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Harland Miller โข Who Cares Wins Print, by Poster Bob on Mar 11, 2021 11:26:45 GMT 1, bank transfer with no recourse, red flag, could end up being another Benny Jean Norris case Asking for payment by bank transfer for an item this expensive is not a red flag.
bank transfer with no recourse, red flag, could end up being another Benny Jean Norris case Asking for payment by bank transfer for an item this expensive is not a red flag.
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Stik at Christieโs , by Poster Bob on Mar 9, 2021 22:56:22 GMT 1, He has. They were available privately.
It seems odd when there was such a drive to return posters to homes in the area. Unless the only reason is to drive the price up, for said homes to have a gift of even higher value. Doubt it! Why hasn't he released a new edition? He'd love the hype and attention around that, and the ensuing 'christies are auctioning my latest bun fight print'.
He has. They were available privately. It seems odd when there was such a drive to return posters to homes in the area. Unless the only reason is to drive the price up, for said homes to have a gift of even higher value. Doubt it! Why hasn't he released a new edition? He'd love the hype and attention around that, and the ensuing 'christies are auctioning my latest bun fight print'.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 9, 2021 18:52:22 GMT 1, All of that stuff is from last week.
Heni site's back up - looks like they might have added a bunch of things to the Marketplace section (not totally sure since I don't follow it that closely)
All of that stuff is from last week. Heni site's back up - looks like they might have added a bunch of things to the Marketplace section (not totally sure since I don't follow it that closely)
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Pejac Original Wanted 8-10k budget, by Poster Bob on Mar 8, 2021 20:43:03 GMT 1, You're right, he's wrong. I'm referring to the cost at source.
Ah maybe I'm wrong. That's how it was when I last checked but was before the Ahab release.
You're right, he's wrong. I'm referring to the cost at source. Ah maybe I'm wrong. That's how it was when I last checked but was before the Ahab release.
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Forum Auctions โข Banksy Marketplace ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 5, 2021 19:07:09 GMT 1, Not unless you have urgent commitments. At least wait until the fall to take advantage of the appreciation.
I have an US Bomb Middle England, and (Signed) Very Little Helps. Good with one and a pass on the other. Should I be selling now?
Not unless you have urgent commitments. At least wait until the fall to take advantage of the appreciation. I have an US Bomb Middle England, and (Signed) Very Little Helps. Good with one and a pass on the other. Should I be selling now?
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Forum Auctions โข Banksy Marketplace ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 5, 2021 18:27:10 GMT 1, The following 5 prints also had an extra 5% import duty for UK purchasers. Bomb Middle England US Jack and Jill signed which was passed Strawberry Donuts Very Little Helps which was also passed No Ball Games That doesn't factor in any longer. All auctions are online and they all attract a world audience. A 5% import duty in the UK won't determine whether or not a piece sells on the world market, especially considering the 20+% import fees many EU countries face. To put it simply, if it didn't sell, it's due to condition or starting bid. I'd assume in this case, it's all due to the starting bid.
The following 5 prints also had an extra 5% import duty for UK purchasers. Bomb Middle England US Jack and Jill signed which was passed Strawberry Donuts Very Little Helps which was also passed No Ball Games That doesn't factor in any longer. All auctions are online and they all attract a world audience. A 5% import duty in the UK won't determine whether or not a piece sells on the world market, especially considering the 20+% import fees many EU countries face. To put it simply, if it didn't sell, it's due to condition or starting bid. I'd assume in this case, it's all due to the starting bid.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 5, 2021 18:23:08 GMT 1, I thought it was them when I saw the neon CYW and hand-finished Grannies. Those pieces are just so insanely rare. From what I understand it can't be a situation of them going bust. I was told that the owner was made filthy rich from the sale of his business years ago. If anything they're just cashing in because you can't be poor if you own all of those works.
