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Paul Insect โข The Reflection, Observer , by Poster Bob on Jan 6, 2021 20:57:20 GMT 1, If they ship from the EU you should pay no VAT at the time of purchase and 5% VAT once imported. I'd do some tests on their website to make sure that they have removed VAT from the purchase price.
If they ship from the EU you should pay no VAT at the time of purchase and 5% VAT once imported. I'd do some tests on their website to make sure that they have removed VAT from the purchase price.
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Jan 6, 2021 13:29:15 GMT 1, With the risk of someone telling me the answer to my question is in the pages and pages of confusing updates and threads, can anyone simply answer what would I have to pay ( Iโm in the UK as a private buyer) if I bought an item from say ebay from a private seller in France for ยฃ2000. I have tried reading the governmentโs website but frankly it keeps talking about businesses and my eyes are starting to bleed reading it ๐ฉ Your kind and simplified replies would be much appreciated Cheers As far as I know, buying from France will now be the same as buying from USA. i.e. you will pay VAT when it enters the country plus an admin fee. So for 2K you will pay 20% VAT (ยฃ400) or, if you're lucky, 5% VAT (ยฃ100) plus something like ยฃ12 processing fee. It should always be 5% and never 20% in the scenario you outlined above so long as it is a piece of art. I have taken a look at a few online art shops located in France and none of them have changed their checkout system to remove French VAT. Has anyone seen an example of this?
With the risk of someone telling me the answer to my question is in the pages and pages of confusing updates and threads, can anyone simply answer what would I have to pay ( Iโm in the UK as a private buyer) if I bought an item from say ebay from a private seller in France for ยฃ2000. I have tried reading the governmentโs website but frankly it keeps talking about businesses and my eyes are starting to bleed reading it ๐ฉ Your kind and simplified replies would be much appreciated Cheers As far as I know, buying from France will now be the same as buying from USA. i.e. you will pay VAT when it enters the country plus an admin fee. So for 2K you will pay 20% VAT (ยฃ400) or, if you're lucky, 5% VAT (ยฃ100) plus something like ยฃ12 processing fee. It should always be 5% and never 20% in the scenario you outlined above so long as it is a piece of art. I have taken a look at a few online art shops located in France and none of them have changed their checkout system to remove French VAT. Has anyone seen an example of this?
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Gerhard Richter ๐ฉ๐ช Abstract โข Contemporary Art โข New Relea, by Poster Bob on Jan 4, 2021 11:11:40 GMT 1, If the Artsy sales are to be believed you shouldn't sell for under ยฃ15,000
IMO current price is $15k-20k. Selling for less than that would be unadvised.
If the Artsy sales are to be believed you shouldn't sell for under ยฃ15,000 IMO current price is $15k-20k. Selling for less than that would be unadvised.
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by Poster Bob on Jan 4, 2021 0:12:49 GMT 1, Still available and taking offers. I'll probably go the auction route at the end of the week.
Still available and taking offers. I'll probably go the auction route at the end of the week.
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WHO is ARTSY ?!!!!, by Poster Bob on Jan 2, 2021 16:08:49 GMT 1, It's Larry
It's Larry
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Whatโs the cheapest official Banksy Print?, by Poster Bob on Jan 2, 2021 4:46:27 GMT 1, I have a restored Bomb Middle England for ยฃ32,500. PM me if you're interested.
I have a restored Bomb Middle England for ยฃ32,500. PM me if you're interested.
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Dec 30, 2020 20:40:54 GMT 1, Oh God, a bill for importing things! How ever will we get on as a society! This is clearly the end of days.
The thoughts of a typical liberal: everything that doesn't fall lock-step in line with you is hard-right, far-right or alt-right. I voted remain. Brexit has resulted in a massive financial cost for me due to fluctuations in the exchange rate. I just don't cry and overexaggerate petty little things like filling out a customs form; a customs form is not a big deal. People will figure out how to proceed with the new rules.ย Its not the customs forms, its the customs duty that will now have to be paid.ย Its also the VAT.ย It remains to be seen how much extra these charges will add but my preference will be buying from within the EU going forward.
