LIITA and GWB for example.
I would rather have more unsigned prints than one signed but which investment would be worth more in say 10 years time?
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by hunter007 on Apr 17, 2012 12:00:35 GMT 1, Signed , defo.
Then buy few of the copies simples 55 bar each no differenc to the unsigned in my eyes. LEast with a signed piece you know that there is always a market as i guess there is with both but personally unsigned seems a bit of a waste of money to me certainly wouldnt be spending 2k on something that looks the same for 55 quid. Add a sig totally differnt in my opinion .
Signed , defo.
Then buy few of the copies simples 55 bar each no differenc to the unsigned in my eyes. LEast with a signed piece you know that there is always a market as i guess there is with both but personally unsigned seems a bit of a waste of money to me certainly wouldnt be spending 2k on something that looks the same for 55 quid. Add a sig totally differnt in my opinion .
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by bullet on Apr 17, 2012 12:01:00 GMT 1, A purely hypothetical question Ive been pondering for a while would be Good to hear some other opinions! Let's say you were a fan of pre LA banksy prints. Let's also say you had ยฃ12k to spend and wanted some nice banksy art but you also wanted to make a good investment. For that money you could get a signed barcode, signed Love is in the air, or maybe a signed rude copper, three of the most highly sought after signed prints. Or you could get unsigned Flower Thrower (2.5k), barcode (2k), Girl with balloon (4k), bomb hugger (2k) and have change or throw an unsigned rude copper in (5k) with LIITA and GWB for example. I would rather have more unsigned prints than one signed but which investment would be worth more in say 10 years time?
Lol. N00b
A purely hypothetical question Ive been pondering for a while would be Good to hear some other opinions! Let's say you were a fan of pre LA banksy prints. Let's also say you had ยฃ12k to spend and wanted some nice banksy art but you also wanted to make a good investment. For that money you could get a signed barcode, signed Love is in the air, or maybe a signed rude copper, three of the most highly sought after signed prints. Or you could get unsigned Flower Thrower (2.5k), barcode (2k), Girl with balloon (4k), bomb hugger (2k) and have change or throw an unsigned rude copper in (5k) with LIITA and GWB for example. I would rather have more unsigned prints than one signed but which investment would be worth more in say 10 years time? Lol. N00b |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by freeview on Apr 17, 2012 12:05:00 GMT 1, Signed...
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Forbidden Love on Apr 17, 2012 12:10:09 GMT 1, Signed , defo. Then buy few of the copies simples 55 bar each no differenc to the unsigned in my eyes. LEast with a signed piece you know that there is always a market as i guess there is with both but personally unsigned seems a bit of a waste of money to me certainly wouldnt be spending 2k on something that looks the same for 55 quid. Add a sig totally differnt in my opinion .
there is a huge difference. i for sure wouldnt hang a copy.
it kinder defeats the object of buying anyones art.
and if its a really early one it could of been numbered by banksy and even pulled by him 
i do understand if you really like the image and will never be able to afford a real one. but generally speaking.
Signed , defo. Then buy few of the copies simples 55 bar each no differenc to the unsigned in my eyes. LEast with a signed piece you know that there is always a market as i guess there is with both but personally unsigned seems a bit of a waste of money to me certainly wouldnt be spending 2k on something that looks the same for 55 quid. Add a sig totally differnt in my opinion . there is a huge difference. i for sure wouldnt hang a copy. it kinder defeats the object of buying anyones art. and if its a really early one it could of been numbered by banksy and even pulled by him i do understand if you really like the image and will never be able to afford a real one. but generally speaking. |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by dotdot on Apr 17, 2012 12:11:41 GMT 1, A purely hypothetical question Ive been pondering for a while would be Good to hear some other opinions! Let's say you were a fan of pre LA banksy prints. Let's also say you had ยฃ12k to spend and wanted some nice banksy art but you also wanted to make a good investment. For that money you could get a signed barcode, signed Love is in the air, or maybe a signed rude copper, three of the most highly sought after signed prints. Or you could get unsigned Flower Thrower (2.5k), barcode (2k), Girl with balloon (4k), bomb hugger (2k) and have change or throw an unsigned rude copper in (5k) with LIITA and GWB for example. I would rather have more unsigned prints than one signed but which investment would be worth more in say 10 years time?