I thought it was them when I saw the neon CYW and hand-finished Grannies. Those pieces are just so insanely rare. From what I understand it can't be a situation of them going bust. I was told that the owner was made filthy rich from the sale of his business years ago. If anything they're just cashing in because you can't be poor if you own all of those works.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 3, 2021 23:47:16 GMT 1, Does anyone have an update on order numbers? Really curious how many orders have been made, even though it isn't indicative of edition sizes. I just ordered H9-1 Justice (yes, mainstream, but my family co-CEO likes it most ๐ฌ) at about 10:05 p.m. GMT. My order number is: LEV-19904891xx Poster Bob : Does this help to make an estimate? My guess still is 5,000 prints in total for all 8 editions together. Not really because it doesn't match the numbering system of the order I placed. We'll probably find out tomorrow. I think that H9-1 will have the largest edition size, perhaps over 1,000.
Does anyone have an update on order numbers? Really curious how many orders have been made, even though it isn't indicative of edition sizes. I just ordered H9-1 Justice (yes, mainstream, but my family co-CEO likes it most ๐ฌ) at about 10:05 p.m. GMT. My order number is: LEV-19904891xx Poster Bob : Does this help to make an estimate? My guess still is 5,000 prints in total for all 8 editions together. Not really because it doesn't match the numbering system of the order I placed. We'll probably find out tomorrow. I think that H9-1 will have the largest edition size, perhaps over 1,000.
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How many Hirst Cherry Blossom Prints did you buy?, by Poster Bob on Mar 3, 2021 20:39:15 GMT 1, Just want to quote this for later.
These will definitely be flipped for just under cost
Just want to quote this for later. These will definitely be flipped for just under cost
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 23:39:04 GMT 1, Grannies, grin reaper, festival APโs and Choose Your Weapon flouro all the same framer.. looks like someone is having a yard sale Perhaps getting ahead of a possible CGT increase tomorrow? There won't be an increase. They'll keep it the same along with the tax-free allowance and the 40% tax rate. Conservatives love their money; they'd go nuts if Rishi cost them money.
Grannies, grin reaper, festival APโs and Choose Your Weapon flouro all the same framer.. looks like someone is having a yard sale Perhaps getting ahead of a possible CGT increase tomorrow? There won't be an increase. They'll keep it the same along with the tax-free allowance and the 40% tax rate. Conservatives love their money; they'd go nuts if Rishi cost them money.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 21:41:09 GMT 1, So in case people don't know how to determine the number of orders, what you do is post the whole number minus the last two digits; the middle information looks essential as there's no way they're selling thousands of each print.
So in case people don't know how to determine the number of orders, what you do is post the whole number minus the last two digits; the middle information looks essential as there's no way they're selling thousands of each print.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:56:39 GMT 1, Finally, a Kate Moss with COA in a premier house. Disappointed there's no Stop & Search though.
Finally, a Kate Moss with COA in a premier house. Disappointed there's no Stop & Search though.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:42:01 GMT 1, I think all four you mentioned are strong images. I think 1 will be the best-selling edition from the series.
Does anyone have an update on order numbers? Really curious how many orders have been made, even though it isn't indicative of edition sizes. I plan to order tomorrow and will post an indication. My only problem is: I'm still undecided. 1 or 3? 1 and 3? May 4 or 8?ย
I think all four you mentioned are strong images. I think 1 will be the best-selling edition from the series. Does anyone have an update on order numbers? Really curious how many orders have been made, even though it isn't indicative of edition sizes. I plan to order tomorrow and will post an indication. My only problem is: I'm still undecided. 1 or 3? 1 and 3? May 4 or 8?ย
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:33:52 GMT 1, Does anyone have an update on order numbers? Really curious how many orders have been made, even though it isn't indicative of edition sizes.
Does anyone have an update on order numbers? Really curious how many orders have been made, even though it isn't indicative of edition sizes.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:22:48 GMT 1, You don't get charged a CC fee. Within your account you can hold balances in multiple currencies. When paying it will default to use an account in that currency. So, if I want to buy two Hirst prints I'll figure out the amount due, convert ยฃ to $ in the Revolut app at Revolut's exchange rate, then pay with my Revolut debit card and pay no additional fees to anyone.
An account comes with a debit card which you can use to make payments. I convert whatever currency I have into what I want to make the payment in, then make the payment by card. Thanks. ย So is that the MasterCard rate you get charged? ย Mastercard always charge a worse rate than the standard exchange rate quoted on google. ย I have a mastercard credit card with zero foreign transaction fee. Would that be the same as Revolut?