Oh God, a bill for importing things! How ever will we get on as a society! This is clearly the end of days. The thoughts of a typical liberal: everything that doesn't fall lock-step in line with you is hard-right, far-right or alt-right. I voted remain. Brexit has resulted in a massive financial cost for me due to fluctuations in the exchange rate. I just don't cry and overexaggerate petty little things like filling out a customs form; a customs form is not a big deal. People will figure out how to proceed with the new rules.ย Its not the customs forms, its the customs duty that will now have to be paid.ย Its also the VAT.ย It remains to be seen how much extra these charges will add but my preference will be buying from within the EU going forward.
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Gerhard Richter ๐ฉ๐ช Abstract โข Contemporary Art โข New Relea, by Poster Bob on Dec 30, 2020 20:01:28 GMT 1, Yes, I am taking A piss. There is definitely no FAQs page on the HENI website. Not even on the bottom of the page, last row in the second column from the left. It isn't even the first result when you google "HENI FAQs". It definitely is not there. It also does not link to a number of questions, all of which are answered, one of which is "Do the editions come with a certificate of authenticity?" OK, if you are so smart, where does it say what CoA the Artsy sellers are including? The non-existent FAQs on the website are very clear.
Yes, I am taking A piss. There is definitely no FAQs page on the HENI website. Not even on the bottom of the page, last row in the second column from the left. It isn't even the first result when you google "HENI FAQs". It definitely is not there. It also does not link to a number of questions, all of which are answered, one of which is "Do the editions come with a certificate of authenticity?" OK, if you are so smart, where does it say what CoA the Artsy sellers are including? The non-existent FAQs on the website are very clear.
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Dec 30, 2020 19:58:31 GMT 1, He means you got the hard right wing outcome you wanted. The thoughts of a typical liberal: everything that doesn't fall lock-step in line with you is hard-right, far-right or alt-right. I voted remain. Brexit has resulted in a massive financial cost for me due to fluctuations in the exchange rate. I just don't cry and overexaggerate petty little things like filling out a customs form; a customs form is not a big deal. People will figure out how to proceed with the new rules.
He means you got the hard right wing outcome you wanted. The thoughts of a typical liberal: everything that doesn't fall lock-step in line with you is hard-right, far-right or alt-right. I voted remain. Brexit has resulted in a massive financial cost for me due to fluctuations in the exchange rate. I just don't cry and overexaggerate petty little things like filling out a customs form; a customs form is not a big deal. People will figure out how to proceed with the new rules.
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Dec 30, 2020 19:42:00 GMT 1, Filling out a customs form, not a big deal Sparky. It's been over four years and we're still waiting for this catastrophe you're going on about.
New customs paperwork will burden UK businesses and individuals with an additional cost of ยฃ7 billion a year to process.
It's been over four years and we're still waiting to learn of one single benefit of leaving the EU.
Still, you won... something, apparently. Get over it, brexitbob.
How did I win?
Filling out a customs form, not a big deal Sparky. It's been over four years and we're still waiting for this catastrophe you're going on about.
New customs paperwork will burden UK businesses and individuals with an additional cost of ยฃ7 billion a year to process.
It's been over four years and we're still waiting to learn of one single benefit of leaving the EU.
Still, you won... something, apparently. Get over it, brexitbob.
How did I win?
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Gerhard Richter ๐ฉ๐ช Abstract โข Contemporary Art โข New Relea, by Poster Bob on Dec 30, 2020 19:40:06 GMT 1, Read the FAQs on the HENI website. Are you taking a piss? There is no FAQ on the HENI website. Yes, I am taking A piss. There is definitely no FAQs page on the HENI website. Not even on the bottom of the page, last row in the second column from the left. It isn't even the first result when you google "HENI FAQs". It definitely is not there. It also does not link to a number of questions, all of which are answered, one of which is "Do the editions come with a certificate of authenticity?"