do what you wish.. depending also on availability of what you're in search of.
your 12k may very well buy a few works - but only if you can find them when you wish to spend.
plenty of folks now wish they'd bought when x was y pounds.
but then they didn't have y at that time..
it's now z - and .. work might either be worth a .. or b
of course if you'd bought other works by other artists .. well the works could be worth more or less.
b's works are only as valuable as the market (dictates) which exists for that work.
couple of years back - you could have bought rc(u) for less than 1k uk - now the story is not quite like that.
good luck and don't forget the other artists
(plenty of great talent out there)
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{ btw - this applies to both s and u works }
A purely hypothetical question Ive been pondering for a while would be Good to hear some other opinions! Let's say you were a fan of pre LA banksy prints. Let's also say you had ยฃ12k to spend and wanted some nice banksy art but you also wanted to make a good investment. For that money you could get a signed barcode, signed Love is in the air, or maybe a signed rude copper, three of the most highly sought after signed prints. Or you could get unsigned Flower Thrower (2.5k), barcode (2k), Girl with balloon (4k), bomb hugger (2k) and have change or throw an unsigned rude copper in (5k) with LIITA and GWB for example. I would rather have more unsigned prints than one signed but which investment would be worth more in say 10 years time? do what you wish.. depending also on availability of what you're in search of. your 12k may very well buy a few works - but only if you can find them when you wish to spend. plenty of folks now wish they'd bought when x was y pounds. but then they didn't have y at that time.. it's now z - and .. work might either be worth a .. or b of course if you'd bought other works by other artists .. well the works could be worth more or less. b's works are only as valuable as the market (dictates) which exists for that work. couple of years back - you could have bought rc(u) for less than 1k uk - now the story is not quite like that. good luck and don't forget the other artists (plenty of great talent out there) .. { btw - this applies to both s and u works } |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by jaimesl on Apr 17, 2012 12:20:22 GMT 1,
I'm not sure you're looking at it the right way...
If you want to make an 'investment' with your ยฃ12k then you might be better buying something other than art.
If you have your heart set on art - then you might be better buying an original over a print.
If you have you heart set on prints - then a signed Banksy is probably better than a bunch of unsigned prints (but that depends on the life of your investment).
If you're more interested in the art vs. the investment - then buying unsigned isn't a bad option.
I'd personally have a house full of unsigned authenticated prints on my wall than one signed and a bunch of knock-offs - but that's totally a personal preference thing.
Good luck with it - great problem to have!
I'm not sure you're looking at it the right way...
If you want to make an 'investment' with your ยฃ12k then you might be better buying something other than art.
If you have your heart set on art - then you might be better buying an original over a print.
If you have you heart set on prints - then a signed Banksy is probably better than a bunch of unsigned prints (but that depends on the life of your investment).
If you're more interested in the art vs. the investment - then buying unsigned isn't a bad option.
I'd personally have a house full of unsigned authenticated prints on my wall than one signed and a bunch of knock-offs - but that's totally a personal preference thing.
Good luck with it - great problem to have!
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Dice on Apr 17, 2012 12:45:53 GMT 1, Interesting comments (apart from the one from The Child That Is Freerange).
My ship will have to come in bigtime to have this problem but you never know it might do someday...
I like the idea of art as an investment vs buying shares etc. And you get to look at it on the wall rather than looking at a bank statement once a month  I have a lot of art from many different artists, I love all of it and very rarely sell anything, but as nobody likes losing money it's interesting to debate the investment side of things...
Interesting comments (apart from the one from The Child That Is Freerange). My ship will have to come in bigtime to have this problem but you never know it might do someday... I like the idea of art as an investment vs buying shares etc. And you get to look at it on the wall rather than looking at a bank statement once a month I have a lot of art from many different artists, I love all of it and very rarely sell anything, but as nobody likes losing money it's interesting to debate the investment side of things... |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by sanchorockin78 on Apr 17, 2012 13:18:53 GMT 1, If I had this pleasant dilemma I would go OG!. I often think of parting with a hatful of unsigned to get one signed or indeed an OG from another artist!