You don't get charged a CC fee. Within your account you can hold balances in multiple currencies. When paying it will default to use an account in that currency. So, if I want to buy two Hirst prints I'll figure out the amount due, convert ยฃ to $ in the Revolut app at Revolut's exchange rate, then pay with my Revolut debit card and pay no additional fees to anyone. An account comes with a debit card which you can use to make payments. I convert whatever currency I have into what I want to make the payment in, then make the payment by card. Thanks. ย So is that the MasterCard rate you get charged? ย Mastercard always charge a worse rate than the standard exchange rate quoted on google. ย I have a mastercard credit card with zero foreign transaction fee. Would that be the same as Revolut?
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Hirst Cherry Blossom Edition Size, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:18:13 GMT 1, He makes his own artwork now.
Heni say these are hand signed not signed by an autopen or machine. You think the guy that doesn't even make his own artwork is going to hand sign all the labels?
He makes his own artwork now. Heni say these are hand signed not signed by an autopen or machine. You think the guy that doesn't even make his own artwork is going to hand sign all the labels?
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:11:28 GMT 1, An account comes with a debit card which you can use to make payments. I convert whatever currency I have into what I want to make the payment in, then make the payment by card.
I'd say at this point that if you're being charged a non-sterling fee you should switch banks or your card provider. I use and would recommend Revolut. Don't you need the recipient's bank details for Revolut? ย Heni do not show bank transfer or anything similar as a payment option. ย
An account comes with a debit card which you can use to make payments. I convert whatever currency I have into what I want to make the payment in, then make the payment by card. I'd say at this point that if you're being charged a non-sterling fee you should switch banks or your card provider. I use and would recommend Revolut. Don't you need the recipient's bank details for Revolut? ย Heni do not show bank transfer or anything similar as a payment option. ย
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 16:07:47 GMT 1, Don't forget your non sterling transaction fee if you're buying one of these in the UK I'd say at this point that if you're being charged a non-sterling fee you should switch banks or your card provider. I use and would recommend Revolut.
Don't forget your non sterling transaction fee if you're buying one of these in the UK I'd say at this point that if you're being charged a non-sterling fee you should switch banks or your card provider. I use and would recommend Revolut.
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Hirst Cherry Blossom Edition Size, by Poster Bob on Mar 1, 2021 20:54:48 GMT 1, And yet again I find myself throughly entertained by the nonsense talked on this board. Accepting two different cryptocurrencies will not cause a large increase in the edition sizes. Here's what to consider in terms of positive effects on the secondary market:
- They're not cheap compared to the the affordable Fruitful and Forever prints and the even more affordable Rainbow and Heart.
- They do not come in different sizes and they're all the same price.
- They're large, signed, decent images of work he painted himself.
- They do not require framing and come ready to be hung on the wall.
- They're very easy to store if you're only interested in a profit.
I'd say the edition sizes will be around 500ish each, with quite a bit of variation. The larger galleries are going to have their employees buy full sets of these. A few friends have asked me if they can make a quick buck off of these. My opinion is that you'll be able to make a profit of 100% within two years. You can never tell how many people will try to dump them on Ebay and then race each other to the bottom when undercutting just to make their money back.
And yet again I find myself throughly entertained by the nonsense talked on this board. Accepting two different cryptocurrencies will not cause a large increase in the edition sizes. Here's what to consider in terms of positive effects on the secondary market:
- They're not cheap compared to the the affordable Fruitful and Forever prints and the even more affordable Rainbow and Heart.
- They do not come in different sizes and they're all the same price.
- They're large, signed, decent images of work he painted himself.
- They do not require framing and come ready to be hung on the wall.
- They're very easy to store if you're only interested in a profit.
I'd say the edition sizes will be around 500ish each, with quite a bit of variation. The larger galleries are going to have their employees buy full sets of these. A few friends have asked me if they can make a quick buck off of these. My opinion is that you'll be able to make a profit of 100% within two years. You can never tell how many people will try to dump them on Ebay and then race each other to the bottom when undercutting just to make their money back.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 20:59:31 GMT 1, White, tray frame.
I do fancy one of these. I know that they can be hung directly, but I think they might look better framed. Any thoughts about framing?