Read the FAQs on the HENI website. Are you taking a piss? There is no FAQ on the HENI website. Yes, I am taking A piss. There is definitely no FAQs page on the HENI website. Not even on the bottom of the page, last row in the second column from the left. It isn't even the first result when you google "HENI FAQs". It definitely is not there. It also does not link to a number of questions, all of which are answered, one of which is "Do the editions come with a certificate of authenticity?"
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Gerhard Richter ๐ฉ๐ช Abstract โข Contemporary Art โข New Relea, by Poster Bob on Dec 30, 2020 19:11:40 GMT 1, Read the FAQs on the HENI website.
Why do the Artsy listings of these say that a Certificate of Authenticity is included? Is there anything beyond the label on verso?
Read the FAQs on the HENI website. Why do the Artsy listings of these say that a Certificate of Authenticity is included? Is there anything beyond the label on verso?
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Dec 30, 2020 13:59:24 GMT 1, Filling out a customs form, not a big deal Sparky. It's been over four years and we're still waiting for this catastrophe you're going on about.
What extra paperwork? They'll ship it to the UK. Customs will process it. Yeah right ...when? ย UK Customs are currently advertising for 50,000 new staff to train up before the weekend! Carry on waving your tatty little flag Bob, even your very own leader (JRM) has estimated it could take up to 50 years to see a result from leaving the biggest trading block in the world (you know the one that everywhere else in the world is trying to get a deal with). ย Since him and most of us will be brown bread by then he thinks he'll get away with telling his stupid lies, unless of course it all unravels very soon and the Brexit angry mob go after him.
Filling out a customs form, not a big deal Sparky. It's been over four years and we're still waiting for this catastrophe you're going on about. What extra paperwork? They'll ship it to the UK. Customs will process it. Yeah right ...when? ย UK Customs are currently advertising for 50,000 new staff to train up before the weekend! Carry on waving your tatty little flag Bob, even your very own leader (JRM) has estimated it could take up to 50 years to see a result from leaving the biggest trading block in the world (you know the one that everywhere else in the world is trying to get a deal with). ย Since him and most of us will be brown bread by then he thinks he'll get away with telling his stupid lies, unless of course it all unravels very soon and the Brexit angry mob go after him.
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Dec 30, 2020 1:09:57 GMT 1, I'd say he's more a cross between Cameron and Stephen Fry.
that looks a bit like a chubb version of David Cameron to the right of Nigel.
I'd say he's more a cross between Cameron and Stephen Fry. that looks a bit like a chubb version of David Cameron to the right of Nigel.
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Dec 30, 2020 0:56:08 GMT 1, Only if you're a remoaner. Strong and stable! Better out than in! Let the British lion roar! The the pound plummeted after the vote, again before the deal, and then recovered slightly and dropped again after the deal. Itโs currently 1.1 euros to the pound, about the lowest in history. So saying that EU art is now cheaper is self delusion at best.
Only if you're a remoaner. Strong and stable! Better out than in! Let the British lion roar! The the pound plummeted after the vote, again before the deal, and then recovered slightly and dropped again after the deal. Itโs currently 1.1 euros to the pound, about the lowest in history. So saying that EU art is now cheaper is self delusion at best.
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Dec 29, 2020 21:16:15 GMT 1, Only if you're a remoaner. Strong and stable! Better out than in! Let the British lion roar!
Art I buy from the EU is now, on average, 15% cheaper and I have to fill out a customs form to mail something to the EU and the buyer will be charged VAT. Seems like one win and one no big deal. This makes no sense - the pound has plumetted due to the UK's act of self-destruction, so EU art is more expensive. Plus it looks like there is now more duty as well as VAT, and more paperwork. So it's lose, lose lose.