More canvases / mixed media!, thats my aim for 2012...until another cracking screenprint gets released and then oh the torture and the twitchy finger that is the BUY button
If I had this pleasant dilemma I would go OG!. I often think of parting with a hatful of unsigned to get one signed or indeed an OG from another artist! More canvases / mixed media!, thats my aim for 2012...until another cracking screenprint gets released and then oh the torture and the twitchy finger that is the BUY button |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by confused2 on Apr 17, 2012 14:15:06 GMT 1, If I had this pleasant dilemma I would go OG!. I often think of parting with a hatful of unsigned to get one signed or indeed an OG from another artist! More canvases / mixed media!, thats my aim for 2012...until another cracking screenprint gets released and then oh the torture and the twitchy finger that is the BUY button
Same here. I'm making a concerted effort to behave when new prints come along, although I will and have made exceptions.
With regards to Banksy, I'm trying to stick to signed prints, but I've got a few unsigned that I may sell to "upgrade" in the future. Their value is of little importance though, as I enjoy them for what they are, and not what they are worth and I'd rather have an unsigned GWB over a S&S, purely for the image, despite the fact they would cost more or less the same.
ยฃ12k is a lot of money and you're not guarenteed that any investment will go up in value. Recent history says it will, but nothing is certain.
If I had this pleasant dilemma I would go OG!. I often think of parting with a hatful of unsigned to get one signed or indeed an OG from another artist! More canvases / mixed media!, thats my aim for 2012...until another cracking screenprint gets released and then oh the torture and the twitchy finger that is the BUY button Same here. I'm making a concerted effort to behave when new prints come along, although I will and have made exceptions. With regards to Banksy, I'm trying to stick to signed prints, but I've got a few unsigned that I may sell to "upgrade" in the future. Their value is of little importance though, as I enjoy them for what they are, and not what they are worth and I'd rather have an unsigned GWB over a S&S, purely for the image, despite the fact they would cost more or less the same. ยฃ12k is a lot of money and you're not guarenteed that any investment will go up in value. Recent history says it will, but nothing is certain. |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by therivler1 on Apr 17, 2012 14:18:57 GMT 1, normally I would say to buy whatever image you like best.
But since you can afford signed, you are really asking is it better to have 2-3 signed vs 5-6 unsigned. To that, I would have to answer the signed.
normally I would say to buy whatever image you like best.
But since you can afford signed, you are really asking is it better to have 2-3 signed vs 5-6 unsigned. To that, I would have to answer the signed.
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by howlinhooker on Apr 17, 2012 14:19:19 GMT 1, Interesting comments (apart from the one from The Child That Is Freerange)..
Interesting comments (apart from the one from The Child That Is Freerange).. ;D |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by johnnyh on Apr 17, 2012 14:28:17 GMT 1, Go for signed in my book as you have the cash but you could mix it with a nice canvas or two as well as the Banksy signed. Zippy's Blek for example (not promoting but a good example) nice classic piece and would look good on the wall. Plus something else.
If you buy the unsigned you may well want to upgrade in the future.
Good luck with it eitherway. May go up or down but will always have a value so there are worse things to invest in such as a race horse hey freerange ;D sorry couldn't resist no offense meant
Go for signed in my book as you have the cash but you could mix it with a nice canvas or two as well as the Banksy signed. Zippy's Blek for example (not promoting but a good example) nice classic piece and would look good on the wall. Plus something else.
If you buy the unsigned you may well want to upgrade in the future.
Good luck with it eitherway. May go up or down but will always have a value so there are worse things to invest in such as a race horse hey freerange ;D sorry couldn't resist no offense meant
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by payney on Apr 17, 2012 14:56:33 GMT 1, if you want a guaranteed investment spend your ยฃ12k on gold. not art. in 10 years time you will be laughing to the banks not banksy
if you want a guaranteed investment spend your ยฃ12k on gold. not art. in 10 years time you will be laughing to the banks not banksy
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Michael Jacob on Apr 17, 2012 15:04:59 GMT 1, signed versus unsigned is acutally a tough call, IMO. Who knows what will happen 10 years down the road. Art in the Urban movement is different that in the past like Warhol. Stuff like warhol was either signed, or from an open edition (most of the time). The current art market now sells collectable art both signed and unsigned. If youre buying after the release, theres a huge markup for signed. Like everyone says, buy what you like. If you can drop 12k on one signed print, then do it. If youve got alot of bare walls, maybe go the unsigned route.