White, tray frame. I do fancy one of these. I know that they can be hung directly, but I think they might look better framed. Any thoughts about framing?
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 19:41:32 GMT 1, The release price means nothing other than, in general, setting a minimum price. Secondary price is determined by image quality, size and limitation. Without a doubt, H4-7 is the least desirable of the series. You're assuming that you're going to be offered a signed Hirst; I wouldn't count on it as the competition is steep. I have a friend who owns over 10 HENI prints, has never sold a thing, and still hasn't been offered a thing by Hirst.
What makes you think that you're making a fair comparison by using the least desirable print of the H4 series before its price even matures? I'm making the only comparison available to me. I'm no Hirst expert(why I asked what the release price was), you say it's his least desirable, is this the general consensus or personal opinion? I am interested in buying but don't want to pay $3000 for one of possibly thousands if his usual limited drops would cost say $4500 for 1/75. Edit: I now know they were $6000 + costs. Thanks Blurp
The release price means nothing other than, in general, setting a minimum price. Secondary price is determined by image quality, size and limitation. Without a doubt, H4-7 is the least desirable of the series. You're assuming that you're going to be offered a signed Hirst; I wouldn't count on it as the competition is steep. I have a friend who owns over 10 HENI prints, has never sold a thing, and still hasn't been offered a thing by Hirst. What makes you think that you're making a fair comparison by using the least desirable print of the H4 series before its price even matures? I'm making the only comparison available to me. I'm no Hirst expert(why I asked what the release price was), you say it's his least desirable, is this the general consensus or personal opinion? I am interested in buying but don't want to pay $3000 for one of possibly thousands if his usual limited drops would cost say $4500 for 1/75. Edit: I now know they were $6000 + costs. Thanks Blurp
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 19:15:38 GMT 1, What makes you think that you're making a fair comparison by using the least desirable print of the H4 series before its price even matures?
Compared to the price of run of the mill NFT's these are essentially being given away. H4-7, which is similar size, has sold a few times on ebay, roughly 9-10 thousand, but they are limited to just 75. So if these sell by the truck load then perhaps $3000 plus costs is high enough. IMO for a timed edition they are not bargain priced. What was the cost of the H4-7s on release?
What makes you think that you're making a fair comparison by using the least desirable print of the H4 series before its price even matures? Compared to the price of run of the mill NFT's these are essentially being given away. H4-7, which is similar size, has sold a few times on ebay, roughly 9-10 thousand, but they are limited to just 75. So if these sell by the truck load then perhaps $3000 plus costs is high enough. IMO for a timed edition they are not bargain priced. What was the cost of the H4-7s on release?
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Art Insurance in the UK, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 19:13:14 GMT 1, All I can say is that my experience was different than yours!
Whether or not you have to depends on the total amount the policy covers and the price of any particular individual item. I made the assumption the OP was referring to a Banksy, which should break that threshold. Not necessarily with their Select brand. I have several Banky's included, no valuations
All I can say is that my experience was different than yours! Whether or not you have to depends on the total amount the policy covers and the price of any particular individual item. I made the assumption the OP was referring to a Banksy, which should break that threshold. Not necessarily with their Select brand. I have several Banky's included, no valuations
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Art Insurance in the UK, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 19:00:41 GMT 1, Whether or not you have to depends on the total amount the policy covers and the price of any particular individual item. I made the assumption the OP was referring to a Banksy, which should break that threshold.
Direct Line will require evaluations.ย I haven't provided any and they have covered all my pieces
Whether or not you have to depends on the total amount the policy covers and the price of any particular individual item. I made the assumption the OP was referring to a Banksy, which should break that threshold. Direct Line will require evaluations.ย I haven't provided any and they have covered all my pieces
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Art Insurance in the UK, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 18:12:16 GMT 1, If you are UK based I can recommend either Hiscox (was with them for around 10 years) or Direct Line Select. Both cover high value pieces, just have to be itemised if over a certain value Direct Line will require evaluations.
If you are UK based I can recommend either Hiscox (was with them for around 10 years) or Direct Line Select. Both cover high value pieces, just have to be itemised if over a certain value Direct Line will require evaluations.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 13:16:32 GMT 1, No, they're not all in Switzerland. There are several free port storage facilities in the UK. You won't pay tax until it leaves.