Only if you're a remoaner. Strong and stable! Better out than in! Let the British lion roar! Art I buy from the EU is now, on average, 15% cheaper and I have to fill out a customs form to mail something to the EU and the buyer will be charged VAT. Seems like one win and one no big deal. This makes no sense - the pound has plumetted due to the UK's act of self-destruction, so EU art is more expensive. Plus it looks like there is now more duty as well as VAT, and more paperwork. So it's lose, lose lose.
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Dec 29, 2020 21:13:13 GMT 1, You're talking pre-referendum. I'm talking post-referendum, pre-deal vs. post-deal.
Art I buy from the EU is now, on average, 15% cheaper and I have to fill out a customs form to mail something to the EU and the buyer will be charged VAT. Seems like one win and one no big deal. How has your art got cheaper whilst everyone else has seen the value of the pound drop against the euro since the referendum?
You're talking pre-referendum. I'm talking post-referendum, pre-deal vs. post-deal. Art I buy from the EU is now, on average, 15% cheaper and I have to fill out a customs form to mail something to the EU and the buyer will be charged VAT. Seems like one win and one no big deal. How has your art got cheaper whilst everyone else has seen the value of the pound drop against the euro since the referendum?
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Dec 29, 2020 20:18:05 GMT 1, Art I buy from the EU is now, on average, 15% cheaper and I have to fill out a customs form to mail something to the EU and the buyer will be charged VAT. Seems like one win and one no big deal.
Art I buy from the EU is now, on average, 15% cheaper and I have to fill out a customs form to mail something to the EU and the buyer will be charged VAT. Seems like one win and one no big deal.
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BREXIT and Double VAT, by Poster Bob on Dec 29, 2020 13:50:07 GMT 1, What extra paperwork? They'll ship it to the UK. Customs will process it.
So many small traders and creatives are going to drop doing business with the UK, additional taxes, carnets, visa, bureaucracy. Emerging UK bands and muralists touring Europe will be a thing of the past. Such a ridiculous move. I wonder what the first big test/collapse will be. I agree. Big, well established galleries will be ok but small independent artists based in Europe will simply start saying "sorry, no shipping to UK". ย It just wont be worth their while to have to deal with all the extra paperwork and the hassle.
What extra paperwork? They'll ship it to the UK. Customs will process it. So many small traders and creatives are going to drop doing business with the UK, additional taxes, carnets, visa, bureaucracy. Emerging UK bands and muralists touring Europe will be a thing of the past. Such a ridiculous move. I wonder what the first big test/collapse will be. I agree. Big, well established galleries will be ok but small independent artists based in Europe will simply start saying "sorry, no shipping to UK". ย It just wont be worth their while to have to deal with all the extra paperwork and the hassle.
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by Poster Bob on Dec 22, 2020 13:39:08 GMT 1, Good luck with the sale. Why not WhatsApp out of interest? Because then you have twenty people constantly messaging you for this, that, or the other thing and expecting immediate responses.
Good luck with the sale. Why not WhatsApp out of interest? Because then you have twenty people constantly messaging you for this, that, or the other thing and expecting immediate responses.
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by Poster Bob on Dec 22, 2020 12:39:46 GMT 1, SOLD PAYMENT PENDING AND NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
I am selling an unsigned โBomb Middle Englandโ from the edition of 500. It was previously framed. It suffered a fall, once framed, and required restoration. I paid ยฃ800 to get to this condition, and any potential buyer should purchase this under the assumption that the condition cannot be improved. There is light skinning to all four rear corners and a number of small blemishes have been repaired.
Both the print and I are in London. I can ship worldwide at the buyerโs expense. I am asking for ยฃ34,500 and offers will be accepted and I expect, most will be ignored. I feel that this asking price is in line with the recent ยฃ42k Artnet result. I am realistic regarding the condition and it will sell, so if you canโt otherwise afford an official, unsigned print with a Pest-Control-issued COA, this may be your chance. A COA was recently issued for the print (it is in hand) and it is registered under my name. I am the printโs second owner.