As for gold, I disagree. Everyone is buying right now, like they did in the last recession. It might go up some, but I think 10 years from now, it will be half what it is now. But what the hell do I know
signed versus unsigned is acutally a tough call, IMO. Who knows what will happen 10 years down the road. Art in the Urban movement is different that in the past like Warhol. Stuff like warhol was either signed, or from an open edition (most of the time). The current art market now sells collectable art both signed and unsigned. If youre buying after the release, theres a huge markup for signed. Like everyone says, buy what you like. If you can drop 12k on one signed print, then do it. If youve got alot of bare walls, maybe go the unsigned route. As for gold, I disagree. Everyone is buying right now, like they did in the last recession. It might go up some, but I think 10 years from now, it will be half what it is now. But what the hell do I know |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Dice on Apr 17, 2012 15:18:10 GMT 1, Maybe the unsigned prints are going to be worth more in the future than signed as he's not making any more of them 
Maybe the unsigned prints are going to be worth more in the future than signed as he's not making any more of them |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by rottenredrooster on Apr 17, 2012 15:28:46 GMT 1, Personally, if there is a signed version I will always go for that. I never buy unsigned pieces, unless there isn't a signed option.
In the future, I can't see the unsigned being worth much more than they are now (could be completely wrong). The signed on the other hand, I'd say for 'investment' purposes, and to hold value their value is the best route to take.
However, if you are really looking 10-20 years down the line... keep the 12k, and try and get enough together for a Banksy canvas. That's where the real money will be.
Personally, if there is a signed version I will always go for that. I never buy unsigned pieces, unless there isn't a signed option.
In the future, I can't see the unsigned being worth much more than they are now (could be completely wrong). The signed on the other hand, I'd say for 'investment' purposes, and to hold value their value is the best route to take.
However, if you are really looking 10-20 years down the line... keep the 12k, and try and get enough together for a Banksy canvas. That's where the real money will be.
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Goooogle Male on Apr 17, 2012 15:44:53 GMT 1, IMO banksy is quite separate from most artists in that the unsigned prints are numbered, COA'ed and editioned in exactly the same way as signed.
I think that from this point, for secondary market works, his signed and unsigned will rise/fall proportionally - ie, an overall 20% rise/fall in banksy print prices would have similar effect on both unsigned and signed.
Ultimately, if the bottom fell out of the market completely, you'd lose a lot less investment with an unsigned than a signed (ยฃ1k-5k rather than ยฃ4k-ยฃ60k down the pan!!), but if the market value for signed banksy prints doubled, I think you'd see a similar bump in unsigned.
As I say, most artists this isnt the case for at all, but the controlled scarcity of both sets in banksy's case makes it quite different.
IMO banksy is quite separate from most artists in that the unsigned prints are numbered, COA'ed and editioned in exactly the same way as signed.
I think that from this point, for secondary market works, his signed and unsigned will rise/fall proportionally - ie, an overall 20% rise/fall in banksy print prices would have similar effect on both unsigned and signed.
Ultimately, if the bottom fell out of the market completely, you'd lose a lot less investment with an unsigned than a signed (ยฃ1k-5k rather than ยฃ4k-ยฃ60k down the pan!!), but if the market value for signed banksy prints doubled, I think you'd see a similar bump in unsigned.
As I say, most artists this isnt the case for at all, but the controlled scarcity of both sets in banksy's case makes it quite different.
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by hunter007 on Apr 17, 2012 16:05:07 GMT 1, there is a huge difference. i for sure wouldnt hang a copy. it kinder defeats the object of buying anyones art. and if its a really early one it could of been numbered by banksy and even pulled by him i do understand if you really like the image and will never be able to afford a real one. but generally speaking. What about the people who own real and expensive art. They have the copies in their offices or homes and the real piece in a bank vault or very secure storage unit? At the end of the day they are only pictures and I have replaced my original banksy prints with west country prince copies and have very much enjoyed spending the difference on exotic holidays!
you know.. Its only personaly opnions who cares what anyone thinks about your art collection but you. In reality it means nothing doesnt make you a better person having a Banksy on the wall or any art. If a Image makes you happy and you enjoy it get it onthe wall no matter what it cost you.
Of course id rather a signed original print on my over a copy , but id rather pay a copy price thus the decision is made , Simples.