I can't get my head round how you can buy a print and not pay any Vat if its stored in their vault. Obviously all above board, but seems strange. Is that confirmed that you pay no VAT if it's in the vault? ย Unless the vault is in a top secret facility in Switzerland then surely you still have to pay VAT on any sales regardless of where it is stored. ย The tax is on sales and a stored print is a sale. ย
No, they're not all in Switzerland. There are several free port storage facilities in the UK. You won't pay tax until it leaves. I can't get my head round how you can buy a print and not pay any Vat if its stored in their vault. Obviously all above board, but seems strange. Is that confirmed that you pay no VAT if it's in the vault? ย Unless the vault is in a top secret facility in Switzerland then surely you still have to pay VAT on any sales regardless of where it is stored. ย The tax is on sales and a stored print is a sale. ย
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 11:54:23 GMT 1, The same as with anything sold anywhere in the world, you pay VAT at the applicable rate at time of purchase if it is being sent to the same country. Otherwise, VAT is removed at the time of purchase and you are then charged the applicable rate at the time of import.
Anyone explain the Vat situation, if I have it sent to Europe I donโt pay vat and if I have sent to the UK I do pay vat? I know Heni is based in Soho - seems to be better if I send it to the mother in laws who lives in europe
The same as with anything sold anywhere in the world, you pay VAT at the applicable rate at time of purchase if it is being sent to the same country. Otherwise, VAT is removed at the time of purchase and you are then charged the applicable rate at the time of import. Anyone explain the Vat situation, if I have it sent to Europe I donโt pay vat and if I have sent to the UK I do pay vat? I know Heni is based in Soho - seems to be better if I send it to the mother in laws who lives in europe
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 1:22:31 GMT 1, Apparently the lessons of the Soviet Union have fallen upon deaf ears and people still think equity creates utopia. jeez no one could have guessed that response. What's the next talking point in this sequence to deny that there is an issue? Is it time for you to call me marxist yet? You've clearly been well indoctrinated into theories proven incorrect a long time ago.
Apparently the lessons of the Soviet Union have fallen upon deaf ears and people still think equity creates utopia. jeez no one could have guessed that response. What's the next talking point in this sequence to deny that there is an issue? Is it time for you to call me marxist yet? You've clearly been well indoctrinated into theories proven incorrect a long time ago.
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 0:11:20 GMT 1, Apparently the lessons of the Soviet Union have fallen upon deaf ears and people still think equity creates utopia.
Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome. ah I see, so if one group of people is at a systematic disadvantage when compared to others, then you would agree that those people should be entitled to an equality of opportunity? You're almost there.
Apparently the lessons of the Soviet Union have fallen upon deaf ears and people still think equity creates utopia. Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome. ah I see, so if one group of people is at a systematic disadvantage when compared to others, then you would agree that those people should be entitled to an equality of opportunity? You're almost there.
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 0:03:15 GMT 1, It seems that you have not had much exposure to how people are indoctrinated into the lies of white privilege and whiteness. You are made to admit your complicity, regardless of your beliefs and personal virtues in order to become an "ally".
It's racist, pure and simple. If the same logic was applied to other races the left would be appalled.
The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย Utter tosh. All white people aren't guilty by default and I don't think many think this way. Societies have a lot of levelling up to do, but individuals are only guilty if they abuse privilege or fail to acknowledge there is a problem within society. There is no witch hunt from the left. And there is no slandering of entire races coming from those who are appalled by discrimination. You might be right that it may be impossible to atone for historical injustices but that's no reason to not endeavour.
It seems that you have not had much exposure to how people are indoctrinated into the lies of white privilege and whiteness. You are made to admit your complicity, regardless of your beliefs and personal virtues in order to become an "ally". It's racist, pure and simple. If the same logic was applied to other races the left would be appalled. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย Utter tosh. All white people aren't guilty by default and I don't think many think this way. Societies have a lot of levelling up to do, but individuals are only guilty if they abuse privilege or fail to acknowledge there is a problem within society. There is no witch hunt from the left. And there is no slandering of entire races coming from those who are appalled by discrimination. You might be right that it may be impossible to atone for historical injustices but that's no reason to not endeavour.
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