I do expect some pathetically low offers, which will go straight to my trash folder. In order to address this I would ask that anyone interested first message me with their email address and ask for a self-written condition report and pictures. Youโll be sent a zip via email, not WhatsApp. Once reviewed, please send me a separate message in which the subject line includes the following: offer amount in ยฃ, your location, payment method and date of payment. Include any important details worth noting in the body of the message. Please assume that non-response is due to lack of interest.
Edit: Yes, I'll consider payment plans.
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SOLD PAYMENT PENDING AND NO LONGER AVAILABLE. I am selling an unsigned โBomb Middle Englandโ from the edition of 500. It was previously framed. It suffered a fall, once framed, and required restoration. I paid ยฃ800 to get to this condition, and any potential buyer should purchase this under the assumption that the condition cannot be improved. There is light skinning to all four rear corners and a number of small blemishes have been repaired. Both the print and I are in London. I can ship worldwide at the buyerโs expense. I am asking for ยฃ34,500 and offers will be accepted and I expect, most will be ignored. I feel that this asking price is in line with the recent ยฃ42k Artnet result. I am realistic regarding the condition and it will sell, so if you canโt otherwise afford an official, unsigned print with a Pest-Control-issued COA, this may be your chance. A COA was recently issued for the print (it is in hand) and it is registered under my name. I am the printโs second owner. I do expect some pathetically low offers, which will go straight to my trash folder. In order to address this I would ask that anyone interested first message me with their email address and ask for a self-written condition report and pictures. Youโll be sent a zip via email, not WhatsApp. Once reviewed, please send me a separate message in which the subject line includes the following: offer amount in ยฃ, your location, payment method and date of payment. Include any important details worth noting in the body of the message. Please assume that non-response is due to lack of interest. Edit: Yes, I'll consider payment plans. Thanks
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Damien Hirst Print, Canvas, WANTED, by Poster Bob on Dec 22, 2020 0:00:04 GMT 1, Hi, I'm looking for a Hirst Heni H4 or H6. Thanks! There are some H4 prints on Ebay. You can definitely get a deal on a pepperoni pizza by the looks of it.
Hi, I'm looking for a Hirst Heni H4 or H6. Thanks! There are some H4 prints on Ebay. You can definitely get a deal on a pepperoni pizza by the looks of it.
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Has anyone sold with Hang-Up Gallery?, by Poster Bob on Dec 21, 2020 21:27:58 GMT 1, So they could give you ยฃ800 - commission and charge someone ยฃ4,000. Pretty normal.
I asked them if they'd like to sell an unsigned but sealed authentic Invader kit for me, they would but a lady there valued it at ยฃ800, so instead I sold it privately for about ยฃ4000 a couple of weeks later
So they could give you ยฃ800 - commission and charge someone ยฃ4,000. Pretty normal. I asked them if they'd like to sell an unsigned but sealed authentic Invader kit for me, they would but a lady there valued it at ยฃ800, so instead I sold it privately for about ยฃ4000 a couple of weeks later
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Gerhard Richter ๐ฉ๐ช Abstract โข Contemporary Art โข New Relea, by Poster Bob on Dec 21, 2020 0:04:45 GMT 1, A number of P19 prints most likely ended up in the hands of flippers, so the market may initially be flooded. Agree with your other points, disagree with this though. These were given out one at a time, meaning most people only have one. It's different than someone getting a set and selling 5 and keeping one. To get many copies, you would have had to put in many entries. Of course some did that. But anyone doing that would know the potential value, and would not be happy with only a few K profit. And from the 5 other people I know who hit, not a single one had a Richter before. They all love it and it's going on the walls. This was a home-run for Heni/Richter (save for the packaging) and made a lot of new fans. I do not think there will be any type of flooding - even after the first results come out. I do think however, this will harm P1 and P2 prices. Myself, I was looking at getting a P1 or P2 in the past. I didn't, and now have no need. I know two people who applied for these prints and had two others help them with applications. All six people were allocated prints despite any previous history with HENI. I am using that as my basis for the assumption that it would have been easy for flippers and galleries to get a hold of multiple prints, not sets. My experience with flippers is that they're after immediate profit and not interested in long-term gains, which is where the real money is.