If you want it as an investment then fine go signed as i believe unsigned will drop in value in the future.
I cant wait until WCP manges to get a Nola , or Jack Jill , so he can produce screens of that, i guess a few more sells and he will have the cash to do soo, he probably has a rather nice collection of Original Banksy prints due to his thinking outside the box attitude and supplying the market with what they want , A Banksy image .,.
there is a huge difference. i for sure wouldnt hang a copy. it kinder defeats the object of buying anyones art. and if its a really early one it could of been numbered by banksy and even pulled by him i do understand if you really like the image and will never be able to afford a real one. but generally speaking. What about the people who own real and expensive art. They have the copies in their offices or homes and the real piece in a bank vault or very secure storage unit? At the end of the day they are only pictures and I have replaced my original banksy prints with west country prince copies and have very much enjoyed spending the difference on exotic holidays! you know.. Its only personaly opnions who cares what anyone thinks about your art collection but you. In reality it means nothing doesnt make you a better person having a Banksy on the wall or any art. If a Image makes you happy and you enjoy it get it onthe wall no matter what it cost you. Of course id rather a signed original print on my over a copy , but id rather pay a copy price thus the decision is made , Simples. If you want it as an investment then fine go signed as i believe unsigned will drop in value in the future. I cant wait until WCP manges to get a Nola , or Jack Jill , so he can produce screens of that, i guess a few more sells and he will have the cash to do soo, he probably has a rather nice collection of Original Banksy prints due to his thinking outside the box attitude and supplying the market with what they want , A Banksy image .,. |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by hunter007 on Apr 17, 2012 16:08:03 GMT 1, Trollies be sick actually too
Trollies be sick actually too
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Dice on Apr 17, 2012 16:26:09 GMT 1, Also this thread is not about loving art or loving Banksy's art but about loving money. If you loved the art or Banksy's art you would never spend the money thinking of it as an investment. You should buy because you like it; if it loses money and you love it you will still love it whereas if it was an investment then looking at that picture after it has lost a grand in value it would really grate on your carrot.
Well its nice to debate other aspects of art buying sometimes.
True i doubt there are many people on here who buy purely for investment, I for one would never buy a print if I didn't think I would like it on my wall. However nobody buys genuine banksy prints purely because they love the art as there is virtually no aesthetic difference between a WCP copy, real unsigned, or real signed versions of banksy prints. People buy it because it's nice to know banksy had a hand in the process (to a greater or lesser degree) and because even if it costs a lot of money it probably (hopefully!) will hold value long term.
An original would no doubt provide the most pleasure and be the best investment too but way out of my range unless I sell my house and then I'd have nowhere to put it!
Also this thread is not about loving art or loving Banksy's art but about loving money. If you loved the art or Banksy's art you would never spend the money thinking of it as an investment. You should buy because you like it; if it loses money and you love it you will still love it whereas if it was an investment then looking at that picture after it has lost a grand in value it would really grate on your carrot. Well its nice to debate other aspects of art buying sometimes. True i doubt there are many people on here who buy purely for investment, I for one would never buy a print if I didn't think I would like it on my wall. However nobody buys genuine banksy prints purely because they love the art as there is virtually no aesthetic difference between a WCP copy, real unsigned, or real signed versions of banksy prints. People buy it because it's nice to know banksy had a hand in the process (to a greater or lesser degree) and because even if it costs a lot of money it probably (hopefully!) will hold value long term. An original would no doubt provide the most pleasure and be the best investment too but way out of my range unless I sell my house and then I'd have nowhere to put it! |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by hunter007 on Apr 17, 2012 16:32:37 GMT 1, Also this thread is not about loving art or loving Banksy's art but about loving money. If you loved the art or Banksy's art you would never spend the money thinking of it as an investment. You should buy because you like it; if it loses money and you love it you will still love it whereas if it was an investment then looking at that picture after it has lost a grand in value it would really grate on your carrot. Well its nice to debate other aspects of art buying sometimes. True i doubt there are many people on here who buy purely for investment, I for one would never buy a print if I didn't think I would like it on my wall. However nobody buys genuine banksy prints purely because they love the art as there is virtually no aesthetic difference between a WCP copy, real unsigned, or real signed versions of banksy prints. People buy it because it's nice to know banksy had a hand in the process (to a greater or lesser degree) and because even if it costs a lot of money it probably (hopefully!) will hold value long term. An original would no doubt provide the most pleasure and be the best investment too but way out of my range unless I sell my house and then I'd have nowhere to put it!
people could not care less if Banksy touched a print as long as its worth 3 k on the secoundary market its all that matters
Also this thread is not about loving art or loving Banksy's art but about loving money. If you loved the art or Banksy's art you would never spend the money thinking of it as an investment. You should buy because you like it; if it loses money and you love it you will still love it whereas if it was an investment then looking at that picture after it has lost a grand in value it would really grate on your carrot. Well its nice to debate other aspects of art buying sometimes. True i doubt there are many people on here who buy purely for investment, I for one would never buy a print if I didn't think I would like it on my wall. However nobody buys genuine banksy prints purely because they love the art as there is virtually no aesthetic difference between a WCP copy, real unsigned, or real signed versions of banksy prints. People buy it because it's nice to know banksy had a hand in the process (to a greater or lesser degree) and because even if it costs a lot of money it probably (hopefully!) will hold value long term. An original would no doubt provide the most pleasure and be the best investment too but way out of my range unless I sell my house and then I'd have nowhere to put it! people could not care less if Banksy touched a print as long as its worth 3 k on the secoundary market its all that matters |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Dice on Apr 17, 2012 16:47:57 GMT 1, was talking about secondary market as discussing older prints but yes often a different story buying from source
was talking about secondary market as discussing older prints but yes often a different story buying from source
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by loucastel on Apr 17, 2012 20:23:48 GMT 1, What about the people who own real and expensive art. They have the copies in their offices or homes and the real piece in a bank vault or very secure storage unit? At the end of the day they are only pictures and I have replaced my original banksy prints with west country prince copies and have very much enjoyed spending the difference on exotic holidays! you know.. Its only personaly opnions who cares what anyone thinks about your art collection but you. In reality it means nothing doesnt make you a better person having a Banksy on the wall or any art. If a Image makes you happy and you enjoy it get it onthe wall no matter what it cost you. Of course id rather a signed original print on my over a copy , but id rather pay a copy price thus the decision is made , Simples. If you want it as an investment then fine go signed as i believe unsigned will drop in value in the future. I cant wait until WCP manges to get a Nola , or Jack Jill , so he can produce screens of that, i guess a few more sells and he will have the cash to do soo, he probably has a rather nice collection of Original Banksy prints due to his thinking outside the box attitude and supplying the market with what they want , A Banksy image .,.
maybe west country prince is banksy!!!!!!!
What about the people who own real and expensive art. They have the copies in their offices or homes and the real piece in a bank vault or very secure storage unit? At the end of the day they are only pictures and I have replaced my original banksy prints with west country prince copies and have very much enjoyed spending the difference on exotic holidays! you know.. Its only personaly opnions who cares what anyone thinks about your art collection but you. In reality it means nothing doesnt make you a better person having a Banksy on the wall or any art. If a Image makes you happy and you enjoy it get it onthe wall no matter what it cost you. Of course id rather a signed original print on my over a copy , but id rather pay a copy price thus the decision is made , Simples. If you want it as an investment then fine go signed as i believe unsigned will drop in value in the future. I cant wait until WCP manges to get a Nola , or Jack Jill , so he can produce screens of that, i guess a few more sells and he will have the cash to do soo, he probably has a rather nice collection of Original Banksy prints due to his thinking outside the box attitude and supplying the market with what they want , A Banksy image .,. maybe west country prince is banksy!!!!!!! |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Sundowner on Apr 17, 2012 21:26:32 GMT 1, save up some more and buy an original. There you really got your investment......nice entry level CCTV Birds will only set you back 15K...other test sprays on card go for as little as 12-15 as well....