They weren't all allocated one at a time but I assume that most people only ended up getting one. Some people were sold several up front.
I would liken the idea that these prints will harm P1 and P2 prices the same as that the Girl With Balloon APs would harm the price of the original edition of 150. I just can't see it. Very few copies of P1 and P2 have been sold publicly. They were well placed by the gallery and their sales precede the flipping hype.
I've also noticed that the P19-3 that Hicks & Stevens had listed on their Artsy page for ยฃ15,000 is now marked as sold.
A number of P19 prints most likely ended up in the hands of flippers, so the market may initially be flooded. Agree with your other points, disagree with this though. These were given out one at a time, meaning most people only have one. It's different than someone getting a set and selling 5 and keeping one. To get many copies, you would have had to put in many entries. Of course some did that. But anyone doing that would know the potential value, and would not be happy with only a few K profit. And from the 5 other people I know who hit, not a single one had a Richter before. They all love it and it's going on the walls. This was a home-run for Heni/Richter (save for the packaging) and made a lot of new fans. I do not think there will be any type of flooding - even after the first results come out. I do think however, this will harm P1 and P2 prices. Myself, I was looking at getting a P1 or P2 in the past. I didn't, and now have no need. I know two people who applied for these prints and had two others help them with applications. All six people were allocated prints despite any previous history with HENI. I am using that as my basis for the assumption that it would have been easy for flippers and galleries to get a hold of multiple prints, not sets. My experience with flippers is that they're after immediate profit and not interested in long-term gains, which is where the real money is. They weren't all allocated one at a time but I assume that most people only ended up getting one. Some people were sold several up front. I would liken the idea that these prints will harm P1 and P2 prices the same as that the Girl With Balloon APs would harm the price of the original edition of 150. I just can't see it. Very few copies of P1 and P2 have been sold publicly. They were well placed by the gallery and their sales precede the flipping hype. I've also noticed that the P19-3 that Hicks & Stevens had listed on their Artsy page for ยฃ15,000 is now marked as sold.
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Obey suspending UK orders , by Poster Bob on Dec 20, 2020 2:30:20 GMT 1, How am I triggered? #MILO
No, I used and meant comrade but let me congratulate you on your pathetic knowledge of Russian and your disgustingly myopic views on Brexit. You're right, it's definitely xenophobia and racism. It has nothing to do with an entire class, feeling left behind all over the western world. You are truly and utterly brilliant and we're so lucky to have your Champagne Socialist views here. Listen to some Idles, destroy Israel, and praise Corbyn. [ quote author=" Alchemy Art" source="/post/2027320/thread" timestamp="1608283803"]You meanย tovarisch. Is it just you trying to find something smart to say and completely crashing? Thought so.
Bob the snowflake got triggered and is out of his safe space. Watch out! [/quote]
How am I triggered? #MILO No, I used and meant comrade but let me congratulate you on your pathetic knowledge of Russian and your disgustingly myopic views on Brexit. You're right, it's definitely xenophobia and racism. It has nothing to do with an entire class, feeling left behind all over the western world. You are truly and utterly brilliant and we're so lucky to have your Champagne Socialist views here. Listen to some Idles, destroy Israel, and praise Corbyn. [ quote author=" Alchemy Art" source="/post/2027320/thread" timestamp="1608283803"]You meanย tovarisch. Is it just you trying to find something smart to say and completely crashing? Thought so. Bob the snowflake got triggered and is out of his safe space. Watch out! [/quote]
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Gerhard Richter ๐ฉ๐ช Abstract โข Contemporary Art โข New Relea, by Poster Bob on Dec 20, 2020 2:29:25 GMT 1, We don't know what they'll sell for. We do have price precedents, based on P1 and P2, but the edition sizes are different and the prints were allocated differently. Very, very few of those prints have come to auction given that there were 500 of each.