From where?
save up some more and buy an original. There you really got your investment......nice entry level CCTV Birds will only set you back 15K...other test sprays on card go for as little as 12-15 as well.... From where? |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2012 21:28:53 GMT 1, save up some more and buy an original. There you really got your investment......nice entry level CCTV Birds will only set you back 15K...other test sprays on card go for as little as 12-15 as well....
where, where ? havent seen anything at that price for an age
save up some more and buy an original. There you really got your investment......nice entry level CCTV Birds will only set you back 15K...other test sprays on card go for as little as 12-15 as well.... where, where ? havent seen anything at that price for an age |
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by Lunch Special on Apr 18, 2012 5:02:56 GMT 1, It all depends on you. I for one love to have the image but couldnt justify buying a copy or a reproduction print off anyone! it would be foolish to buy yourself lets say a CYW and one day someoen says, Oh wow! thats the print he did for VOINA right? and then you have to explain how it is but it isnt? not my cup of tea guy. I own a few unsigned as well as three signed and value each for the image not as much the fact if it being signed or unsigned.
Im in search of an unsigned applause. Of course I would love a signed one but who can afford to spend so much on one print when theres so many images that one wants to own now and down the line?
All up to you mate, your money your walls your blessing and curse to follow cause once you catch the banksy bug..........
It all depends on you. I for one love to have the image but couldnt justify buying a copy or a reproduction print off anyone! it would be foolish to buy yourself lets say a CYW and one day someoen says, Oh wow! thats the print he did for VOINA right? and then you have to explain how it is but it isnt? not my cup of tea guy. I own a few unsigned as well as three signed and value each for the image not as much the fact if it being signed or unsigned.
Im in search of an unsigned applause. Of course I would love a signed one but who can afford to spend so much on one print when theres so many images that one wants to own now and down the line?
All up to you mate, your money your walls your blessing and curse to follow cause once you catch the banksy bug..........
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by johnnyh on Apr 18, 2012 5:28:40 GMT 1, Nothing wrong with copies, repros etc.
Likewise the signed v the unsigned. It basically in general all down to the cash available and disposable wealth. Much as I hate to say it probably agreeing with Deputy Dawg here ;D.
There isn't now but had many a poster and copy print on my walls over the years plus post cards collected from galleries. Particularly in my younger days.
So in a sense the copies and and repro's prints etc are purer as they are only based on the image as the buyer etc can have any image they like at low cost.
Where as originals signed etc are based on available income and are also attractive to people as investments, status symbols, as well as genuine liking etc. Note this is a generalisation and people still do buy at the lower end of that market in terms of prints but to be fair 150 quid for a print etc is not that cheap so even at these rates it is still based upon available income or pure love!!!
Nothing wrong with copies, repros etc.
Likewise the signed v the unsigned. It basically in general all down to the cash available and disposable wealth. Much as I hate to say it probably agreeing with Deputy Dawg here ;D.
There isn't now but had many a poster and copy print on my walls over the years plus post cards collected from galleries. Particularly in my younger days.
So in a sense the copies and and repro's prints etc are purer as they are only based on the image as the buyer etc can have any image they like at low cost.
Where as originals signed etc are based on available income and are also attractive to people as investments, status symbols, as well as genuine liking etc. Note this is a generalisation and people still do buy at the lower end of that market in terms of prints but to be fair 150 quid for a print etc is not that cheap so even at these rates it is still based upon available income or pure love!!!
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by jdwheeler on Apr 18, 2012 10:24:04 GMT 1, I personally wouldn't buy an unsigned print given the amount of almost perfect replicas outy there.
I also can't see any reason why they would ever be any more valuable in real terms than they are now.
I.e. we have already had all the interest from USA etc. and credit is never going to get more freely available/cheaper than it was over the past few years (I think a lot of Banksy economic demand has been driven by young guys having access to cheap credit cards/loans etc.)
I personally wouldn't buy an unsigned print given the amount of almost perfect replicas outy there.
I also can't see any reason why they would ever be any more valuable in real terms than they are now.
I.e. we have already had all the interest from USA etc. and credit is never going to get more freely available/cheaper than it was over the past few years (I think a lot of Banksy economic demand has been driven by young guys having access to cheap credit cards/loans etc.)
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Banksy Investment - Signed vs Unsigned?, by sashaz on Apr 18, 2012 13:50:26 GMT 1, WIth the correct purchases art is at the same level long term as most asset classes. Look at arttactic.com/
WIth the correct purchases art is at the same level long term as most asset classes. Look at arttactic.com/ |
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I have a lot of art from many different artists, I love all of it and very rarely sell anything, but as nobody likes losing money it's interesting to debate the investment side of things...