The idea that this series is worth less than P1 and P2, solely based on total volume, is incorrect. There are 1,200 P-19 prints and 1,000 P1 and P2 prints. The editions are relatively comparable. I'd say that P1 and P2 are better images than all P-19 prints. A number of P19 prints most likely ended up in the hands of flippers, so the market may initially be flooded.
The initial auction results, probably from Artnet, will be disappointing but they will improve with time and inclusion within first-tier houses. Gerhard Richter is quite old, these images are strong, and further editions are not guaranteed. Do not even think of selling until after the Spring season has established base prices.
It's sad that almost no one is discussing the benefit of Richter and Heni raising nearly ยฃ5 million for Tate.
We don't know what they'll sell for. We do have price precedents, based on P1 and P2, but the edition sizes are different and the prints were allocated differently. Very, very few of those prints have come to auction given that there were 500 of each.
The idea that this series is worth less than P1 and P2, solely based on total volume, is incorrect. There are 1,200 P-19 prints and 1,000 P1 and P2 prints. The editions are relatively comparable. I'd say that P1 and P2 are better images than all P-19 prints. A number of P19 prints most likely ended up in the hands of flippers, so the market may initially be flooded.
The initial auction results, probably from Artnet, will be disappointing but they will improve with time and inclusion within first-tier houses. Gerhard Richter is quite old, these images are strong, and further editions are not guaranteed. Do not even think of selling until after the Spring season has established base prices.
It's sad that almost no one is discussing the benefit of Richter and Heni raising nearly ยฃ5 million for Tate.
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Obey suspending UK orders , by Poster Bob on Dec 20, 2020 1:59:20 GMT 1, No, I used and meant comrade but let me congratulate you on your pathetic knowledge of Russian and your disgustingly myopic views on Brexit. You're right, it's definitely xenophobia and racism. It has nothing to do with an entire class, feeling left behind all over the western world. You are truly and utterly brilliant and we're so lucky to have your Champagne Socialist views here. Listen to some Idles, destroy Israel, and praise Corbyn. [ quote author="Alchemy Art" source="/post/2027320/thread" timestamp="1608283803"]You meanย tovarisch. Is it just you trying to find something smart to say and completely crashing? Thought so.[/quote]
No, I used and meant comrade but let me congratulate you on your pathetic knowledge of Russian and your disgustingly myopic views on Brexit. You're right, it's definitely xenophobia and racism. It has nothing to do with an entire class, feeling left behind all over the western world. You are truly and utterly brilliant and we're so lucky to have your Champagne Socialist views here. Listen to some Idles, destroy Israel, and praise Corbyn. [ quote author=" Alchemy Art" source="/post/2027320/thread" timestamp="1608283803"] You meanย tovarisch. Is it just you trying to find something smart to say and completely crashing? Thought so.[/quote]
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Gerhard Richter ๐ฉ๐ช Abstract โข Contemporary Art โข New Relea, by Poster Bob on Dec 19, 2020 11:01:49 GMT 1, I haven't heard of a single sale under ยฃ9k. If you have one hold on to it.
I haven't heard of a single sale under ยฃ9k. If you have one hold on to it.
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Damien Hirst Keukenhof H 4-8 2020 for Sale, by Poster Bob on Dec 18, 2020 14:45:20 GMT 1, A friend of mine has all of the P series prints except for the exclusive ones. He has never resold anything sold to him by HENI. He was not allocated a print from H6, nor H7 nor H8 but got a P19. It's hard to say how it works.
Thanks good to know, Iโm happy for those that won. Hopefully Iโll win next year!
A friend of mine has all of the P series prints except for the exclusive ones. He has never resold anything sold to him by HENI. He was not allocated a print from H6, nor H7 nor H8 but got a P19. It's hard to say how it works. Thanks good to know, Iโm happy for those that won. Hopefully Iโll win next year!
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